Higher percentage of kiwi men working that ockors, kiwi 90%, ockors 83 %.

Kiwis in Australia better educated, worker harder than Aussies

Despite all those wonderful figures and facts Zpeter, the issue isnt the %'s as close as they may be but its the simple fact that kiwis are on the aussie welfare....whether its 1% or 10%, makes no diff dude

Perhaps you can dig up ur stats on Aussies on Kiwi welfare

I had to check twice to see that I wasn't on the Ladies secret business thread.

I had to check twice to see that I wasn't on the Ladies secret business thread.

What, no picture to attach to that post? Are you feeling okay?

The reason more Kiwis are working in Oz is that CentreLink changed the rules a few years back and said NZ refugees couldn't claim the dole for at least six months after arrival.

Slowed them right down for a while.

The reason more Kiwis are working in Oz is that CentreLink changed the rules a few years back and said NZ refugees couldn't claim the dole for at least six months after arrival.

Slowed them right down for a while.

As a man of honour, I can not deny what you say ........none the less, Russel Crowe is a Kiwi that you sons of convicts can't resist your genetic urges and steal.

No, its just Rusty as known locally prefers to live in Australia. I bumped into him recently and asked him why he chose Oz over New Zeeeelund & his reply was simply, "Too many karnts in kiwiland"

Higher percentage of kiwi men working that ockors, kiwi 90%, ockors 83 %.

Kiwis in Australia better educated, worker harder than Aussies

Despite all those wonderful figures and facts Zpeter, the issue isnt the %'s as close as they may be but its the simple fact that kiwis are on the aussie welfare....whether its 1% or 10%, makes no diff dude

Perhaps you can dig up ur stats on Aussies on Kiwi welfare

Mite try and do that.

Good idea, ND

The reason more Kiwis are working in Oz is that CentreLink changed the rules a few years back and said NZ refugees couldn't claim the dole for at least six months after arrival.

Slowed them right down for a while.

As a man of honour, I can not deny what you say ........none the less, Russel Crowe is a Kiwi that you sons of convicts can't resist your genetic urges and steal.

I think the stand down is 2 years.

New Zealand Ministry of Education figures show the number of Australians at New Zealand tertiary institutions almost doubled from 1978 students in 1999 to 3916 in 2003. In 2004 more than 2700 Australians received student loans and 1220 a student allowance. Unlike other overseas students, Australians pay the same fees for higher education as New Zealanders and are eligible for student loans and allowances. New Zealand students are not treated on the same basis as Australian students in Australia.^[28]

^{Ockors are crooks orrite, come here and take advantage of over generous NZ govt help, and no doubt never repay it. As Harky says, convict genes coming to the fore.} Australians who have emigrated to New Zealand include the 17th and 23rd Prime Ministers of New Zealand Sir Joseph Ward and Michael Savage, Russel Norman, co-leader of the Green Party, and Matt Robson, deputy leader of the Progressive Party.^[......LOL

Pretty old, but NZers pay their way in OZ.

New Zealand paid Australia NZ$160 million in 2000/01 to cover old age, veterans, invalid and single parent benefits received by New Zealanders in Australia.

Kiwis aint the bludgers that ockors make them out to be.

Ockor students ARE.

^You see, virtually EVERYTHING is available when you can be bothered to look for it (& possibly modify it ). Good work Pete. Its clear to see the Ozzies are alot smarter than they look & Kiwi's will always run a poor 2nd (unless of cause, you want to talk about some of the beatiful milk they have in NewwZeelund

Okay Zpete,

You seem to like to consider statistics and various figures, lets see how these grab you.

Australia is 26.81 times bigger than New Zealand.

The Ozzies have a much bigger coastline, 25,760km verses a tiny 15,134km for the kiwis.

Kiwi's have higher mountains which could explain the light headed-ness.

Theres more Aussies, 21,300,000 odd verses a mere 4,300,000 odd sheep shaggers.

Australias population is growing at a faster rate, which means more Aussies to come

Aussies live longer than kiwis. Twice as many kiwis die from Aids each year. Aussie GDP is 7.4 times more than kiwis. GDP Per Capita is $40,000 in oz verses just under $28,000 for the kiwis. Aussie produce 1450 extra barrels of oil per day over that of the kiwis. The Ozzies have 42 billion dollars worth of exchange and gold verse the kiwis with just 15 odd billion dollars worth.

The Aussies have more mobile phones in use 22 million verses the 16 telephones that are presently scattered around between the two kiwi islands (Okay, u got me, theres 4 million kiwi mobs). Theres 15 million Aussie internet connections verses 3 million kiwi ones (& thus more online back-up, so watch out ).

Theres only 122 airports in New Zealand whereas the Aussies have 465....82 of the kiwi ones dont even have a sealed surface where at least 326 of the Ozzie ones have bitumen on them .

Aussies have 812,972km's of roads to cruise on, whilst NZ only has 93,911km's worth. So theres not many places to drive in kiwiland either.

Australia has 5 times the manpower of Available manpower suitable for military Service & they also spend 3% of the GDP on Military expenditure verses the kiwis @ 1%. So watch out or we will invade.

shed...people that are into full contact sports can't wait t'get back to the showers and play 'drop the soap'...

now, me...I useta surf and what more formidable adversary can you have but the sea?...it'll kill ye and not even blink...plus I gotta admit that I have no hand/eye coordination and was always lousy at ball sports, did miserably at 2nd division Little League baseball...

Listen mate.....I am a rugby player of old, as is HB. I hope Humphrey tracks you down in VN and teaches you a lesson or two about rugby players.

As a surfy, I am suprised at your disdain for contact sportsmen.

I agree with you that surfing is a sport that could kill you....and kill you with no fault of your own, however rugby players suffer injury EVERY game (if you play to your maximum best), yet look forward to the next game.

It's one thing to face slightly possible death, it's another to face certain injury and come back for more.....same as that other contact sport, boxing.

Listen mate.....I am a rugby player of old, as is HB. I hope Humphrey tracks you down in VN and teaches you a lesson or two about rugby players.

As Toots and I have worked on the same project, him on the Owner's side - me on the Contractor's side, I could teach him many things.

We contractors consultants are way superior to the owner's lot.

(Well, until the next project - I think I'm on the Owner's side in 2012 on yet another power station)

shed...ah's on de contractor's side dis time an' now yew gots to respec' me...haven't had to deal wid de owner yet, just the sub-contractors within my scope...

Harcourt no offense, I was tryin' t'be all self-effacing an' all; I don't play ball games as I'm no good at them an' they aren't too much fun...people wanna win alla time and take things too seriously...

plus I was harassed and bullied by football coaches in high school, swear to god they were linin' up to have a pop at me because of a famous essay that I wrote about socialist revolution in latin america...they always used my long hair as an excuse: 'when you gonna get that hair cut, boy?...'

I'm a nice guy...honest...

Listen mate.....I am a rugby player of old, as is HB. I hope Humphrey tracks you down in VN and teaches you a lesson or two about rugby players.

As Toots and I have worked on the same project, him on the Owner's side - me on the Contractor's side, I could teach him many things.

We contractors consultants are way superior to the owner's lot.

(Well, until the next project - I think I'm on the Owner's side in 2012 on yet another power station)

you sound like an outside center trapped in the body of a tight head front row forward HB.

Carried a big 8 on my back for most of my life.

When working in hong Kong, well into my fifties, I was recruited into a Chinese development fifteen, stuck in with a number 3 on my back. Whole different world opened up to me. But a bit to tall for the position, which gave me back problems for a couple of years.

shed...ah's on de contractor's side dis time an' now yew gots to respec' me...haven't had to deal wid de owner yet, just the sub-contractors within my scope...

Harcourt no offense, I was tryin' t'be all self-effacing an' all; I don't play ball games as I'm no good at them an' they aren't too much fun...people wanna win alla time and take things too seriously...

plus I was harassed and bullied by football coaches in high school, swear to god they were linin' up to have a pop at me because of a famous essay that I wrote about socialist revolution in latin america...they always used my long hair as an excuse: 'when you gonna get that hair cut, boy?...'

I'm a nice guy...honest...

Here you go

Was that a bump? 'Or are you just pleased to see me?

Cheer up nd, it's my arse the rotties are trying to chew on.

Regards.

Was that a bump? 'Or are you just pleased to see me?

Cheer up nd, it's my arse the rotties are trying to chew on.

Regards.

sorry to hear that.

I was reading another fred on TV and thought eh yup Harcourt must be havin a bad day cos his posts weren't funny and he wasn't extractin the Mickey out of anyone or anyfing. It turns out that someone else has had the ordas..audas.. balls to use HC's avatar. I thought I better let youse all know in case you get confused like what I did. I was gonna get all stroppy like with the imposter, but in the end couldn't be bovvered and thought I'd let HC sort it out his sen.

I was reading another fred on TV and thought eh yup Harcourt must be havin a bad day cos his posts weren't funny and he wasn't extractin the Mickey out of anyone or anyfing. It turns out that someone else has had the ordas..audas.. balls to use HC's avatar. I thought I better let youse all know in case you get confused like what I did. I was gonna get all stroppy like with the imposter, but in the end couldn't be bovvered and thought I'd let HC sort it out his sen.

Dunno if you are aware.

Another poster has the same avatar as Harky.

I was confuzzled a few times, neva looked at the name.

Summun called "Valentine"

I always check name now, avoid a dumb post.

I was reading another fred on TV and thought eh yup Harcourt must be havin a bad day cos his posts weren't funny and he wasn't extractin the Mickey out of anyone or anyfing. It turns out that someone else has had the ordas..audas.. balls to use HC's avatar. I thought I better let youse all know in case you get confused like what I did. I was gonna get all stroppy like with the imposter, but in the end couldn't be bovvered and thought I'd let HC sort it out his sen.

Dunno if you are aware.

Another poster has the same avatar as Harky.

I was confuzzled a few times, neva looked at the name.

Summun called "Valentine"

I always check name now, avoid a dumb post.

Yeah that's the one. But his name brought to mind masacres, murder and mayhem. The real reason I'm gonna let his nibs sort it out himself.

I wonder if that valentine knows what tender ground he is marching on......RAFLMAO, Imagine running around with harkies avatar

ps: u'd have to be a bit of a ponse wouldnt you?

^ hey ND, noticed today that there was a member using the name nevermindtwo. distant relation of yours ?

anyway not that i can talk, clocked a few months back someone having the audacity to use the name tiggerfish. even got a bloody picture of the fish as his avatar and he seems to talk a lot of sense to !

^Thats a bit farrken rude, the tiggerfish thing. No, don't know nevermindtwo or whatever it was called. I thought the dude running around calling himself deadman was my opposite.

fancy that tigerfish dude speaking sense, what are the odds?

Thought I'd give this thread another bump, with a view of Soi 6 in Pattaya...

^Yes Ian, its very SEEDY! I am sure some men who can't attract women in the real world, like to frequent places like that.

That first photo put me off my breakfast.

That first photo put me off my breakfast.

is right.

When I was a teenager, I was mildly amused by these sois and bars but the novelty quickly wore off. I can't understand grown men with a fixation on these places, its pretty sad really.

That first photo put me off my breakfast.

And I can assure you that the women in that photo look a LOT better from a distance. Definitely long past their prime. Unfortunately, at that point they don't have many other options.

When I was a teenager, I was mildly amused by these sois and bars but the novelty quickly wore off. I can't understand grown men with a fixation on these places, its pretty sad really.

Not quite sure what is hard to understand, or why it should be sad nd. We all (as in all) have our sexual preferences, nuances, whatever you want to call them. Is there a "normal" as far as sex is concerned? Fat, thin, big breasts, small breasts, young, old, sleazy, dirty, foul-mouthed, big tukkas, mummy, domination, spanking, anal, oral and on and on the list goes.

Nothing is sad in consensual sex. Everything is, as we make it. Respectfully there nd. Just my opinion.

'And for any "offended" lurkers at least 5 of the above list have been my partners preferences, over the years.

Regards.

Let me guess....your partner prefers fat, old, big breasted, foul mouthed mummys?

Well, my only comment is that this is typical of North American (or European) women of the same vintage as the Thai women on Soi 6...

I wouldn't even have taken her picture except she was annoying. She was continually screetching at her children or grand children playing at the pool. It was the loud noise that brought me to the window thinking that someone was being murdered. I believe she was German.