Just when I think nothing that happens here can surprise me...

The Redshirt 'blood drive' was one of the most abhorrent, disgusting travesties I have ever witnessed. Whatever sympathies (and they were admittedly few) I may have had for them are dissolved by this sickening demonstration of mindless hate. Shame, shame, shame!

Wow.

Can you PLEASE look around you and realize you're in Thailand (you are, right?). It was a symbolic black-magic ceremony. These are very common in most parts of the country. A lot of this is just below the surface, but to be honest it's hard to live in Thailand and not eventually notice the importance and omnipresence of animist based rituals.

You may at best call that silly, but then any expression of religion or spirituality can be called that.

Consider for example that Abhisit, as most other people of his background, routinely offer pig heads to the spirits at least once a year. You might call that silly too, or you might embrace the notion that we live in a spiritual country with many interesting ceremonies and cultural and relgious expressions.

Sheesh. Talk about "mindless hate"

Your an inspiration WTK. Perhaps the other side can go to the nearest CP rendering plant and get 1 million pig heads to to deposit at the Red leaders houses.

Wow.

Can you PLEASE look around you and realize you're in Thailand (you are, right?). It was a symbolic black-magic ceremony. These are very common in most parts of the country. A lot of this is just below the surface, but to be honest it's hard to live in Thailand and not eventually notice the importance and omnipresence of animist based rituals.

You may at best call that silly, but then any expression of religion or spirituality can be called that.

Consider for example that Abhisit, as most other people of his background, routinely offer pig heads to the spirits at least once a year. You might call that silly too, or you might embrace the notion that we live in a spiritual country with many interesting ceremonies and cultural and relgious expressions.

Sheesh. Talk about "mindless hate"

Bet Thaksin's new best mate Hun Sen does though.

You forgot to mention his other great mates, Hitler, Stalin and Satan himself.

Incredible deep and insightfull as ever. A real addition to the world of internet discussions.

Bet Thaksin's new best mate Hun Sen does though.

You forgot to mention his other great mates, Hitler, Stalin and Satan himself.

Incredible deep and insightfull as ever. A real addition to the world of internet discussions.

Err excuse me, are you denying that Thaksin has a cosy relationship with Hun Sen?

Please leave discussion of moderation out of this topic.

Thanks.

Wow.

Can you PLEASE look around you and realize you're in Thailand (you are, right?). It was a symbolic black-magic ceremony. These are very common in most parts of the country.

Really?

Blood-letting and spewing it on the ground is "very common" in Thailand? Have you ever witnessed this very common ceremony? Has anyone on this board ever witnessed this?

If you mean to say that animist ceremonies, OTHER than this blood-letting and spewing it on the ground, are common, I don't think you'd find much disagreement, but to attempt to excuse this bizarre episode off as some sort of "very common" activity is dishonest and inaccurate.

Wow.

Can you PLEASE look around you and realize you're in Thailand (you are, right?). It was a symbolic black-magic ceremony. These are very common in most parts of the country.

Really?

Blood-letting and spewing it on the ground is "very common" in Thailand? Have you ever witnessed this very common ceremony? Has anyone on this board ever witnessed this?

If you mean to say that animist ceremonies, OTHER than this blood-letting and spewing it on the ground, are common, I don't think you'd find much disagreement, but to attempt to excuse this bizarre episode off as some sort of "very common" activity is dishonest and inaccurate.

Dishonest and inaccurate - yup thats about right.

Wow.

Can you PLEASE look around you and realize you're in Thailand (you are, right?). It was a symbolic black-magic ceremony. These are very common in most parts of the country.

Really?

Blood-letting and spewing it on the ground is "very common" in Thailand? Have you ever witnessed this very common ceremony? Has anyone on this board ever witnessed this?

If you mean to say that animist ceremonies, OTHER than this blood-letting and spewing it on the ground, are common, I don't think you'd find much disagreement, but to attempt to excuse this bizarre episode off as some sort of "very common" activity is dishonest and inaccurate.

Dishonest and inaccurate - yup thats about right.

Consistent though

Bet Thaksin's new best mate Hun Sen does though.

You forgot to mention his other great mates, Hitler, Stalin and Satan himself.

Incredible deep and insightfull as ever. A real addition to the world of internet discussions.

Just another one of these internet groaners who have actually nothing of interest to contribute themselves so they complain about others. Probably only ever been to thailand via youtube

Bloodletting is pretty common, well animal blood that is. Anyways not a big deal at the end of the day - just black magic mumbo jumbo. It got the news media to become interested in Thailand all over the world, so I think it was pretty savvy move.

Bloodletting is pretty common, well animal blood that is. Anyways not a big deal at the end of the day - just black magic mumbo jumbo. It got the news media to become interested in Thailand all over the world, so I think it was pretty savvy move.

Brit, respectively stick to predicting the footy results mate which you are good at if you think images of bloodletting put a positive spin on the country's image.

Bloodletting is pretty common, well animal blood that is. Anyways not a big deal at the end of the day - just black magic mumbo jumbo. It got the news media to become interested in Thailand all over the world, so I think it was pretty savvy move.

Yeah Brit, I've been chatting with a number of people today from overseas and they were most impressed with the Red Shirts - although I don't think I can really write what those people said about it on here.

Notice zero protection while blood pours on this poor vandal's hands. No worry he's covered by the 30-baht healthcare system.

Bloodletting is pretty common, well animal blood that is. Anyways not a big deal at the end of the day - just black magic mumbo jumbo. It got the news media to become interested in Thailand all over the world, so I think it was pretty savvy move.

Yeah Brit, I've been chatting with a number of people today from overseas and they were most impressed with the Red Shirts - although I don't think I can really write what those people said about it on here.

The people I've chatted to about the blood stuff just laffed.

Bloodletting is pretty common, well animal blood that is. Anyways not a big deal at the end of the day - just black magic mumbo jumbo. It got the news media to become interested in Thailand all over the world, so I think it was pretty savvy move.

Yeah Brit, I've been chatting with a number of people today from overseas and they were most impressed with the Red Shirts - although I don't think I can really write what those people said about it on here.

The people I've chatted to about the blood stuff just laffed.

Ah, the company you keep...

'The people I've chatted to about the blood stuff just laffed.

Ah, the company you keep...

Come now, it's not his fault that they won't let him out of the asylum.

:D

Just when I think nothing that happens here can surprise me...

The Redshirt 'blood drive' was one of the most abhorrent, disgusting travesties I have ever witnessed. Whatever sympathies (and they were admittedly few) I may have had for them are dissolved by this sickening demonstration of mindless hate. Shame, shame, shame!

Wow.

Can you PLEASE look around you and realize you're in Thailand (you are, right?). It was a symbolic black-magic ceremony. These are very common in most parts of the country. A lot of this is just below the surface, but to be honest it's hard to live in Thailand and not eventually notice the importance and omnipresence of animist based rituals.

You may at best call that silly, but then any expression of religion or spirituality can be called that.

Consider for example that Abhisit, as most other people of his background, routinely offer pig heads to the spirits at least once a year. You might call that silly too, or you might embrace the notion that we live in a spiritual country with many interesting ceremonies and cultural and relgious expressions.

Sheesh. Talk about "mindless hate"

Stop attacking the Chinese offering of pig heads; it is their way of life. Just like the Jew slaughter lamb in the bible; it is their way of life.

Bloodletting is pretty common, well animal blood that is. Anyways not a big deal at the end of the day - just black magic mumbo jumbo. It got the news media to become interested in Thailand all over the world, so I think it was pretty savvy move.

Yeah Brit, I've been chatting with a number of people today from overseas and they were most impressed with the Red Shirts - although I don't think I can really write what those people said about it on here.

The people I've chatted to about the blood stuff just laffed.

They were laughing at you Britmaveric....it happens quite often

^not all just asked if Ms. Brit donated any blood? Basically thought the whole event was amusing and strange. I had to explain the whole black magic rubbish to them. Any rate such as life - I certainly not going to get my knickers in a twist like most people on Thai Visa over a bit of blood.

^ In some places in the world there are blood shortages at times and people can bleed to death because of that......here we have idiots pouring it over commonwealth property, sorry its pathetic.

^Well if I was the reds I would for every pint poured, donate a pint for the red cross. Looked better PR wise, I must admit.

Blumenkraft

relax! This is a very good forum, packed with excellent information. There are some excellent people as well, but as in any site with a membership in the hundreds of thousands you will find people that are polar opposites to you in terms of their thinking. The comments on this thread are a little emotional, however it is a very emotional subject, and one which disgusts many many people. Thats all, don't read anything in to it more than that.

Welcome to Thai Visa

Thanks for that - reckon I'll stick around and check out the rest of the forum.

Keep attacking the mods where no ill intent was intended and Im betting you won't be sticking around for long at all

Yawn

^Well if I was the reds I would for every pint poured, donate a pint for the red cross. Looked better PR wise, I must admit.

I knew I'd bash some sense into you eventually, but youve stopped short of admitting that this is a disgraceful act.

^well its their blood, so technically they can do what they want with it.

^ In some places in the world there are blood shortages at times and people can bleed to death because of that......here we have idiots pouring it over commonwealth property, sorry its pathetic.

Commonwealth? Did the British Empire strike back?

I was shocked and scared about that blood drive too to begin with, but when you think about it that's probably the most shocking thing you can do in Thailand without breaking any laws (except perhaps about littering), and it sure beats hijacking fuel trucks and stuff like that. I was pleasantly surprised to find out the Reds actually had planned it in advance and had the proper nurses and equipment on hand to carry this out without risk of infection.

It's still gross though. They sure achieved their goals of attracting press attention and it was not that negative: "Bloody but not violent".

Just when I think nothing that happens here can surprise me...

The Redshirt 'blood drive' was one of the most abhorrent, disgusting travesties I have ever witnessed. Whatever sympathies (and they were admittedly few) I may have had for them are dissolved by this sickening demonstration of mindless hate. Shame, shame, shame!

Wow.

Can you PLEASE look around you and realize you're in Thailand (you are, right?). It was a symbolic black-magic ceremony. These are very common in most parts of the country. A lot of this is just below the surface, but to be honest it's hard to live in Thailand and not eventually notice the importance and omnipresence of animist based rituals.

You may at best call that silly, but then any expression of religion or spirituality can be called that.

Consider for example that Abhisit, as most other people of his background, routinely offer pig heads to the spirits at least once a year. You might call that silly too, or you might embrace the notion that we live in a spiritual country with many interesting ceremonies and cultural and relgious expressions.

Sheesh. Talk about "mindless hate"

Excuse me, but if you are going to quote me at least get it right- never once did I use the word "silly", that's YOUR word and I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth, I have enough already.

I did use the words "abhorrent", "disgusting" and "sickening" and I stand by them. If you want to condone such acts with the excuse that they are an "expression of religion or spirituality" you certainly can, but I still find it shameful, as I find all awful things done in the name of religion. Worldwide the destructive power religion can wield is plain to see, yet it always attracts apologists and believers.

I find it disturbing that you can "embrace the notion" that the act of asking people to donate blood (which is in short supply in so many places experiencing real emergencies across the planet) in order to pour it over someone's doorstep in a "symbolic black-magic ceremony" was just one of the "many interesting ceremonies and cultural and relgious expressions" to be found in this country, apparently you are one of those sad blokes here under the delusion that Thailand (my home for eight years) is some kind of magic wonderland where everybody smiles and loves you and can do no wrong-

-Sheesh! talk about "silly"!

As for the "Mindless hate" you mention those are again YOUR words and they don't belong in my mouth, which is always clean and saintly.

Any "mindless hate" happening here is in the minds of the redshirts and those that support them... What should they do next, burn a witch?

Any "mindless hate" happening here is in the minds of the redshirts and those that support them... What should they do next, burn a witch?

I believe Seh Daeng called for Jatuporn to be burned, so maybe that's what they'll do next. Their justification would be it's some new obscure rite we haven't heard of yet (but we have to respect because, heh, it's all about freedom of religion and that's what every democracy has right?). Heck, it may even change their dwindling fortunes