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Yeah. Suuuure. :)

Nearly all of my misteaks are deliberate.

I don't know what your problem is, but I don't mind that you have one.

I admit to my mistakes, and I have an open mind whereby if someone says something credible....take Bonobo's last post, I sit up and take notice and am willing to look at another's opinion.

Which is more than can be said for anyone on your side of this discussion....especially you.

Yes, some of my spelling mistakes have been deliberate to see your reaction...call it person-specific trolling.

If you want to call me a bad speller...I admit it. If you want to call me pompous.....I just see it as your admission of having a lesser vocabulary, and I don't hold it against you. If you want to call me a liar, be prepared for a backlash.

Actually, I should correct my broad statement above. Sometimes, some on your side concede points.

Come on Chuck, I've seen you reading this thread couple of times...where's your retort? No doubt an irrational and unreasonable retort...but why can't you respond?

Do you call me a liar? Your sarcastic "yeah suuure" implies you think I'm a liar. So don't go down the weak weak weak road that you usually go down of, "Where did I say xxxxxxx??".... Just because you didn't say it directly you think you can hide behind your insinuations. We are not all as simple as that Mr Spelling.

??? How do you want to go on from here? Your choice. I can handle anything you throw at me and will happily go down any path, war or peace.

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Interesting. All those years of all out war and bombing in Vietnam resulted in about the same number of deaths the Left says have been killed in Iraq by the USA during 6 years - most of that time spent patrolling the streets and dodging IEDs.

As for VN Depends on which source you use..... & wiki does list Iraq as

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

And Afghanistan as....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_civil...2%80%93present)

Also they have a accidntal caused by coalition forces section

So I would say that is not a left? view.

Here is their VN page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

Then again wiki is not what I would call reliable as it is editable by anyone I believe

So now that brings us to your official number & why it is acceptable?

You can find it on the 2nd or 3rd page of this topic along with the reasons.

Yeah. Suuuure. :)

Nearly all of my misteaks are deliberate.

I don't know what your problem is, but I don't mind that you have one.

I admit to my mistakes, and I have an open mind whereby if someone says something credible....take Bonobo's last post, I sit up and take notice and am willing to look at another's opinion.

Which is more than can be said for anyone on your side of this discussion....especially you.

Yes, some of my spelling mistakes have been deliberate to see your reaction...call it person-specific trolling.

If you want to call me a bad speller...I admit it. If you want to call me pompous.....I just see it as your admission of having a lesser vocabulary, and I don't hold it against you. If you want to call me a liar, be prepared for a backlash.

Actually, I should correct my broad statement above. Sometimes, some on your side concede points.

Come on Chuck, I've seen you reading this thread couple of times...where's your retort? No doubt an irrational and unreasonable retort...but why can't you respond?

Do you call me a liar? Your sarcastic "yeah suuure" implies you think I'm a liar. So don't go down the weak weak weak road that you usually go down of, "Where did I say xxxxxxx??".... Just because you didn't say it directly you think you can hide behind your insinuations. We are not all as simple as that Mr Spelling.

??? How do you want to go on from here? Your choice. I can handle anything you throw at me and will happily go down any path, war or peace.

I've been tied up doing something much more productive than reading your posts. My grass has been growing and I needed to watch it.

Do you have a problem with me reading this thread? The thread owner, Flying, has already told me I can't post here any more so I just thought I had been banned from posting.

Is it OK for me to post now or do I have to get flying's approval?

You guys are a joke, but I'll be back when the time is right. Just relax, you are still on my agenda.

I am certain this will be spun out of sight by some of you.

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7 IN 10 AFGHANS SUPPORT US FORCES

KABUL – Nearly seven in 10 Afghans support the presence of U.S. forces in their country, and 61 percent favor the military buildup of 37,000 U.S. and NATO reinforcements now deploying, according to a poll released Monday.

Support for U.S. and NATO forces, however, drops sharply in the south and east where the fighting is the most intense, the poll said.

Nationwide, 10 percent of Afghans support the Taliban, but the insurgents are backed by a higher percent of the population — 27 percent — in the country's southwest, the poll said.

The poll of a national random sample of 1,534 Afghan adults was conducted from Dec. 11 to Dec. 23 by ABC News, the BBC and ARD German TV, their fifth since 2005. The poll has an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points. Field work was done by the Afghan Center for Socio-Economic and Opinion Research in Kabul, a subsidiary of D3 Systems Inc. in Vienna, Va.

After steep declines in recent years, nearly seven in 10 Afghans also think their nation is headed in the right direction. That's up 30 percent since January 2009. The number of Afghans who expect their lives will be better a year from now also has jumped 20 percentage points from a year ago — to a new high of 71 percent, the poll said.

Moreover, 61 percent of the Afghans surveyed said they expect the next generation will have a better life — up 14 percent in the past 12 months, according to the poll.

However, Afghans' views about the direction the nation is headed are gloomier in high-conflict areas, such as Helmand province in the south, the heart of the Afghan poppy trade and the Taliban-led insurgency, the poll said.

The survey also said that blame is easing on the U.S. and donor nations.

Overall, 42 percent of Afghans blame the Taliban for the violence — up 27 percent from a year ago. Seventeen percent blame the U.S. and NATO, or the Afghan government or Afghan security forces — down 36 percent from a year ago.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100111/ap_on_.../as_afghan_poll

International members of my pacifist team were kidnapped and held hostage by a fanatical Islamist group in Iraq, 11/26/2005 to 3/23/2006. Tom Fox, an American Quaker, was killed. They were thankfully rescued by a multinational force led by British SAS. The survivors have forgiven them. We had unarmed peacemakers in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq before, during and long after the invasion.

Ahhh...one was a student studying in NZ? A guy with dark hair glasses?

I believe so. # Harmeet Singh Sooden, 33, a Canadian electrical engineer studying in New Zealand

In the past the US funded and trained the most radical Moslims to fight against the Russians and commit act's of terror.

You agree or not?

No, I don't.

These fighters where called freedom fighters by the US.

You agree or not?

By the US and others, yes.

The US supported those freedom fighters with weapons, training and money.

You agree ore not?

Yes.

So if I understand it correctly, you think it where not the most radical Moslims that they trained?

Or you feel they did not commit act's of terror?

Just asking.

:)

International members of my pacifist team were kidnapped and held hostage by a fanatical Islamist group in Iraq, 11/26/2005 to 3/23/2006. Tom Fox, an American Quaker, was killed. They were thankfully rescued by a multinational force led by British SAS. The survivors have forgiven them. We had unarmed peacemakers in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq before, during and long after the invasion.

Ahhh...one was a student studying in NZ? A guy with dark hair glasses?

I believe so. # Harmeet Singh Sooden, 33, a Canadian electrical engineer studying in New Zealand

That's the one, I couldn't remember the name.

So if I understand it correctly, you think it where not the most radical Moslims that they trained?

Or you feel they did not commit act's of terror?

Just asking.

:)

The whole question-answer thing is a two way street. Look back over my recent replies to you and answer my questions then I'll answer your new ones. OK?

Sorry Kohee, I scrolled through the last 150 comments or so but the only question I found there was if I expected a pro life group would make a docu in favor of pro choice. That seems obvious to me so I say no and therefore on and for the record I have answered your question. :D

For that video with decaying bodies allegedly claiming (me too) they were a result of WF, I already responded saying that I could not say with 100% certainty now that they were.

Interesting outcome from the Davids commission in my HC.

De tekst van de resolutie 1441 gaf geen vrijbrief aan landen om met geweld in te grijpen. Het Nederlandse kabinet legde die tekst wel zo uit, zo concludeert de commissie.

Freely translated it says: The text of resolution 1441 did not gave a free ticket to countries to intervene with violence. Before, the Dutch cabinet did explain that it was.

There are 49 conclusion from the investigation into the motives and stuff, so I will dig it up and see if I have the time to go through it and perhaps post it here. This deals with our participation in Iraq during that war but a similar investigation is going to be done for Afghanistan.

Luckily in my HC there is a sense of justice amongst the people on the street as there are a few good and independent program makers that try to do unbiased reporting/docu making and broadcast them (VPRO Tegenlicht) and as a result people are demanding answers and hopefully sooner or later we will get them. :)

Remember I told that my DOD had to withdraw their reason mentioned for going into Afghanistan, (to go after people that were involved in the 9/11 attacks), they had to change it into a peace building and reconstruction mission statement. Now this statement is also questioned as these soldiers are now and were actively engaged in combat operations there.

And Kohee and perhaps some others please just only look at part 6 of the rethink Afghanistan docu. It is just ten minutes of your life and it shows American soldiers, generals and American CIA peeps telling there is no Al Quiada in Afghanistan anymore and seriously asking why they are there.

Take care all.

Alex

:D

 

Remember I told that my DOD had to withdraw their reason mentioned for going into Afghanistan, (to go after people that were involved in the 9/11 attacks), they had to change it into a peace building and reconstruction mission statement. Now this statement is also questioned as these soldiers are now and were actively engaged in combat operations there.

And Kohee and perhaps some others please just only look at part 6 of the rethink Afghanistan docu. It is just ten minutes of your life and it shows American soldiers, generals and American CIA peeps telling there is no Al Quiada in Afghanistan anymore and seriously asking why they are there.

Lets be a little more accurate with our phrasing, please.

The US did not "have" to change its mission statement.  The mission statement merely evolved, which is a normal and planned progression. And yes, there are still combat ops as the Taliban (not Al Qaida) attacks all aspects of the current government and the coalition forces.  You can't build infrastructure if some people attack the workers and destroy what is being built.  And you can't hold elections without troops there to maintain order of the Taliban kills voters and blows up polling places (or threatens to do so, which also keeps people away from the polls.)

churchill pointed this out in another section of the forum......

Israel and US behind Tehran blast - Iranian state media

And you believe this, um...why?

Because it is credible.

French agents planted a bomb in NZ to sink a ship that was merely protesting nukes, and killed someone (cf Rainbow Warrior).

A bomb. In NZ. To sink a ship regardless of lives.

Mossad agents have been caught here again trying to obtain NZ passports using dead handicapped children's identities.

I think the Mossad Nazi hunters are a law unto themselves with no respect for life or foreign boundaries.

If foreign governments can do that in their allies country, then it is very credible that they could/would assasinate an Iranian physicist.

Every country in the world has spies and they all gather fake documents for travel, that does not translate into killing an Iranian physicist. :)

Every country in the world has spies and they all gather fake documents for travel, that does not translate into killing an Iranian physicist. :)

I didn't say it translates. I said it is credible. If the French can blow up bombs in Auckland and kill people for merely demonstrating, I would not be suprised if Mossad assasinates an Iranian nuclear scientist.

You seem to take the notion as incredible? I know you are not that naive.

ANYTHING is possible. Jello Biafra could have killed John Kennedy, but without evidence, it is not worth mentioning. :)

churchill pointed this out in another section of the forum......

Israel and US behind Tehran blast - Iranian state media

And you believe this, um...why?

Because it is credible.

French agents planted a bomb in NZ to sink a ship that was merely protesting nukes, and killed someone (cf Rainbow Warrior).

A bomb. In NZ. To sink a ship regardless of lives.

Mossad agents have been caught here again trying to obtain NZ passports using dead handicapped children's identities.

I think the Mossad Nazi hunters are a law unto themselves with no respect for life or foreign boundaries.

If foreign governments can do that in their allies country, then it is very credible that they could/would assasinate an Iranian physicist.

A possibility does not make it credible. It is possible that the Russians, the Chinese, the Yakuza, the Mafia, the Canadian Mounties, the Red Shirts, or the Keystone Cops did the deed, but not likely.  

And why would the Americans take out an outspoken critic of the current Iranian president?  Who really would be the most likely agency to take out someone like that? Occam's Razor.

Mossad agents have been caught here again trying to obtain NZ passports using dead handicapped children's identities.

I think the Mossad Nazi hunters are a law unto themselves with no respect for life or foreign boundaries.

Sorry, but this stinks to high heaven of bullshit. They didn't just use dead people's identities, it was dead children. And not just any dead children, but dead handicapped children! Well, when you have big noses and horns on your head, I guess that's what you have to resort to, eh? Gimme a break. :):D:D

Mossad agents have been caught here again trying to obtain NZ passports using dead handicapped children's identities.

I think the Mossad Nazi hunters are a law unto themselves with no respect for life or foreign boundaries.

Sorry, but this stinks to high heaven of bullshit. They didn't just use dead people's identities, it was dead children. And not just any dead children, but dead handicapped children! Well, when you have big noses and horns on your head, I guess that's what you have to resort to, eh? Gimme a break. :):D:D

Yes, but at least those minions of Satan did not use identities of dead, handicapped, orphaned children!

The evil Jews use the identities of dead, handicapped, orphaned, gentile children! :)

...with hair lips.

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Surely you people don't really believe anything coming out of the Iranian regime.

I would expect SAVAMA is as much responsible for the assassination as anybody.

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churchill pointed this out in another section of the forum......

Israel and US behind Tehran blast - Iranian state media

 And you believe this, um...why?

I said churhill pointed it out.

It is no secret that the media spin on Iran has gotten more & more intense in recent weeks.

Not surprisingly on the heels of them in Sept 09 rejecting the USD.

Also as it builds & you watch the replies from Iran to the threats by the US & Israel you have to wonder.

Again......who makes the rules? They make demands on Iran based on what may or may not be fact ...they even all agree Iran has no nukes but

they believe the may be developing one.

The insane man in North Korea has them why not chase him down & demand he turn it over?

India & Pakistan?

It is not hard to understand why a country may want a nuke. Seems they are left the fack alone if they do have one or more....

Does Israel still refuse to confirm if they themselves have nukes? I dont see anyone strong arming them?

But all that aside....who decides?

Why does this smack EXACTLY of the same run up to Iraq?

Notice suddenly all the air bomb hype in the US?

Yet since 2001 9-11 not a single pop in a bar or street here.....Now the exact same build up of media & security fear is starting again.... I may not believe everything I read but I have eyes,ears & a memory.

I say take a good look at Iran as it is about to change.....

Mossad agents have been caught here again trying to obtain NZ passports using dead handicapped children's identities.

I think the Mossad Nazi hunters are a law unto themselves with no respect for life or foreign boundaries.

Sorry, but this stinks to high heaven of bullshit. They didn't just use dead people's identities, it was dead children. And not just any dead children, but dead handicapped children! Well, when you have big noses and horns on your head, I guess that's what you have to resort to, eh? Gimme a break. :):D:D

Yes, but at least those minions of Satan did not use identities of dead, handicapped, orphaned children!

My apologies...he wasn't dead. I wan't trying to sensationalise it.....merely bad recall.

http://www.converge.org.nz/abc/pr32-123b.html

That's a very odd and sceptical view....just because it was a child and dead and handicapped makes it BS?

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And while Rome burns.............

AP Exclusive: Obama wants $33 billion more for war

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration plans to ask Congress for an additional $33 billion to fight unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, on top of a record request for $708 billion for the Defense Department next year, The Associated Press has learned.

Full article at link above....

They used the identities of dead people. Nothing else about them is really important.

churchill pointed this out in another section of the forum......

Israel and US behind Tehran blast - Iranian state media

And you believe this, um...why?

Because it is credible.

French agents planted a bomb in NZ to sink a ship that was merely protesting nukes, and killed someone (cf Rainbow Warrior).

A bomb. In NZ. To sink a ship regardless of lives.

Mossad agents have been caught here again trying to obtain NZ passports using dead handicapped children's identities.

I think the Mossad Nazi hunters are a law unto themselves with no respect for life or foreign boundaries.

If foreign governments can do that in their allies country, then it is very credible that they could/would assasinate an Iranian physicist.

A possibility does not make it credible. It is possible that the Russians, the Chinese, the Yakuza, the Mafia, the Canadian Mounties, the Red Shirts, or the Keystone Cops did the deed, but not likely.

And why would the Americans take out an outspoken critic of the current Iranian president? Who really would be the most likely agency to take out someone like that? Occam's Razor.

Hardly an "outspoken critic"!!! Who IS actually sensationalising things here?

In fact, "....State broadcaster IRIB described him as a "committed and revolutionary" professor, suggesting he backed the government of hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad......" ( http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/us-israel-bla...an-bomb-3328949 )

The questions is, why would Israel (or less likely America) take out an Iranian theoretical particle physics

specialist?

It's not a big leap to think of an answer.

Mossad agents have been caught here again trying to obtain NZ passports using dead handicapped children's identities.

I think the Mossad Nazi hunters are a law unto themselves with no respect for life or foreign boundaries.

Sorry, but this stinks to high heaven of bullshit. They didn't just use dead people's identities, it was dead children. And not just any dead children, but dead handicapped children! Well, when you have big noses and horns on your head, I guess that's what you have to resort to, eh? Gimme a break. :):D:D

Yes, but at least those minions of Satan did not use identities of dead, handicapped, orphaned children!

My apologies...he wasn't dead. I wan't trying to sensationalise it.....merely bad recall.

http://www.converge.org.nz/abc/pr32-123b.html

That's a very odd and sceptical view....just because it was a child and dead and handicapped makes it BS?

Yes. It smacks of sensationalism. I'm surprised they didn't say that Mossad killed the handicapped children first but I guess that would be implied since they are so <deleted>' evil and all. And of course they killed them by slowly drinking their blood. :D

Did they use the identities of dead children? I'm sure they did as that's how you do it. Someone is born, their name, place of birth, etc are in the system. Then they die very young (infants preferred) and they provide an almost blank foundation to build a false identity around. Too many complications can arise from trying to steal a dead adult's identity.

They used the identities of dead people. Nothing else about them is really important.

True....but according to your mate, because I reported it as a handicapped child (and dead), it made the entire story BS. Very sad fellow.

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