Relation Problems And Fishing In The Wrong Pool

robblok · June 15, 2012

You are trying to ignore the looks part here. I just showed some studies looks do in fact count for a lot. You can have all the status that you want but if you look bad they wont want you unless you have even more money and then its only money.

For the educated good looking Thai guys its a combination of looks and status. If one is missing the other needs to be exponentially higher. But then you get someone only going for money and then we are again at the point its only about money and you attract bad girls.

The higher the status the more the family is involved; the more money is involved. This is Thailand. This is Asia. Family is more important here. I am struck that you would not know this. Good girls take the boy home. The family is not checking out his six pack. They are checking out his family and bank account. Better go back to Holland where your view of reality is closer to the truth.

I agree with you and think you are correct in most parts of the West. But in Thailand you are totally wrong. There is a reason why so many old men come here as opposed to Poland and the Ukraine.

I think i am still right.. those guys you are talking about don't hunt for poor isarn girls like the foreigners do. They are hunting for girls of equal status. So yes there will be looked if status is comparable between the two. So its more physical attraction because there is not a big income gap.

TommoPhysicist · June 15, 2012

I think i am still right.. those guys you are talking about don't hunt for poor isarn girls like the foreigners do. They are hunting for girls of equal status. So yes there will be looked if status is comparable between the two. So its more physical attraction because there is not a big income gap.

You believe the foreigners coming here to hunt for 'poor Isaan girls' have higher status ......... really?

kerryk · June 15, 2012

You are trying to ignore the looks part here. I just showed some studies looks do in fact count for a lot. You can have all the status that you want but if you look bad they wont want you unless you have even more money and then its only money.

For the educated good looking Thai guys its a combination of looks and status. If one is missing the other needs to be exponentially higher. But then you get someone only going for money and then we are again at the point its only about money and you attract bad girls.

The higher the status the more the family is involved; the more money is involved. This is Thailand. This is Asia. Family is more important here. I am struck that you would not know this. Good girls take the boy home. The family is not checking out his six pack. They are checking out his family and bank account. Better go back to Holland where your view of reality is closer to the truth.

I agree with you and think you are correct in most parts of the West. But in Thailand you are totally wrong. There is a reason why so many old men come here as opposed to Poland and the Ukraine.

I think i am still right.. those guys you are talking about don't hunt for poor isarn girls like the foreigners do. They are hunting for girls of equal status. So yes there will be looked if status is comparable between the two. So its more physical attraction because there is not a big income gap.

Girls don't have a choice. The family chooses. It is based 100% on business. Especially if the family is part hi so Chinese. That is the way it has always been in Asia. The women are used to keep business deals together. It makes no difference what the man looks like. Old, young, handsome or ugly; nobody cares. That is why the mia noi thing is so important. If the guy has to marry an ugly woman because of business no problem because he can have a mia noi. Muscles are not big in Asia. Family, money, brains are big.

robblok · June 15, 2012

You are trying to ignore the looks part here. I just showed some studies looks do in fact count for a lot. You can have all the status that you want but if you look bad they wont want you unless you have even more money and then its only money.

For the educated good looking Thai guys its a combination of looks and status. If one is missing the other needs to be exponentially higher. But then you get someone only going for money and then we are again at the point its only about money and you attract bad girls.

The higher the status the more the family is involved; the more money is involved. This is Thailand. This is Asia. Family is more important here. I am struck that you would not know this. Good girls take the boy home. The family is not checking out his six pack. They are checking out his family and bank account. Better go back to Holland where your view of reality is closer to the truth.

I agree with you and think you are correct in most parts of the West. But in Thailand you are totally wrong. There is a reason why so many old men come here as opposed to Poland and the Ukraine.

I think i am still right.. those guys you are talking about don't hunt for poor isarn girls like the foreigners do. They are hunting for girls of equal status. So yes there will be looked if status is comparable between the two. So its more physical attraction because there is not a big income gap.

Girls don't have a choice. The family chooses. It is based 100% on business. Especially if the family is part hi so Chinese. That is the way it has always been in Asia. The women are used to keep business deals together. It makes no difference what the man looks like. Old, young, handsome or ugly; nobody cares. That is why the mia noi thing is so important. If the guy has to marry an ugly woman because of business no problem because he can have a mia noi. Muscles are not big in Asia. Family, money, brains are big.

What's with the muscle thing ? We are talking here about Asian guys they aren't muscular in general. The guy has lots of say in here and we were about young good looking Thai guys (your own account) now your changing it again. If he is young he would hardly go with a toddler. So there is no age gap, they are both in the same income group. So looks will be important all other things are the same.

Your constantly trying to change your story (among things going to young thai guys then changing them to old thai guys ect) to fit your thoughts while im constantly proving you wrong.

We were talking about farangs using money to get girls and then complaining the girls were after money and saying all thai girls are bad and after money. While with the initial action of using money to impress them he attracts the kind he hates.

robblok · June 15, 2012

I think i am still right.. those guys you are talking about don't hunt for poor isarn girls like the foreigners do. They are hunting for girls of equal status. So yes there will be looked if status is comparable between the two. So its more physical attraction because there is not a big income gap.

You believe the foreigners coming here to hunt for 'poor Isaan girls' have higher status ......... really?

Where the hell did you read that ? The mind is a funny thing please use it different next time.

kerryk · June 15, 2012

The higher the status the more the family is involved; the more money is involved. This is Thailand. This is Asia. Family is more important here. I am struck that you would not know this. Good girls take the boy home. The family is not checking out his six pack. They are checking out his family and bank account. Better go back to Holland where your view of reality is closer to the truth.

I agree with you and think you are correct in most parts of the West. But in Thailand you are totally wrong. There is a reason why so many old men come here as opposed to Poland and the Ukraine.

I think i am still right.. those guys you are talking about don't hunt for poor isarn girls like the foreigners do. They are hunting for girls of equal status. So yes there will be looked if status is comparable between the two. So its more physical attraction because there is not a big income gap.

Girls don't have a choice. The family chooses. It is based 100% on business. Especially if the family is part hi so Chinese. That is the way it has always been in Asia. The women are used to keep business deals together. It makes no difference what the man looks like. Old, young, handsome or ugly; nobody cares. That is why the mia noi thing is so important. If the guy has to marry an ugly woman because of business no problem because he can have a mia noi. Muscles are not big in Asia. Family, money, brains are big.

What's with the muscle thing ? We are talking here about Asian guys they aren't muscular in general. The guy has lots of say in here and we were about young good looking Thai guys (your own account) now your changing it again. If he is young he would hardly go with a toddler. So there is no age gap, they are both in the same income group. So looks will be important all other things are the same.

Your constantly trying to change your story (among things going to young thai guys then changing them to old thai guys ect) to fit your thoughts while im constantly proving you wrong.

We were talking about farangs using money to get girls and then complaining the girls were after money and saying all thai girls are bad and after money. While with the initial action of using money to impress them he attracts the kind he hates.

I think you are accurate for Western women. They may in general be shallow and trite and would notice appearance more readily than Thai women. Thai women on the other hand are deeper and have an ability to look beyond surface issues and would be more concerned about ethics, morality, education, intelligence and cash in the bank.

You are talking about Farangs using money; to get girls. I am talking about Thai men; 99% of them using money to get girls. It becomes less important the lower in class that you go.

In other words Issan bar girls will marry a poor Thai motorcycle driver when a hi so educated woman would never think of such a thing.

So I guess in one sense you are correct. The lower in class you go in Thailand the less cash the Thai woman will be satisfied with. A poor bar girl would take a good looking poor guy. As opposed to a rich college educated woman who would never marry a poor low class man regardless of his looks.

robblok · June 15, 2012

I think you are accurate for Western women. They may in general be shallow and trite and would notice appearance more readily than Thai women. Thai women on the other hand are deeper and have an ability to look beyond surface issues and would be more concerned about ethics, morality, education, intelligence and cash in the bank.

You are talking about Farangs using money; to get girls. I am talking about Thai men; 99% of them using money to get girls. It becomes less important the lower in class that you go.

In other words Issan bar girls will marry a poor Thai motorcycle driver when a hi so educated woman would never think of such a thing.

So I guess in one sense you are correct. The lower in class you go in Thailand the less cash the Thai woman will be satisfied with. A poor bar girl would take a good looking poor guy. As opposed to a rich college educated woman who would never marry a poor low class man regardless of his looks.

Im not going to discuss how shallow western girls are or how smart Thai woman are. Its a trap i wont step into. Sorry better luck next time but nice try.

Of course an Issan bar girl would marry a poor Thai motorcycle driver and a hi so would not. Different class al together. Looks are one thing but certainly not everything. I am saying given equal satus ect looks count for something. I wont say looks will cancel all other things out. Its simply nott true.

But if your but ugly (be it because your much older then the girl or fat or just ugly) you will have to employ more other things to make up for it. I think by using money your opening yourself up and getting the wrong kind of girls. If you use your charm and wit you will attract an other kind of woman.

Looks always count for something as do wit charm intelligence ect. I know that even for men this is true while we are far more visual. I prefer smarter girls over barbydolls (at least for relations shagging is a different story) How much those other things count is open for debate but if your lacking in one department you need to make up in an other. Just stating that by using money you get the wrong kind of girls.

kerryk · June 15, 2012

I think you are accurate for Western women. They may in general be shallow and trite and would notice appearance more readily than Thai women. Thai women on the other hand are deeper and have an ability to look beyond surface issues and would be more concerned about ethics, morality, education, intelligence and cash in the bank.

You are talking about Farangs using money; to get girls. I am talking about Thai men; 99% of them using money to get girls. It becomes less important the lower in class that you go.

In other words Issan bar girls will marry a poor Thai motorcycle driver when a hi so educated woman would never think of such a thing.

So I guess in one sense you are correct. The lower in class you go in Thailand the less cash the Thai woman will be satisfied with. A poor bar girl would take a good looking poor guy. As opposed to a rich college educated woman who would never marry a poor low class man regardless of his looks.

Im not going to discuss how shallow western girls are or how smart Thai woman are. Its a trap i wont step into. Sorry better luck next time but nice try.

Of course an Issan bar girl would marry a poor Thai motorcycle driver and a hi so would not. Different class al together. Looks are one thing but certainly not everything. I am saying given equal satus ect looks count for something. I wont say looks will cancel all other things out. Its simply nott true.

But if your but ugly (be it because your much older then the girl or fat or just ugly) you will have to employ more other things to make up for it. I think by using money your opening yourself up and getting the wrong kind of girls. If you use your charm and wit you will attract an other kind of woman.

Looks always count for something as do wit charm intelligence ect. I know that even for men this is true while we are far more visual. I prefer smarter girls over barbydolls (at least for relations shagging is a different story) How much those other things count is open for debate but if your lacking in one department you need to make up in an other. Just stating that by using money you get the wrong kind of girls.

Of course I was kidding you. Shallow trite people regardless of national origin tend to evaluate other people based on surface qualities. Your whole argument, that is, that good looking people spend less money to get women in Thailand is shallow and trite.

One would expect it from an adolescent but hardly something an adult would propose.

robblok · June 15, 2012

@Kerry because you don't want something to be true

Economists at the University of Texas-Austin, led by Daniel Hamermesh, are fascinated with beautiful people. Guess that doesn’t make them unique. What’s special is that these economists have been analyzing years of surveys to determine correlations between appearance, income, and happiness. In early studies, Hamermesh and his team have pointed out that more attractive people tend to make more money and pair off with more attractive spouses

Read more: http://moneyland.time.com/2011/03/30/why-are-beautiful-people-happier-mainly-because-good-lucks-help-them-get-rich/#ixzz1xrkGD7zH

Just for your information i dont consider myself beautiful. But just because i don't fit into that group does not make me exclude the facts like you seem to do.

eek · June 15, 2012

I for one, would happily marry a fat, balding, old, but rich lady of any nationality.

So..if you were a fit, young, sexy man and this was your partner...would you think she might be being unrealistic if she believed you were only with her out of love..?

Edited June 15, 2012 by eek

kerryk · June 15, 2012

@Kerry because you don't want something to be true

Economists at the University of Texas-Austin, led by Daniel Hamermesh, are fascinated with beautiful people. Guess that doesn’t make them unique. What’s special is that these economists have been analyzing years of surveys to determine correlations between appearance, income, and happiness. In early studies, Hamermesh and his team have pointed out that more attractive people tend to make more money and pair off with more attractive spouses

Read more: http://moneyland.tim.../#ixzz1xrkGD7zH

Just for your information i dont consider myself beautiful. But just because i don't fit into that group does not make me exclude the facts like you seem to do.

When you all get some surveys from Thailand let me know. Until then I will assume Thailand is unique in its love of older wealthy gentlemen as evidenced by the hoards who retire here.

robblok · June 15, 2012

@Kerry because you don't want something to be true

Economists at the University of Texas-Austin, led by Daniel Hamermesh, are fascinated with beautiful people. Guess that doesn’t make them unique. What’s special is that these economists have been analyzing years of surveys to determine correlations between appearance, income, and happiness. In early studies, Hamermesh and his team have pointed out that more attractive people tend to make more money and pair off with more attractive spouses

Read more: http://moneyland.tim.../#ixzz1xrkGD7zH

Just for your information i dont consider myself beautiful. But just because i don't fit into that group does not make me exclude the facts like you seem to do.

When you all get some surveys from Thailand let me know. Until then I will assume Thailand is unique in its love of older wealthy gentlemen as evidenced by the hoards who retire here.

Good Kerry, i have been coming up with studies proof and all such things. So far you produced nothing. Just shows me the strength of your arguments.

Im getting bored with this, anyway you wont change your mind. I wont either lets call it quits.

kerryk · June 15, 2012

You did provide some surveys. None of them covered your main points, “The Thai beauty ideal is not an aging balding faring carrying a few kg's too much around.... They love to think they are so great but in the end the only thing they got going for them is their wallet.”

Like you said, “Like a said before exceptions don't discredit a general rule.”

I wonder why young men feel driven to pound home this rather boring point over and over again?

DP25 · June 15, 2012

After your third marriage it is a good time to come to Thailand. You won’t have to justify all the good looking Thai ladies marrying old guys when you are old too.

Where do these old farang guys hide their good looking Thai ladies? Are the women I see most of them with just decoys? Any Thai will tell you, farang men, especially old ones, do not have a reputation for dating attractive women. Quite the opposite stereotype actually. One of the most common questions I get from Thais is what the hell is wrong farang men when it comes to women.

kerryk · June 16, 2012

After your third marriage it is a good time to come to Thailand. You won’t have to justify all the good looking Thai ladies marrying old guys when you are old too.

Where do these old farang guys hide their good looking Thai ladies? Are the women I see most of them with just decoys? Any Thai will tell you, farang men, especially old ones, do not have a reputation for dating attractive women. Quite the opposite stereotype actually. One of the most common questions I get from Thais is what the hell is wrong farang men when it comes to women.

I don't think the old guys are as effected by the racial stereotypes of white being good and bronze being bad as the young guys are. The old guys look at personality rather than skin color to determine suitability in a mate.

Old guys being financially fixed and not dependent on bigoted Thai people for income don't really have to listen the typical Thai racial diatribes.

I find most of my Thai friends are not as racially motivated as the Thais working in the bar industry. My suggestion would be to find some educated and more forward thinking Thai friends.

NanLaew · June 16, 2012

The OP was lamenting why this post was moved from General to Pub along with another, similar thread. The post has managed to get to a couple of pages on a 'done to death' subject so was he expecting more input if it had remained in General? Or maybe find someone who would agree with him? Why does the OP think that his reasoning, be it either flawed or dazzlingly precise, make any serious fisherman consider sticking his fishing pole in another pool? Why the crusade? Leave the old, fat, bald buggers alone will you?

To be honest, the Mods were quite incorrect in moving this one to the Pub. It should have been culled at birth like the whining seal cub that it is.

Headgame · June 16, 2012

I get so tired, no exhausted about all the age bigotry generally displayed by the younger dudes on this forum. I also get disgusted by the "my Thai lady is better than yours because ......... arguments.

I pray that you all return to this forum when you are 68 like I am and provide your opinions. I think there will be a different attitude.

I resent the stereotypical, fat, balding, loser "old guy" description. No doubt, like all stereotypes, it's based on some facts but I am not fat, not bald, not a loser and quite willing and able to do whatever I want to do.

I am growing old disgracefully, so there!!!

Edited June 16, 2012 by Headgame

robblok · June 16, 2012

I get so tired, no exhausted about all the age bigotry generally displayed by the younger dudes on this forum. I also get disgusted by the "my Thai lady is better than yours because ......... arguments.

I pray that you all return to this forum when you are 68 like I am and provide your opinions. I think there will be a different attitude.

I resent the stereotypical, fat, balding, loser "old guy" description. No doubt, like all stereotypes, it's based on some facts but I am not fat, not bald, not a loser and quite willing and able to do whatever I want to do.

I am growing old disgracefully, so there!!!

You can have your fun, i don't care. But the old fat stereo type does apply to many foreigners here. Just do e headcount once in a while and you will be surprised.

But people seem to miss the point here, point is if you fish with money as bait don't be suprised if it is the only reason they are with you. Then you got guys here saying all Thai girls are hookers and all Thai girls are bad. This is simply not true, its just the girls that are in it for the money. And those guys attract those girls.

If you get screwed by girls like that and accept its your own bloody fault then you wont hear anything from me. But if you use that experience to tar all girls with the same brush then yea ill complain.

robblok · June 16, 2012

The OP was lamenting why this post was moved from General to Pub along with another, similar thread. The post has managed to get to a couple of pages on a 'done to death' subject so was he expecting more input if it had remained in General? Or maybe find someone who would agree with him? Why does the OP think that his reasoning, be it either flawed or dazzlingly precise, make any serious fisherman consider sticking his fishing pole in another pool? Why the crusade? Leave the old, fat, bald buggers alone will you?

To be honest, the Mods were quite incorrect in moving this one to the Pub. It should have been culled at birth like the whining seal cub that it is.

There are people who agree with me, usually the younger guys in non pay for play relationships.Though I got the demography of the forum stacked against me (ie loads of older expats) I dont care where you stick your pole, i just get fed up with the negatives from people who get cheated by the very kind of girls they attract and call al Thai girls bad for that reason.

TommoPhysicist · June 16, 2012

But people seem to miss the point here, point is if you fish with money as bait don't be suprised if it is the only reason they are with you. Then you got guys here saying all Thai girls are hookers and all Thai girls are bad. This is simply not true, its just the girls that are in it for the money. And those guys attract those girls.

The only men who don't fish with money as bait, are the men that don't have any money.

You have also made an illogical connection ... who says hookers are bad ..... only you.

I enjoy the company of Thai bar girls (not as a customer) all attractive women who will happily smile and flirt with me, my SIL works as a BG in Pattaya, great girl, always a barrel of laughs, introduced me to my wife. Some girls are bad, some girls are good, as far as I can tell, their occupations don't show much correlation with their negative personality traits. (for this discussion can we agree good = don't steal, scam or make false accusations and bad = do steal, scam and make false accusations)

It's actually quite hard to define concepts of 'good' and 'bad' that suit all situations and nationalities, I know some posters think of lying as 'bad' but really what harm does it do? I also know some posters think multiple boyfriends as 'bad' but again, is it really?

My wife, as a Thai, would list a totally different set of things as 'bad' to most foreigners. Bad, to her, would prominently include drinking alcohol, smoking, not making merit.

Edited June 16, 2012 by TommoPhysicist

robblok · June 16, 2012

But people seem to miss the point here, point is if you fish with money as bait don't be suprised if it is the only reason they are with you. Then you got guys here saying all Thai girls are hookers and all Thai girls are bad. This is simply not true, its just the girls that are in it for the money. And those guys attract those girls.

The only men who don't fish with money as bait, are the men that don't have any money.

You have also made an illogical connection ... who says hookers are bad ..... only you.

I enjoy the company of Thai bar girls, my SIL works as a BG in Pattaya, great girl, always a barrel of laughs, introduced me to my wife. Some girls are bad, some girls are good, as far as I can tell, their occupations don't show much connection with their personality traits. (for this discussion can we agree good = don't steal or scam and bad = do steal and scam)

I have read some of your replies on how you think of Thai woman, totally different from what you are writing here. You are one of those guys who irks me on your view of Thai woman. I am not the only one in that thread you got your ass kicked.

As for hookers being bad, i think there is a higher percentage of bad ones there then in the general population.

As for only guys fishing with money for girls. Id say your wrong there too only guys with no other assets will use money for getting girls. (im no saint paid for woman too and have no problem with hookers). I just wont use it for getting GF's because i require different things from GF's then from hookers.

kerryk · June 16, 2012

Robblok, At least you are getting honest with your feelings. "old fat stereo type does apply to many foreigners here."

Actually in reading Thai experiences in the last 10 years I find the most frequent sad stories come from 1. Ex pat workers who live only part time in Thailand and 2. Young guys trying to make it on the small wages available from teaching here.

Maybe just me but the guys with the big Western pay packages here and the old retired guys who live here full time seem pretty happy to me (at least the ones I know).

The saddest story on TV I have read in a year was that young guy in Bangkok who lost his wife and child to an old football coach from the West.

I realize the young guys have a problem with money, visas and the general perception of Thai women that older guys are a better long term deal. I certainly would not recommend anyone hook up with a Thai lady unless he is of sound of mind and body, cash in the bank and at least 40 years experience with women of a variety of nationalities.

robblok · June 16, 2012

Robblok, At least you are getting honest with your feelings. "old fat stereo type does apply to many foreigners here."

Actually in reading Thai experiences in the last 10 years I find the most frequent sad stories come from 1. Ex pat workers who live only part time in Thailand and 2. Young guys trying to make it on the small wages available from teaching here.

Maybe just me but the guys with the big Western pay packages here and the old retired guys who live here full time seem pretty happy to me (at least the ones I know).

The saddest story on TV I have read in a year was that young guy in Bangkok who lost his wife and child to an old football coach from the West.

I realize the young guys have a problem with money, visas and the general perception of Thai women that older guys are a better long term deal. I certainly would not recommend anyone hook up with a Thai lady unless he is of sound of mind and body, cash in the bank and at least 40 years experience with women of a variety of nationalities.

Your quite right most young guys have problems staying here and have money problems. Others like me have no such problems. Does not mean your rule of thumb is not true.

Your quite hang up on the old fat thing, i don't vision you like fat (mr soda) old maybe but that cant be helped as we all age. But you certainly know the type i am talking about. It still flies because in general Thailand gets the dredges of society to visit it.

If i were to take a slice of the general Dutch population an the general foreigner population in Thailand. I can guarantee that there are far more looser and ugly foreigners here then in the general Dutch or English or USA population. I accept this but I don't think im a looser nor that everyone here is a looser. But that does not make the rule any less valid.

In general guys are older here (for reasons you mentioned) and a lot less in shape because of all the bars and drinking. I don't understand people get so offended by it.

TommoPhysicist · June 16, 2012

I have read some of your replies on how you think of Thai woman, totally different from what you are writing here. You are one of those guys who irks me on your view of Thai woman. I am not the only one in that thread you got your ass kicked.

I reckon it was about 50/50 (go back and count)

The young and inexperienced sided with you, the older and experienced sided with me.

The main difference was the young and inexperienced tend to resort to nasty and vicious personal attacks, I guess they think god was on their side.

robblok · June 16, 2012

I have read some of your replies on how you think of Thai woman, totally different from what you are writing here. You are one of those guys who irks me on your view of Thai woman. I am not the only one in that thread you got your ass kicked.

I reckon it was about 50/50 (go back and count)

The young and inexperienced sided with you, the older and experienced sided with me.

The main difference was the young and inexperienced tend to resort to nasty and vicious personal attacks, I guess they think god was on their side.

Because the older ones are the ones paying for sex and meeting the wrong kinds of girls. That is the whole thing im trying to explain here. Different ponds my friend. Maybe if you had lived here when you were younger and met different kinds of girls. I know that no matter how long i live here now i have the experience that i have now.

We can do an easy test, you go into a upscale pub in BKK (you know where girls have money) with a friend of mine and see who comes out with a normal girl. The guy is 26 and handsome. That would kinda prove my point.

DP25 · June 16, 2012

I get so tired, no exhausted about all the age bigotry generally displayed by the younger dudes on this forum. I also get disgusted by the "my Thai lady is better than yours because ......... arguments.

I pray that you all return to this forum when you are 68 like I am and provide your opinions. I think there will be a different attitude.

I resent the stereotypical, fat, balding, loser "old guy" description. No doubt, like all stereotypes, it's based on some facts but I am not fat, not bald, not a loser and quite willing and able to do whatever I want to do.

I am growing old disgracefully, so there!!!

I'm fine with seeing older guys happy and in a relationship with a woman. Or with multiple women. I look forward to dating someone half my age someday. I think most younger guys feel the same way.

It's just some posters who make these sweeping generalizations and ridiculous comments that annoy.

robblok · June 16, 2012

I get so tired, no exhausted about all the age bigotry generally displayed by the younger dudes on this forum. I also get disgusted by the "my Thai lady is better than yours because ......... arguments.

I pray that you all return to this forum when you are 68 like I am and provide your opinions. I think there will be a different attitude.

I resent the stereotypical, fat, balding, loser "old guy" description. No doubt, like all stereotypes, it's based on some facts but I am not fat, not bald, not a loser and quite willing and able to do whatever I want to do.

I am growing old disgracefully, so there!!!

I'm fine with seeing older guys happy and in a relationship with a woman. Or with multiple women. I look forward to dating someone half my age someday. I think most younger guys feel the same way.

It's just some posters who make these sweeping generalizations and ridiculous comments that annoy.

No problems at all with guys like that. But don't start with sweeping generalizations ect when you get burned because you got the wrong kind of girl. Just accept then its your own fault too.

kerryk · June 16, 2012

I get so tired, no exhausted about all the age bigotry generally displayed by the younger dudes on this forum. I also get disgusted by the "my Thai lady is better than yours because ......... arguments.

I pray that you all return to this forum when you are 68 like I am and provide your opinions. I think there will be a different attitude.

I resent the stereotypical, fat, balding, loser "old guy" description. No doubt, like all stereotypes, it's based on some facts but I am not fat, not bald, not a loser and quite willing and able to do whatever I want to do.

I am growing old disgracefully, so there!!!

I'm fine with seeing older guys happy and in a relationship with a woman. Or with multiple women. I look forward to dating someone half my age someday. I think most younger guys feel the same way.

It's just some posters who make these sweeping generalizations and ridiculous comments that annoy.

No problems at all with guys like that. But don't start with sweeping generalizations ect when you get burned because you got the wrong kind of girl. Just accept then its your own fault too.

I have never read any sweeping generalizations here from old men about younger Thai women (except to say they are nice). All the ones I have read are from young men either about age appropriate women or about old men taking all the good looking young women. Your original argument is flawed because your real purpose was to tell older men that they can't get quality women like you can because you are young. Over and over again you are telling us that we pay for bad quality women and you don't. Why? Because you are young and we are old.

Old men from Holland come to Thailand to find young women. Young men from Holland stay in Holland and find young women.

When I was 25 I married a beauty queen from Texas. At 65 I married a beauty queen from Issan. Why do you think that is?

Headgame · June 16, 2012

I have read some of your replies on how you think of Thai woman, totally different from what you are writing here. You are one of those guys who irks me on your view of Thai woman. I am not the only one in that thread you got your ass kicked.

I reckon it was about 50/50 (go back and count)

The young and inexperienced sided with you, the older and experienced sided with me.

The main difference was the young and inexperienced tend to resort to nasty and vicious personal attacks, I guess they think god was on their side.

Because the older ones are the ones paying for sex and meeting the wrong kinds of girls. That is the whole thing im trying to explain here. Different ponds my friend. Maybe if you had lived here when you were younger and met different kinds of girls. I know that no matter how long i live here now i have the experience that i have now.

We can do an easy test, you go into a upscale pub in BKK (you know where girls have money) with a friend of mine and see who comes out with a normal girl. The guy is 26 and handsome. That would kinda prove my point.

I don't know what Thailand you live in when you say "the older ones are the ones paying for sex". I've seen a lot of fat, balding young guys (I think many from Holland) doing just that.

And really, the wrong kinds of girls? Duh.

BTW, I bet if I went with your handsome young friend (surprised you didn't offer yourself up for this test) to an upscale pub in BKK that we would both leave with "normal" girls.

Edited June 16, 2012 by Headgame

TommoPhysicist · June 16, 2012

And really, the wrong kinds of girls? Duh.

Ladyboys?

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