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Evidently a female Farang was found dead on a small beach near Chong Mon in the early hours of Monday Morning. Head injuries and some clothing gone/destroyed.

No other info but understand that she was a local Chong Mon resident. Very heavy police presence but no statement or other details so far. If this can be verified it would seem that the authorities wish to keep this incident under wraps.

Posted

Well, there is a report of an Irishwoman drowned in Samui, but it appears it was an accident.

Irishwoman's body found in Thailand

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/norther...and/7103901.stm

Thai death woman was Dublin nurse

The name of the young Irish woman who drowned on a Thai island on Tuesday has been released.

She was Linda Crossan, a 28-year-old Dublin-based nurse from Greaghdermotitt, Carrickmacross, County Monaghan.

Friends who were travelling with Linda tired in vain to rescue the only girl in a family of five children.

In a statement the Crossan family said they did not know when her remains would be brought home.

Posted

Seems to be conflicting stories here - one says she was resident in Choeng Mon, one says she was Dublin-based and travelling with other people.

Would be very grateful for any info as it becomes available.

Posted

If its the same death, then I tend to believe a report by the friends who were there and the family who lost their loved one.

It may very well be two women died on the same day on Samui. Unlikely, but certainly possible.

Posted
Family pays tribute to daughter who drowned off coast of Thailand

Linda Crossan, who drowned swimming in Thailand, was a gifted student who loved to travel

By Pat Tierney and Grainne Cunningham

Wednesday November 21 2007

The grieving family of a young Irish woman whose body was discovered on a beach in Thailand yesterday spoke last night of her passion for travel.

Patrick Crossan and his three sons, from Carrickmacross, issued a statement following the drowning of his only daughter Linda (28) off the coast of Koh Samui island, in the south east of the country.

Mr Crossan, a builder, said: "This is a sad end to what would have been great holiday."

Linda's father and her four brothers Jonathan, Donal, Declan and Noel confirmed the "tragic death" and said last night's statement would be their only comment for now.

They described how Linda had drowned despite the efforts of her friends to save her.

Her family said the former Scoil Rois student was a popular and academically successful student, who loved to travel and had visited Thailand before as well as spending time travelling around India.

In her spare time, she enjoyed books, and also loved writing and knitting.

Her family concluded the statement by thanking "the many people who have helped them since the tragedy, including the gardai in Carrickmacross, Dr Rory O Hanlon, and the many family and friends, who have all helped them".

They also said they were not yet sure "when Linda's remains will be brought home to Carrickmacross for burial".

The family are being helped by the Department of Foreign Affairs and the Irish Consulate in Thailand.

A former school friend said last night : "We are all terribly shocked and want to know what exactly happened to her."

- Pat Tierney and Grainne Cunningham

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/fa...nd-1225712.html

That is, if it is the same drowning death of a farang woman that gatorade heard about.

Posted

I think it's reasonably safe to assume it's only 1 incident - certainly there's only been reports of 1 Irish person here.

I know there's been some bad weather recently, but is the Choeng Mon area notoriously bad for rip tides etc?

Posted

She was Irish. Her name was Linda Crossan, aged about 23/4. Yes the Koh Samui never revealed this to the press. They never do. Not since the Horton murder and rape.

Its in the Irish press. The news came from the parents. A Tourist police volunteer told the Irish embassy.

She was swimming alone it is said.

Evidently a female Farang was found dead on a small beach near Chong Mon in the early hours of Monday Morning. Head injuries and some clothing gone/destroyed.

No other info but understand that she was a local Chong Mon resident. Very heavy police presence but no statement or other details so far. If this can be verified it would seem that the authorities wish to keep this incident under wraps.

Posted
Evidently a female Farang was found dead on a small beach near Chong Mon in the early hours of Monday Morning. Head injuries and some clothing gone/destroyed.

No other info but understand that she was a local Chong Mon resident. Very heavy police presence but no statement or other details so far. If this can be verified it would seem that the authorities wish to keep this incident under wraps.

Perhaps Thaivisa should have a 'members breaking news' section to combat police secrecy over foreign deaths here - although the grapvine seems to work pretty well!

Posted

Interesting, because all reports from the family stated that her friends tried to save her. --Perhaps she went out alone and they saw she was in trouble.

Claymore, the problem with the grapevine is, as you see, it can be completely incorrect.

Posted
Interesting, because all reports from the family stated that her friends tried to save her. --Perhaps she went out alone and they saw she was in trouble.

Claymore, the problem with the grapevine is, as you see, it can be completely incorrect.

SBK you are right that the grapevine can be incorrect. However, in this case it wasn't completely incorrect. There was an incident, and no information was forthcoming. I felt the info was pertinent as it could have an effect on all of us living here, particularly had it not been a tragic accident, and there were other parties involved.

The only info concerning this unfortunate incident was at the time (to the best of my knowledge) from an overseas media source and until the post was made you seemed to be the only person who had any knowledge of this media report.

I tried to be most careful in passing the information to the Forum without speculation and it seemed to have the desired effect of securing more knowledge. So thank you for keeping us in the loop.

Posted
Interesting, because all reports from the family stated that her friends tried to save her. --Perhaps she went out alone and they saw she was in trouble.

Claymore, the problem with the grapevine is, as you see, it can be completely incorrect.

SBK you are right that the grapevine can be incorrect. However, in this case it wasn't completely incorrect. There was an incident, and no information was forthcoming. I felt the info was pertinent as it could have an effect on all of us living here, particularly had it not been a tragic accident, and there were other parties involved.

Wasn't completely incorrect?

Gatorade said:

Head injuries and some clothing gone/destroyed.

No other info but understand that she was a local Chong Mon resident.

"Understand" from whom?

I just shake my head...

ALLEGATION: I caught a fish with my teeth in the surf in Maenam that had two heads and tattooed arms and legs.

TRUTH: I caught a fish.

The allegation wasn't "completely incorrect."

:o

Posted
Interesting, because all reports from the family stated that her friends tried to save her. --Perhaps she went out alone and they saw she was in trouble.

Claymore, the problem with the grapevine is, as you see, it can be completely incorrect.

SBK you are right that the grapevine can be incorrect. However, in this case it wasn't completely incorrect. There was an incident, and no information was forthcoming. I felt the info was pertinent as it could have an effect on all of us living here, particularly had it not been a tragic accident, and there were other parties involved.

Wasn't completely incorrect?

Gatorade said:

Head injuries and some clothing gone/destroyed.

No other info but understand that she was a local Chong Mon resident.

"Understand" from whom?

I just shake my head...

ALLEGATION: I caught a fish with my teeth in the surf in Maenam that had two heads and tattooed arms and legs.

TRUTH: I caught a fish.

The allegation wasn't "completely incorrect."

:o

"from whom" = Local policeman, although this is really none of your business.

Why try to demean such a serious incident?

Posted
Interesting, because all reports from the family stated that her friends tried to save her. --Perhaps she went out alone and they saw she was in trouble.

Claymore, the problem with the grapevine is, as you see, it can be completely incorrect.

SBK you are right that the grapevine can be incorrect. However, in this case it wasn't completely incorrect. There was an incident, and no information was forthcoming. I felt the info was pertinent as it could have an effect on all of us living here, particularly had it not been a tragic accident, and there were other parties involved.

Wasn't completely incorrect?

Gatorade said:

Head injuries and some clothing gone/destroyed.

No other info but understand that she was a local Chong Mon resident.

"Understand" from whom?

I just shake my head...

ALLEGATION: I caught a fish with my teeth in the surf in Maenam that had two heads and tattooed arms and legs.

TRUTH: I caught a fish.

The allegation wasn't "completely incorrect."

:o

"from whom" = Local policeman, although this is really none of your business.

Why try to demean such a serious incident?

Come on Girls!! get a grip! Pathetic.

Posted
Interesting, because all reports from the family stated that her friends tried to save her. --Perhaps she went out alone and they saw she was in trouble.

Claymore, the problem with the grapevine is, as you see, it can be completely incorrect.

SBK you are right that the grapevine can be incorrect. However, in this case it wasn't completely incorrect. There was an incident, and no information was forthcoming. I felt the info was pertinent as it could have an effect on all of us living here, particularly had it not been a tragic accident, and there were other parties involved.

Wasn't completely incorrect?

Gatorade said:

Head injuries and some clothing gone/destroyed.

No other info but understand that she was a local Chong Mon resident.

"Understand" from whom?

I just shake my head...

ALLEGATION: I caught a fish with my teeth in the surf in Maenam that had two heads and tattooed arms and legs.

TRUTH: I caught a fish.

The allegation wasn't "completely incorrect."

:o

"from whom" = Local policeman, although this is really none of your business.

Why try to demean such a serious incident?

Come on Girls!! get a grip! Pathetic.

Your point? I thought that this was a forum for exchanging information which I tried to do. Your input didn't seem to add anything apart from the cheap shot, and hardly constructive. But......if that is the best you can do.

I suppose that is the weakness in a forum such as this of being able to be brave in anonymity. :D

Posted

No the grapevine is not usually completely incorrect. It has been quite hot on occasions tho sometimes it takes a few posts to get there. Early on for instance I knew an Irish girl was found floating off KS, with some injuries. Also knew police were being difficult as usual. It is true the family say she was with friends, but they do not really know. But on checking with her villa it became apparent she had arrived alone and was not with a group. None of these friends have surfaced to so speak. There were no witnesses to this girls' drowning.

This forum can in fact bring out a lot more facts and completely different stories than those published in the local press (most of whom have to work hand in hand with the police for their basic existence). Of course there is going to be the odd flame and more than a few t_ssers. But they tend to drift away when they are shown to be the pr...s that they are

Interesting, because all reports from the family stated that her friends tried to save her. --Perhaps she went out alone and they saw she was in trouble.

Claymore, the problem with the grapevine is, as you see, it can be completely incorrect.

SBK you are right that the grapevine can be incorrect. However, in this case it wasn't completely incorrect. There was an incident, and no information was forthcoming. I felt the info was pertinent as it could have an effect on all of us living here, particularly had it not been a tragic accident, and there were other parties involved.

The only info concerning this unfortunate incident was at the time (to the best of my knowledge) from an overseas media source and until the post was made you seemed to be the only person who had any knowledge of this media report.

I tried to be most careful in passing the information to the Forum without speculation and it seemed to have the desired effect of securing more knowledge. So thank you for keeping us in the loop.

Posted
No the grapevine is not usually completely incorrect. It has been quite hot on occasions tho sometimes it takes a few posts to get there. Early on for instance I knew an Irish girl was found floating off KS, with some injuries. Also knew police were being difficult as usual. It is true the family say she was with friends, but they do not really know. But on checking with her villa it became apparent she had arrived alone and was not with a group. None of these friends have surfaced to so speak. There were no witnesses to this girls' drowning.

This forum can in fact bring out a lot more facts and completely different stories than those published in the local press (most of whom have to work hand in hand with the police for their basic existence). Of course there is going to be the odd flame and more than a few t_ssers. But they tend to drift away when they are shown to be the pr...s that they are

Interesting, because all reports from the family stated that her friends tried to save her. --Perhaps she went out alone and they saw she was in trouble.

Claymore, the problem with the grapevine is, as you see, it can be completely incorrect.

SBK you are right that the grapevine can be incorrect. However, in this case it wasn't completely incorrect. There was an incident, and no information was forthcoming. I felt the info was pertinent as it could have an effect on all of us living here, particularly had it not been a tragic accident, and there were other parties involved.

The only info concerning this unfortunate incident was at the time (to the best of my knowledge) from an overseas media source and until the post was made you seemed to be the only person who had any knowledge of this media report.

I tried to be most careful in passing the information to the Forum without speculation and it seemed to have the desired effect of securing more knowledge. So thank you for keeping us in the loop.

Claymore, nicely stated. However, it does make one realise that there are many so-called contributors to the forum

who have nothing to offer but cheap jibes and unconstructive views. It is a shame, because it can be so helpful/useful

when trying to get an accurate picture in an environment which can control the distribution of sensitive information.

Posted

One thing to remember, tho, is that the forum is pretty anonymous, so although Claymore claims this to be the truth, that doesn't necessarily make it so. Not saying he's lying, just that I tend to take things with a grain of salt

Especially after reading the statement of her family:

Linda's father and her four brothers Jonathan, Donal, Declan and Noel confirmed the "tragic death" and said last night's statement would be their only comment for now.

They described how Linda had drowned despite the efforts of her friends to save her.

Posted

You'll have to take my word for it, but I am not going to deliberately lie to this forum. Nor indeed should you necessarily believe foreign press cuttings.

People on the spot (even though some may misinterpret what they have seen) are much more valuable. This girls body was found at sea. She was not reported missing by anybody until the next day when the guest house owner lodged a report when she failed to return to her room.

I see you have put on hold my suggestion which I posted into the General Discussion Forum. You might give it some thought, though.

One thing to remember, tho, is that the forum is pretty anonymous, so although Claymore claims this to be the truth, that doesn't necessarily make it so. Not saying he's lying, just that I tend to take things with a grain of salt

Especially after reading the statement of her family:

Linda's father and her four brothers Jonathan, Donal, Declan and Noel confirmed the "tragic death" and said last night's statement would be their only comment for now.

They described how Linda had drowned despite the efforts of her friends to save her.

Posted

It is not on hold, it is in forum support where it belongs, as it is addressed to the admin of this site that is the appropriate place for it.

As for taking your word for it, well, I guess that just points to the crux of the matter doesn't it? Trust the word of a total and anonymous stranger on an internet forum.

Posted
It is not on hold, it is in forum support where it belongs, as it is addressed to the admin of this site that is the appropriate place for it.

As for taking your word for it, well, I guess that just points to the crux of the matter doesn't it? Trust the word of a total and anonymous stranger on an internet forum.

Fine. Maybe G will get back to me. But it was actually up for general discussion as to whether this was a worthwhile idea or not with an n.b. to admin.

And actually facts r sometimes easily verifiable. I am sure TV must have its share of total idiots, but I guess there are some out there with a worthwhile contribution.

Am I anonymous to admin!

Posted

quite sbk, bitchy much John 1.!!! Don't make a habit of it. :o

As sbk has stated, admin have the final call on here but the line on these types of things are always to disallow them unless there is an accredited news source. This isn't sbk's or any other mods descision so unless you have a close personal relationship with one of the admin then, no they wont know you or know they can trust your information.

Posted

Lets keep this somewhat on topic please.

Anyway, as boo stated, admin prefers accredited news sources so until you can come up with something else -, lets keep the speculation to a minimum.

Posted
quite sbk, bitchy much John 1.!!! Don't make a habit of it. :o

As sbk has stated, admin have the final call on here but the line on these types of things are always to disallow them unless there is an accredited news source. This isn't sbk's or any other mods descision so unless you have a close personal relationship with one of the admin then, no they wont know you or know they can trust your information.

Actually if you look around ThaiVisa people are always reporting events in their area and adding their personal knowledge. Its not such a big deal. Some may be right, some may be wrong. Accredited news sources after all get their information from the authorities - and people on the spot. However I am not going to labour this point. The admi may feel there are good reasons why this may not work....I do so love being patronised though :D

Posted
Fine. Maybe G will get back to me. But it was actually up for general discussion as to whether this was a worthwhile idea or not with an n.b. to admin.

There was a discussion & admin say no, discussion then become moot as admin have the final say. Compaining about mine or sbks advice that admin will probbaly & have now actually, said no isn't a discussion, it is just complaining for the sake of it. But if you are still unahappy about it then please contact admin direct, maybe a pm with the response they have posted in the support forum may better please you.

Am I anonymous to admin
....I do so love being patronised though

you asked the question & I replied that unless you have a close personal relationship with admin then no they wouldn't trust your word alone, if thats patronising to you then you took my straightforward response too personally & probably would have found something of an issue in anything I wrote IMO.

Posted
Fine. Maybe G will get back to me. But it was actually up for general discussion as to whether this was a worthwhile idea or not with an n.b. to admin.

There was a discussion & admin say no, discussion then become moot as admin have the final say. Compaining about mine or sbks advice that admin will probbaly & have now actually, said no isn't a discussion, it is just complaining for the sake of it. But if you are still unahappy about it then please contact admin direct, maybe a pm with the response they have posted in the support forum may better please you.

Am I anonymous to admin
....I do so love being patronised though

you asked the question & I replied that unless you have a close personal relationship with admin then no they wouldn't trust your word alone, if thats patronising to you then you took my straightforward response too personally & probably would have found something of an issue in anything I wrote IMO.

I wasnt referring to your comment boo. I'm happy to let the idea rest though. Its rather labouring a point now.

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