That's a totally wrong interpretation of why American gay people vote for democrats. We are mostly liberals. We do not vote one issue. How utterly insulting. Do you vote one issue? We support most of the democratic party values. Yes civil rights. Health care access. Women's rights. Abortion rights. Accepting SCIENCE. Rejecting Christian religious fundamentalism. Rights to WORKERS. Progressive taxation. Supporting less unjust economic inequality. Really please stop insulting gay people. I have yet to meet one gay person who votes on gay marriage equality only. Yes we want what is best for the country. But we think differently than right wingers do about WHAT that is.

Gay people need jobs too!

There were also Jews in Germany who voted for Hitler.

Perhaps some American gays actually put what's best for their country as a whole above their own personal issues. The right to call your union a marriage vs. bankrupting the country. Hmmm, easy choice which one is more important. Btw, I support same sex marriage but it is an issue that affects a tiny fraction of the population whereas the economic woes we face affect 100% of us. Some gays obviously see that.

Good point. It seems that too many in the gay community support the failure-in-chief just because of one issue and are perfectly willing to see the country go down the drain in order to get it. GOProud are to be commended for putting the USA first.

That's a totally wrong interpretation of why American gay people vote for democrats. We are mostly liberals. We do not vote one issue. How utterly insulting. Do you vote one issue? We support most of the democratic party values. Yes civil rights. Health care access. Women's rights. Abortion rights. Accepting SCIENCE. Rejecting Christian religious fundamentalism. Rights to WORKERS. Progressive taxation. Supporting less unjust economic inequality. Really please stop insulting gay people. I have yet to meet one gay person who votes on gay marriage equality only. Yes we want what is best for the country. But we think differently than right wingers do about WHAT that is.

Yes, some gays look at other issues. They are the ones who vote Republican.

One-issue people insult themselves. I mean, how can someone be so fervently pro-Israel, yet support the most anti-Israel President we have ever had?

Nixon called them kikes, but we were still friends.

One-issue people insult themselves. I mean, how can someone be so fervently pro-Israel, yet support the most anti-Israel President we have ever had?

Nixon called them kikes, but we were still friends.

Calling names is one thing, policy is what matters most. Just look at the way the Anglo world gets along. Plenty of name calling back and forth but at the end of the day we know who is on whose side.

One-issue people insult themselves. I mean, how can someone be so fervently pro-Israel, yet support the most anti-Israel President we have ever had?

Nixon called them kikes, but we were still friends.

Calling names is one thing, policy is what matters most. Just look at the way the Anglo world gets along. Plenty of name calling back and forth but at the end of the day we know who is on whose side.

Oblamer has made that less clear in his short time in office

Obama Supporter Interviews Her 2008 Self

American Crossroads should do a remake of that for a political ad. By the way, I know how she feels.

It is becoming more and more obvious Obama is prepared to throw Israel under a bus, perhaps the one issue Democrats who are Jewish may consider this and vote Republican. I certainly look forward to Romney making capital out of this as a follow up to his visit to Israel, which is something Obama has failed to do during his entire presidency. No problem bending over double to kiss the King of Saud's ring though.

http://www.debka.com/article/22324/US-disowns-Israel-over-Iran-strike-No-weapons-or-military-backup

It is becoming more and more obvious Obama is prepared to throw Israel under a bus, perhaps the one issue Democrats who are Jewish may consider this and vote Republican. I certainly look forward to Romney making capital out of this as a follow up to his visit to Israel, which is something Obama has failed to do during his entire presidency. No problem bending over double to kiss the King of Saud's ring though.

http://www.debka.com...military-backup

That's daft and insulting to Jews in the same way the shameless right wingers here are insulting to gay Americans!

The vast majority of Jewish Americans, first of all, are NOT Israel firsters. We are AMERICA FIRSTERS! We do NOT vote only on Israel policy. It's one issue among many. MOST Jewish Americans like most gay Americans are politically LIBERAL. So of course the vast majority of Jewish Americans vote democratic the same way most gay Americans do. It won't be any different this time!

Now IF it was actually true that Obama had thrown Israel under the bus, of course he would lose some Jewish voters. But Obama did NOT do any such thing. That's just right wing propaganda. The right wing party may be more sympathetic to the RIGHT WING government of Israel, but that is not the same thing as being supportive to Israel in general. Most American Jews, who are LIBERAL, are supportive of some pressure on the right wing Israeli government to soften it's more offensive policies, like the illegal settlements on the west bank.

I also want to add that the majority of American Jews are totally DISGUSTED by Adelson, his unpatriotic Israel firster obsession, and his sickening attempt to BUY the election for Romney. What a travesty. Adelson really should migrate to Israel. Nothing wrong with being an Israel firster if you are ... ISRAELI!

It is becoming more and more obvious Obama is prepared to throw Israel under a bus

Indeed. The only reason that Obama has not done it before now this is that he will lose votes. Obama is more than willing to let Iran get nukes if he can get away with it politically. He is is going to let Israel strike on their own with inferior weapons and jeopardize the safety of the whole world just to get reelected. This man will do or say anything to retain power.

Another article reflecting the attitude in Israel towards Obama. Scaling back the military exercise, rescheduling it for late October and leaving some question as to how much the US will participate is an indication team Obama is frightened of Israeli action towards Iran.

Simply another indication Obama will throw Israel under the bus anytime the pressure is applied.

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Exclusive: U.S. Scales-Back Military Exercise with Israel, Affecting Potential Iran Strike

A smaller U.S. contingent may make it more difficult for the Israeli government to launch a pre-emptive strike on Tehran's nuclear program.

By KARL VICK AND AARON J. KLEIN | August 31, 2012 |

Seven months ago, Israel and the United States postponed a massive joint military exercise that was originally set to go forward just as concerns were brimming that Israel would launch a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. The exercise was rescheduled for late October, and appears likely to go forward on the cusp of the U.S. presidential election. But it won’t be nearly the same exercise. Well-placed sources in both countries have told TIME that Washington has greatly reduced the scale of U.S. participation, slashing by more than two-thirds the number of American troops going to Israel and reducing both the number and potency of missile interception systems at the core of the joint exercise.

“Basically what the Americans are saying is, ‘We don’t trust you,’” a senior Israeli military official tells TIME.

The reductions are striking. Instead of the approximately 5,000 U.S. troops originally trumpeted for Austere Challenge 12, as the annual exercise is called, the Pentagon will send only 1,500 service members, and perhaps as few as 1,200. Patriot anti-missile systems will arrive in Israel as planned, but the crews to operate them will not. Instead of two Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense warships being dispatched to Israeli waters, the new plan is to send one, though even the remaining vessel is listed as a “maybe,” according to officials in both militaries.

Read more: http://world.time.co.../#ixzz25IY434NZ

It is becoming more and more obvious Obama is prepared to throw Israel under a bus, perhaps the one issue Democrats who are Jewish may consider this and vote Republican. I certainly look forward to Romney making capital out of this as a follow up to his visit to Israel, which is something Obama has failed to do during his entire presidency. No problem bending over double to kiss the King of Saud's ring though.

http://www.debka.com...military-backup

That's daft and insulting to Jews in the same way the shameless right wingers here are insulting to gay Americans!

The vast majority of Jewish Americans, first of all, are NOT Israel firsters. We are AMERICA FIRSTERS! We do NOT vote only on Israel policy. It's one issue among many. MOST Jewish Americans like most gay Americans are politically LIBERAL. So of course the vast majority of Jewish Americans vote democratic the same way most gay Americans do. It won't be any different this time!

Now IF it was actually true that Obama had thrown Israel under the bus, of course he would lose some Jewish voters. But Obama did NOT do any such thing. That's just right wing propaganda. The right wing party may be more sympathetic to the RIGHT WING government of Israel, but that is not the same thing as being supportive to Israel in general. Most American Jews, who are LIBERAL, are supportive of some pressure on the right wing Israeli government to soften it's more offensive policies, like the illegal settlements on the west bank.

I refer to the one issue vested interest voters simply based on the relative importance of issues. Israel is a talisman for all Jews and indeed is also the canary in the world's coalmine whenever totalitarianism or racism is on the increase. Any Democrat voter who has any affinity to Israel should weigh up any vested interest policy that may sway them against Israel's very survival. To bring it closer to home, would you be happy having your big gay wedding reception whilst CNN breaking news is about a mushroom cloud above Tel Aviv?

Any one who is afraid of nukes falling into the hands of a bunch of nut should be concerned about this issue and Obama certainly talks the talk. The world is a small place these days. "Israel first" has nothing to do with it.

Now IF it was actually true that Obama had thrown Israel under the bus, of course he would lose some Jewish voters.

There would be some Jewish voters lost all right - those who vote via absentee ballots from Israeli cities that are hit by Iranian missiles.

Obama is very supportive of Israeli defense.

Further PROOF that Bill Clinton is against Obama...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1x-5pCSI84&feature=player_embedded

The mother of a Navy SEAL KIA rips into an out of touch Obama over an ad that Bill Clinton narrates about the courage Obama showed by authorizing the Obama raid because if something went wrong (SEALs killed) the "the downside would have been horrible for him[Obama]".

Clinton is at top of the political food chain and I can't help but think that he is smart enough to know that wouldn't go over well with military families.

The word is out that Hillary is the one who deserves the credit for the decision on the Bin Ladin kill, but of course the military were the ones that actually did it.

You right wingers wouldn't give Obama DESERVED credit even if he did slow the rise of the ocean's waters. You're not fooling anyone. You've demonized Obama to a ridiculously irrational degree. It's like a mental illness.

You right wingers wouldn't give Obama DESERVED credit even if he did slow the rise of the ocean's waters. You're not fooling anyone. You've demonized Obama to a ridiculously irrational degree. It's like a mental illness.

No one is demonizing anyone. I want to go on record saying that Mr. Obama IS NOT a demon...

...he is a Marxist

You right wingers wouldn't give Obama DESERVED credit even if he did slow the rise of the ocean's waters. You're not fooling anyone. You've demonized Obama to a ridiculously irrational degree. It's like a mental illness.

Nice deflection. Do you have an opinion on the ad saying how horrible it would be for Obama if SEALs were captured or killed? That's like saying how horrible it would be for the Democrats next week if the police opened fire on protesters killing dozens. Never mind the people who died an their families, the nation should be concerned with how this will affect the Dem convention,

You right wingers wouldn't give Obama DESERVED credit even if he did slow the rise of the ocean's waters. You're not fooling anyone. You've demonized Obama to a ridiculously irrational degree. It's like a mental illness.

Nice deflection. Do you have an opinion on the ad saying how horrible it would be for Obama if SEALs were captured or killed? That's like saying how horrible it would be for the Democrats next week if the police opened fire on protesters killing dozens. Never mind the people who died an their families, the nation should be concerned with how this will affect the Dem convention,

It is not the few conservatives on this forum that are causing Obama's problems.

Only Obama and his Presidential leadership, as limited as it is, and his policies, whatever they are, have caused his popularity to drop since his inauguration.

He, and only he, is responsible for his fall from favor. He can't blame that on Bush or anybody else. You shouldn't try to either.

...

...he is a Marxist

He is not a Marxist. He is a somewhat left of center moderate. His Obamacare program was modeled directly on Romney's plan in Massachusetts.

You've demonized Obama to a ridiculously irrational degree. It's like a mental illness.

Do you even read your own posts? What about your constant tirades against Romney and Ryan?

He is a somewhat left of center moderate.

That is just the part he plays to get reelected. He is no moderate.

He is a somewhat left of center moderate.

That is just the part he plays to get reelected. He is no moderate.

David Plouffe doesn't seem too proud of his bosses record...and this is from the Washington Post!!

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Obama adviser treads carefully when asked whether Americans are better off

By Sean Sullivan , Updated: September 2, 2012

Asked repeatedly on Sunday whether the country is better off than it was four years ago, David Plouffe, a top adviser to President Obama, would not provide a direct yes or no answer. He responded that the nation has improved from the “depths of the recession” because of Obama’s leadership, but would not flatly say whether the country is better off or not.

Plouffe said on ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos” that, “I think the American people understand that we got into a terrible economic situation,” and “they know we had a deep hole.”

“Yes or no? Are Americans better off today then they were four years ago?” asked Stephanopoulos later in the interview.

“I think everybody understands we were this close to a great depression. Because of the leadership of this president, we staved that off. We are beginning to recover. We have a lot more work to do,” responded Plouffe.

“We have clearly improved form the depths of the recession,” Plouffe also said. “The question for the American people is which path are we going to take,” he added.

http://www.washingto...er-off/?print=1

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...he is a Marxist

He is not a Marxist.

Are you sure?

These inefficiencies manifest themselves as social contradictions in society in the form of

class struggle

. Under the

capitalist mode of production

, this struggle materializes between the minority (the

bourgeoisie

) who own the

means of production

, and the vast majority of the population (the

proletariat

) who produce goods and services. Taking the idea that

social change

occurs because of the struggle between different

classes

within society who are under contradiction against each other, the Marxist analysis leads to the conclusion that

capitalism

oppresses the

proletariat

, which leads to a

proletarian revolution

.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism

No wonder y'all are for Romney. Your facts are completely wrong.

According to your alternative right wing universe:

Man made climate change isn't real

Obama accomplished nothing

Republicans didn't obstruct

Obama is a Marxist

Obama threw Israel "under a bus"

For base right wingers, there is no hope and no change.

Don't forget that Barack Obama’s $787 billion stimulus package was largely a waste of money.

“There is, now, a house-of-cards feel about this administration. It became apparent some weeks ago when the President talked on the stump – where else? – about an essay by a fellow who said spending growth [under Obama] is actually lower than that of previous Presidents. This was startling to a lot of people, who looked into it and found the man had left out most spending from 2009, the first year of Mr. Obama’s Presidency. People sneered: The President was deliberately using a misleading argument to paint a false picture! But you know, why would he go out there waiving an article that could immediately be debunked? Maybe because he thought it was

true

. That’s more alarming, isn’t it, the idea that he knows so little about the effects of his own economic program that he thinks he really is a low spender.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/06/14/president-obama-the-biggest-government-spender-in-world-history/