webfact Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dutch National Pays Huge Ransom In Pattaya Kidnapping A Dutch national reported to the Pattaya police on Friday after allegedly being kidnapped and held for a 90,000 Euro ransom by a former friend from Poland. Pattaya, the 16th of April 2010 [PDN]: At approximately 3:30am on Friday, police lieutenant Colonel Phatsa Detphakkul (Pattaya Police Investigator) received notification from a Dutch national, Mr. William Peter Alexander [41], regarding his alleged kidnapping by a former friend and Polish citizen. Mr. Alexander reported to police explaining that he had been kidnapped and held for ransom by Mr. Robert Stirring [36] from Poland along with two other unknown foreign men. Allegedly whilst eating at the Royal Garden Plaza McDonalds on Pattaya Beach Road, Mr. Alexander was approached by Mr. Stirring who was offering to repay some money that he owed. Following Mr. Stirring to his car, parked in front of the Welcome Plaza on Pattaya 2nd Road, Mr. Alexander was accosted and bundled into the car by two armed foreign men before being blindfolded, gagged and driven to an unknown location. Story continues: pattayadailynews.com -- 2010-04-17 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 so how did he get free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Quite glad they caught the culprits. I hope he gets his money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 so how did he get free? Arriving at the location, Mr. Stirring demanded Mr. Alexander pay the three men a total of 90,000 Euro or be killed. Mr. Alexander informed police that he was allowed to contact relatives in Holland who had subsequently transferred the requested amount of money to an unidentified bank account in the Netherlands. The three men, fortunately for Mr. Alexander, released him at which point he immediately went to police. The details are in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro1 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 (edited) so how did he get free? they let him go. he is very lucky they didnt kill him to avoid detection. What were they thinking? trying to get away with this, not even an attempt to fllee. could be more to it, maybe he owed them? who knows, seedy characters out there Edited April 17, 2010 by zorro1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Such natty dressers, must be the new quality tourists we keep hearing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loser1 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Quite glad they caught the culprits. I hope he gets his money back. Dam!!! I was going to say that!! Why do u have to come out with all the really insightfull posts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangBuddha Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Such natty dressers, must be the new quality tourists we keep hearing about. Most likely a case of one set of thugs stealing from another. I say give'em each a gun and let them settle it at 12 paces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Such natty dressers, must be the new quality tourists we keep hearing about. Most likely a case of one set of thugs stealing from another. I say give'em each a gun and let them settle it at 12 paces. Both gentlemen in the photo dont appear to bothered by the looks of things, not exactly competent villians it appears.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro1 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Such natty dressers, must be the new quality tourists we keep hearing about. Most likely a case of one set of thugs stealing from another. I say give'em each a gun and let them settle it at 12 paces. This case will be settled out of court. the dutchman will get back 70,000 euros. The thugs will walk walking st in a few weeks, the other 20,000 euro hmmm wonder where that went. Oh this one is farang heaven at the cop shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 At least no jokes on the polish mastermind and his henchmen as yet. As mentioned, may be more to this story. Certainly appears to be a unique escape plan after a kidnapping,(hang around town for a while). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Something doesn't sound right here, if they really kidnapped him they would have fled the country immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 There is something not quite right about this story....how did they get the picture of the kidnappers and the kidnappee? I think it must be some kind of gay thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader79 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Their original escape plan included a Polish submarine but...well, you know how that one goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Kidnapped him for 90,000 Baht? And then they stayed in Pattaya...and were just walking down the street? Are these guys crazy? If you're going to do something as serious as kidnapping, you are a fool to just ask for 90,000 Baht. I figure at least 2 million would be more like it. And then to hang around the place after the person you kidnapped is released. Now, that is silly. I don't expect I will ever kidnap anyone, but I'd make sure they had a lot more than 90,000 Baht to pay as a ransom. And I'd be long gone five minutes after I released that person. About 1979 or 1980, a guy I knew was kidnapped and held prisoner for about 3 weeks. He was drugged and held without food or water until he would transfer a large amount of money from his bank in Hong Kong to his kidnappers. I don't remember the amount but it was at least 100,000 dollars equivalent. The bank manager in Hong Kong knew this guy, and notified the Hong Kong police when he got the request to transfer the money to Bangkok. The bank manager said that ===== had never asked for that much money to be transferred anywhere before, so he knew right away that something must be wrong. Apparently ===== was known as being very tight with his money. The bank manager set up a telephone call with ===== to arrange the details of how the money would be transferred. The kidnappers were stupid enough to take that phone call in the place where they were holding =====. The Thai police traced the international call and rescued my friend =====. He had left Phuket for Bangkok for a 2 or 3 day trip to take care of some business affairs in Bangkok (he had a Thai business that he was a partner in), and had been gone for 3 weeks. His Thai girlfriend said she had,"Just never noticed he was missing". My friend immeadiately kicked her out of his house once he got back to Phuket. Apparently he just didn't believe that she "had just never noticed" he was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontius Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Kidnapped him for 90,000 Baht? And then they stayed in Pattaya...and were just walking down the street? Are these guys crazy? If you're going to do something as serious as kidnapping, you are a fool to just ask for 90,000 Baht. I figure at least 2 million would be more like it. And then to hang around the place after the person you kidnapped is released. Now, that is silly. I don't expect I will ever kidnap anyone, but I'd make sure they had a lot more than 90,000 Baht to pay as a ransom. And I'd be long gone five minutes after I released that person. About 1979 or 1980, a guy I knew was kidnapped and held prisoner for about 3 weeks. He was drugged and held without food or water until he would transfer a large amount of money from his bank in Hong Kong to his kidnappers. I don't remember the amount but it was at least 100,000 dollars equivalent. The bank manager in Hong Kong knew this guy, and notified the Hong Kong police when he got the request to transfer the money to Bangkok. The bank manager said that ===== had never asked for that much money to be transferred anywhere before, so he knew right away that something must be wrong. Apparently ===== was known as being very tight with his money. The bank manager set up a telephone call with ===== to arrange the details of how the money would be transferred. The kidnappers were stupid enough to take that phone call in the place where they were holding =====. The Thai police traced the international call and rescued my friend =====. He had left Phuket for Bangkok for a 2 or 3 day trip to take care of some business affairs in Bangkok (he had a Thai business that he was a partner in), and had been gone for 3 weeks. His Thai girlfriend said she had,"Just never noticed he was missing". My friend immeadiately kicked her out of his house once he got back to Phuket. Apparently he just didn't believe that she "had just never noticed" he was gone. 90,000 Lire, buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boggle Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Kidnapped him for 90,000 Baht? And then they stayed in Pattaya...and were just walking down the street? Are these guys crazy? If you're going to do something as serious as kidnapping, you are a fool to just ask for 90,000 Baht. I figure at least 2 million would be more like it. And then to hang around the place after the person you kidnapped is released. Now, that is silly. I don't expect I will ever kidnap anyone, but I'd make sure they had a lot more than 90,000 Baht to pay as a ransom. And I'd be long gone five minutes after I released that person. About 1979 or 1980, a guy I knew was kidnapped and held prisoner for about 3 weeks. He was drugged and held without food or water until he would transfer a large amount of money from his bank in Hong Kong to his kidnappers. I don't remember the amount but it was at least 100,000 dollars equivalent. The bank manager in Hong Kong knew this guy, and notified the Hong Kong police when he got the request to transfer the money to Bangkok. The bank manager said that ===== had never asked for that much money to be transferred anywhere before, so he knew right away that something must be wrong. Apparently ===== was known as being very tight with his money. The bank manager set up a telephone call with ===== to arrange the details of how the money would be transferred. The kidnappers were stupid enough to take that phone call in the place where they were holding =====. The Thai police traced the international call and rescued my friend =====. He had left Phuket for Bangkok for a 2 or 3 day trip to take care of some business affairs in Bangkok (he had a Thai business that he was a partner in), and had been gone for 3 weeks. His Thai girlfriend said she had,"Just never noticed he was missing". My friend immeadiately kicked her out of his house once he got back to Phuket. Apparently he just didn't believe that she "had just never noticed" he was gone. 90,000 Euro. Stupid if it was Baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomahawk Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 This is a lot of money to pay for a Dutchman. Just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Kidnapped him for 90,000 Baht? And then they stayed in Pattaya...and were just walking down the street? Are these guys crazy? If you're going to do something as serious as kidnapping, you are a fool to just ask for 90,000 Baht. I figure at least 2 million would be more like it. And then to hang around the place after the person you kidnapped is released. Now, that is silly. I don't expect I will ever kidnap anyone, but I'd make sure they had a lot more than 90,000 Baht to pay as a ransom. And I'd be long gone five minutes after I released that person. About 1979 or 1980, a guy I knew was kidnapped and held prisoner for about 3 weeks. He was drugged and held without food or water until he would transfer a large amount of money from his bank in Hong Kong to his kidnappers. I don't remember the amount but it was at least 100,000 dollars equivalent. The bank manager in Hong Kong knew this guy, and notified the Hong Kong police when he got the request to transfer the money to Bangkok. The bank manager said that ===== had never asked for that much money to be transferred anywhere before, so he knew right away that something must be wrong. Apparently ===== was known as being very tight with his money. The bank manager set up a telephone call with ===== to arrange the details of how the money would be transferred. The kidnappers were stupid enough to take that phone call in the place where they were holding =====. The Thai police traced the international call and rescued my friend =====. He had left Phuket for Bangkok for a 2 or 3 day trip to take care of some business affairs in Bangkok (he had a Thai business that he was a partner in), and had been gone for 3 weeks. His Thai girlfriend said she had,"Just never noticed he was missing". My friend immeadiately kicked her out of his house once he got back to Phuket. Apparently he just didn't believe that she "had just never noticed" he was gone. Bath 90,000 IS a lot of money for the Poles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkksteviejai Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Who needs enemies............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I am not really surprised, sadly we get a lot of low life foreigner scumbags in LOS, drug dealing, blue movies and also kidnapping. These people must be desparete to do the things they do just in order to stay here. As an old saying goes, you lay as you made the bed. Enjoy B&B in BKK Hilton boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro1 Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 This is a lot of money to pay for a Dutchman. Just kidding. the Dutchman paid for himself .....and in Pattaya, how arrogant is that? just kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chonburiram Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Kidnapped him for 90,000 Baht? And then they stayed in Pattaya...and were just walking down the street? Are these guys crazy? If you're going to do something as serious as kidnapping, you are a fool to just ask for 90,000 Baht. I figure at least 2 million would be more like it. And then to hang around the place after the person you kidnapped is released. Now, that is silly. I don't expect I will ever kidnap anyone, but I'd make sure they had a lot more than 90,000 Baht to pay as a ransom. And I'd be long gone five minutes after I released that person. About 1979 or 1980, a guy I knew was kidnapped and held prisoner for about 3 weeks. He was drugged and held without food or water until he would transfer a large amount of money from his bank in Hong Kong to his kidnappers. I don't remember the amount but it was at least 100,000 dollars equivalent. The bank manager in Hong Kong knew this guy, and notified the Hong Kong police when he got the request to transfer the money to Bangkok. The bank manager said that ===== had never asked for that much money to be transferred anywhere before, so he knew right away that something must be wrong. Apparently ===== was known as being very tight with his money. The bank manager set up a telephone call with ===== to arrange the details of how the money would be transferred. The kidnappers were stupid enough to take that phone call in the place where they were holding =====. The Thai police traced the international call and rescued my friend =====. He had left Phuket for Bangkok for a 2 or 3 day trip to take care of some business affairs in Bangkok (he had a Thai business that he was a partner in), and had been gone for 3 weeks. His Thai girlfriend said she had,"Just never noticed he was missing". My friend immeadiately kicked her out of his house once he got back to Phuket. Apparently he just didn't believe that she "had just never noticed" he was gone. 3 WEEKS without water? IMA_FARANG, that's quite some time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Something doesn't sound right here, if they really kidnapped him they would have fled the country immediately. You are assuming mafia style kidnap for profit.....this was a freind remember so it seems like it wan not really a well planned crime. This sounds like just the M.O. for meth tweekers. They cooked up a plan while high, executed it, and as soon as soon as they got the money they bought pills with it and hid out in thier hotel too paraniod to go outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincentc Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dutchmen paying for somebody else ??!! Obviously a bogus story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 " friend from Poland" friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrakers Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I have a cunning plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Talk about stuuuupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuddingDis Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Either that man is extremely lucky, or that story is partially or all fake. It just doesn't sound real to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 "Mr. Robert Stirring [36] from Poland" His family name certainly doesn't sound like a Polish name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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