Again you are ignoring my question. Have you investigated which companies directly profit from those wars?

Do you agree that wars are made for profit?

Alex

No, all wars are not "made for profit". Somebody always does profit from them. People can profit from just about anything. People even profit from saving the world from Global Warming. Just ask Al Gore.

Hear, here!

Again you are ignoring my question. Have you investigated which companies directly profit from those wars?

Do you agree that wars are made for profit?

Alex

No, all wars are not "made for profit". Somebody always does profit from them. People can profit from just about anything. People even profit from saving the world from Global Warming. Just ask Al Gore.

Do you agree that some wars are made for profit or liberal imperialism? Which wars would that be in your opinion?

Again you are ignoring my question. Have you investigated which companies directly profit from those wars?

Do you agree that wars are made for profit?

Alex

No, all wars are not "made for profit". Somebody always does profit from them. People can profit from just about anything. People even profit from saving the world from Global Warming. Just ask Al Gore.

Do you agree that some wars are made for profit or liberal imperialism? Which wars would that be in your opinion?

Wars are started for almost every imaginable reason. I'm not interested in classifying them. I do hope that my side wins each and every one no matter who ends up making money off of it.

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Coca Cola and Wrigleys.

War profiteers.

It is clear that Kohee has been perfectly programmed to believe what he feels or thinks is right.

I just wonder what makes him believe he is right.

Some people might say exactly the same thing about you.

I think I have made my point in saying and showing that these wars are illegal and most of them are made for profit.

Some of you are clearly in denial of these facts, is it because you are involved in some way or you just don't want to know the truth?

Admitting that these wars are benefiting a few large corporations and geopolitical interest would undermine your beliefs (If you have any).

Was it not all about finding BL and bring him to justice to justify the invasion of Afghanistan?

Was he responsible for planning the 9/11 attacks? No, another guy admitted after being WB many times.

Again I ask you what other evidence is there.

Members of the 9/11 commission are saying that they where restricted in their investigation, why?

I just wonder how you pro war people can justify all of this including the dumping of nuclear waste on foreign soil.

Alex

You are not alone in understanding the facts, Alex.

Interestingly, a court in NZ yesterday aquitted 3 guys who sabotaged a spy station that feeds the US Echelon system. The guys admitted the damage they caused, but used the fact that information gleaned by the station was used to assist in the Afghan and Iraq invasions, thus they were acting for the greater good....and the court agreed. (it was a jury trial)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3468...three-walk-free

It says something when a court agrees that people trying to damage the US effort are justified.

Down with the Military Industrial Complex.

You are not alone in understanding the facts, Alex.

Interestingly, a court in NZ yesterday aquitted 3 guys who sabotaged a spy station that feeds the US Echelon system. The guys admitted the damage they caused, but used the fact that information gleaned by the station was used to assist in the Afghan and Iraq invasions, thus they were acting for the greater good....and the court agreed. (it was a jury trial)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3468...three-walk-free

It says something when a court agrees that people trying to damage the US effort are justified.

Itr says a lot all right but none of it flattering to the court or the jury. Maybe they used the same jurors that let OJ walk free?

You are not alone in understanding the facts, Alex.

Interestingly, a court in NZ yesterday aquitted 3 guys who sabotaged a spy station that feeds the US Echelon system. The guys admitted the damage they caused, but used the fact that information gleaned by the station was used to assist in the Afghan and Iraq invasions, thus they were acting for the greater good....and the court agreed. (it was a jury trial)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3468...three-walk-free

It says something when a court agrees that people trying to damage the US effort are justified.

Itr says a lot all right but none of it flattering to the court or the jury. Maybe they used the same jurors that let OJ walk free?

It is kudos to the jurors and the court when they recognise the simple truth, uncluttered by propaganda or profit-making agendas.

Some people might say exactly the same thing about you.

You beat me to it. Although I don't wonder why someone who takes whatever Italian Communists say to be true might believe other crazy things. It just fits the pattern.

Itr says a lot all right but none of it flattering to the court or the jury. Maybe they used the same jurors that let OJ walk free?

Exactly. The delusions of a few liberal nutters proves less than nothing.

Edited through missing the point.......again.

Itr says a lot all right but none of it flattering to the court or the jury. Maybe they used the same jurors that let OJ walk free?

Exactly. The delusions of a few liberal nutters proves less than nothing.

Some would say that the so called "deluded" lefties don't have blood on their hands. Others would say that the delusions of the right wing gullible has resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent people.

It is a common phenomenon that the insane think they are the only ones not insane and that everyone who doesn't hold their view is a nutter.

You are not alone in understanding the facts, Alex.

Interestingly, a court in NZ yesterday aquitted 3 guys who sabotaged a spy station that feeds the US Echelon system. The guys admitted the damage they caused, but used the fact that information gleaned by the station was used to assist in the Afghan and Iraq invasions, thus they were acting for the greater good....and the court agreed. (it was a jury trial)

It says something when a court agrees that people trying to damage the US effort are justified.

Itr says a lot all right but none of it flattering to the court or the jury. Maybe they used the same jurors that let OJ walk free?

Troops from New Zealand participated in both Vietnam and Afghanistan. These creeps were not only criminals, but also traitors to their own country. The misguided jury that aquitted them were not much better.

You are not alone in understanding the facts, Alex.

Interestingly, a court in NZ yesterday aquitted 3 guys who sabotaged a spy station that feeds the US Echelon system. The guys admitted the damage they caused, but used the fact that information gleaned by the station was used to assist in the Afghan and Iraq invasions, thus they were acting for the greater good....and the court agreed. (it was a jury trial)

It says something when a court agrees that people trying to damage the US effort are justified.

Itr says a lot all right but none of it flattering to the court or the jury. Maybe they used the same jurors that let OJ walk free?

Troops from New Zealand participated in both Vietnam and Afghanistan. These creeps were not only criminals, but also traitors to their own country. The misguided jury that aquitted them were not much better.

I don't see your logic in connecting Kiwi troops helping America in it's illigitimate actions, to kiwi civilians reacting to those American actions and thereby branding them criminals and traitors.

Plainly they are not criminals nor traitors because a court of law has aquitted them. Plainly, the kiwis assisting the yanks are the criminals.....(unless they were unfairly induced/pressured by the US to assist.....which is in fact the case).

Logic.

To say that the jury of the accused's peers are misguided says alot about your minority view.

You are not alone in understanding the facts, Alex.

Interestingly, a court in NZ yesterday aquitted 3 guys who sabotaged a spy station that feeds the US Echelon system. The guys admitted the damage they caused, but used the fact that information gleaned by the station was used to assist in the Afghan and Iraq invasions, thus they were acting for the greater good....and the court agreed. (it was a jury trial)

It says something when a court agrees that people trying to damage the US effort are justified.

Itr says a lot all right but none of it flattering to the court or the jury. Maybe they used the same jurors that let OJ walk free?

Troops from New Zealand participated in both Vietnam and Afghanistan. These creeps were not only criminals, but also traitors to their own country. The misguided jury that aquitted them were not much better.

I don't see your logic in connecting Kiwi troops helping America in it's illigitimate actions, to kiwi civilians reacting to those American actions and thereby branding them criminals and traitors.

Plainly they are not criminals nor traitors because a court of law has aquitted them. Plainly, the kiwis assisting the yanks are the criminals.....(unless they were unfairly induced/pressured by the US to assist.....which is in fact the case).

Logic.

To say that the jury of the accused's peers are misguided says alot about your minority view.

I must agree with Harcourt's logic.

The thing that bugs me is it was wilfully destroying some one else's property, they should have been convicted on that at least.

Not on.

There was a published comment by a legal eagle that, that defence would most likely not work again.

Lets hope that is the case.

You are not alone in understanding the facts, Alex.

Interestingly, a court in NZ yesterday aquitted 3 guys who sabotaged a spy station that feeds the US Echelon system. The guys admitted the damage they caused, but used the fact that information gleaned by the station was used to assist in the Afghan and Iraq invasions, thus they were acting for the greater good....and the court agreed. (it was a jury trial)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3468...three-walk-free

It says something when a court agrees that people trying to damage the US effort are justified.

Itr says a lot all right but none of it flattering to the court or the jury. Maybe they used the same jurors that let OJ walk free?

It is kudos to the jurors and the court when they recognise the simple truth, uncluttered by propaganda or profit-making agendas.

Cherry or grape flavoured?

So the defense of these sabateurs was that the information was used in the Iraq & Afghanistan wars? If there are any Kiwis serving over there then these misguided souls are putting their lives in danger and that could be considered treason. In addition, it is doubtful that 100% of all the intel to come into that station was related only to Iraq & Afghanistan. What other worthwhile operations have been damaged by these criminals? How many innocent lives are now endangered? Too bad "thinking things through" can't be added to the leftist arsenal of whining & whinging.

Criminals and traitors.

Some people might say exactly the same thing about you.

You beat me to it. Although I don't wonder why someone who takes whatever Italian Communists say to be true might believe other crazy things. It just fits the pattern.

I believe your memory has failed you again as I already said/admitted many pages back the YT clip which said to show the results of WP munition is questionable where I first thought it showed some very strange markings and decomposition (very different from what I have witnessed in the Balkan).

So would you say that DU munitions are not used or have been used in Afghanistan and Iraq? Is it one of those crazy things I might believe?

A while back it was reported that the military executed/killed a bunch of students, it has now been reported it was a mistake. Do you believe calling the killing/execution of innocent people a mistake is justifiable?

Have a look at the pictures, and try to convince me that shooting handcuffed (alleged) people in the head was a result of wrong judgment or an accident or something.

Sure you will say that in war mistakes are made, I can understand bombing the wrong target or failing missiles, but shooting people in the head without questioning?

Rather good video I stumbled upon today

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...videoid=1510997

Sure you will say that in war mistakes are made

Your complaints are very selective. How about terrorists that cut off innocent civilian's heads. That does not seem to bother you.

You still do not answer my questions.

How about smart bombs that intend to kill terrorist but instead kill innocent civilians?

That not bother you?

Criminals and traitors.

I'll play your game.

And George Bush is an idiot and US troops in Iraq are murderers and rapists.

And my dady is a policeman and he'll beat your daddy.

Nya nya nya nya.

How about terrorists that purposely target innocent civilians? - men, women and children. The self-rightous, American hating hypocrites never bother to moan about that.

Have you noticed how small your audience is? If you're intent on carrying on this pointless circular conversation could you possibly do it by PM and allow OTB to revert to being a forum where people can disagree without feeling the need to insult each other?

Have you noticed how small your audience is? If you're intent on carrying on this pointless circular conversation could you possibly do it by PM and allow OTB to revert to being a forum where people can disagree without feeling the need to insult each other?

Actually, that was what I was implying. I deleted the direct and deserved personal comment I originally started to make......By your pictures, it seems you got it although he didn't. Nevermind. He never will; another sign of immaturity and possibly mental deficiency.