I had always thought it was good manners to know when to drop something and not try constantly impose ones views upon others. I had also always thought it was good manners to not need to put down others disparagingly...such as calling people retarded. Nor (i was brought up to believe), is it good manners to look down on others and assume they are less than you.

I was often told this wonderful and invaluable famous story as a child from my Aunt (ok..it is regarding etiquette..however goes hand in hand with good manners)

The first rule of etiquette is to make others feel comfortable no matter what the situation. The Queen of England was giving a formal state dinner for the King of Ethiopia. The King did not know that the small bowl of warm water mixed with lemon was a Finger Bowl designed to cleanse one’s fingers between courses. Not knowing the function of the Finger Bowl, he drank it. Seeing this, the Queen drank hers. Seeing this, every single other person in the Great Hall at Buckingham Palace then drank theirs. The Queen did the wrong thing with her finger bowl in order to do the right thing which is, make the King feel comfortable and not embarrassed

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Maybe you dont quite get my meaning from that. If not, it isnt important. Just carry on.

The first rule of etiquette. The King of Ethiopia, I’m assuming not Haile Selassie and the Queen of England, I’m assuming Victoria. The story is about one barbaric savage who does not know you wash your fingers in a finger bowl. For this analogy to work I have to compare the posters on Bedlam with barbaric savages who don’t know the basics of dining etiquette and my self as Queen Victoria.

Although the etiquette of Queen Victoria and myself might be on a par and even though I have a pretty low opinion of Bedlam posters I do think they are above barbaric savages and can be expected to grasp the rules of common courtesy.

For the analogy to work we would have to be comparing very dissimilar people. I doubt the posters on bedlam were raised in the wilds of sub Saharan Africa.

If however anyone was raised in the jungle let me know and I will surely give you a pass on knowledge of basic courtesy.

I have had occasion to host parties for the people responsible for etiquette of the department of state for a large western country. It was my experience that although their knowledge of etiquette was perfect their manners sometimes left much to be desired. I would submit the two are not in the same ball park.

Perhaps you should find the meaning of the word in this instance mark. You are demonstrating that you are not nearly as smart as you think you are.

Try playing the story with Queen Elizabeth and David Cameron and tell me how it works.

Is that a little humour/sarcasm showing through there mark. We might make a bedlamite out of you yet.

What should we do rakers......me thinks its time to comit hurrykurry.

Mark

Please read all the threads in Bedlam.

A man of your obvious wit and intellect will soon see it is a bit of harmless fluff where like minded ( mindless in my case ) individuals in general post drivel. This drivel is harmless and acts as a relief valve for many and is useful for this relief, and little more. People do not come to Bedlam to seek knowledge, and most importantly, they do not come here to make enemies or joust with pseudo-intellectuals, who seem heel bent on getting people to rise to their not very well hidden, inflammatory comments, often written in quite long paragraphs of a type of drivel that doesn't really match the general drivel found here.

Some folk think this " banter" is just too silly for words and leave. Others asked for, and were granted, a sub-forum where the more relaxed rules of Bedlam allow them to speak on more serious topics non-Thai related as some maybe, again amongst friends who give, take and rarely bare a grudge.

The type of baiting which you seem to enjoy, really doesn't belong here now does it ?

By all means welcome, and happy to have another lunatic to join in the "Mad Hatter's Tea Party" which exists on this sub-forum. However, if you want intelligent conversation and people to feed your ego by becoming upset by your type of drivel, may I be bold and suggest " General " would be more to your liking ?

Anyway good luck.............

I do find a lot of interesting threads in the general forum but the posters have no self control or they don’t realize the limits of the TV staff. Either way it makes for ultra short lived threads.

Today there was a good one about Thai teachers. I was reading it to increase my knowledge. I know one club where they hang out in Pattaya on weekends and holidays and I figured I might pick up some new information on other clubs or schools who had a lot of ladies with game. But no. No self restraint. The thread didn’t run long enough for me to massage it to get some information among all the slurs and defensive comments.

Which government schools are populated by alkies? What are the telltale signs of a naughty math teacher? Why it is a good idea to get good at badminton. All sorts of questions could have been answered. But no, no restraint.

So the general forum is like a tease for me. A lot of good ideas but none run to interesting ends.

I hate the nationality thing. It always busts up good threads. The appeasers and bashers. Frankly who cares. It is not Thai related.

Yup, that was me. and just so you know, discussing individual moderator actions is against forum rules in bedlam too.

Yup, that was me. and just so you know, discussing individual moderator actions is against forum rules in bedlam too.

Not disagreeing with moderators. Just saying that the posters have no self restraint or no knowledge of TV.

Posters take a good thread and ball it all up with issues non related to the topic. Same old stuff, nationalities, gender bashing, personal arguments, same old stuff.

Can i wake up now?

^at least theres no 'virginity' taking claims in this thread

^at least theres no 'virginity' taking claims in this thread

Who's taking?

Mine is avilable to any virile femme.

Edit:

Within reason..... hehe...

^at least theres no 'virginity' taking claims in this thread

Who's taking?

Mine is avilable to any virile femme.

Edit:

Within reason..... hehe...

Its all believable, except the last line

^at least theres no 'virginity' taking claims in this thread

Who's taking?

Mine is avilable to any virile femme.

Edit:

Within reason..... hehe...

Zpete, if you are still a virgin, your wife is doing something wrong.

seriously wrong, I might add.

seriously wrong, I might add.

Maybe he was talking about his nether region, in which case his wife is doing something seriously right

I'm a born-again virgin. Some call it secondary virginity.

I'm keeping myself for Miss Right.

I'm a born-again virgin. Some call it secondary virginity.

I'm keeping myself for Miss Right.

Like you have any choice in the matter

seriously wrong, I might add.

Naaaaaaaah, as some may remember from posts long ago.

The drug I am on for my prostate cancer, Zoladex, has chemically castrated me.

Should be off it in 12 months........ hopefully........ all will be back to normal.

I had the option, pushing up daisies or reborn virgin, chose the latter.

My wife, bless her, has known all along, no probs.

Got to be honest. Having that one big eye is probably hampering your chances mate.

I'm a born-again virgin. Some call it secondary virginity.

I'm keeping myself for Miss Right.

Miss right now you mean?

Wish you the best zpete. My friend went through the same process (im not sure which drug he took, but lowered testosterone levels). I really felt for him because he put on weight and felt hormonal. He always looks on the bright side of life though, and is an inspiration to me. What was funny is he said he understands a bit for the first time what women go through..because the hormones made him emotional. He would get teary eyed and have hot flushes and feel generally not in control of his emotions. I guess sort of like a long term non-stop pms.

Hang on in there pete! Hope to read when you wont be needing medication anymore. Celebrate with a bang. Er... sorry!

Wish you the best zpete. My friend went through the same process (im not sure which drug he took, but lowered testosterone levels). I really felt for him because he put on weight and felt hormonal. He always looks on the bright side of life though, and is an inspiration to me. What was funny is he said he understands a bit for the first time what women go through..because the hormones made him emotional. He would get teary eyed and have hot flushes and feel generally not in control of his emotions. I guess sort of like a long term non-stop pms.

Hang on in there pete! Hope to read when you wont be needing medication anymore. Celebrate with a bang. Er... sorry!

No worry, neva let it get me down.

Loads of laffs, testosterone killed off...growing boobs..... hot flushes all things femmes have in change of life.....LOL,,

This is no worry to either of us, tho' I feel for my wife, but 'tis life.

I'm a born-again virgin. Some call it secondary virginity.

I'm keeping myself for Miss Right.

Miss right now you mean?

Yeah....she'll do for now.

I'm a born-again virgin. Some call it secondary virginity.

I'm keeping myself for Miss Right.

Like you have any choice in the matter

. Shoosh.

I became a born again virgin quite a while ago myself. Then a few months ago I met a nice young man from Peru. He wined and dined me, always the gentleman. And I cooked a few guinea pigs for him too.

I had to drop the poor thing, he didn't know where Scotland was!!! Even googling it, still no idea. How the hel_l he ended up in Switzerland I shall never know. He was very nice, and liked the cat. But if I have to explain in French and broken Spanish where my home country is sort of puts a spanner in it.

So, sadly, I remain a born again, still.

I became a born again virgin quite a while ago myself. Then a few months ago I met a nice young man from Peru. He wined and dined me, always the gentleman. And I cooked a few guinea pigs for him too.

I had to drop the poor thing, he didn't know where Scotland was!!! Even googling it, still no idea. How the hel_l he ended up in Switzerland I shall never know. He was very nice, and liked the cat. But if I have to explain in French and broken Spanish where my home country is sort of puts a spanner in it.

So, sadly, I remain a born again, still.

If you were to cook a guinea pig for me, I would not only tell you where Scotland is, but I would quite happily strip you of your virginity while deflowering myself.

Hows that for a gallant offer?

Have you seen how fast those buggers run?!!

I'd run if I saw Patsy coming with a knife and cooking pot as well.

Have you seen how fast those buggers run?!!

Peruvians?

Have you seen how fast those buggers run?!!

Peruvians?

That's just silly.

Think about it, If all Peruvians were buggers, there'd be no Peruvians and without them no Paddington Bear and very little demand for honey . With little honey, what would the apiarists do? Without them, the B52's would not have been inspired in the hair department, and without hairdressers, where would Patsy get that type of gossip ?

Just silly.

I admire a man who can see the bigger picture, think things through and see the long term consequences.

I was remiss in not seeing all the implications as you have Suiging.

Did you mean our Patsy or Absolutely Fab's Patsy?

I sort of act like AbFab's Patsy - drink and fag in hand.

Anyway, I was talking about guinea pigs.

I can't believe i went on Utoob and typed in Guinea Pigs.... I did have one when i was little. His name was Piggy.

Do you know that they are the only rodent that cats will not attack?