I just saw the movie "The Fourth Kind" tonight. So, has anyone here had any alien encounters of the 1st (see it), 2nd (have proof), 3rd (contact), or....4th kind (abduction)? OK, no one will admit it happened to them. What about to someone they know?

How was the anal probe?

Dictionary definition

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1.

a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization ( distinguished from citizen).

2.

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a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial.

1: yes, meet them all the time, have proof of it and contact

2: yes, every day, same as above

3: yes probably meet them every day as well, probably no proof and prefer no contact

4: no

Typical Abduction Sequence

1. Capture. The abductee is forcibly taken from terrestrial surroundings to an apparent alien space craft.

2. Examination. Invasive medical or scientific procedures are performed on the abductee.

3. Conference. The abductors speak to the abductee.

4. Tour. The abductees are given a tour of their captors' vessel.

5. Loss of Time. Abductees rapidly forget the majority of their experience.

6. Return. The abductees are returned to earth. Occasionally in a different location from where they

were allegedly taken or with new injuries or disheveled clothing.

7. Theophany. The abductee has a profound mystical experience, accompanied by a feeling of oneness with God or the universe.

8. Aftermath. The abductee must cope with the psychological, physical, and social effects of the experience

If these things exist, maybe they aren't from outer space. Maybe they are from our distant future when time travel has been mastered?

For the record, I believe in UFOs. I see a lot of things in the sky that I can't identify. That doesn't mean it's a spaceship. Just means I can't tell if it's a shooting star, plane or whatever. I don't know about the rest of the world but in the USA, most UFO sightings seem to take place close to Air Force bases. Go figure.

The size of the universe combined with the law of probability makes it almost impossible for there NOT to be UFO's etc.

The question is not are they there, but where they are, and have they developed the capability to visit Earth yet?

It is quite arrogant of mankind, whom has (relatively) only just managed to leave his own planet, to think that an Alien being would consider the Earth as a point of interest. There must be endless other opportunities out there, our single Sun and Moon are probably not a big tourism draw to the inhabitants of planet Xyz167y89679. (Would you rather visit the Similian Islands or the Shetland Islands?)

Having said that, some of the people that I have met make me wonder if they have landed already.

I would not be surprised if there were other worlds with living beings. I just can't see them being capable of travel to planet Earth and then sneaking around abducting humans for anal sex with strange objects.

Of course, it is possible that they have been watching Japanese porn films from their spaceships in outer space and wanted to try it out.

If I remember well I think history channel will launch a docu on advanced beings visiting Earth in ancient times. Some old Indian writings describe flying vehicles and such thousands of years ago. There is a story of this Japanese pilot that witnessed some very strange object which was caught on ground and airplane radar and remains unexplained.

The question if people have been anally probed is without a doubt yes, but the question remains if all or part of the perpetrators are aliens (as in visitors from other planets).

I have been abducted (sort of) by those very friendly UK immigration officers and threatened to undergo an anal probe based on the reason I came from Holland and I did not have enough money with me (500 pounds) for a weekend stay in a part of their once great empire.

Anyway how was the movie?

It happens to our group all the time on our fish outings, and more often when we have been drinking around the camp fire. Some folks say I never came back the same.

I would not be surprised if there were other worlds with living beings. I just can't see them being capable of travel to planet Earth and then sneaking around abducting humans for anal sex with strange objects.

Of course, it is possible that they have been watching Japanese porn films from their spaceships in outer space and wanted to try it out.

LMAO, UG.

I sincerely doubt there isn't life outside our planet and I seriously doubt they'd waste their time with us.

Some points have benn well made that suggest it is highly unlikely we have been visited by sentient creatures from beyond our own planet. We know it is highly unlikely that such creatures exist within 1000s of light years from our planet. Would such creatures - even if capable of near light speed travel - spend thousands of years to travel to our speck in the galaxy only to buzz around in secrecy or capture specimens for a bit of alimentary surgery? Piffle. Could they do the infamous folding space trick to get here in next to no time? One problem - the simple laws of physics. (Don't think that morons with prepostorous ideas of defying physics are excluded from membership of the scientific community).

Of course, then there is the notion of time travel. Well, if such a ludicrous suggestion of being able, for example, to go back in time to predate your birth rings your bells, then consider the question of why there has never, at any point in history, been a credible report of interaction with someone from another time period. Think about it. For an infinite period beyond a certain point in time, some civilisation somewhere invents time travel. Therefore, there would be an indeterminate number of such creatures (whether man or extraterrestrial) that have visited/will visit us in the past. Again, piffle.

If you consider all of these outlandish suggestions in the cold light of reality and then extrapolate the implications from these theories, they simply cannot hold up. But as we know from other threads, some people just want to believe and genuinely appear to believe in their own eccentric postulations.

Bah, humbug.

How was the anal probe?

It actually went quite well today with my annual anal exam. prostate wasn't as bad as I expected and everything else is functioning. Of course I already knew that. Now I'm waiting for the lab reports on blood, urine and feces.

Some points have benn well made that suggest it is highly unlikely we have been visited by sentient creatures from beyond our own planet. We know it is highly unlikely that such creatures exist within 1000s of light years from our planet. Would such creatures - even if capable of near light speed travel - spend thousands of years to travel to our speck in the galaxy only to buzz around in secrecy or capture specimens for a bit of alimentary surgery? Piffle. Could they do the infamous folding space trick to get here in next to no time? One problem - the simple laws of physics. (Don't think that morons with prepostorous ideas of defying physics are excluded from membership of the scientific community).

Of course, then there is the notion of time travel. Well, if such a ludicrous suggestion of being able, for example, to go back in time to predate your birth rings your bells, then consider the question of why there has never, at any point in history, been a credible report of interaction with someone from another time period. Think about it. For an infinite period beyond a certain point in time, some civilisation somewhere invents time travel. Therefore, there would be an indeterminate number of such creatures (whether man or extraterrestrial) that have visited/will visit us in the past. Again, piffle.

If you consider all of these outlandish suggestions in the cold light of reality and then extrapolate the implications from these theories, they simply cannot hold up. But as we know from other threads, some people just want to believe and genuinely appear to believe in their own eccentric postulations.

Bah, humbug.

Outlandish? Just over 500 years ago the idea of the Earth being round was conisdered outlandish. Many of the things we have today would have been considered outlandish 200 years ago.

Anyway how was the movie?

It reminded me of the cheesy 70's movies about Bigfoot and the Bermuda Triangle.

Speaking of the Bermuda Triangle, haven't heard much about anything disappearing there for decades. I guess that alien spaceship left for home.

Outlandish? Just over 500 years ago the idea of the Earth being round was conisdered outlandish.

That is actually a myth, astrologers have known for thousands of years that the world is round.

Outlandish? Just over 500 years ago the idea of the Earth being round was conisdered outlandish.

That is actually a myth, astrologers have known for thousands of years that the world is round.

the Catholic Church disagreed and Galileo Galilei was lucky not to be burned for the heresy he lectured but recanted under threat.

Some points have benn well made that suggest it is highly unlikely we have been visited by sentient creatures from beyond our own planet. We know it is highly unlikely that such creatures exist within 1000s of light years from our planet. Would such creatures - even if capable of near light speed travel - spend thousands of years to travel to our speck in the galaxy only to buzz around in secrecy or capture specimens for a bit of alimentary surgery? Piffle. Could they do the infamous folding space trick to get here in next to no time? One problem - the simple laws of physics. (Don't think that morons with prepostorous ideas of defying physics are excluded from membership of the scientific community).

Of course, then there is the notion of time travel. Well, if such a ludicrous suggestion of being able, for example, to go back in time to predate your birth rings your bells, then consider the question of why there has never, at any point in history, been a credible report of interaction with someone from another time period. Think about it. For an infinite period beyond a certain point in time, some civilisation somewhere invents time travel. Therefore, there would be an indeterminate number of such creatures (whether man or extraterrestrial) that have visited/will visit us in the past. Again, piffle.

If you consider all of these outlandish suggestions in the cold light of reality and then extrapolate the implications from these theories, they simply cannot hold up. But as we know from other threads, some people just want to believe and genuinely appear to believe in their own eccentric postulations.

Bah, humbug.

Outlandish? Just over 500 years ago the idea of the Earth being round was conisdered outlandish. Many of the things we have today would have been considered outlandish 200 years ago.

I agree.

There are a few points to Ping's post that do not consider all the facts or ideas, number one being that the laws of physics are not "laws" at all.....quantum physics has shown that there are anomolies to what we thought we knew and that there is not yet any unified theory....the particle accelerator may go a long way towards finding that.

How do we know there is no intelligence within "1000's" of light years? We even don't have information about any planets 100 light years away, except 100 year old information. Do we assume that an alien civilisation evolved and learnt science at the same (slow) rate as us?

If there were aliens, I would not try to second guess them....if they want to probe your anus, I'm sure they would have their reasons.

The idea that there has never been a credible report of a time traveller could have a few reasons: 1. That the reporter (or the traveller) was consigned to Bedlam, 2. That the traveller, having come from an intelligent civilisation has obeyed his own laws on interacting with primitive/new species.....we humans have developed our own version of those protocols, 3. The traveler is not humanoid and was thus not recognised.

Furthermore, the theory behind the hadron collider, if proved, may indeed show us how to bend space.

We shouldn't make assumptions.

Outlandish? Just over 500 years ago the idea of the Earth being round was conisdered outlandish.

That is actually a myth, astrologers have known for thousands of years that the world is round.

the Catholic Church disagreed and Galileo Galilei was lucky not to be burned for the heresy he lectured but recanted under threat.

The Catholic Church has said many things that are not true or in the interests of humanity as a whole

Ping, what proof would be needed to convince you (or anyone else here), or at least make you think of the possibility of time travel/foreseeing future events?

Einstein has already 'proved' the possibility of seeing into the past, it just takes a very very powerful laser.

However, he also theorised that time travel was impossible partly because the maximum possible speed is the speed of light. Collisions in high speed coliders, however, show that particles can travel at speeds much greater than the speed of light.

We are not close to even touching the tip of the scientific iceberg yet.

Einstein has already 'proved' the possibility of seeing into the past, it just takes a very very powerful laser.

However, he also theorised that time travel was impossible partly because the maximum possible speed is the speed of light. Collisions in high speed coliders, however, show that particles can travel at speeds much greater than the speed of light.

We are not close to even touching the tip of the scientific iceberg yet.

There is a suspicion that Einstein may be proved wrong. Even before the hadron collider was concieved, Hawkings postulated that there may be parallel universes. Particles can exist in 2 points in space simmultaneously.

Even before the hadron collider was concieved, Hawkings postulated that there may be parallel universes.

He stole that idea from Stan Lee.

I couldn't get some of the images from that movie out of my head after seeing it. Aliens are probably my most feared thing lol. For a while I would wake up at some point during the night and feel too scared to look towards the bottom of my bed expecting to see a tall shadowy figure kept the blinds open so my room wasn't so dark.

I was a bit annoyed though after I found out none of it really happened. hmm.

If these things exist, maybe they aren't from outer space. Maybe they are from our distant future when time travel has been mastered?

For the record, I believe in UFOs. I see a lot of things in the sky that I can't identify. That doesn't mean it's a spaceship. Just means I can't tell if it's a shooting star, plane or whatever. I don't know about the rest of the world but in the USA, most UFO sightings seem to take place close to Air Force bases. Go figure.

also boulder co. where there is a university and alot of dope being smoked

If these things exist, maybe they aren't from outer space. Maybe they are from our distant future when time travel has been mastered?

For the record, I believe in UFOs. I see a lot of things in the sky that I can't identify. That doesn't mean it's a spaceship. Just means I can't tell if it's a shooting star, plane or whatever. I don't know about the rest of the world but in the USA, most UFO sightings seem to take place close to Air Force bases. Go figure.

also boulder co. where there is a university and alot of dope being smoked

Mork and Mindy lived in Boulder, Colorado.....a coincidence???????

Nanoo nanoo.

How was the anal probe?

It actually went quite well today with my annual anal exam. prostate wasn't as bad as I expected and everything else is functioning. Of course I already knew that. Now I'm waiting for the lab reports on blood, urine and feces.

What, no photo?

DO NOT ENCOURAGE HIM (& yes I am shouting)

DO NOT ENCOURAGE HIM (& yes I am shouting)

I don't know WHY the doctor wouldn't use my camera?

We are already aliens from another planet.

Our body is a symbiotic arrangement of cells, many of which lived as independant entities before coming together in one form, a human machine.

ignore the fact that each of us has atoms of Ghandi, Hitler, Jesus etc in our bodies RIGHT NOW! (probably)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endosymbiotic_theory

According to Margulis and Sagan,[7] "Life did not take over the globe by combat, but by networking" (i.e., by cooperation)[8].

It is also believed that these endosymbionts transferred some of their own DNA to the host cell's nucleus during the evolutionary transition from a symbiotic community to an instituted eukaryotic cell. This hypothesis is thought to be possible because it is known today from scientific observation that transfer of DNA occurs between prokaryotic species, even if they are not closely related. Prokaryotes can take up DNA from their surroundings and have a limited ability to incorporate it into their own genome.

Where did the primordial elements come from? The big bang sure... maybe lightning caused the soup to form amino acid chains, etc.. but still... the elements came from OUTER SPACE!

What i'm trying to say is that life is a mix of organisms that have joined togther in mutual cooperation... to create a more efficient living thing. Your cells are made up of wht used to be whole organisms... but instead they merged with the 'borg' to form you and me!

That's a little bit hard to swallow...and I think a dramatic exageration to say an atom in me was probably once in Ghandi and Hitler.....consider the number of atoms in me vs the number of atoms in the world.....a few of Jesus's atoms have a greater chance of being in me, in that they have had a greater time to disperse around the globe.....but still unlikely I would guess.

Nonetheless, it would be true to say that all my atoms originated somewhere out there.

The endosymbiotic theory does bring to mind the "cell memory" idea (as some organ donor recipients have attested to) and past life memories that some people claim.