That 10 weeks ago, I was not a Father and as of yesterday, I am a Grandfather!!

The really strange thing is, I am not sure whom I want to see most, the Daughter who I really, really want to see, the boy who I really want to see or the father, in a small room on our own!

For those that read and/or remember the battles with immigration, a very sad end indeed.

Not quite a mystery of Life, but I have approx 6 weeks to contemplate.

Moss

I really don't see why you should be viewing this as being unfortunate...can you explain?

Chownah

Probably because he feels old as dirt, now that he's Gramps...

That's life mate. It's what happens while you're busy making other plans..

Moss,

not an easy thing, but the bright side is, she is very lucky to still have you and your wife she can count on to give her the support she will need in bringing up her son.

when you see the little boy, give him a hug from all of us here, with a very big one from me to both the Mom and the boy (by the way that reminds me...Jude will now have a friend and competitor? )

Moss Congratulations on becoming a granddad!

Judging by the tremendous love you've shown Jude, I reckon' you'll make a great wonderful grand-daddy!

I really don't see why you should be viewing this as being unfortunate

I don't really want to go into detail

...can you explain?

If I can put suitable words toward it, I might try, but thanks for the comment

Probably because he feels old as dirt, now that he's Gramps...

Nope, completely off track

That's life mate. It's what happens while you're busy making other plans..

Yes I guess that is true, but it was not my plans, she had a whole planned route, chosen by her, ahead of her, which will now be very difficult indeed.

Moss Congratulations on becoming a granddad!

Judging by the tremendous love you've shown Jude, I reckon' you'll make a great wonderful grand-daddy!

Thanks Kayo, I think you are still star-struck by your little niece

Thanks for all the comments

Moss

when you see the little boy, give him a hug from all of us here, with a very big one from me to both the Mom and the boy (by the way that reminds me...Jude will now have a friend and competitor? )

I will certainly give him a big hug and tell him all about you, only the bad things mind, I can't have anybody get in the way of Jude

Thanks for the PM, I much appreciate it.

Moss

Do you remember that song that was number 1 for yonks?

"Grandad, grandad, we love you..."

It was <deleted> really!

I can't have anybody get in the way of Jude

when does he become of legal dating age?? checking how many years I gotta wait....have to figure a way to stay young looking for that one

Hey Moss, didn't realise stuff was hard for you right now, call me for a chat...

On a similar theme, I've apparently just bought a motorbike for a 16 yo kid in Loei whom I've never met. It wasn't my idea.

"Grandad, grandad, we love you..."

Yeah, Cheers Then

Moss

....have to figure a way to stay young looking for that one

Somehow I get the feeling that wont be hard

Moss

didn't realise stuff was hard for you right now,

Well, not that hard, largely disappointed and other things....

On a similar theme, I've apparently just bought a motorbike for a 16 yo kid in Loei whom I've never met. It wasn't my idea.

Two things reduce ignorance: Education and Laughter:

Hence, nothing else to say, but....

Moss

^

:D

I haven't laughed like that for ages. Cheers, Moss!

^

:D

I haven't laughed like that for ages. Cheers, Moss!

It certainly is a good one!

Hope everything works out for you Moss.

I have no idea what this thread is about, have I missed something?

I have no idea what this thread is about, have I missed something?

C'mon Tuky is it really that difficult.

A few weeks ago I was a father for the first time and now of a couple of weeks ago, I am a Grandfather, if that is not unusual, then I am a Protestant

I am also fairly disappointed by it.

Moss

I have no idea what this thread is about, have I missed something?

C'mon Tuky is it really that difficult.

A few weeks ago I was a father for the first time and now of a couple of weeks ago, I am a Grandfather, if that is not unusual, then I am a Protestant

I am also fairly disappointed by it.

Moss

Tuky's a bit slow. He's probably a Protestant!

I have no idea what this thread is about, have I missed something?

C'mon Tuky is it really that difficult.

A few weeks ago I was a father for the first time and now of a couple of weeks ago, I am a Grandfather, if that is not unusual, then I am a Protestant

I am also fairly disappointed by it.

Moss

Tuky's a bit slow. He's probably a Protestant!

Tuky's OK, I would bet my bottom Punt, that he is no Protestant.

Well, at least I am beginning to smile again.

Moss

Whats wrong with being a prod?

For those that read and/or remember the battles with immigration, a very sad end indeed.

Moss i can't remember all the facts. How old was the step daughter when you brought her over and how old is she now?

We are bringing the step daughter over in march. She will be just about 15 by the time she gets here. Have you got any advice for me. BTW I've not any other kids, so it's gonna be new to me also.

Whats wrong with being a prod?

It's an old Irish joke patsy. If anyone did anything untoward, unsual, or silly (anything really) you'd say, 'must be a prod!' Harmless really.

Whats wrong with being a prod?

Just a very slight touch of blackguarding there Patsy, nothing serious meant in it at all.

Moss

Whats wrong with being a prod?

It's an old Irish joke patsy. If anyone did anything untoward, unsual, or silly (anything really) you'd say, 'must be a prod!' Harmless really.

Exactly!

Moss

How old was the step daughter when you brought her over and how old is she now?

She was 14 Jangles, when she came over..

We are bringing the step daughter over in march.

Congrats.

She will be just about 15 by the time she gets here. Have you got any advice for me.

Loads, my friend, loads, but not sure if any will be any good, I'll PM you.

BTW I've not any other kids, so it's gonna be new to me also.

Ha, Ha, belt up for a rough ride. Only joking, when it is good, it is very good, but if it goes bad, it can be very, very bad.

But there are many ingredients that go into this and many factors hat will shape the ultimate destiny of what will finally happen, however I will take a lot of that to PM.

Can your daughter speak English? Is she looking forward to coming or is it really at the behest of you and the Wife, this is important believe me?

The one thing that you will find and the greatest hurdle to overcome and that is integration into a wholly new environment and culture, but then I guess you know that already, but it is a world of difference for a mid-teen female.

She will have to get over the, 'wrench', of being taken away from not only, the only culture she has ever known, but the close proximity of a whole group of family members.

She has probably formed a tight knit set of friends, at this time of her life, these are the friends that generally last a lifetime, people she would confide things that she would never contemplate talking over with others, including the Mother.

Has she a close, ' special other', not exactly a boyfriend, but what teenagers call a, ' Gik', although others appear to have another description for this term, but it was explained to me as Gik, a special other, more than a friend but not quite anything more.

She will likely go through a roller coaster of a first few months at school, but they appear to have an uncanny knack of going through groups of friends, until they find the right group, ours really did find some great friends at the end.

All at a time when they are going through a great change in their body and mindset.

I gotta go, I will take the rest to PM, when the boy settles down.

Good Luck

Moss

Can your daughter speak English? Is she looking forward to coming or is it really at the behest of you and the Wife, this is important believe me?

Her english is improving but still alot of learning to do. And it is really her who wants to come here and be with her mum.

She has probably formed a tight knit set of friends, at this time of her life, these are the friends that generally last a lifetime, people she would confide things that she would never contemplate talking over with others, including the Mother.

Has she a close, ' special other', not exactly a boyfriend, but what teenagers call a, ' Gik', although others appear to have another description for this term, but it was explained to me as Gik, a special other, more than a friend but not quite anything more.

I'm not aware that she has a Gik" but yeah it will be a wrench leaving her friends. She is a bright girl and the only reason she hasn't come earlier is cos she wanted to finish her schooling in Thailand, just in case she ever wants to go back. We (mainly the mrs) have talked to her about life in England, food, weather etc and about leaving her friends. But she is adamant that this is what she wants. So we'll keep our fingers crossed.

I gotta go, I will take the rest to PM, when the boy settles down.

Good Luck

Cheers buddy

Her english is improving but still alot of learning to do.

Not a problem, within a couple of months she will be adequate at the least and I would suggest will be conversant to a level that will have you amazed, I couldn't believe the improvement and continued development in a very short space of time.

And it is really her who wants to come here

Then you have a major plus on your side, believe me this will be the make or break of the early development.

I have just deleted a long paragraph , perhaps that is best left to PM.

But she is adamant that this is what she wants.

Then I reckon, you have it covered.

Moss

There are other pointers, I might be able to help with, so I'll catch you later