I Have My Artshow In October , Do I Need A Work Permit For That ?

[guyidofrance]

Hi every one .

In october I have my art work shown in a Bangkok Gallery , Gossip , and now Iam confused of that is lagal or not .

Iam from the Netherlands and made the art here in Bangkok becouse the transport of an artpresentation is far to expensive...

so now in october , my name will be on tv ,magazines and news papers .

the contacts are made.

a part of my show , the money , go s to a thai charity project .

there s going to be an oction to.

has any one an idea about what I should do ?

thanks for thinking about it.....

[RubbaJohnny]

Even volunteers need Wp

Seek advice at Embassy before going to huge expense

The paperwork is huge and you have left it v late

A powerful Thai sponsor Polce?Army Hi-so is probably beter able to grease the wheels.

Of course if its really for charity stay home and donate the air fare

If as Tai Tax Officeore likely to regard as acommercial transaction prepare to pay tax on auctioned items and possibly import tax

PS Its all totally corrupt so anything is possible

Tot ziens

[ubonjoe]

I think the people that you are working with to organize your show will be the people that need to answer your question. I am sure this is not the first time they have done this sort of thing. Either them or a lawyer.

[lazygourmet]

Within the hospitality industry, I have met several chefs and sommeliers who are coming, once or twice a year in Bangkok, to participate at some food festivals and culinary events.

Their names and pictures are well promoted before the event ; so it is all legal on paper.

I do not know the exact definition of this kind of temporary work permit they are using; but it is the organizer (hotel in that case) who arrange it and it is valid for 15 days, as far as I remember.

[Mario2008]

You have 2 different situations.

1 is the art show, which is done by the gallery. You are probably all right there, as the galery will do all the work and you just do the talk, not unlike business meeting.

2. Is the making of the art, with the intend to sell it. You will need a work permit for that.

[guyidofrance]

You have 2 different situations.

1 is the art show, which is done by the gallery. You are probably all right there, as the galery will do all the work and you just do the talk, not unlike business meeting.

2. Is the making of the art, with the intend to sell it. You will need a work permit for that.

ok Mario , thats clear to me.

the artwork is allready made, so I dont work on that.

but yes its part for sale and part for oction /charity , is that the gallery part?

they sell it isnt?

hopefully

Iam not there to sell ,they do, its their job....

I pay for the gallery , so thats maybe a point ?

I pay to have my show.....

and now how do you organise a work permit as Iam not a business, but a freelancer ?

I dont work for the gallery....so they cant do a thing for me I think.

why are things here so complicated ....

[Mario2008]

Both the selling and auction are both what I call the galery part. You don't do any work there, other then perhaps say a few words and a have a conversation with people attending.

That is more or less the same as a business meeting, for which no work permit is required.

That you pay for the gallery is not a big issue either. It means you pay someone to do work for you.

Normaly you need to employ some Thai nationals in order to get a work permit if you start your own business. Maybe there are exeptions for artists, although i don't think so.

[bjhabal]

I think you are OK, up to this point, but I strongly recommend that you follow "ubonjoe" advise stated here earlier, this is the most logical answer.

Good luck

Bishop

[jazzbo]

OK, I'll do my "armchair quarterback" attorney on this one: Sounds to me like you are a contractor more than an employee. You do not need a work permit as an art gallery contractor any more than you do when you 'contract' your hotel room. About the provenance of the artwork itself, in the unlikely event that it becomes an issue, the works of art were brought over to Thailand from the Netherlands as airline baggage by your many friends. Tax issues from the sale proceeds may be another matter and your main concern.

[guyidofrance]

thanks everyone.

the gallery told me that they will take all responsabillity .

Iam invited by them.

tax yes , I will inform myself about that

regards

guido

[lopburi3]

Did they say how they would do that? It is you at risk - not them. I expect there will not be a problem; but if there were I would not expect much "help". Ask some of the teachers who have been hung out to dry by there schools.

[jazzbo]

guyidofrance -- Just make sure that you have a very official looking receipt from the gallery that shows that YOU are contracting and paying for the services of the gallery. Last I checked a teacher who was hung out to dry would not have such a document showing that HE has hired the school...

Also request copies of very detailed invoices, receipts, etc. that that the gallery (I presume) will give to the customers, any commissions the gallery takes in addition to your contracting fees, etc. How you then deal with the Revenue boys is, at least for the time being, beyond me.