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Parental Consent

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In the General forum there is a discussion about a Falang who’s Thai son got caught bonking a babe. They are both underage.

All the "Wiki wise" and "Google heads" and "TV pundits" quoted a criminal code that states the age of consent is 18. Of course this is meaningless because everyone knows a Thai parent has control of their daughters sex organs until she is 20.

It was obvious reading the thread that many other Falangs have run into the same situation.

A girl’s parent may sue in a Thai court and the male can go to jail for having sex with a Thai woman under 20 years of age.

It is not prostitution and the criminal code has nothing to do with it.

One of the things a foreign male should be aware of in Thailand is the fact that he may be a target if his Thai wife has a boy who is dating girls under the age of 20.

It has everything to do with parental rights and nothing to do with prostitution. I know an Aussie lawyer who married a 15 year old woman 10 years ago with the permission of her parents. They now have four children and from what I can see a very happy family. Now, she is 25 and he is 65.

On the other hand I know a Canadian who’s boy is still on the run because he got caught with a girl his own age (both 16) bonking at the beach and the girl’s family filed a complaint against the boy and the cops are still looking for him. The Thai family got greedy they wanted 500,000 from the Canadian and he is retired with a good monthly income but not that much cash in the bank. So the kid left town and is staying with relatives in the hinterland.

Anyway this whole discussion leaves me with a couple of questions. 1. All of the sources on the net about legal age and age of consent and age of parental control are in error about Thailand. Parents can control a female child until 20.

Shouldn’t some one correct them?

2. Thai Visa has no legal forum as such. In the health forum there is a quasi professional advising people. Shouldn’t, in legal matters, there be a quasi legal person with some knowledge of Thai law advising topics?

If it is OK in the medical forum why not the legal practice.

Is there a difference between law and medicine in terms of professional standing on TV?

A resident lawyer would be handy, and I imagine in high demand.....perhaps that's why nobody has volunteered.

In the General forum there is a discussion about a Falang who's Thai son got caught bonking a babe. They are both underage.

All the "Wiki wise" and "Google heads" and "TV pundits" quoted a criminal code that states the age of consent is 18. Of course this is meaningless because everyone knows a Thai parent has control of their daughters sex organs until she is 20.

It was obvious reading the thread that many other Falangs have run into the same situation.

A girl's parent may sue in a Thai court and the male can go to jail for having sex with a Thai woman under 20 years of age.

It is not prostitution and the criminal code has nothing to do with it.

One of the things a foreign male should be aware of in Thailand is the fact that he may be a target if his Thai wife has a boy who is dating girls under the age of 20.

It has everything to do with parental rights and nothing to do with prostitution. I know an Aussie lawyer who married a 15 year old woman 10 years ago with the permission of her parents. They now have four children and from what I can see a very happy family. Now, she is 25 and he is 65.

On the other hand I know a Canadian who's boy is still on the run because he got caught with a girl his own age (both 16) bonking at the beach and the girl's family filed a complaint against the boy and the cops are still looking for him. The Thai family got greedy they wanted 500,000 from the Canadian and he is retired with a good monthly income but not that much cash in the bank. So the kid left town and is staying with relatives in the hinterland.

Anyway this whole discussion leaves me with a couple of questions. 1. All of the sources on the net about legal age and age of consent and age of parental control are in error about Thailand. Parents can control a female child until 20.

Shouldn't some one correct them?

2. Thai Visa has no legal forum as such. In the health forum there is a quasi professional advising people. Shouldn't, in legal matters, there be a quasi legal person with some knowledge of Thai law advising topics?

If it is OK in the medical forum why not the legal practice.

Is there a difference between law and medicine in terms of professional standing on TV?

Me thinks you protesteth too much. What have you been up to mark ?....ohmy.gif

Why would anyone offer for free what they can charge for?

As I heard a Lao girl telling a horny backpacker in Vientiane one night.

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Me? Current GF has two boys one 15 and one 7. Hence my concern.

Why would anyone offer for free what they can charge for?

As I heard a Lao girl telling a horny backpacker in Vientiane one night.

:lol:

TVQOTD

Me? Current GF has two boys one 15 and one 7. Hence my concern.

Sorry, I thought you were suggesting ThaiVisa make some lawyer provide a free legal service here.

2. Thai Visa has no legal forum as such. In the health forum there is a quasi professional advising people. Shouldn't, in legal matters, there be a quasi legal person with some knowledge of Thai law advising topics?

If it is OK in the medical forum why not the legal practice.

Is there a difference between law and medicine in terms of professional standing on TV?

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If I was a Thai lawyer wanting more business I would love to use TV as an advertising tool. It is called marketing savvy. For example in the current question I would have told the parent, “yes the police can put your lad in jail.” For help in negotiating a settlement contact me at ***** and I will advise you further. Seems like a no brainer.

There is a big law firm in Pattaya that gives free consultations anyway. I would think it would be a natural. But, of course it would silence a lot of resident TV blowhards. Some of whom seem to be well connected.

Not true, I have no connection to anyone involved with ThaiVisa.

If I was a Thai lawyer wanting more business I would love to use TV as an advertising tool. It is called marketing savvy. For example in the current question I would have told the parent, “yes the police can put your lad in jail.” For help in negotiating a settlement contact me at ***** and I will advise you further. Seems like a no brainer.

There is a big law firm in Pattaya that gives free consultations anyway. I would think it would be a natural. But, of course it would silence a lot of resident TV blowhards. Some of whom seem to be well connected.

I would suggest there is no barrier to such an entity, as long as the advice was 'without prejudice' to Thai Visa and they were not held accountable.

If I was a Thai lawyer wanting more business I would love to use TV as an advertising tool. It is called marketing savvy. For example in the current question I would have told the parent, "yes the police can put your lad in jail." For help in negotiating a settlement contact me at ***** and I will advise you further. Seems like a no brainer.

There is a big law firm in Pattaya that gives free consultations anyway. I would think it would be a natural. But, of course it would silence a lot of resident TV blowhards. Some of whom seem to be well connected.

I would suggest there is no barrier to such an entity, as long as the advice was 'without prejudice' to Thai Visa and they were not held accountable.

As Sunbelt are a major sponsor of TV, This aint happening lads.

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If I was a Thai lawyer wanting more business I would love to use TV as an advertising tool. It is called marketing savvy. For example in the current question I would have told the parent, "yes the police can put your lad in jail." For help in negotiating a settlement contact me at ***** and I will advise you further. Seems like a no brainer.

There is a big law firm in Pattaya that gives free consultations anyway. I would think it would be a natural. But, of course it would silence a lot of resident TV blowhards. Some of whom seem to be well connected.

I would suggest there is no barrier to such an entity, as long as the advice was 'without prejudice' to Thai Visa and they were not held accountable.

As Sunbelt are a major sponsor of TV, This aint happening lads.

Yes I wondered about that. I would think he could double his business. But maybe there is no money in Law as opposed to real estate.

The forum rules state that any information you receive from thaivisa is not legally binding & given as an opinion. You should engage your own professional consultation to clarify any information or questions.

The "quasi" professionals you mention in the health forum are long standing medical professionals who offer their knowledge & expertise free of change to the benefit of members, they were not sought out but found thaivisa themselves. Over the course of time they became forerunners in providing help & advice for the forum. Again, it is clear they are not diagnosing but offering suggestions & advice & that anyone with medical issues should contact a doctor.

That no one has come forward to offer legal advice has little relevance to what thaivisa does or what it is expected to do, it only means that someone with sufficient, relevant knowledge is not a poster or is but doesn't have the inclination to give advice, free of charge, to the forum. As is their prerogative.

Me? Current GF has two boys one 15 and one 7. Hence my concern.

Sorry, I thought you were suggesting ThaiVisa make some lawyer provide a free legal service here.

2. Thai Visa has no legal forum as such. In the health forum there is a quasi professional advising people. Shouldn't, in legal matters, there be a quasi legal person with some knowledge of Thai law advising topics?

If it is OK in the medical forum why not the legal practice.

Is there a difference between law and medicine in terms of professional standing on TV?

Doctor or lawyer huh? hmmmm......Please PM for details of my fees as I'm qualified in both.

Don't believe me? Well up to you.... :whistling:

The forum rules state that any information you receive from thaivisa is not legally binding & given as an opinion. You should engage your own professional consultation to clarify any information or questions.

The "quasi" professionals you mention in the health forum are long standing medical professionals who offer their knowledge & expertise free of change to the benefit of members, they were not sought out but found thaivisa themselves. Over the course of time they became forerunners in providing help & advice for the forum. Again, it is clear they are not diagnosing but offering suggestions & advice & that anyone with medical issues should contact a doctor.

That no one has come forward to offer legal advice has little relevance to what thaivisa does or what it is expected to do, it only means that someone with sufficient, relevant knowledge is not a poster or is but doesn't have the inclination to give advice, free of charge, to the forum. As is their prerogative.

As a health professional myself I would happily offer advice based on my level of knowledge but any health worker worth their salt wouldn't dream of attempting a diagnosis over an internet forum. Surely its the same and probably even more so for a lawyer whose every word may be scrutinised.

exactly right smokie, the advice in any of the sub forums, be it child are, visa info, health, gardening or dog care, come from posters who offer their knowledge, right or wrong, free of charge. If I had a legal problem I sure of hel_l wouldn't be relying on what joeblogs on thaivisa told me was fact :D

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exactly right smokie, the advice in any of the sub forums, be it child are, visa info, health, gardening or dog care, come from posters who offer their knowledge, right or wrong, free of charge. If I had a legal problem I sure of hel_l wouldn't be relying on what joeblogs on thaivisa told me was fact :D

It would be nice if someone could reference a law or common practice or something on the issue of parental control extending until a woman is 20 years of age in Thailand. Surely a Thai lawyer would know this. I don't think that calls for an opinion. The only references the google heads can come up with deals with prostitution and that is not the issue. This is a common issue in Thailand and no one seems to be able to point to some case law that deals with the issue. Before you go to a lawyer or a doctor it is nice to know the basics of the problem so you know how best to ask your questions.

For example after an operation I was upset that the hospital kept taking blood tests daily until someone told me they did it to make sure I didn 't have an infection. I mean after 20 blood tests I was getting tired of being jabbed daily. When I found out it was standard procedure and not the hospital trying to pad my bill by unnecessary testing I felt better about it.

Being able to read case law or medical texts on an issue is helpful before going to a lawyer or doctor and I think would aid individuals on making better decisions.

So when my GF says that her favorite son can sow his wild oats wherever he wants I can point to some text that says, "in Thailand he better ask mommy and daddy first if she is under 20."

Because I will have the discussion with the young man and tell him what he does he is responsible for and not to expect a penny from me to bail him out of his indiscretions. I do have some personal experience with this issue having worked double shifts in a factory all summer long when I was 16 to pay the bills of a certain young woman I met while thinking I was an adult.

I doubt the letter of the law would matter in a case like this. I doubt the boy will take much notice of your concerns either if a girl flutters her eyelashes at him.

The only way to be really sure you're safe is to find a new girlfriend, which may not be what you want to hear.

No charge for the free legal advice. B)

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I doubt the letter of the law would matter in a case like this. I doubt the boy will take much notice of your concerns either if a girl flutters her eyelashes at him.

The only way to be really sure you're safe is to find a new girlfriend, which may not be what you want to hear.

No charge for the free legal advice. B)

You may be right but I was responding to Boo that I did not want a specific legal opinion. I wanted someone who, familiar with Thai law would state some general points.

Say a guy relates an experience where his GF has threatened to kill him, what should he do. A Thai lawyer could tell him he needs to see a lawyer to take the steps necessary to protect himself. All the other advice given on these forums to that question are mostly silly. Without a good lawyer to accompany him to the police station to see come cops that the lawyer knows any other advice is worse than worthless. It is dangerous.

See what I mean? It is a marketing opportunity for a law firm with a benefit to Thai Visa and the posters on TV. My ex wife, the artificial everything lady, worked for a plastic surgeon. She was all over the TV news and newspapers offering free advice on every skin and beauty problem in the world. All in order promote her doctors and her business.

Thai law, in practice, is all general points.

Surely with your years of experience here you must know that little good generally comes of foreigners demanding their rights under Thai law.

I'd like to hear the reaction of the Thai police if a farang demanded he be allowed to take out a restraining order on his homicidal Thai wife. They'd probably want to tell you about how unreasonable THEIR wives are. (And how THEY deal with it.)

However I know where you're coming from, you'd like to see the legal equivalent of a lonely hearts column where expats could get a general idea of what their rights are under Thai law.

Personally I think it's too much of a minefield, every case can be different here depending on the circumstances, particularly in minor criminal matters.

Any legal advice is likely to be flooded with comments from members claiming that that's not what happened to them.

However I know where you're coming from, you'd like to see the legal equivalent of a lonely hearts column where expats could get a general idea of what their rights are under Thai law.

Personally I think it's too much of a minefield, every case can be different here depending on the circumstances, particularly in minor criminal matters.

Any legal advice is likely to be flooded with comments from members claiming that that's not what happened to them.

Actually that would be quite valuable. It is important to know what the law actually is and it is important to know how it is applied. Sort of like the way the written English laws are modified by case law to what would seem to someone reading them the opposite.

Unless you knew the exact circumstances of each case, and had the means of separating truth from wishful thinking and down right dishonesty then I can't see the use of it, other than for entertainment value.

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