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This is a continuation of the topic started here: https://aseannow.com/topic/1257405-electric-vehicles-in-thailand/

Electric Vehicles in Thailand - latest discussion

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Yesterday, the Denza Z9GT was officially launched in Thailand at THB 2.899 million, with DC fast charging at up to 1,500 kW.

What I find particularly interesting is that the launch package includes one year of free BYD FLASH charging, and the one-year period only starts from the date of your first charging session.

So BYD/Rever will clearly have to install at least some of these 1,500 kW FLASH chargers in Thailand. The interesting question is what happens next. If they start building the infrastructure now, in 2–3 years we could potentially have a decent number of FLASH stations around Thailand.

And by then, Blade Battery 2.0 and ultra-fast charging technology should have expanded to a much wider range of BYD and Denza models, not just an expensive halo car like the Z9GT.

This could actually become quite interesting for the Thai EV market.

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As far as I know there are not any operational 1.5MW DC Flash Chargers in Thailand yet. And I expect once BYD/Rever do get some operational in Thailand they will be few and far-in-between......probably at a couple BYD dealerships and a few malls in the largest cities. The flash charging technology is definitely nice, but my guess such DC chargers will not be "widespread" in-Thailand for many years to come...probably around a decade. It will not be fast growth like in China.

IMO the good ol' 150-180KW DC chargers will be the most common DC chargers in Thailand for years to come due to cost and local electrical infrastructure.

https://www.denzathailand.com/th/news-and-promotions/denza-z9gt-sep-2026-campaign

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There is already news that BYD/Rever plans to install Flash Chargers at DENZA dealerships across Thailand in 2027.

Sure, the DENZA network is still quite small, so initially there won’t be many locations, but it’s a start. And with charging speeds like this, you don’t necessarily need a huge number of chargers. A 1.5 MW charger can serve many more compatible cars per day simply because each charging session can be extremely short.

I also don’t really agree that it will take around a decade before we see significant expansion. We’ve already seen how much faster EV and charging technology is progressing than most people expected just a few years ago.

Of course, 150–180 kW chargers will remain very common for a long time, but I think the high-power network could develop much faster than you’re expecting, especially once this technology starts appearing in cheaper and higher-volume BYD models.

And looking at China right now, ultra-fast charging technology is already starting to move down into relatively affordable cars.

IMO, within the next 2–3 years, even fairly inexpensive EVs in Thailand could commonly be using 800V architectures and much faster DC charging. Maybe only the very cheapest entry-level EVs will continue using slower charging systems.

Technology and costs are moving downmarket very quickly in China, and I expect Thailand to follow with some delay.

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I have been monitoring the Z9 GT.

I told them today I am ready to order one providing they give me 12 months price protection.

This means if they drop the price in the next 12 months, they have to refund me the difference.

I have a friend who was ready to order one today as well, but they couldn’t tell him whether the interior colour on the champagne paintwork was maroon or cream.

As is usual in Thai showrooms, product knowledge is nonexistent.

52 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

As is usual in Thai showrooms, product knowledge is nonexistent.

Well, exciting times then JB.

Personally, I can't see how it's in their (or any vendors interests) to add special conditions to their contracts for single individuals. But good luck nonetheless.

To the quote above: Thais often agree to whatever it is you want, then give you what they give anyone else anyway.

6 hours ago, Pib said:

As far as I know there are not any operational 1.5MW DC Flash Chargers in Thailand yet. And I expect once BYD/Rever do get some operational in Thailand they will be few and far-in-between......probably at a couple BYD dealerships and a few malls in the largest cities. The flash charging technology is definitely nice, but my guess such DC chargers will not be "widespread" in-Thailand for many years to come...probably around a decade. It will not be fast growth like in China.

They are said to be at around number 10K of a planned 20K rollout in China.

It's clearly the case in China that they have staked a good part of their product differentiation on super fast charging and their sales numbers have improved as a result.

I *think* I read that in China a fast charger costs around 1/2 a million dollars.

Anyway, charging was one of the factors that swayed so many buying decisions towards Tesla and if BYD are adopting the same strategy, we may see more super fast charges in Thailand than any of us predicted.

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

I have been monitoring the Z9 GT.

I told them today I am ready to order one providing they give me 12 months price protection.

This means if they drop the price in the next 12 months, they have to refund me the difference.

If I remember right a couple years ago you also asked MG for a 12 month price guarantee on a MG Cyberster and they said no-can-do/pretty much ignored the request with a smile....I expect Denza/BYD has the same approach.

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A little video graphic showing the rise of EV’s globally, looks like China took it serious late 2013/early 2014 and never looked back.

2 hours ago, Pib said:

If I remember right a couple years ago you also asked MG for a 12 month price guarantee on a MG Cyberster and they said no-can-do/pretty much ignored the request with a smile....I expect Denza/BYD has the same approach.

I fully expect you to be right.

3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I have been monitoring the Z9 GT.

I told them today I am ready to order one providing they give me 12 months price protection.

This means if they drop the price in the next 12 months, they have to refund me the difference.

I have a friend who was ready to order one today as well, but they couldn’t tell him whether the interior colour on the champagne paintwork was maroon or cream.

As is usual in Thai showrooms, product knowledge is nonexistent.

As it is a CBU from China it price will increase due to planned extra import duty on CBU

The Price Schedule

  • Early Bird Promotion (Until September 30, 2026): The initial launch price for the Z9GT Performance AWD is 2,899,900 Baht .

  • Late 2026 Shift (October 1 – December 31, 2026): The price will experience a standard bump of 100,000 Baht, moving to 2,999,900 Baht .

  • The 2027 CBU Price Hike (January 1, 2027 onwards): The official projected retail price will skyrocket by a massive 1,000,000 Baht, landing at 3,999,900 Baht

  • https://www.headlightmag.com/official-price-denza-z9gt/

9 hours ago, vinny41 said:

As it is a CBU from China it price will increase due to planned extra import duty on CBU

The Price Schedule

  • Early Bird Promotion (Until September 30, 2026): The initial launch price for the Z9GT Performance AWD is 2,899,900 Baht .

  • Late 2026 Shift (October 1 – December 31, 2026): The price will experience a standard bump of 100,000 Baht, moving to 2,999,900 Baht .

  • The 2027 CBU Price Hike (January 1, 2027 onwards): The official projected retail price will skyrocket by a massive 1,000,000 Baht, landing at 3,999,900 Baht

  • https://www.headlightmag.com/official-price-denza-z9gt/

They won’t be selling many at 4M THB, I think it’s already overpriced.

Loved the Denza z9 gt, by far best looking car, but ended up with Tesla yl, the software is my main concern and i have the most confidence in Tesla, lets see lol

2 minutes ago, howerde said:

Loved the Denza z9 gt, by far best looking car, but ended up with Tesla yl, the software is my main concern and i have the most confidence in Tesla, lets see lol

@howerde We haven't heard much feedback from Tesla owners on this discussion so do please share how you get on with it.

I started with a MG PHEV and now have 2 BYDs: a Seal AWD Performance - similar to a model 3 performance and BYD M6 which is a mini MPV

1 minute ago, Bandersnatch said:

@howerde We haven't heard much feedback from Tesla owners on this discussion so do please share how you get on with it.

I started with a MG PHEV and now have 2 BYDs: a Seal AWD Performance - similar to a model 3 performance and BYD M6 which is a mini MPV

Sure, picking it up tomorrow lets see

21 hours ago, marino28 said:

There is already news that BYD/Rever plans to install Flash Chargers at DENZA dealerships across Thailand in 2027.

Sure, the DENZA network is still quite small, so initially there won’t be many locations, but it’s a start. And with charging speeds like this, you don’t necessarily need a huge number of chargers. A 1.5 MW charger can serve many more compatible cars per day simply because each charging session can be extremely short.

I also don’t really agree that it will take around a decade before we see significant expansion. We’ve already seen how much faster EV and charging technology is progressing than most people expected just a few years ago.

Of course, 150–180 kW chargers will remain very common for a long time, but I think the high-power network could develop much faster than you’re expecting, especially once this technology starts appearing in cheaper and higher-volume BYD models.

Honestly, I don't expect to see any 1.5 MW charging stations here in Thailand anytime soon—or at all this decade. When it finally happens, it'll probably just be in a few flagship locations like CentralWorld.

These setups are ridiculously expensive and require a massive 1.5 MWh on-site battery storage system because they can't rely fully on our local grid. Plus, the cable engineering is crazy complex, needing liquid cooling all the way down to the gun.

In China, it makes perfect sense. They already have plenty of 1,000V cars on the road, and you can buy them quite cheaply over there. Here in Thailand, we only have a handful of 250+ kW chargers concentrated around Bangkok and Big cities, along with a few 350 kW units in BKK. On top of that, I’m quite sure 99% of the EVs currently on our roads are still running on 400V-550V architectures anyway.

Let the discounts commence :

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Its that time of year again.

1 minute ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Let the discounts commence :

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Its that time of year again.

wow, I am seeing that too!

Thats crazy cheap to be honest, they are decent cars.

I guess they really want to sell many for the numbers so they can import more or block others, I think the later laugh

4 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

wow, I am seeing that too!

Thats crazy cheap to be honest, they are decent cars.

I guess they really want to sell many for the numbers so they can import more or block others, I think the later laugh

BYD, MG and other makers that signed production & sales agreement to qualify for incentives/subsidies/tax cuts need to make their quotas, or they're going to get hit with huge tax bills.

I thought last end of the year's auto show, 2025, was the best time to buy in. Seems like discounts & price war is still going strong. Won't last for ever people, and they're already offering 'lifetime warranties' on some makes & models.

No new mind blowing advancement that will have an effect on buying now vs next couple years. Fast charging doesn't mean much without fast charging network. Don't expect any major improvements on LFP tech, or solid state being around the corner, at resonable price.

You're not getting any younger ... time for upgrade from that ICEV ???

Ours, (2022), overpriced now due to price war, but still one of our best investments ... and driving is fun again. Haven't enjoy punching it, since having my Firebird, back in the 80s. And our ZS out performs that, instant hp/torque, though both do 0-100 kph in same 8+ seconds.

14 hours ago, vinny41 said:

As it is a CBU from China it price will increase due to planned extra import duty on CBU

The Price Schedule

  • Early Bird Promotion (Until September 30, 2026): The initial launch price for the Z9GT Performance AWD is 2,899,900 Baht .

  • Late 2026 Shift (October 1 – December 31, 2026): The price will experience a standard bump of 100,000 Baht, moving to 2,999,900 Baht .

  • The 2027 CBU Price Hike (January 1, 2027 onwards): The official projected retail price will skyrocket by a massive 1,000,000 Baht, landing at 3,999,900 Baht

  • https://www.headlightmag.com/official-price-denza-z9gt/

While the govt is indeed considering an excise tax increase for imported CBU vehicles it's not finalized yet and "no phase-in dates have been blessed by the govt." I expect the phase-in dates will be staggered over several years at least; otherwise, it would severely damage vehicle sales (which means less tax revenue also) and probably cause some vehicle manufacturers to downsize vehicle manufacturing in Thailand (which means job losses). The govt will be walking a tight rope on finding the right balance between domestic production and imports.

https://afma.org.au/thailand-to-impose-highest-tax-rate-on-imported-vehicles/

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https://www.motorist.co.th/en/article/6337/planning-to-buy-a-new-car-soon-let-s-break-down-the-upcoming-tax-changes-so-you-know-exactly-how-it-might-affect-the-price-tag-of-your-next-dream-ride

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19 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I have been monitoring the Z9 GT.

I told them today I am ready to order one providing they give me 12 months price protection.

This means if they drop the price in the next 12 months, they have to refund me the difference.

I have a friend who was ready to order one today as well, but they couldn’t tell him whether the interior colour on the champagne paintwork was maroon or cream.

As is usual in Thai showrooms, product knowledge is nonexistent.

With all respect, who do you think you are to receive such special contract conditions?

You're just one of 100s or 1,000s ordinary buyers. Why do you expect special treatment?

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Tier 3 is the highest rate, for businesses importing CBU (Completely Built Unit) vehicles for commercial sale without plans to invest in production or develop the supply chain in Thailand. The government is preparing to push for the implementation of Tier 3 first in order to slow the influx of CBU vehicles.

It can be said that the new rules are shifting the competition from "who can import cars cheaper" to "who can generate more economic benefit for Thailand."

Another significant driving force comes from the private sector, with 10 associations related to the automotive and parts industry, such as the Thai Electric Vehicle Association (EVAT) and the Thai Auto Parts Manufacturers Association (TAPMA), proposing that the government expedite the adjustment of the excise tax on imported CBU EVs to at least 32% to create a price difference compared to domestically produced vehicles. They also proposed setting an import quota for CBU vehicles at no more than 10% of the actual production in Thailand and raising the local content requirement to 80%.

The Federation of Thai Industries proposed increasing the CBU (Completely Built Unit) tariff to 32–50%, while the Thai Chamber of Commerce supported the principle of taxation based on actual domestic benefits. They also called for clear definitions of local content and import ceilings for CBUs, as well as protection for existing production bases and SMEs in the supply chain.

These proposals reflect that the industry doesn't simply want to "raise tariffs on imported cars," but rather that the government design rules that require car imports to be exchanged for investment, production, and the creation of domestic supply chains.

Car prices may go up, but that's the future of the industry.

Of course, the short-term impact is that consumers may have to pay more, especially for CBU (Completely Built Unit) vehicles that are not manufactured in Thailand. Meanwhile, automakers that have to restructure their procurement processes may face increased costs in the initial period.

On the other hand, if the measures actually lead to investment, they could create long-term benefits through job creation, supplier investment, skills development, and technology transfer, as well as help reduce the risk of buyers of certain car brands facing long-term problems with service centers and spare parts.

The key challenge, therefore, lies in finding a balance between "the price consumers pay" and "the economic value that Thailand receives."

That makes the 3 Tiers even more important, because the government is trying to shift the question from the original question of how to get Thais to buy more EVs to a new question: "How can we ensure that the growth of EVs creates the greatest possible production base and added value in Thailand?"

https://www.thansettakij.com/economy/trade-agriculture/668836

Thailand is looking to be the asian version of Detroit regarding Production and Export of EV

Bulk of EV sales in Thailand this year are from CBU imports not vehicles built in Thailand with majority Thai content

Taxing EVs 

Five days after the initial announcement on 10 September, Finance Minister Ekniti Nithithanprapas revealed that the upcoming excise tax could be 30 per cent. He added that the government is collaborating with the local auto industry to finalise the new rate by the end of the month. 

In Thailand, low-emission vehicles such as EVs and hybrids made up 55 per cent of the market for. To support local automakers during the nationwide EV transition, the Thai government seeks to lessen the competitive pressure in the market. 

“The transition of Thailand’s automotive sector must convert rapid consumer demand into long-term capital formation, localised technology, and quality employment,” said Board of Investment official Narit Therdsteerasukdi. 

https://afma.org.au/thailand-to-impose-highest-tax-rate-on-imported-vehicles/

The DENZA Z9GT Performance AWD is imported as a Completely Built Up (CBU) unit from China. It launches with the following pricing structure and year-end promotional offers:

I think Tier 3 will start from the begining of 2027 Tier 2 and Tier 1 will be much later

2 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

.... I guess they really want to sell many for the numbers so they can import more or block others, I think the later laugh

i do agree with you ..

it feels like BYD is manly focused on selling more cars and winning customers, while software quality is being let behind. compared with some competitors, BYD still seems a few years behind with the . i'm not sure this strategy will work in the long run ...

however, i'm very happy with my BYD overall, except for the software. after 18 months, i’ve only received my second OTA update, with just a few small, long-overdue changes. honestly, i'm not impressed wit the OTA's ... but i can live with it, because i still love driving my sealion 7 awd ... it is still fun ...

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15 minutes ago, CLW said:

With all respect, who do you think are receiving such special contract conditions?

You're just one of 100s or 1,000s ordinary buyers. Why do you expect special treatment?

he expect just fair treatment for at least the first year when buying a car in this price segment ...

but to be honest, fair treatment seems harder and harder to find these days, regardless of the object or subject involved ... 🙁

30 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Another significant driving force comes from the private sector, with 10 associations related to the automotive and parts industry, such as the Thai Electric Vehicle Association (EVAT) and the Thai Auto Parts Manufacturers Association (TAPMA), proposing that the government expedite the adjustment of the excise tax on imported CBU EVs to at least 32% to create a price difference compared to domestically produced vehicles. They also proposed setting an import quota for CBU vehicles at no more than 10% of the actual production in Thailand and raising the local content requirement to 80%.

The Federation of Thai Industries proposed increasing the CBU (Completely Built Unit) tariff to 32–50%, while the Thai Chamber of Commerce supported the principle of taxation based on actual domestic benefits. They also called for clear definitions of local content and import ceilings for CBUs, as well as protection for existing production bases and SMEs in the supply chain.

Thai industry/vehicle organizations, like the Federation of Thai Industries, are wishing for the stars. They know they will have to recommend and push for some "high" rates in order to get some lower rates. Kinda like some of these pawn shop shows where a person goes to a pawn shop to pawn or sell something...and plays the game of saying the item is worth some high amount, but the pawn shop comes back with a much lower offer. When the bargaining dust settles the agreed to price is something in the middle...usually much closer to the pawn shop initial offer.

21 minutes ago, Pib said:

Thai industry/vehicle organizations, like the Federation of Thai Industries, are wishing for the stars. They know they will have to recommend and push for some "high" rates in order to get some lower rates. Kinda like some of these pawn shop shows where a person goes to a pawn shop to pawn or sell something...and plays the game of saying the item is worth some high amount, but the pawn shop comes back with a much lower offer. When the bargaining dust settles the agreed to price is something in the middle...usually much closer to the pawn shop initial offer.

Looking at the Top 30 list of 100% registered electric vehicles in July 2026.

The Brands that come under Tier 3 and are Completely Built Unit imports are Geely,Tesla and Wulling I haven't seen any annoucement where they have stated they will move away from the current CBU model

https://autolifethailand.tv/ev-bev-register-thailand-july-2026/

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