To those of you who are interested in the new PVR (Personal Video Recorder). I paid 14,999 baht and have been using it for over a month now. It works very well and it is definitely worth the money. When it was first installed it would not work, but within minutes the engineer renewed the LNB and set it up. For anyone who loves watching TV, watching movies and sport, it is an excellent way to store and watch your programmes in your own time. The built in 160GB hard drive is ample for recording all your favourites.

Maybe it is initially a lot to pay but the technology compared to the old tape videos recorders is amazing. It was especially useful for watching the European Nations Cup in June. Most matches were broadcast live here at 3am.

Easy to set up and record, you can even record whilst you are watching a recording, it makes me wonder how I ever did without it. Well done Truevision. Sometimes they have a lot of complaints on here from different people, all I can say is that I am a very satisfied customer.

Very interesting. Been waiting for some feedback.

Can't decide whether to go PVR or get digital recorder.

Question: I know you can watch and record different channels at the same time, but is it possible to record two different channels at the same time?

True vision repeated it's movies and sports so many time, is it really worth it.

True vision repeated it's movies and sports so many time, is it really worth it.

Doesn't matter how many times something is repeated, if you are busy, it can be hard to be in front of the TV at the time something you want to watch is on. Having it recorded means you watch when it suits you, not when it suits True Visions. I guess though if you have a lot of freetime not an issue.

Actually, in the case of Premiership games, last year they only seemed to repeat once or at most twice, and then the repeated version was like an extended highlights version, not the full match.

One feature that i'm disappointed to hear PVR doesn't have, is the ability to extend recording when something like a sports events runs over time.

Very interesting. Been waiting for some feedback.

Can't decide whether to go PVR or get digital recorder.

Question: I know you can watch and record different channels at the same time, but is it possible to record two different channels at the same time?

No, you cannot record two channels at the same time because it is a single tuner model.

Very interesting. Been waiting for some feedback.

Can't decide whether to go PVR or get digital recorder.

Question: I know you can watch and record different channels at the same time, but is it possible to record two different channels at the same time?

No, you cannot record two channels at the same time because it is a single tuner model.

Single tuner? Really? I thought i'd seen it advertised as having two tuners, and that was why you are able to watch one thing whilst recording another. No?

Very interesting. Been waiting for some feedback.

Can't decide whether to go PVR or get digital recorder.

Question: I know you can watch and record different channels at the same time, but is it possible to record two different channels at the same time?

No, you cannot record two channels at the same time because it is a single tuner model.

Single tuner? Really? I thought i'd seen it advertised as having two tuners, and that was why you are able to watch one thing whilst recording another. No?

I think what you are looking for is a twin tuner. Then you can record two channels at the same time.

UBC/True has absolutely nothing worth viewing, much less recording.

Very interesting. Been waiting for some feedback.

Can't decide whether to go PVR or get digital recorder.

Question: I know you can watch and record different channels at the same time, but is it possible to record two different channels at the same time?

No, you cannot record two channels at the same time because it is a single tuner model.

Single tuner? Really? I thought i'd seen it advertised as having two tuners, and that was why you are able to watch one thing whilst recording another. No?

I think what you are looking for is a twin tuner. Then you can record two channels at the same time.

That's what i thought PVR boasted - a twin tuner so you can watch one thing whilst recording another. Not so i take it?

yes it is a twin tuner, but only a single recorder, so you can record one channel while you watch another but cant record two channels ...ok.

What I cant get over is the fact that you have to buy the machine up front but then also have to pay a rent to use it afterwards as well.

HL

yes it is a twin tuner, but only a single recorder, so you can record one channel while you watch another but cant record two channels ...ok.

What I cant get over is the fact that you have to buy the machine up front but then also have to pay a rent to use it afterwards as well.

HL

Same here - pay for it up front and then pay rent on it . Crazy. TIT.

Of course, if the competition had something equivalent...

Oops, hang on, there is no competition. Explains it all.

UBC/True has absolutely nothing worth viewing, much less recording.

my thoughts exactly- if they actually had some decent tv shows instead of the crap on true series, and good movies that aren't repeated all the time, i might care to get a PVR.

yes it is a twin tuner, but only a single recorder, so you can record one channel while you watch another but cant record two channels ...ok.

What I cant get over is the fact that you have to buy the machine up front but then also have to pay a rent to use it afterwards as well.

HL

There already has been a lot of feedback on the PVR on TV already, and most of it is good. For one year, you don't have to pay any maintenance fees (the rent you are talking about). After that, it is THB 300 per month. Up to you. I like it.

In the US, i use a twin receiver TIVO, and this is one of the best inventions ever made Of course, I do really like television. And while in Thailand, I can access and watch my TIVO via Slingbox, albeit the quality suffers as I almost never get my paid-for streaming rate on the internet.

I will admit that the shows here are ot as good and repeat too much, but still, there are a few shows I want to be albe to watch without worrying about traffic and getting back home in time. But there is also the ability to pause the program to answer the phone, get a drink, go to the bathroom, or answering one of the million questions my g/f asks while watching tv.

The service fee is about the same as it is in the US and reasonable. But the cost for the recordere is rather high. I am going to find out if a US machine will work in Thailand or if it is NTSC-specific.

is it possible to use a personal TiVo with UBC?

It's amazing to me that anyone would buy this thing, kinda like make reservations for a bad restaurant.

Really, you folks are telling me that there is stuff on TRUE that is worth recording and is not repeated 100 times over on a regular basis?

easy there, killer. just asking a question, it's going to be OK.

i tend to watch a *lot* of football. yes, i have that kinda time, no, you don't need to judge me. if i want to pay cash money that i have *earned* to watch a *lot* of football, i certainly don't require your hatred for all things awesome. it's all too hurtful, you're all too angry.

UBC/True has absolutely nothing worth viewing, much less recording.

The OP won't be using too much of his HDD recording the Olympics

easy there, killer. just asking a question, it's going to be OK.

i tend to watch a *lot* of football. yes, i have that kinda time, no, you don't need to judge me. if i want to pay cash money that i have *earned* to watch a *lot* of football, i certainly don't require your hatred for all things awesome. it's all too hurtful, you're all too angry.

Ok Fernado, don't have a stroke. It's awesome is ok, I will take your word for it.

As other people have said, stuff is repeated so often on TrueBC, that watching further recordings of it might be bordering on obsessive / compulsive disorder. Or certainly masochism.

..and if you have bothered to look through their TV guide, you will notice their ads flogging TVR are repeated almost as much as their programmes.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the fast food ads, who here would really bother to open up that rag when it comes in the post?

Love to have one,but wifey would cut of my d....

Eagerly waiting for High Definition though..

..and if you have bothered to look through their TV guide, you will notice their ads flogging TVR are repeated almost as much as their programmes.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the fast food ads, who here would really bother to open up that rag when it comes in the post?

Not even my wife bothers to open it.

We've had a generic hard disk recorder HDR for quite some time - and before True came up with the idea of making money from another monopoly with their PVR. It was a one-off cost at a similar price, and there will never be any rental fee on it, unlike True. So in the long run True will be more expensive as usual...We bought it after seeing what my parents had back in farangland.

The only reason that I might consider converting to True's own monopoly machine is that they haven't yet made available the Electronic Programme Guide (EPG) in any other format, unless you buy their monopoly machine. Personally I think that should be available anyway for people who have normal cable, so that's not a good reason either...

I also like the idea of not purchasing True products where possible, in the hope one day monopolies will end, like AIS. Hence I'll stick with what we have. I also wonder if True PVR would work on other cable systems, or is it blocked in some way, like AIS used to do on mobile phones. Our system is portable and compatible...

I wouldn't say it's great value for money at 15k whether generic or True's PVR. It's the programming quality that counts. There's a lot of crap on True, plus the picture quality is poor by international standards, which are the underlying problems. The PVR looks crap compared to versions in farangland, though again I expect that is more down to True.

BTW If recording programmes is the main issue: We also have a VCR/VDO which used to be wired up to the second box, and had this before the HDR. You can buy a VCR/VDO for one or two thousand baht if recording's your aim. The quality on True is only VCR quality anyway, and the digital quality of the HDD recorder is wasted.

BTW2 The main benefit I think is the "time buffer". For football fans being able to pause live TV when the takeaway arrives, is what you're really paying for...

As other people have said, stuff is repeated so often on TrueBC, that watching further recordings of it might be bordering on obsessive / compulsive disorder. Or certainly masochism.

i think the opposite is the case. without my PVR (not True) i wouldn't watch True at all. the PVR provides the opportunity to record 24/7, then dump all True-rubbish and just watch what is of interest.

It's amazing to me that anyone would buy this thing, kinda like make reservations for a bad restaurant.

Really, you folks are telling me that there is stuff on TRUE that is worth recording and is not repeated 100 times over on a regular basis?

for me there is!

As other people have said, stuff is repeated so often on TrueBC, that watching further recordings of it might be bordering on obsessive / compulsive disorder. Or certainly masochism.

i think the opposite is the case. without my PVR (not True) i wouldn't watch True at all. the PVR provides the opportunity to record 24/7, then dump all True-rubbish and just watch what is of interest.

Yes but you don't even need True to watch AF5 mate, they show it on free TV also.

COME TO THAILAND ,THE LAND OF YOUR DREAMS ----AND SIT AROUND WATCHING TV RECORDING PROGS THAT ARE REPEATED SO MANY TIMES ITS HARDLY WORTH EVEN PAYING FOR THE CRAP THEY PUT ON.

COME ON LADS DONT BE SO SAD.

ALSO WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE EXTRA CHANNELS THEY KEEP ADVERTISING THE LATEST STUFF ON DO YOU NOW HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR THEM?

As other people have said, stuff is repeated so often on TrueBC, that watching further recordings of it might be bordering on obsessive / compulsive disorder. Or certainly masochism.

i think the opposite is the case. without my PVR (not True) i wouldn't watch True at all. the PVR provides the opportunity to record 24/7, then dump all True-rubbish and just watch what is of interest.

I agree with you entirely. I would be lost if I didn't have this machine. Well worth the money.

G'day,

To all PVR owners, did the video quality improve over the STB? I am assuming when you are using the PVR, you would use component video cables as well.

I am thinking of upgrading to the PVR for that very reason.

thanks

Matt