Big Bikes Garage?

[Tod]

Can anybody recognize what garage it is on that picture?

http://www.bikez.biz/ads/showad.php?ad=26855

They seem to have a lot of good deals....

[withnail]

It's written at the back on the wall. In quite large writing I might add

http://www.worldbikezone.com/

[nakedAIR1300]

It's written at the back on the wall. In quite large writing I might add

http://www.worldbikezone.com/

classic!

[Tod]

Lol, thanks

Anybody knows that shop?

Reliable?

[thaicbr]

expensive by the look of it....aint it one of the ones that have closed..........dunno

[Tod]

expensive by the look of it....aint it one of the ones that have closed..........dunno

You think expensive?

I thought it was really reasonable prices...

How much would be a good price for a 2nd hand CB400 with green book and fully legal (year 2003-2007)?

[withnail]

Agree it doesn't look too pricey when you compare it to Red Baron or a 15 year old one on motorcyc.com

[dotcom]

180,000

[JUDAS]

Looks like it's plus xxxxx Baht for green book too. Only one bike wearing a plate. Could be totally wrong though

[thaicbr]

YER and how do you know its a legal green book. i have a cbr250 with green book every thing looks ok but still not SURE.

I WOULD JUST BUY a Kawasaki ninja 250 110% legal, warranty and cheaper. and probably faster,more economical and fun.

just had another look it states that they are invoice. so yer expensive as hel_l. shit you can get a brand new 2008 invoice cb400 for 220.230thou.

but as i say why when the Ninja is a better,cheaper ,legal bike

Allan

[dotcom]

Red Baron has a bunch of Brand New CB400 right now.

[withnail]

Didn't see the invoice bit, so cancel what I said earlier. Was seriously concidering a cb400 a few months back but all the concern has made me reconcider. Hence I'm hanging around in here everyday waiting to get a straight answer about what bikes will be available in 2009.

[Tod]

YER and how do you know its a legal green book. i have a cbr250 with green book every thing looks ok but still not SURE.

I WOULD JUST BUY a Kawasaki ninja 250 110% legal, warranty and cheaper. and probably faster,more economical and fun.

just had another look it states that they are invoice. so yer expensive as hel_l. shit you can get a brand new 2008 invoice cb400 for 220.230thou.

but as i say why when the Ninja is a better,cheaper ,legal bike

Allan

I don't know, that's why I was asking if anybody knew something about that shop.

BTW what is "invoice"?

[thaicbr]

Invoice means that the shop has imported the bike in bits in several different containers so as to avoid paying the correct customs duty. eg the bike is 'spare parts'.

the 'invoice' would allow MAYBE a chance to get a green book. If every thing is in order.

It also means that the BIB will stop you on a regular basis for you to donate to the drinking fund. and if you are really unlucky you might get caught in a Customs check point in which case they will impound it. never to be seen again.

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That's why i strongly suggest you only buy from the main BIG bike manufacturers like Kawasaki,Yamaha,BMW,Ducati or Triumph.

That way you get proper warranty, spares back up and service. also the finance schemes seem ok if you have work permit etc

Tod there are numerous threads referring to 'invoice' and green book problems, it would pay to read them carefully if you are going to buy a Big bike here.

Regards Allan

[JUDAS]

Yep, would agree with thaicbr. I would certainly feel more comfortable at a checkpoint etc knowing my bike was 100% straight.

[dotcom]

An "invoice" means the customs duties have been paid.

Red Baron do not import bikes in pieces. You will need an invoice to get the bike registered. Or even better let the dealer register it.

[Tod]

Is it illegal to import bikes in pieces in Thailand?

How can you find out if the custom duties have duly been paid?

I would really like to buy a CB400 for about 150'000-200'000 baht, but 355'000 from red baron is more than what I want to spend for this bike...

[thaicbr]

Dotcom are you sure that the Customs duty have been paid on a Built up bike as required or on parts. if this is so how is it that customs still impound vehicles on a regular basis. as for Red Baron i do not know how they import the bikes but i do know how the vast majority of Thai bike shops bring the bikes in.

because i have seen the bikes being built out of the parts and boxes with different container numbers.

If Red Baron have the bikes come in ready built then its a suprise that they still sell them without registration.

Allan

[thaicbr]

Tod. Just asking but why a CB400?

[CroBiker]

An "invoice" means the customs duties have been paid.

Red Baron do not import bikes in pieces. You will need an invoice to get the bike registered. Or even better let the dealer register it.

Exactly!

Is it illegal to import bikes in pieces in Thailand?

How can you find out if the custom duties have duly been paid?

I would really like to buy a CB400 for about 150'000-200'000 baht, but 355'000 from red baron is more than what I want to spend for this bike...

It is not illegal importing bikes in pieces. Just make sure it is done through authorized dealer, preferably honest one - currently in short supply though.

Paying 355k for 400cc bike is ridiculous Tod. Example; for that amount you can get yourself 5 year old Busa GSXR 1300 with fully legit paperwork. Look around and you'll find them. Don't fall for this hysteria about all big bikes in Thailand being illegal. Lots of real bikers outside these forums, talk to them and you'll get reliable information.

[dotcom]

If Red Baron have the bikes come in ready built then its a suprise that they still sell them without registration.

Allan

I think when you buy a motorcycle from Red Baron it is registered & has a plate.

The owners back in Japan have no wish to be closed down ala Siam Superbike.

[dotcom]

Is it illegal to import bikes in pieces in Thailand?

How can you find out if the custom duties have duly been paid?

I would really like to buy a CB400 for about 150'000-200'000 baht, but 355'000 from red baron is more than what I want to spend for this bike...

Sorry I don't understand. You want to buy a "Brand New" CB400? Year 2008-2009?

If that's too expensive buy a used one.

[Tod]

Is it illegal to import bikes in pieces in Thailand?

How can you find out if the custom duties have duly been paid?

I would really like to buy a CB400 for about 150'000-200'000 baht, but 355'000 from red baron is more than what I want to spend for this bike...

Sorry I don't understand. You want to buy a "Brand New" CB400? Year 2008-2009?

If that's too expensive buy a used one.

I would buy a new one if the price was not so ridiculously expensive. As Crobiker said below 355k for a 400cc bike is completely out of question.

That's why I asked if anybody knew :

http://www.worldbikezone.com/

and if it was a reliable shop. The 2 second hand CB400 (2004-2005)that they have on their website seems like a relatively good deal if the price includes registration and legit green book.

[dotcom]

I doubt it.

Add 40,000 for a plate.

[Tod]

Tod. Just asking but why a CB400?

I had a CB600 in Europe a few years back and I rented a CB400 in Pattaya a few times. Thought it would be a good bike for where I live in Thailand.

I can confess it's not my dream bike, but good enough to cruise around the country.

Unfortunately I cant afford a Z1000 or FZ1 at the moment so I'll satisfy myself with a CB400 or a honda steed.

[dotcom]

If you get to Bangkok shoot me a pm. I'll show you the place I bought mine.

He has VTEC models (NC39).

[thaicbr]

Todd i know i keep saying it but have a look at the Ninja. talking with several owners tells me its a very competent motorcycle and 110% legal. i would think its possibly faster then the fairly heavy,clunky cb400. i tried a yam xjr400 before i got my CBR250 and can say i was NOT impressed. but each to their own.

I know where you can get a Ninja 'just 80km on the clock nearly new for just 125,000 baht'

Allan

[Tod]

Todd i know i keep saying it but have a look at the Ninja. talking with several owners tells me its a very competent motorcycle and 110% legal. i would think its possibly faster then the fairly heavy,clunky cb400. i tried a yam xjr400 before i got my CBR250 and can say i was NOT impressed. but each to their own.

I know where you can get a Ninja 'just 80km on the clock nearly new for just 125,000 baht'

Allan

I had a ninja 636 and a ZX9R. Riding a ninja 250 would be a big step backward.

I also really doubt it would compete in the same category as a CB400 ( I might be wrong, never tried one)

As I said before, I want a bike to cruise around, don't want to push it all the time to get some "OK" performances.

Another thing is the driving position; wasn't comfortable at all with the 636 and the 9R.

[LivinLOS]

Dotcom are you sure that the Customs duty have been paid on a Built up bike as required or on parts. if this is so how is it that customs still impound vehicles on a regular basis. as for Red Baron i do not know how they import the bikes but i do know how the vast majority of Thai bike shops bring the bikes in.

because i have seen the bikes being built out of the parts and boxes with different container numbers.

If Red Baron have the bikes come in ready built then its a suprise that they still sell them without registration.

Allan

Its part of the process of having the green book issues, to pay the customs fees based on complete bike.. Page 18 of a green book should / might / sometimes includes "this bike was made from parts, and the taxes paid are xxxx"

[Tod]

If you get to Bangkok shoot me a pm. I'll show you the place I bought mine.

He has VTEC models (NC39).

You drive a CB400 as well?

Are you happy with it?

Sure, I'll send you a message when I come. I'm very busy at the moment, but I'll probably come down to Bkk at the beginning of next month.

I'm trying to find as many garages that are worth checking.

Anybody can recommend this one? http://www.tpmotorcycle.com/