Thai Colleges Get A Dressing Down Over Short Skirts

[robertson468]

<br>"Quote" "Students who overly expose their flesh could become the victims of crime, he said, and urged parents to watch what their children were wearing."<BR>Is this charnwit's words or&nbsp; a bit of Thai journalism. Seems someone is trying to encourage people to commit crimes.&nbsp; The girls skirts in the picture are a lot longer than what is seen on television and the newspapers everyday including Bangkok streets. Funny enough in the north they are a lot longer than in Bangkok, usually below the knees.<br>

<br><br>What a complete and utter nonsense.  The Thai teenage Daughter of a friend of mine ( a highly intelligent young lass who has gone to Uni early) wonders why the Government does not have more pressing priorities, than pointing the finger at young (and that is probably the key word) ladies who want to feel and look attractive by wearing clothes that most of her peer group wears.  Furthermore, how are they going to legislate what is too short and what is not?  Are they going to issue the police with measuring tapes so that they can check what is legal or illegal?   I have no doubt the male policemen would love this job, but how many are they going to report?  This is completely barking - I SAID BARKING SIR!!<img class="bbc_emoticon" alt="

[venturalaw]

A few comments point towards improving education and that the skirt thing isnt something to consider. However, its a pretty delicate age where girls form opinions about themselves, their self-worth, their identities...and how boys view them. Having clothes tighter, shorter, promoting skinniness, wearing a lot of padding in bras so that the shirt strains at the buttons, isnt that giving the message that in order to be perceived as desirable they have to fit a mold and reveal a lot of skin? A lot of the girls are skipping meals, taking diet pills, etc. How is any of that conducive to learning? Shouldnt the uniform be standardized and neat but not too sexy? The focus on a females self worth should be on her studies, not how sexy she looks to the opposite sex.

Eek, we are talking about college girls here. Now I agree with your point regarding the impressionable youth if it is in reference to junior high or high school girls. However, that being said, is it in your opinion appropriate that the Government step in to enforce a dress code, thereby becoming the fashion police, for any aged student? And the sanction to be employed if a school fails to succumb to the mandate is to shut it down for a week?

The self-esteem of our children is formed at home. Government dictates are never the answer.

Edited July 13, 2010 by venturalaw

[Bruce1]

University students are adults, not children. If they're old enough to be conscripted into military service, they're old enough to decide how to dress.

[DickFarang]

In French there is an expression “Le ridicule ne tue pas, mais des fois il fait très mal quand même.” (“Ridiculousness does not kill, but sometimes however it hurts (the ridiculous person(s)) a lot.”)

[symbiosis]

typical of the government to make an issue over some trumped up "morality" thing to take the public's eyes off murder, corruption, etc.

[Arkady]

Funny that there is no mention of overly tight blouses in the latest crackdown.

[moe666]

Short skirts more dangerous than a few thousand thugs taking over Bangkok?

[rch1023]

How about the focus on education for a while and actually teach them something for a change. Don't worry about their clothes.

How about teach them dress sense?

How abut teach the teachers dress sense??

How about teach the thought police dress sense???

The girls look fine, and the ladies they grow into could challenge Paris for their style.

Always - if you don't like how the children do it, teach them to do it properly. They will always find their own way anyway, but they will, on the whole, listen to GOOD advice.

- Roger -

[MRCOCONUT]

"Quote" "Students who overly expose their flesh could become the victims of crime, he said, and urged parents to watch what their children were wearing."<BR>Is this charnwit's words or  a bit of Thai journalism. Seems someone is trying to encourage people to commit crimes.  The girls skirts in the picture are a lot longer than what is seen on television and the newspapers everyday including Bangkok streets. Funny enough in the north they are a lot longer than in Bangkok, usually below the knees.

This makes no sence what so ever.... Where does it say that short skirts and even short hair will effect a girls Education!?

[Grumbles]

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

[Tanaka]

"Quote" "Students who overly expose their flesh could become the victims of crime, he said, and urged parents to watch what their children were wearing."<BR>Is this charnwit's words or  a bit of Thai journalism. Seems someone is trying to encourage people to commit crimes.  The girls skirts in the picture are a lot longer than what is seen on television and the newspapers everyday including Bangkok streets. Funny enough in the north they are a lot longer than in Bangkok, usually below the knees.

In schools with minors, yes but not at the unis here in Isaan.

[SoftWater]

A different take on this - as I understand it students at Thammasaat do not have to wear a uniform, and their choice of clothing leaves even less to the imagination than the one's under discussion.

I don't think 'wearing a uniform or not' is the issue. The issue is 'is an educational establishment an appropriate place to display your sexuality in as provocative a way as you may wish?

I don't take a stance, but would just like to see the issue properly framed.

(Normal service may now be resumed... )

Edited July 13, 2010 by SoftWater

[Tanaka]

Tokay: How about the focus on education for a while and actually teach them something for a change.

Don't worry about their clothes.

Here. Here.

Na, can't do that. It would require teachers who know their subjects properly.

[ajarnchompoo]

Its crazy, why should women be afraid to wear what they like to wear, its seems its always the old stuffy buracrats [ wrong spelling na]? who try to lay down the law, get a life and concentrate on the more important aspects of education, like teaching about birth control, if they are so afraid of teenage pregnancies!

[bangkokbruce]

<IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif">Keep them where their at. Gives me something to look at when their riding side saddle on the motorcycle taxi. <IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/burp.gif">

[surangw]

"Students who overly expose their flesh could become the victims of crime'

the female libbers in the west would go nuts over this line.

[atf343]

Students go school to study, not to show off, and will also learn dress code is something important when they will start their adult life. What would you think if they dress like that coming to office?

I think it's a little too late for that. Do you not see how office ladies dress nowadays? Some women even wore what could already be technically called a "cocktail dress" and I'm not counting the ones who had to wear these as their "gimmick" manning the cosmetics section at some dept store. That and also translucent semi-seethru blouses, supertight pencil skirts, pleated mini's etc etc.

While I don't mind this at all, I find it is ludicrous to regulate univ school uniforms when you already got 'morally compromised' dress going on in offices too. Let's see you poke that hornet's nest, moral police

How about when a univ girl with a 'morally compromised' uniform is caught by the moral police, she says, "I'm not a student, I'm an office girl! Jing jiiiing!" *bats eyes*

Now that being said, I also find that it's double standards when all the girls get all the attention and guys don't. That's right, I'm talking about us guys with non-matching, loud ties and chest hair baring polo/button down shirts. Oh, oh, mista, your shirt's not buttoned down high enough, I can see your manboob cleavage. You forgot to tuck in your shirt properly too, mista.

On a more serious note, I say let's ban guys wearing makeup, i mean honestly, if you're aspiring to be a tranny or it's for touching up for work, be my guest, but keep in mind there are times when it's just plain overboard, and there are lots of things that can not be unseen. Nuff said. Lip stain, guys?

Edited July 13, 2010 by atf343

[TheLaughingMan]

Well Eek I thought I raised some valid points countering your train of thought but guess not.

[Brewsta]

<P>

<BR>Its hot in Thailand, whats wrong with wearing temperature appropriate clothing. Maybe a Burka would appease the skin police.<BR>Besides I like looking at short skirts  <IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif"><BR>

<BR><BR>I live in Thailand and I work in Saudi Arabia - month after month of 'seeing' women ghosting around in full-length black burkha. Not fun and not natural, esp. in the <FONT size=5>current temp of 50 deg C (over 120 deg F) !!!</FONT> <BR><BR>Anyhow, I return to my home and family in Chiangmai in 2 weeks after this latest 13 week tour over here for a 6 week holiday  and I cannot wait to see the female species in all their glory.<BR><BR>Brewsta needs to see bikinis !!</P>

[witold]

Isn't it just a form of resistance to compulsory uniforms?  If the girls were able to select their own clothes each day there'd be no problem would there?  I'm not aware of university students' short skirts constituting a social problem in other countries I'm familiar with.

In the USA, the topic of short skirts reappears at most schools every year, regardless of whether the school has a uniform or not.  It is certainly not a Thai thing.

[animatic]

One thing missed in this uniform dress code is that

it actively removes any sense of personality from the student in a crowd.

Homogenization, ok that makes good little worker bees,

but truly stifles one outlet for personal creativity and developing a personality.

BUT more so, and more to this point, is that it severely limits the girls ability to

do what comes naturally and try to attract those she is interested in to her side.

Now the reasons she wants someone to be with is not 'one or the other',

it's many reasons, but we ALL use our personal attractiveness when we choose to.

Now when they all have about the same make-up possibilities,

and their dress is extremely regimented and limited they are then forced to

push those limits as far as possible to stand out amongst the throng of other girls

with the exact same problem.

My observation suggest that the girls act more sexy than the might otherwise choose to,

because that is one of the few routes to physical differentiation from the crowd.

That once they have attracted the 'person or persons' of their choice

to with in 'striking distance' they can use intelligence, charm, and charms,

to finish the sale of themselves as someone the other wants to spend time with.

I think these uniforms make worse the problem they wish to 'cure'.

Clean, neat, individually personalized, and in good taste,

makes much more sense as a Uni dress code.

Students go school to study, not to show off, and will also learn dress code is something important when they will start their adult life. What would you think if they dress like that coming to office?

Well Mac I suspect it's a LONG time since you were in a Uni.

Or you weren't terribly observant during those times.

They are also, during the whole time, working on their inter-personal socialization skills.

Grade point averages get low priority during lunch discussions.

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Edited July 13, 2010 by animatic

[TPI]

Is it already that time of the year again?

These are the same men who complain about "spagetti straps" on bra's (ooops! that's next week), meanwhile their 17 year old Mia Noi's are saying "Oh pappa get me a new phone na ka"............sometimes Thai men are really boring!

[fasteddie]

"Quote" "Students who overly expose their flesh could become the victims of crime, he said, and urged parents to watch what their children were wearing."<BR>Is this charnwit's words or  a bit of Thai journalism. Seems someone is trying to encourage people to commit crimes.  The girls skirts in the picture are a lot longer than what is seen on television and the newspapers everyday including Bangkok streets. Funny enough in the north they are a lot longer than in Bangkok, usually below the knees.

Oh my god! Fascism reigns supreme in this country, first we have the army assassinating innocent protesters now schools are to be closed because of short skirts!

Cambodia here I come!

[bartender100]

yeh yeh

dot com

[overhaul38]

Burqua ... OK. Short skirts....NO.

[barney42bb]

<br>"Quote" "Students who overly expose their flesh could become the victims of crime, he said, and urged parents to watch what their children were wearing."<BR>Is this charnwit's words or&nbsp; a bit of Thai journalism. Seems someone is trying to encourage people to commit crimes.&nbsp; The girls skirts in the picture are a lot longer than what is seen on television and the newspapers everyday including Bangkok streets. Funny enough in the north they are a lot longer than in Bangkok, usually below the knees.<br>

<br><br>I feel..Students floyting the rules should be made..<br><br>Walk up and down the escalotors of BTS and shopping mall escalators 100 times during the lunch hour,,,,In both directions.<br><br>

[sirchai]

Up with skirts down with pants.

Please let them wear their short skirts. Isn't that what keeps us young?

[RKASA]

"Quote" "Students who overly expose their flesh could become the victims of crime, he said, and urged parents to watch what their children were wearing."<BR>Is this charnwit's words or  a bit of Thai journalism. Seems someone is trying to encourage people to commit crimes.  The girls skirts in the picture are a lot longer than what is seen on television and the newspapers everyday including Bangkok streets. Funny enough in the north they are a lot longer than in Bangkok, usually below the knees.

Oh my god! Fascism reigns supreme in this country, first we have the army assassinating innocent protesters now schools are to be closed because of short skirts!

Cambodia here I come!

Private school the subject is private school dress codes enforced by the government. That is the problem.

"The Office of the Private Education Commission (Opec) has warned"

why don't they just suck an egg. They are not the ones paying for these classes or the uniforms.

[Bruce1]

I aree with Animatic, as I said above. The problem is over-regulation of dress to the point that the natural desire to present as an individual is stifled and really all they are being left to distinguish themselves is to shorten the skirt and tighten the blouse. Uni students are adults, not children. At that age there is a natural desire to push the boundaries a bit. The tighter the boundary is set, the more they will want to push it. If the dress regulators backed off most girls would dress appropriately and then the ones that went overboard would be more obvious and easy to tell to tone it down a bit.

[sokal]

I do think they have a point......... so i have taken the time out to research this subject with vigour.

i have found some offending photos already.

If i find anymore i will seek further opinion from the members.

hmmmm now where shall i look now....

Thats a stunning figure, the one on the left.