Britain'S Olympic Football Thread

[dave111223]

GB Olympic Football Crests

I have not heard it mentioned or debated anywhere else; but does no one else think the British Olympic football team badge is very odd?

The Great Britain football team is wearing a plain white crest with a dark blue lion’s head logo and some Olympic rings with text “Team GB London 2012″. I think this logo really cheapens the team; it looks a like a logo that a pub team might wear in a one-off testimonial friendly match. It screams to me “we just threw this pick-up team together for a bit of a laugh”....

http://blog.soccershirtsonline.com/gb-olympic-football-crests/

[tw25rw]

GB Olympic Football Crests

I have not heard it mentioned or debated anywhere else; but does no one else think the British Olympic football team badge is very odd?

The Great Britain football team is wearing a plain white crest with a dark blue lion’s head logo and some Olympic rings with text “Team GB London 2012″. I think this logo really cheapens the team; it looks a like a logo that a pub team might wear in a one-off testimonial friendly match. It screams to me “we just threw this pick-up team together for a bit of a laugh”....

http://blog.soccersh...ootball-crests/

It's the 'Team GB' crest as used in all the sports..

[dave111223]

It's the 'Team GB' crest as used in all the sports..

And i hate it...why now use the flag?

[mrbojangles]

Team GB have beaten Uruguay to finish top of the group and go through to face Soth Korea in the quarters.

[bangkokrick]

Team GB have beaten Uruguay to finish top of the group and go through to face Soth Korea in the quarters.

They put in a great performance and deserved to win. All of a sudden we can pass the ball and we had the majority of the possession. I just hope that some people on this board can actually get behind our team and stop all the knocking.

[nontabury]

Yes, they should not be there, simple as that, played rubbish anyway! Looking at that display last night me it strikes me that if we should have bothered at all, then it would have been better just to go with an England U21 team who at least have played together before, plus a few oldies like Beckham.

(On a political note, I think it is best Scots leave and pretty soon at that, clearly don't want to be part of it and I think Many Englishman like myself don't want to be associated with them. Sooner that wall goes up the better as far as I'm concened.)

Yes, they should not be there, simple as that, played rubbish anyway! Looking at that display last night me it strikes me that if we should have bothered at all, then it would have been better just to go with an England U21 team who at least have played together before, plus a few oldies like Beckham.

According to a number of opinion polls carried out in the UK this year, there is a larger percent of the English who wish for separation than there are Scots, why do you think that is so.

(On a political note, I think it is best Scots leave and pretty soon at that, clearly don't want to be part of it and I think Many Englishman like myself don't want to be associated with them. Sooner that wall goes up the better as far as I'm concened.)

[MrRed]

Good to see them playing well and as a team with little experience are doing OK,they are hungry for a medal.

Cleverly i hope does not get any injuries as i see this lad as a very important midfielder at United for the coming season.

Well done to Pearce as well for sticking to his guns.

[bangkokrick]

Mr Red i agree we have an awesome midfield. Allan for me is one of the best youngsters that i have seen in a long while. Cleverley goes without saying.

[StevieH]

Anyone else think that the Welsh and Scots who are refusing to sing the National Anthem are out of order.

Doesn't say much for team unity when the captain makes a conscious decision not to sing the Anthem.

You can be sure that David Beckham would have belted it out.

Maybe SP chose the wrong captain.

i was back in the uk last week and there was a lot of discussion about this. i don't see why english people are upset that giggs and bellamy don't sing the english national anthem. they're welsh. when england play wales in an international the england team sing god save the queen. the welsh sing land of my fathers. so why would they sing the english national anthem when they're representing great britain? isn't the fact that they're playing for great britain enough to demonstrate their commitment?

[carmine]

Anyone else think that the Welsh and Scots who are refusing to sing the National Anthem are out of order.

Doesn't say much for team unity when the captain makes a conscious decision not to sing the Anthem.

You can be sure that David Beckham would have belted it out.

Maybe SP chose the wrong captain.

i was back in the uk last week and there was a lot of discussion about this. i don't see why english people are upset that giggs and bellamy don't sing the english national anthem. they're welsh. when england play wales in an international the england team sing god save the queen. the welsh sing land of my fathers. so why would they sing the english national anthem when they're representing great britain? isn't the fact that they're playing for great britain enough to demonstrate their commitment?

Don't think many people have taken much notice what has been going on with team GB football. Why would you bother watching those overpaid t*ssers when you can be inspired by our superb track and fiels athletes, cyclists rowers et al. Apart from enjoying the Brazil games its really put olympic football in its place for me

[MrMuddle]

Team GB have beaten Uruguay to finish top of the group and go through to face Soth Korea in the quarters.

They put in a great performance and deserved to win. All of a sudden we can pass the ball and we had the majority of the possession. I just hope that some people on this board can actually get behind our team and stop all the knocking.

Is this directed at me ?

[marshbags]

Anyone else think that the Welsh and Scots who are refusing to sing the National Anthem are out of order.

Doesn't say much for team unity when the captain makes a conscious decision not to sing the Anthem.

You can be sure that David Beckham would have belted it out.

Maybe SP chose the wrong captain.

i was back in the uk last week and there was a lot of discussion about this. i don't see why english people are upset that giggs and bellamy don't sing the english national anthem. they're welsh. when england play wales in an international the england team sing god save the queen. the welsh sing land of my fathers. so why would they sing the english national anthem when they're representing great britain? isn't the fact that they're playing for great britain enough to demonstrate their commitment?

Great Britain is representative of Scotland Ireland Wales and England.

Committed to what....Failure failure failure at every level they supposedly demonstrate their abilities to.

Until they become totally independant of the U.K. as a whole, including government U.K. funding they can only then maybe justify to bicker and choose why they no longer support our Queen, until then the national anthem should always be God Save The Queen.

It,s a pity Giggsy and co didn,t voice their obvious dislike for our Queen as our representative and in doing so insult the majority who willingly do so and expect the national anthem to be played in recognition of it at all such events.

They are typical of the many own goals been scored in recent times by footballers who were previously respected and great role models to our younger generations.

As for the latest failure in a long line of competions it sums up totally that football depserately needs a huge change in mindset and the investing in our young at school and park level where heart and the genuine love of the game is still in existance.

Money is not a factor in their wanting to play the game, it is still as it always has been for the majority, the love of playing and competing.

Where I come from many felt very angry indeed about the incident viewed by millions all over the world and followed up by the fall out of it all and everyone I know felt let down.

Giggsy by the way has a cheek when it comes to spouting off about Wales when you consider how much he has been involved in team and all of a sudden doing what he did and supposedly wanting to recognise who he represents.

Add to this he has spent his footballing career here in England and has everything he has achieved thanks his English connections via Manchester Utd and our once beloved English football and the mega milions invested in so many of the self only first players of the game.

How many millions have been pumpted, invested and wasted to alledgedly improve our national ( English ) football team / game have and failed. ( and incidently that,s why we have once again got SFA to show for it all. )

The rest of the GB Olympic Team have by comparison been given little while achieving so much more between them.

For anyone who has been watching all the other aspects of games and the notable successes, it is evident just how much greater the input from lovers of sport and the taking part would have been if the millions were invested in them instead of being wasted on football.

How insignificant football has shown to be over the last few days, sure their are the die hard footie fans who have continued to watch it, but it has by way of overall interest left the front pages from the word go and apart from the offensive National Anthem issue, gradually sunk to the level of annonaminity it deserves, based purely on achieving and achievement.alone if nothing else.

It is long overdue that a complete change regarding what the genuine love of football and all the decent things that should be associated with it are or shoud be about, using the park football concept as a starter and all in incorporates.

IMO of course.

marshbags

[carmine]

Ryan Giggs the captain of team GB and Terry the former captain of england.

Blame the idiot that chose them and the idiots that stood by the decision.

As far as the national anthem goes, they are footballers and probably don't know the words and are not bright enough to learn them

[mrbojangles]

Beaten by South Korea on penalties (again). Daniel-super sized head-Sturridge the only one to not score. That's that then.

[MrRed]

I enjoyed most of the games played by the under 23's,about singing the national anthem......i don't sing it because i can't sing and also it is true that most do not know the national anthem in full especially the younger players.

A lot of the athletes i have seen coolecting medal's also have not sung the anthem.

A great night last evening and 3rd in the Olympic table at present is a stunning performance from team GB with more to come

[StevieH]

Anyone else think that the Welsh and Scots who are refusing to sing the National Anthem are out of order.

Doesn't say much for team unity when the captain makes a conscious decision not to sing the Anthem.

You can be sure that David Beckham would have belted it out.

Maybe SP chose the wrong captain.

i was back in the uk last week and there was a lot of discussion about this. i don't see why english people are upset that giggs and bellamy don't sing the english national anthem. they're welsh. when england play wales in an international the england team sing god save the queen. the welsh sing land of my fathers. so why would they sing the english national anthem when they're representing great britain? isn't the fact that they're playing for great britain enough to demonstrate their commitment?

Don't think many people have taken much notice what has been going on with team GB football. Why would you bother watching those overpaid t*ssers when you can be inspired by our superb track and fiels athletes, cyclists rowers et al. Apart from enjoying the Brazil games its really put olympic football in its place for me

yeah couldn't agree more with this. jessica ennis, mo farah et al yesterday showed footballers up for what they really are.

[MrMuddle]

I enjoyed most of the games played by the under 23's,about singing the national anthem......i don't sing it because i can't sing and also it is true that most do not know the national anthem in full especially the younger players.

A lot of the athletes i have seen coolecting medal's also have not sung the anthem.

A great night last evening and 3rd in the Olympic table at present is a stunning performance from team GB with more to come

I don't sing it because I refuse to endorse a song that includes the line "rebellious Scots to crush".

(Google the full version).

However it is a different matter, if you're representing your country, especially as Captain, then you should sing the national anthem, out of respect to the people that are supporting your team. if the players don't know the words then they should bl**dy well learn them, they don't have to sing the anthem in full, just the first verse.

The GB side played 4 games, and had one passably good performance out of the 4, against Uruguay, the rest of the time they were abysmal.

Over the full game and extra time, South Korea were the better team. I agree with what Mr B said above, typical big-headed response from Sturridge, trying to be clever cost him to have his penalty saved.

See my post #29 (above), I was right on everything I said, Richards got injured, Pearce showed he has absolutely no tactical nous, Giggs was a complete waste of time, should never have been picked, in fact at one time I did wonder if Pearce had confused the Olympics with the Ryder Cup, and had selected a non-playing captain.

[marshbags]

Anyone else think that the Welsh and Scots who are refusing to sing the National Anthem are out of order.

Doesn't say much for team unity when the captain makes a conscious decision not to sing the Anthem.

You can be sure that David Beckham would have belted it out.

Maybe SP chose the wrong captain.

i was back in the uk last week and there was a lot of discussion about this. i don't see why english people are upset that giggs and bellamy don't sing the english national anthem. they're welsh. when england play wales in an international the england team sing god save the queen. the welsh sing land of my fathers. so why would they sing the english national anthem when they're representing great britain? isn't the fact that they're playing for great britain enough to demonstrate their commitment?

Don't think many people have taken much notice what has been going on with team GB football. Why would you bother watching those overpaid t*ssers when you can be inspired by our superb track and fiels athletes, cyclists rowers et al. Apart from enjoying the Brazil games its really put olympic football in its place for me

yeah couldn't agree more with this. jessica ennis, mo farah et al yesterday showed footballers up for what they really are.

I genuinely reckon this is a good post the comment plus the addition of the quotes to compliment it, sum up my thoughts and compliment each other in their content.

Of course it is only right to have freedom of choice if to sing or not.

The difference between this instance and all the others is that they were intent on making what many saw as an uncalled for reference to their place of birth and a blatant refusal / disregard to millions of Team GB supporters and those competing for medals.

They could have done this immediately after being selected for the honour of representing our country / Great Britain, politely, said no and let others more deserving take their places.

Once they did accept they should have had the grace to empathise with the millions of British supporters and not least of all the competitiors themselves who have made huge sacrifices to be in the privileged positions they have made over the last 4 years and beyond.

I would like to add 2 more to names to those mentioned from yesterday, one being Andy Murray ( Scottish of course ) who having as of yet failed to win a grand slam has in his words won the biggest prize of all anyone could win and in doing so has beaten two of the very players who,s brilliance has always been to good on the day for even his talent..

Then a silver to go with it with young Laura.

The other Caitriona Jennings ( Irish ) didn,t win the gold and in fact came last in her chosen discipline the Ladies Marathon.

How inspirational her struggle to keep going and actually finish the course this is what these games are all about, even with all the hardships and injuries, all the competitors have managed to overcome and still desperately wanting to represent their beloved GB in this Olympic year, and keep going in times like these is a great role model for all the young people out there to learn from.

Both are proud to be a part of team GB and unlike the 3 footie players, recognise the privilege of being chosen to represent everyone one of us, when they took part.

All the spectators can take a bow as well for staying behind to give her encouragement and much needed support.

If only footie could become a collective part of what it means to be a good role model to everyone and not using it as a platform for individual ideoligise ect. when chosen to represent us.

It,s wonderful that even with so much at stake no one is or has been trying to cripple their opponents, curse them on the arena of play or try be all means foul to prevent them winning.

Nor have the spectators / fans / supporters.

To sportingly and genuinely recognise being beaten by a better opponent as paramount, followed by genuine heart warming congratulations they have earned through fair open competition is truly brilliant.

When was the last time you witnessed that at a football game ?

What a lesson the self important, greedy, racially abusive players of football could learn from it instead of using derogatory cursing ect. ect. to wind fellow competitors up.

Let them start by implementing the standards as they used to be in times gone by, but not to long ago…( World Cup 1966 for one example ) top to bottom and enforced within the regulations and governance from a new body of officials while gettting rid of the present system before it destroys itself and implodes completely.

marshbags

[StevieH]

Of course it is only right to have freedom of choice if to sing or not.

The difference between this instance and all the others is that they were intent on making what many saw as an uncalled for reference to their place of birth and a blatant refusal / disregard to millions of Team GB supporters and those competing for medals.

They could have done this immediately after being selected for the honour of representing our country / Great Britain, politely, said no and let others more deserving take their places.

no, see i still disagree with this. 'god save the queen' is the english national anthem. the welsh have a different one. it's also a particularly pro-monarchist song. it's possible to be proud of playing football for the great britain team at the olympics while disagreeing with the concept of a hereditary monarchy and also while acknowledging that the song is the english national anthem anyway.

the minute you start demanding or forcing people to sing a particular anthem you start to sound a bit like north korea.

[mrbojangles]

Pretty much sums up my view Marshbags. Every other competitor in the other sports are happy to represent GB at the Olympics. After this one, I'll be happy not to see Team GB Football again, at another Olympics.

[marshbags]

Of course it is only right to have freedom of choice if to sing or not.

The difference between this instance and all the others is that they were intent on making what many saw as an uncalled for reference to their place of birth and a blatant refusal / disregard to millions of Team GB supporters and those competing for medals.

They could have done this immediately after being selected for the honour of representing our country / Great Britain, politely, said no and let others more deserving take their places.

no, see i still disagree with this. 'god save the queen' is the english national anthem. the welsh have a different one. it's also a particularly pro-monarchist song. it's possible to be proud of playing football for the great britain team at the olympics while disagreeing with the concept of a hereditary monarchy and also while acknowledging that the song is the english national anthem anyway.

the minute you start demanding or forcing people to sing a particular anthem you start to sound a bit like north korea.

No one should demand you sing the national anthem as in freedom to sing or not to sing, nor should they display open resentment prrior to the commencement of play.

It should have been sorted previously prior to the build up and in private, otherwise it becomes unbecoming of the Olympic Ideals and what it is supposed to stand for.

They could have lodged their opposition then and sorted it out.

I guarantee DB would have done it differently, rather than say it wasn,t important it would have been sorted before going out.

Like shaking hands before a game, as if that,s going to make things more friendly and helpful.

Shake after by all means , but certainly before unless you freely wish to do so..

[StevieH]

No one should demand you sing the national anthem as in freedom to sing or not to sing, nor should they display open resentment prrior to the commencement of play.

It should have been sorted previously prior to the build up and in private, otherwise it becomes unbecoming of the Olympic Ideals and what it is supposed to stand for.

They could have lodged their opposition then and sorted it out.

I guarantee DB would have done it differently, rather than sya it wasn,t important..

Like shaking hands before a game, as if that,s going to make things more friendly and helpful.

Shake after by all means , but certainly not before.

don't really understand what this 'open resentment' is.

[mrbojangles]

Of course it is only right to have freedom of choice if to sing or not.

The difference between this instance and all the others is that they were intent on making what many saw as an uncalled for reference to their place of birth and a blatant refusal / disregard to millions of Team GB supporters and those competing for medals.

They could have done this immediately after being selected for the honour of representing our country / Great Britain, politely, said no and let others more deserving take their places.

no, see i still disagree with this. 'god save the queen' is the english national anthem. the welsh have a different one. it's also a particularly pro-monarchist song. it's possible to be proud of playing football for the great britain team at the olympics while disagreeing with the concept of a hereditary monarchy and also while acknowledging that the song is the english national anthem anyway.

the minute you start demanding or forcing people to sing a particular anthem you start to sound a bit like north korea.

From what I have seen Stevie, it's only been the footballers who have had a problem with it.

I also disagree about your view of the national anthem. God Save the Queen is the National Anthem of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. End of, that is exactly what it is.

However, England doesn't have an official national anthem of our own and therefore God Save the Queen is treated as the English national anthem when England are represented at most sporting events. Scotland chop and change, I think they originally had Scotland the Brave and then changed to Flower of Scotland. Wales have Land of My Fathers and Northern Ireland have Danny Boy (don't know the real name). However, hopefully we will have our own English national anthem one day because that one is <deleted> boring. If I remember rightly, did we adopt Jerusalem for the Commonwealth Games.

[StevieH]

Of course it is only right to have freedom of choice if to sing or not.

The difference between this instance and all the others is that they were intent on making what many saw as an uncalled for reference to their place of birth and a blatant refusal / disregard to millions of Team GB supporters and those competing for medals.

They could have done this immediately after being selected for the honour of representing our country / Great Britain, politely, said no and let others more deserving take their places.

no, see i still disagree with this. 'god save the queen' is the english national anthem. the welsh have a different one. it's also a particularly pro-monarchist song. it's possible to be proud of playing football for the great britain team at the olympics while disagreeing with the concept of a hereditary monarchy and also while acknowledging that the song is the english national anthem anyway.

the minute you start demanding or forcing people to sing a particular anthem you start to sound a bit like north korea.

From what I have seen Stevie, it's only been the footballers who have had a problem with it.

I also disagree about your view of the national anthem. God Save the Queen is the National Anthem of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. End of, that is exactly what it is.

However, England doesn't have an official national anthem of our own and therefore God Save the Queen is treated as the English national anthem when England are represented at most sporting events. Scotland chop and change, I think they originally had Scotland the Brave and then changed to Flower of Scotland. Wales have Land of My Fathers and Northern Ireland have Danny Boy (don't know the real name). However, hopefully we will have our own English national anthem one day because that one is <deleted> boring. If I remember rightly, did we adopt Jerusalem for the Commonwealth Games.

doesn't matter what it's treated as boj, it's what england sing when they play matches against wales, scotland or northern ireland. so why would players from those countries sing it when playing under a combined british flag? it's daft.

god save the queen is england's national song. team gb should have sorted this out ages ago and used rule brittania or the excellent land of hope and glory or something.

and this is without even getting into the debate about whether or not any national anthem should be all about the queen. it's perfectly possible to be patriotic and proud of your country while being anti-monarchist and not particularly caring whether god is keeping an eye out for one of the world's richest women.

[carmine]

Of course it is only right to have freedom of choice if to sing or not.

The difference between this instance and all the others is that they were intent on making what many saw as an uncalled for reference to their place of birth and a blatant refusal / disregard to millions of Team GB supporters and those competing for medals.

They could have done this immediately after being selected for the honour of representing our country / Great Britain, politely, said no and let others more deserving take their places.

no, see i still disagree with this. 'god save the queen' is the english national anthem. the welsh have a different one. it's also a particularly pro-monarchist song. it's possible to be proud of playing football for the great britain team at the olympics while disagreeing with the concept of a hereditary monarchy and also while acknowledging that the song is the english national anthem anyway.

the minute you start demanding or forcing people to sing a particular anthem you start to sound a bit like north korea.

From what I have seen Stevie, it's only been the footballers who have had a problem with it.

I also disagree about your view of the national anthem. God Save the Queen is the National Anthem of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. End of, that is exactly what it is.

However, England doesn't have an official national anthem of our own and therefore God Save the Queen is treated as the English national anthem when England are represented at most sporting events. Scotland chop and change, I think they originally had Scotland the Brave and then changed to Flower of Scotland. Wales have Land of My Fathers and Northern Ireland have Danny Boy (don't know the real name). However, hopefully we will have our own English national anthem one day because that one is <deleted> boring. If I remember rightly, did we adopt Jerusalem for the Commonwealth Games.

doesn't matter what it's treated as boj, it's what england sing when they play matches against wales, scotland or northern ireland. so why would players from those countries sing it when playing under a combined british flag? it's daft.

god save the queen is england's national song. team gb should have sorted this out ages ago and used rule brittania or the excellent land of hope and glory or something.

and this is without even getting into the debate about whether or not any national anthem should be all about the queen. it's perfectly possible to be patriotic and proud of your country while being anti-monarchist and not particularly caring whether god is keeping an eye out for one of the world's richest women.

Don't really understand the need for your last line but i agree that the english national anthem is inappropriate. i would not sing land of my fathers or flower of scotland for example. i also think that land of Hope and Glory should have been chosen, they should have then learnt the words and all been told to sing

[smokie36]

A bit of Chas and Dave would have been appropriate.......hard luck to the England and Wales team by the way.

[mrbojangles]

I think we should just use "Vindaloo" for everything from now on.

[mrbojangles]

Double Post

[mrbojangles]

A bit of Chas and Dave would have been appropriate.......hard luck to the England and Wales team by the way.

You mean team GB, smokes. Or are you also splitting up all the other GB medals won by people from Wales, Scotland, NI and England.

Edit:- PS. Who did Andy Murray win the Gold for last night. Team GB or Scotland?

[StevieH]

A bit of Chas and Dave would have been appropriate.......hard luck to the England and Wales team by the way.

now you're talking. bit of rabbit or gertcha.

You mean team GB, smokes. Or are you also splitting up all the other GB medals won by people from Wales, Scotland, NI and England.

Edit:- PS. Who did Andy Murray win the Gold for last night. Team GB or Scotland?

he's british when he wins and he's scottish when he loses. them's the rules according to the uk press.