Can I Do This

[NewGuy]

Just came into Chiang Rai 'cause someone in the gf's family died, to attend the funeral and I asked myself this question, which i pass on to you:

What will happen to my visa status if I go to Myanmar for the afternoon?

1. My non-imm OA visa was issued in Toronto August 2004.

2. Earlier I purchased a multiple re-entry stamp as well, which has since expired.

3. I arrived at Don Muang Oct 20 2004 and received an Oct 19 2005 stamp.

4. I went to Tacelek from Mai Sai on Dec 5 2004 and on return my visa was stamped as valid until Dec 4 2005.

So ....

If I go to Mai Sai tomorrow, get the 1000 baht single re-entry stamp, pay the Burmese US$5, come right back, what date will be stamped in my passport for my non-imm OA renewal date? Will I loose anything by this procedure?

Thanks to all

[thaiflyer1]

You must of had a Non Imm O-A multiple entry originally did you?

Anyway if i/m reading it right when you come back in with the single re-entry permit you/ll be stamped through to Dec 4th 2005 as your original visa issued in Toronto will of expired...............shame you didn't nip out and back in just prior to its expiry as if it was a multi you would of got another years stay stamp.

If you intend to stay on you/ll also need to start the ball rolling re your coming up renewal.

[Maestro]

    What will happen to my visa status if I go to Myanmar for the afternoon?

1.  My non-imm OA visa was issued in Toronto August 2004.

2.  Earlier I purchased a multiple re-entry stamp as well, which has since expired.

3.  I arrived at Don Muang Oct 20 2004 and received an Oct 19 2005 stamp.

4.  I went to Tacelek from Mai Sai on Dec 5 2004 and on return my visa was stamped as valid until Dec 4 2005.

    If I go to Mai Sai tomorrow, get the 1000 baht single re-entry stamp, pay the Burmese US$5, come right back, what date will be stamped in my passport for my non-imm OA renewal date?  Will I loose anything by this procedure?

It looks like you got the chronology of events a bit mixed up. In addition, that “permitted to stay until Dec 4 2005” looks funny.

Was the chronology perhaps like this:

1. August 2000: non-OA visa is issued.

2. Oct 20, 2004: entry into Thailand with non-OA visa. Stamp in passport: “permitted to stay until Oct 19, 2005”.

3. Purchase of multiple re-entry permit, valid until Oct 19, 2005.

4. Dec 5, 2004: departure from Thailand, and re-entry into Thailand with re-entry permit. Stamp in passport: “permitted to stay until Dec 4, 2005”.

It seems to me that upon your re-entry on Dec 5, 2004 you should have received permission to stay only until Oct 19, 2005, but let’s wait to hear it from an expert. In the meantime, please confirm if the chronology, as I see it, is correct.

[thaiflyer1]

It looks like you got the chronology of events a bit mixed up. In addition, that “permitted to stay until Dec 4 2005” looks funny.

Some countries were issuing O-A multiple entries i.e they were valid for a year but if you left and re-entered during that year you would recieve a fresh years stay..............can only assume thats what he had.

Or as you say the events are in the wrong order.

[Maestro]

Some  countries  were  issuing  O-A  multiple  entries  i.e  they  were  valid  for  a  year  but  if  you  left  and  re-entered  during  that  year  you  would  recieve  a  fresh  years  stay..............can  only  assume  thats  what  he  had.

I see, and understand.

It would also mean, then, that he wouldn’t have needed to buy that multiple re-entry permit before leaving and re-entering on Dec 5, 2004, doesn’t it?

Let’s hope it is indeed a multiple non-OA, otherwise the poor chap would technically be on overstay.

[thaiflyer1]

It would also mean, then, that he wouldn’t have needed to buy that multiple re-entry permit before leaving and re-entering on Dec 5, 2004, doesn’t it?

Correct............just have to wait till he posts again to find out.

[NewGuy]

Sorry folks, I didn't realize my cronology was confused and my question mired in goo. So, I'll try again.

1. August 2000: non-OA visa is issued in Toronto. I also got a multiple entry stamp.

2. Oct 20, 2004: entry into Thailand with non-OA visa. Stamp in passport: “permitted to stay until Oct 19, 2005”.

3. Dec 5, 2004: departure from Thailand, and re-entry into Thailand with re-entry permit. Stamp in passport: “permitted to stay until Dec 4, 2005”.

4. October 2005, visted Pattaya Immigration and was told that my multiple entry stamp has expired and that my visa would expire on Dec 4, 2005.

Better? More logical mai? Hope so, anyway ....

Here I am at Mae Sai, the Immigration Office is closed for the day, so if I go to the border, pay 1000 baht for a re-entry stamp, go to Myanmar for a cup of tea, come back, what will be stamped in my passport?

Very eagerly awaiting .... I have another day here, could return Monday to speak to Immigration but I'll go on-line here again in a couple of hours.

BTW, it is a very beautiful drive up from Chiang Rai.

[lopburi3]

You are ok to go - just get that re entry permit first - that will be dated 4 Dec 2005 and that date will (should) be what immigration stamps as your permitted to stay when you return. Be sure to enter the re-entry permit information on your arrival card.

Don't forget to extend your stay at immigration before December 4. You can do any time during the last 30 days.

[thaiflyer1]

Makes sense now

Dec 4th should be stamped when you return as long as you have the re-entry permit.

Edit...............one thing a little still confusing when the visa was issued you say you got a "multiple entry stamp" do you mean a multiple re-entry permit or a Non O-A multiple entry visa (there is a difference)

If you originally were issued a Non O-A single entry and additionally applied for a multiple re-entry permit then you should not of been given the Dec 4th 2005 stamp.............your time should of been up 19th Oct 2005.

Can only assume you either had the Non O-A multiple entry visa or someone made a balls up when stamping you back in on Dec 5th.

Anyway wouldnt worry too much about it.

Did you mean to write O-A issued August 2004?..........(you wrote Aug 2000)

[dr_Pat_Pong]

It has to be a Non O-A with multiple entries. Consulates and/or Embassies don't issue re-entry permits.

[NewGuy]

The doctor is correct - I originally got a non-imm OA with multiple entries - and it WAS 2004 - too many typos.

I spoke to an Immigration officer at the border. Yes, pay 1900 Baht, if I heard correctly, get a single-entry stamp and when I re-enter they will stamp Dec 4, 2005 in my passport. If I were to not get the re-entry stamp then when I returned it would be as a 30-day tourist. Ouch!

I could have taken a little trip in August and got a nice bonus on stay time; didn't do it though. And I decided 1900 was too much for a look-see at Tachilek that didn't push out my stay date.

So now I'll try to get the Canadian embassy to issue me paper work for the retirement financial statement (I think they are much more tight-a$$ed than the Americans on proof, etc) but probably end up transferring the 800,001 baht in.

Thanks and cheers ...

[dr_Pat_Pong]