wpcoe Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I have mixed feelings about the passenger manifest not being kept confidential until notification of next of kin of both deceased and survivors. I highly doubt a US airline would make such information publicly available so early after an incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Please temporarily contact the following numbers in addition to 1126for any inqueires regarding the accident of OG/OX269 at Phuket. 085-155-4622 085-911-5092 085-918-3422 Whose numbers are these, please? -- Maestro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpcoe Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 A quick look at the passeger manifesto vs. survivor list shows most (all?) were sitting in the back. How are you able to determine their seat numbers? Do you have access to the actual manifest beyond what was made public by Bangkok Post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Please temporarily contact the following numbers in addition to 1126for any inqueires regarding the accident of OG/OX269 at Phuket. 085-155-4622 085-911-5092 085-918-3422 Whose numbers are these, please? -- Maestro Those are Orient Thai Airlines (One-Two-Go) phone numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baabaabobo Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 A quick look at the passeger manifesto vs. survivor list shows most (all?) were sitting in the back. It would appear so... From the Nation: Survivor and eyewitnesses tell of the Phuket Airport crash A One-Two-Go crash survivor said the MD82 aircraft descended at an unusually high speed before it crashlanded at Phuket Airport. Marine Keisel, from Paris, was aboard a plane behind the one that crashed and saw the accident happen. "When the plane landed it caught fire," she told AFP at Phuket airport. "We could see the fire coming out of it. It was chaos inside my plane." Meanwhile David McGivney, 23, from Ireland, was on vacation and waiting to return to Bangkok. When the accident happened he was on another plane, which waited on the tarmac for an hour. "Nothing was said to us until we saw it on the news," he said. Asked if he was willing to fly, McGivney said: "Not really, maybe we'll get the bus tonight." Nong Khaonual, a frequent flyer, said he managed to drag his wife Ladda, who was unconscious, to an emergency door at the back and opened it with the help of other survivors. The 10 survivors then jumped into a ditch. He said the plane bounced violently before it skidded off the runway and crash into an earth berm. The plane caught fire immediately after it stopped. Nong said some of the survivors who helped open the door suffered some burns. Most were hurt from the jump into the ditch. Nong tore an earlobe and damaged his shoulder. He said there was no announcement from the crew that landing could be a problem. One of Nong's sonsinlaw said Nong, his wife and all 10 survivors were seated at the back of the plane, where the impact of the crash was less severe. Nong's son Thanawat Fongsrisin said his mother injured her head in the jump from the plane. The couple were taken to Siriroj Hospital. He said his parents went to Phuket to visit his pregnant wife, who is due to deliver next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 A quick look at the passeger manifesto vs. survivor list shows most (all?) were sitting in the back. How are you able to determine their seat numbers? Do you have access to the actual manifest beyond what was made public by Bangkok Post? In the thread is a post taken from a Scandinavian website which has published scans of the manifest. LinkRegards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siam-i-am Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 From the NY Times commenting on the crash:"Orient Thai airlines, the international arm of One-Two-GO, was warned about its safety procedures last year. South Korea’s Ministry of Construction and Transportation issued a warning in March 2006 to Orient Thai and two other budget carriers for “frequent delays and substandard safety measures,” according to the Korea Times newspaper. The ministry said that Orient Thai, which operated flights from Inchon, South Korea to Bangkok and Phuket, did not update its safety and operational regulation manuals and that fire extinguishers and oxygen tanks were not in working condition." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/world/as...amp;oref=slogin It will be many months before we know the real reason behined tonights tragedy. But a few years ago my partners brother, who works for Thai air told her under no circumstances was she to fly budget in Thailand, he refused to elaborate. It was nothing to do with competition, he said he feared for her safety. Its alright being wise after the event but, to be cheaper you have to cut corners. Was tonight a corner to far? Words cannot express how I feel or bring any comfort to the bereaved, what a sad world we live in. R.I.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 PHUKET PLANE CRASH TOLL MOUNTS BANGKOK: -- A One-Two-Go Airlines passenger jet with 130 people aboard crashed and burned while landing at Phuket Airport in foul weather Sunday afternoon. Phuket deputy governor Vorapot Rajsima said 88 people were confirmed dead. At least 41 survivors, including 11 Thais, six Irish nationals, six Britons, three Australians, three Iranians, two Swedes, one German and a Dutch national were admitted to various Phuket hospitals. Both pilots are said to be among the survivors. (see updated passenger manifest in our Breaking News section) "Nearly half the passengers were foreign tourists," said one survivor, Nong Khaonuan. In a TV interview, he said. "I've flown on many airplanes before and I can say there was something strange about our landing. We seemed to drop down too fast." There was hope that many survived after TiTV showed two foreigners being carried away to local hospital. But the fire that ripped through the crashed aircraft apparently claimed dozens of lives. The MD82 plane of the budget airline skidded off the runway after landing on a flight from Don Muang airport in Bangkok, and crashed into trees, bursting into fire. "The fire was throughout the airplane," said Phuket Deputy Governor Worraphot Ratsrimaa. "We expect that at least 90 per cent of the passengers died." "The plane was landing and slid off the runway. We are rescuing people and carrying injured people to hospitals," said Pol Lt Sokchai Limcharoen, a police officer in the area in an early report. Chaisak Angsuwan, director general of the Air Transport Authority of Thailand said the aircraft broke in two as it attempted to land at Phuket airport in bad weather. Chaisak said that there was heavy rain when flight OG269 of parent Orient Thai Airways traveling from Bangkok's Don Muang airport to Phuket attempted to make a landing. Planes in both Orient Thai and One-Two-Go livery use the OG flight identifier. "The visibility was poor as the pilot attempted to land. He decided to make a go-around but the plane lost balance and crashed,". he said. "The plane then fell onto the runway and broke into two. It is expected that there will be deaths. "The airplane asked to land but due to the weather in Phuket -strong wind and heavy rain -maybe the pilot did not see the runway clearly," said Chaisak. Witnesses said the airline was using its usual MD-82 twin-engine passenger jet aircraft, a model of the McDonnell-Douglas DC9. One-Two-Go owned seven such planes, which it used for frequent flights around Thailand, including six each day from Bangkok to Phuket and return. Airport officials and rescue workers are still working to help the victims from the plane which caught fire after it crashlanded and skidded off the runway. Authorities said there were 123 passengers and five crew members on board when the plane crashed at about 3:35pm Sunday afternoon. Weather in Phuket has been bad for several days, with thunderstorms and high wind gusts at times. Important telephone numbers: One-Two-Go Hotline 1126 Bangkok Phuket Hospital 076-254421-9 Siriroj Hospital 076-249400 Vajira Phuket Hospital 076-361234 Mission Phuket Hospital 076-237220-9 Thalang Hospital 076-311033 British Embassy's emergency centre 02-3058333 -- Bangkok Post 2007-09-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) Can you tell me if there is an easy way to get the flight manifest? My good friend and his wife (my wife's cousin) were flying to Phuket from Bkk today. I am doubtful the airline will release that information to you sorry. Contact the emergency line or the airline direct. PASSENGER MANIFEST 123 passengers on board Flight OG 269, operated by airline One-Two-Go * denotes those who have been confirmed survived or hospitalised. 1.Mr Werner Adelhardt 2.Ms Lily Alon 3.Mr Alain Bembaron 4.Mrs Brigitte Bino 5.Mr Itzhak Biton 6.Mr Alexius Boerkamp* 7.Mr Jeanmarie Bonachera 8.Mrs Josiane Bonachera 9.Mr Chawapon Boonmeechai 10.Mrs Wanaporn Boonsung 11.Mr Robert Borland* 12.Mr Philippe Bregeard 13.Mr William Burke* 14.Mr Sinchai Chaiarun 15.Mr Jakkapon Chairitinanon 16.Mr Parinyawith Choosang* 17.Mr Alexander Collins 18.Mr Chirstopher Cooley* 19.Mr Jesada Dechakul 20.Mr Colin Denny 21.Mrs Sawitree Denny* 22.Ms Hofit Eliya 23.Mr Christoph Falchetti* 24.Mr Michael Falcone 25.Mrs Mahsa Fatoorehchi* 26.Ms Arisa Fayad 27.Ms Tal Feldman 28.Ms Isabella Freylikhman* 29.Mr Vladimir Freylikhman* 30.Ms Anne Furlong* 31.Mrs Laetitia Gambu 32.Ms Hila Gershoni 33.Mr Saeid Ghayoumi 34.Ms Sansa Ghayoumi 35.Mr Scott Harrow* 36.Ms Madia Hashemi* 37.Mr Parviz Hashemi* 38.Mr Peter Hill* 39.Mrs Susan Howell 40.Mrs Sara Izadine 41.Chawit Jitjamnong* 42.Mr Chowalert Jitjamnong* 43.Mrs Siriphut Jitjamnong 44.Mr Alireza Jodatfar 45.Mr Jahangir Jodatfar 46.Mr Mohammadreza Jodatfar 47.Ms Bethan Jones 48.Mr Simon Jonsson 49.Ms Khatha Kanchanasutha 50.Mrs Ladda Khawnoun* 51.Mr Nong Khawnoun* 52.Mr Nasser Bonab 53.Ms Mehrana Movahed* 54.Mr Abbas Movahed* 55.Ms Mullika Koysin 56.Mr Chakart Kulwanich 57.Ms Pratin Lainjumroon* 58.Mr Thibaud Lamere 59.Mr Sudprasong Laosiriwut 60.Mr Likhit Liengphansakul* 61.Ms Fermina Macaire 62.Mr Henri Macaire 63.Mr Chainarong Maharae* 64.Mr Porrawit Mahasup* 65.Mr Teerayuth Manoorakchinakorn 66.Mr Christopher Markensven* 67.Mr Jacques Marnef 68.Ms Kaninnat Martmuang 69.Ms Wantana Meesang 70.Ms Amnuj Meesil 71.Ms Maryam Taheri* 72.Ms Mojgan Mohebbianjedani 73.Ms Fereshteh Mokhlesukhchi 74.Mr Brain Mullery 75.Mr Di Naima 76.Ms Rotem Naouri 77.Mr Erik Nihler 78.Mr John O'Donnell* 79.Mrs Homeira Omdeekhodaitehrani 80.Mrs Pranee Panyakong 81.Mr Paiboon Phaphan* 82.Mr Sanya Phromarak 83.Mr Rasqul Pourmehr 84.Mr Mahmoud Pourmehr 85.Mr Suchip Prantoon 86.Ms Puengboon Ratnadilok na Phuket 87.Mr Raj Rattanaphon 88.Ms Claudia Rothmann* 89.Mr Clemens Rothmann* 90.Mr Pichai Rueathong 91.Mr Mehoi Safaebtabrizi 92.Ms Cho Safaebtabrizi 93.Mr Hossein Safaebtabrizi 94.Mr Thanavut Saikay 95.Ms Fahimeh Salek 96.Ms Linnea Sandberg 97.Ms Patcharin Sattayapongsaporn 98.Mr Stephen Saunby 99.Ms Busakon Saunjarun 100.Ms Sabine Schumacher 101.Ms Supalak Shueaw 102.Mrs Benchawan Sichaiin 103.Mr Witchupol Singhapol* 104.Mrs Helen Slater 105.Mr Neil Slater 106.Mr Marcel Squinobal* 107.Mr Chatree Suksawas* 108.Mr Somphot Sungkhaphong 109.Ms Jiranuch Suwannarat 110.Mr Farshas Tazhibi 111.Mrs Yajai Thanyakarn 112.Ms Rachel Toland 113.Mr Aaron Toland 114.Mr Apichai Trompronpitakkul 115.Mrs Siriluk Tuptanee 116.Mr Sirikorn Unsakul 117.Mrs Somluk Unsakul 118.Mr Meysam Valaie 119.Mr Benjamin Voigtmann* 120.Mr Francis Weston 121.Mrs Mary Weston 122.Ms Marie Whittington* 123.Mr Stefan Woronoff Important telephone numbers: One-Two-Go Hotline 1126 Bangkok Phuket Hospital 076-254421-9 Siriroj Hospital 076-249400 Vajira Phuket Hospital 076-361234 Mission Phuket Hospital 076-237220-9 Thalang Hospital 076-311033 British Embassy's emergency centre 02-3058333 Edited September 16, 2007 by geriatrickid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBWG Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) It would appear that people are now starting to wash their hands of responsibility. The statement made by One2Go on television tonight, went down the lines of, we are not responsible. When it comes to Thailand it appears that no matter which way you look at it. Thai's and Falang get treated differently. Ill-fated One-Two-Go aircraft not covered by local insurance The One-Two-Go McDonnell Douglas MD 82 that crashed in Phuket on Sunday was not covered by local insurance, said Chantra Purnariksha, the head of the Office of the Insurance Commission. Chantra said it is not yet known whether the aircraft, which was leased by OneTwoGo from a foreign company, is covered by foreign insurance or not, something that the insurance commission still needs to find out. However, airline companies normally buy insurance to cover both the aircraft in operation and passengers. Chantra said foreign passengers usually have their own life and accident insurance, but Thai passengers, who are now being treated at local hospitals, will be able to get compensation from OneTwoGo, which will have to pay hospital bills immediately. The airline can claim those costs from its foreign insurers later. Chantra said that the General Insurance Association had confirmed that OneTwoGo did not have local insurance for the MD 82 that crashed. He added that he will try to find out whether the foreign owner of the MD 82, which had leased it to OneTwoGo, had insurance for the aircraft. Relatives of the deceased from the accident seeking to claim damages from the provincial insurance office can call 1122 for further information. Payment and compensation will only be delivered after DNA verification checks have been conducted. By Achara Pongvuthitham It is extremely unlikely that the aircraft is uninsured the leasing company would not let the aircraft operate without adequate coverage. I suspect that the aircraft was leased on an ACMI basis (Aircraft,Crew,Maintenance,Insurance) as a package. However, if this is not the case then the aircraft would have to be insured in the first instance by law by a Thai company. Because of the large sums involved, many hundreds of millions, they would only retain perhaps 1 percent of the risk and then re-insure it into the international market. The cover would be rated in the international market (probably the London Insurance market) and they would appoint adjusters and take over claims control. Any passenger awards would be governed by whatever protocol the Thais are signed up to (whatever, it will not be very generous) about US$ 20,000 per passenger. If however they can prove negligence then the awards would be determined by a court of law and could run into millions depending on individual circumstances. The above would apply whoever arranges the coverage be it the leasing company or the operator. TBWG Edited September 16, 2007 by TBWG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 More telefonnumbers Please temporarily contact the following numbers (in addition to 1126) for any inqueires regarding the accident of OG/OX269 at Phuket 085-155-4622 085-911-5092 085-918-3422 02-535-7662 02-504-3227 02-504-3641 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitrapaap Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I have mixed feelings about the passenger manifest not being kept confidential until notification of next of kin of both deceased and survivors. I highly doubt a US airline would make such information publicly available so early after an incident. Sorry, but who cares what an US airline would do or not do. The people want to know who was on the plane and the passenger manifest is by far the most credible document in all the mass of news and reports received so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 It would appear that people are now starting to wash their hands of responsibility. The statement made by One2Go on television tonight, went down the lines of, we are not responsible. When it comes to Thailand it appears that no matter which way you look at it. Thai's and Falang get treated differently. Ill-fated One-Two-Go aircraft not covered by local insurance The One-Two-Go McDonnell Douglas MD 82 that crashed in Phuket on Sunday was not covered by local insurance, said Chantra Purnariksha, the head of the Office of the Insurance Commission........ Chantra said that the General Insurance Association had confirmed that OneTwoGo did not have local insurance for the MD 82 that crashed. He added that he will try to find out whether the foreign owner of the MD 82, which had leased it to OneTwoGo, had insurance for the aircraft. What sort of insurance commission would allow a leasee of a passenger aircraft to not have insurance coverage? The statement, upon the face of it, is simply unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I have mixed feelings about the passenger manifest not being kept confidential until notification of next of kin of both deceased and survivors. I highly doubt a US airline would make such information publicly available so early after an incident. Backpacking in Asia is not like having vacation in Florida, you can be anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baabaabobo Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Latest from The Phuket Gazette: 88 perish in One-Two-Go crash PHUKET: Of the 130 passengers and crew aboard One-Two-Go flight OG269 that crash landed at Phuket International Airport about 3:45 pm today, only 42 survived the crash and fire that followed it. Of these, 15 were Thai nationals. At a press conference at the Airports Of Thailand office about 9 pm, Phuket Airport Director Sq Ldr Pornchai Eua-aree said the crash was the result of a “mis-approach” landing, after which the pilot tried to regain enough speed to take off again – but failed. Most of the survivors were either thrown from the fuselage when the plane crashed into a berm alongside the taxiway or managed to escape before the intense fire that followed, he said. All 42 survivors were rushed to hospital. Thirty were sent to Bangkok Phuket Hospital, 10 to Phuket International Hospital and two to Vachira Phuket Hospital. Five escaped with minor injuries that did not require treatment. Phuket International Hospital has released the names of three foreign survivors: Swedes Christopher Marken and Eric Nihlen; Dutchwoman Sarah Marie Whittington. Bangkok Phuket Hospital has reported three survivors as requiring intensive care treatment, while Phuket International Hospital has two survivors in its ICU ward. Two of the seven crew members aboard the the McDonnell Douglas MD82 aircraft survived. They were identified as cabin crew members Orasin Saengboonruang and Apichit Batha. Both the pilot and co-pilot were killed. The bodies that rescue workers have recovered are being kept in a makeshift morgue in an airport hanger. Udom Thantprasongchai, Managing Director of Orient Thai, which operates the low-cost One-Two-Go service, is expected to arrive in Phuket soon from Krabi. He will be accompanied by Ministry of Interior Permanent Secretary and former Phuket Governor Pongpayome Vasaputi and Deputy Transport Minister Sansern Nongchooam. Passengers seeking information from the airline can contact the One-Two-Go hotline at 1126 or dial 076-351144 or 076-351166. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBWG Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 It would appear that people are now starting to wash their hands of responsibility. The statement made by One2Go on television tonight, went down the lines of, we are not responsible. When it comes to Thailand it appears that no matter which way you look at it. Thai's and Falang get treated differently. Ill-fated One-Two-Go aircraft not covered by local insurance The One-Two-Go McDonnell Douglas MD 82 that crashed in Phuket on Sunday was not covered by local insurance, said Chantra Purnariksha, the head of the Office of the Insurance Commission........ Chantra said that the General Insurance Association had confirmed that OneTwoGo did not have local insurance for the MD 82 that crashed. He added that he will try to find out whether the foreign owner of the MD 82, which had leased it to OneTwoGo, had insurance for the aircraft. What sort of insurance commission would allow a leasee of a passenger aircraft to not have insurance coverage? The statement, upon the face of it, is simply unbelievable. Hi The aircraft is insured, before an operator can use an airport they have to provide proof of insurance coverage, which operating into the likes of Don Muang must be a minimum of at least $500 million I would of thought. National insurance commissions also insist that international insurers can only underwrite their domestic business as a reinsurance so as to maintain some sort of control over their own national business, so for The Head of The Insurance Commission to say that they have no local coverage must mean the aircraft leasing company is providing the cover. Having said that they have insurance cover that only applies providing they have not breached any policy warranties and paid their premiums. TBWG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llothar Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Anybody notice on that passenger manifest that two of the survivors with the surname of Rothmann should be related. What a magnificent piece of luck for that family at least, with both surviving. Not really too much luck. Almost everything on such an accident belongs where you sit. And if they both sit next ot each other (very likely for a young couple) then the only luck involved have to do with there distance from the next emergency exit. If i can manage it i always try to get a seat near the wings, as this is the most stable part of an airplane and it's easier to leave the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Anybody notice on that passenger manifest that two of the survivors with the surname of Rothmann should be related. What a magnificent piece of luck for that family at least, with both surviving. Not really too much luck. Almost everything on such an accident belongs where you sit. And if they both sit next ot each other (very likely for a young couple) then the only luck involved have to do with there distance from the next emergency exit. But conversely and extremely sad to see groups of three names the same, none survived, almost certainly a family wiped out, too sad for words. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingjok Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 VTSP 161000Z 27009KT 3000 RA SCT015 BKN110 BKN300 25/24 Q1006 A2973Thats the ACTUAL weather conditions at the times around the accident. Basic plain language decode: 1000 GMT wind direction 270 deg 9 knots 3000 metres visibility in RAIN Lowest cloud 1500 ft temperature 25degrees Weather report above from Dekka. Here's the airport and the plate. (Nicked from pprune) Pros please advise why you think this a/c was landing 09? Is it correct that runway 27 has ILS, but 09 does not? Is this relevant? Am I missing something here? Correct me if my reasoning is Boll***s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I know very little about big jets (or indeed any plankwings), but there are some pro jet jockeys on TV: What is the deal if you’re on approach and the gusts / crosswinds etc have increased to beyond the capacity of the a/c? What are you expected to do? Divert to alternate? Turn back? Chance it? What about fuel state? What about the met report before you departed – are they reliable in this part of the world 3. We never chance it. Unfortunately, 1-2-Go is on record as "chancing it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingjok Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Unfortunately, 1-2-Go is on record as "chancing it". Christ! That's a serious thing to say. What's the source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fongvin Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I did find the publication of the passenger manifest on this, a public website & forum, quite disturbing. This information should be handled by the correct authorities and not for public consumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I'm not 100% comfortable on the manifest issue, but a website in Europe published it as well. Given that it is likely that TV, given its search ranking may well be a port of call for individuals looking for information, it's probably best to place it into the public domain. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpcoe Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I did find the publication of the passenger manifest on this, a public website & forum, quite disturbing. This information should be handled by the correct authorities and not for public consumption. Thank you for stating that. I was beginning to believe I was the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshawk Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 here's an interesting clip.. very fierce approach conditions as an airliner attempts to put down, excellent pilot skills are utilized as he aborts for a go around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchpilot Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I have a friend who are pilot for that Cie and he fly on the same type of aircraft, i can't join it !!! do you know the name of the F/O or if he is french ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llothar Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I did find the publication of the passenger manifest on this, a public website & forum, quite disturbing. This information should be handled by the correct authorities and not for public consumption. The authorities in Phuket got much critics for not publishing victim lists after the tsunami as soon as possible, now it seems they went into the other extreme and i must say that i like this more then a disclosure of this information. As long as this information is correct i don't see to much problems. And as others already replied this is not crash in the States or in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Unfortunately, 1-2-Go is on record as "chancing it". Christ! That's a serious thing to say. What's the source? AIRCRAFT & REGN: L-1011 of Orient Thai PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS: Argument over immediate departure with residual hot brakes. CIRCUMSTANCES: Flight engineer baggage & FE offloaded by captain and next leg flown as two-man crew. DEATH & INJURY: Nil ------------------------------------ Thai charter aircraft almost hits Tokyo Tower Airline Industry Information, Oct 18, 2004 An Orient Thai charter aircraft came within 200 metres of striking the Tokyo Tower in Tokyo, Japan in September according the Japanese Transport Ministry. The aircraft was carrying no passengers at the time as it was flying to Tokyo to operate a flight to Phuket in Thailand. The Boeing 747-200 aircraft reportedly nearly hit the Tokyo Tower just after midnight on 19 September 2004 as it was coming in to land at Haneda airport. A spokesperson for Orient Thai Airlines said that the captain of the aircraft had failed to explain to his crew the content of a manual on landing at Haneda airport and has now been suspended, reports Reuters. -------------------------------------- The above are from Air Safety Week's newsletter. I've posted a lot in the past on other incidents and we've had at least one member quit working for them, allegedly over safety issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fongvin Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I'm not 100% comfortable on the manifest issue, but a website in Europe published it as well. Given that it is likely that TV, given its search ranking may well be a port of call for individuals looking for information, it's probably best to place it into the public domain.Regards I refer to post #130 where the postee provides a passenger manifest which I personally believe should not be posted in this way. And, their is no official, or media source attached to this information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I refer to post #130 where the postee provides a passenger manifest which I personally believe should not be posted in this way. And, their is no official, or media source attached to this information.The version on #130 is from The Bangkok Post, LINK, the scanned version of the full Manifest is sourced from a Scandinavian website previously identified in the thread. www.scandasia.comRegards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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