This is the question so far disallowed in the main forum...

Did you marry a BG....or a Non BG.....tell us how you met and whatever else you want to add.

My own story is that I married a non BG village girl, It didnt work out as she had no interest in it and was basically coerced into it by her folks...

I am now dating a BG who worked daytime in a known Aussie Bar...Yes there are expectations but so far so good....looking forward to her next trip here to see how things go....fingers crossed on this one.

No: I married a lovely cook from a restaurant in Patters. She came to Sports Corner one night with her friends after work, and I fell over her, pissed. Love at first bite.

I have 3 very close mates that I know have married Thai BG's... one couple met in the "3 floors of whores" in Singapore... married several years now, and very very happy together... another couple met in Phuket 18 years ago... she was a mamasan... he was a bar owner... also very happy together, the other couple met in Pattaya 8 years ago... she a BG and he a travelling expat... and also very happy together today.

I can honestly say that none of the respective partners in all 3 relationships appear to be unhappy or wanting something else out of their situations... and I know these guys well.

But... I also know some guys who have got some horror stories to tell.

So... what is it you're asking of us?

Are you asking if a BG who has some exposure to western thinking through her limited exposure to farangs in a bar may be a better match than an unexposed chick who through the grace of Buddha has inherited good looks and caught the eye of a farang who would like to claim her for his own?

Sorry for the lack of punctuation and the cynical response, but I have seen both sides of this scene.

No offense intended Burnsey.

Am I the only yes vote?

Not now Dave.

I voted no, i'm not married...

I'm having too much fun single out here

I am a bit boring, I met my wife in a shop over the other side of the Tagsin Bridge.

well and truly not love at first sight for her.

For Me I was smitten Apart from her looks, it was the very fundamental attitude she has.

voted no, maybe i will vote yes in the future. who gives a shit!

It's about what happens in the here and now and in the future between 2 people that counts. The past cannot be changed so forget it.

This is the only kind of thread that absolutley deserves the "not this <deleted> again" post

I have 3 very close mates that I know have married Thai BG's... one couple met in the "3 floors of whores" in Singapore... married several years now, and very very happy together... another couple met in Phuket 18 years ago...

If I'm not mistaken, I believe it's "Four Floors of Whores."

a duplex of doxies.

six stories of slappers.

i came close to marrying a bg , until i surprised her one afternoon , legs akimbo giving an oil change to a german gent.

eventually met and married my present wife , who was a secretary at a lawyers office.

met lots of falang / bg couples , the rate of success of those relationships seems little different from any other type of western marriages , some work out well , some dont.

deep and meaningful communication must be a big hurdle to overcome , although some have said that the very lack of such communication has been a big advantage and contributed towards the success of the relationship.

I have 3 very close mates that I know have married Thai BG's... one couple met in the "3 floors of whores" in Singapore... married several years now, and very very happy together... another couple met in Phuket 18 years ago...

If I'm not mistaken, I believe it's "Four Floors of Whores."

Whoops...

I've only been there once... and I was ratarsed at the time...

Ching ching.

I wonder how many of the answers are honest?

I have friends that still trot out the line that they met their wives when they were cashiers/waitresses/stall workers, even when the true facts are known by their mates.

I think some of them have even convinced themselves that their "cover story" is true.

"Never underestimate the power of denial". Ricky Fitts - American Beauty

Anybody else know people like this?

I dont care what people have done in their lives as long as I like them as they are now. Theoretically, I could have married a bargirl, had I spent enough time in the bars to find somebody to fall in love with.

Having said that, I do not like the hardened attitude of |some| BG wives/girlfriends I have met. In my experience, more of them seem to be 'paak maa' than Thais in general, and I find that very unattractive.

Then again, one x BG who is my mate's wife, is the sweetest girl you'd ever meet.

Each person deserves to be judged independently and irrespectively of what they have done before.

I wonder how many of the answers are honest?

I have friends that still trot out the line that they met their wives when they were cashiers/waitresses/stall workers, even when the true facts are known by their mates.

I think some of them have even convinced themselves that their "cover story" is true.

"Never underestimate the power of denial". Ricky Fitts - American Beauty

Anybody else know people like this?

Funniest one I heard of was in Australia at the Penthouse club in Sydney.

One one of the very few occasions the place got "Raided" by the local Boys in Blue, turned out one of the police, his wife's sister was working there in the "Full Service" department. She steadfastly claimed she worked as a cashier until that day.

I must say, I wish I had known before, she was a very nice looking piece.

Met my wife in my bar

As the Remington guy says-

"I liked her so much I bought the company" (or similar )

Knew a guy who married a BG out of the Black Cat bar in Soi Cowboy in the early eighties. She got so bored being out of the bar scene that she went back to the bar as a "cashier" to be amongst her friends.

Then she missed the dancing, so, against the wishes of her husband, she started dancing again.

The end result of this sad story, was that if the husband wanted to have sex with his own wife, he had to pay the bar-fine, though I think he got a 50% discount when it came to her fee.

He actually stuck it out for another year before he finally divorced her.

Heres a simlar story, mate of a mate married this girl from one of Lamai's beer/girly bars, got convinced to buy the bar off her sister and it was quite a profitable venture before he come along and took away the star girl in the bar, his wife!

In the end he had a bar going under, and the only thing to save it was to put his wife back to work there, which he obviously would not do even though she begged him to be working again. Everynight he had to deal with punters asking how much his wife was for a shag.

How people end up in these situations, I just don't know.

Anyways, not an 'against bar girl wives story' coz I don't feel that way, but the guys that marry the girls that are still working the 'poles' when they're married I just don't get.

So... what is it you're asking of us?

Are you asking if a BG who has some exposure to western thinking through her limited exposure to farangs in a bar may be a better match than an unexposed chick who through the grace of Buddha has inherited good looks and caught the eye of a farang who would like to claim her for his own?

Sorry for the lack of punctuation and the cynical response, but I have seen both sides of this scene.

No offense intended Burnsey.

Not asking anything from anyone...if they want to vote and add their story then it is fine ..if not then so be it....

Most times on this site these questions have been asked and it gets closed down with the advice to go to Barladies.com which is not suited to this type of question. Now we have (hopefully) a place where people can discuss the BG wife issue without being it being closed down and the OP being suspended or banned.

This is the only kind of thread that absolutley deserves the "not this <deleted> again" post

In this case the access is limited only to a few people...so hopefully we can have a good chat, read some good yarns and have a bit of a laugh with it...without the flaming that previous attempts have been afflicted with.....

many members have been asking for a place where we can discuss this issue...now there is one...lets not spoil the party...

HAd a relationship with a girl who wanted to work while I was there....it was great !!....I could go out on the piss with me mate and carry on a bit. She always made sure that I got my share.....told her if she worked then I was allowed to play too....

Eventually tho it wore me down as that is not what I call a relationship....there were upsides and downsides to it....She eventually went to the UK and had a kid to a guy there....last time I saw her she was back working even though she is still involved with the guy in the UK....she looked very unhappy with her lot tho...

Yet another horror story.

Had a mate who married a Filipina BG. Took her back to NZ and had 3 kids with her.

He was working even time offshore, six weeks on, six weeks off.

While he was away, his cousin went for a nooky sauna and the masseuse was the wife.

She'd been working there on the sly for two years.

Instant divorce and he was a broken man for at least a couple of years. The story got out to his work-site and he had to quit his job due to all the looks askance and nudged elbows.

The missus was never a BG; she did however work as a high-so call girl for US.500/pop

Most times on this site these questions have been asked and it gets closed down with the advice to go to Barladies.com which is not suited to this type of question. Now we have (hopefully) a place where people can discuss the BG wife issue without being it being closed down and the OP being suspended or banned.

Not a problem Burnsey... my comments/queries were made as a TV member, not as a mod... this Forum is totally unmoderated, and you can post/discuss anything you want in here... without fear of being banned or suspended.

Re-read my question... I was referring to a girl that (though her exposure to farangs in the bar scene) might have a better grasp of English, and thus be able to communicate better with farangs than a girl who may never have worked in a bar or an English speaking work environment.

Physical attraction is one thing, but communication is the key to any lasting relationship.

In fact I did not meet my wife in a bar but very easily could have in my early trips to Thailand since that is where new visitors most always go as I did. For guys that do marry girls from the bar, it is of no consequence. Girls that have worked there are just people like you and I and they should not be looked at any differently. No one should be ashamed to admit their wife has worked there IMO. Its totally fine.

The poll results are getting closer...

I can honestly say I have never married a BG but I have had a few honeymoons

I love BG's I really do.

Big respect to those who have married BG's, one of my mates is the happiest man in the world (He's practically rebuilt the entire village and is a living legend)

I'm just not a settling down type of guy. I think it comes from not being financially secure yet. Lets face it, we're not back home, there's no social security system here if the bottom falls out of our world and we all know how true is the addage 'no money, no honey'

Some of the nicest girls I've met have been BG's and some of the craziest, but hey, life's short, I'm in it for the laughs. I do think Thailand has hardened my heart somewhat, yet I don't think that's a bad thing at all.

I remember when I first moved to Phuket, I went with a BG one night and went back to the same bar the following day to get it on again - it was so obviously special for both of us - only to be stopped dead in my tracks as she was sat in the lap of an old bugger of more than 70 with weaping, open sores all over his legs. She was a professional, she made it look like the whole world revolved around him.

Sweet.

I've never forgot that lesson!

I now strive to be that 70 year old guy

Unlike religon which I have absolutely no time for... (any of them-thank God I am a athesist)I do however have a lot of time,respect and hopefully understanding for some of the nicest people ever to come out of Thailand..namely ...the Bar Girls...Lovely LADIES.....and all born survivors.....

Like the non BGs as well....

Re-read my question... I was referring to a girl that (though her exposure to farangs in the bar scene) might have a better grasp of English, and thus be able to communicate better with farangs than a girl who may never have worked in a bar or an English speaking work environment.

Physical attraction is one thing, but communication is the key to any lasting relationship.

I think it does help a lot JD....my first Thai wife couldnt speak English...thats why I learnt to speak, read and write Thai...my current GF has some English skills learnt in part from the bar and also from her Step Dad who is Dutch but speaks English quite well. I have no doubt that this helps the relationship.

When I brought my first wife here, I took her to a mates place....He asked her a simple question and I translated for her....He then said to me " I was talking to her not to you"....I explained that she couldnt understand him and his response was "how can you have a relationship with someone you cant talk to".... I translated that for her and she nearly peed herself laughing....he still didnt get it till I explained to him that I could indeed communicate with her.

Communication is indeed important, it doesnt have to be on the highest level but at least some basic communication is needed.

I love BG's I really do.

Big respect to those who have married BG's, one of my mates is the happiest man in the world (He's practically rebuilt the entire village and is a living legend)

I'm just not a settling down type of guy. I think it comes from not being financially secure yet. Lets face it, we're not back home, there's no social security system here if the bottom falls out of our world and we all know how true is the addage 'no money, no honey'

Some of the nicest girls I've met have been BG's and some of the craziest, but hey, life's short, I'm in it for the laughs. I do think Thailand has hardened my heart somewhat, yet I don't think that's a bad thing at all.

I remember when I first moved to Phuket, I went with a BG one night and went back to the same bar the following day to get it on again - it was so obviously special for both of us - only to be stopped dead in my tracks as she was sat in the lap of an old bugger of more than 70 with weaping, open sores all over his legs. She was a professional, she made it look like the whole world revolved around him.

Sweet.

I've never forgot that lesson!

I now strive to be that 70 year old guy

minus the open sores, of course.....

I agree with Jai Dee that it IS indeed narrowing, when I voted it was 8 to 1.

Had a guy down the street with a similar set-up to Mr. Burns. His "missus" transited about 3 times a week to Pattaya and would come back here with 3-5K per trip (great looker with an established clientele list). He was fully aware of it and quite satisfied to have her 4 nights a week.

He was an intelligent, extremely well-travelled older gentlemen and for awhile was the sole farang I communicated with regularly. (pre-Sriracha-Full-Of-Farang days). They were a very nice married couple I thought... and I only learned of this little quirk ... this little nuance...in their relationship later on. It didn't really change my opinion of them nor the frequency of our visits.... just thought it quite strange. Bottom line, they both seemed genuiniely happy for the 13 months I knew them. He eventually moved back home, but had no regrets on their arrangement.

Physical attraction is one thing, but communication is the key to any lasting relationship.

That would tend to explain the legions of quite elderly gentlemen arm in arm with a 20-somethings. Since they know that they are already on "borrowed time", they aren't interested in any "lasting" relationship.

"Just one more time, Sweetie...and soon, too, please.... as it may be my last."

Had a guy down the street with a similar set-up to Mr. Burns. His "missus" transited about 3 times a week to Pattaya and would come back here with 3-5K per trip (great looker with an established clientele list). He was fully aware of it and quite satisfied to have her 4 nights a week.

He was an intelligent, extremely well-travelled older gentlemen and for awhile was the sole farang I communicated with regularly. (pre-Sriracha-Full-Of-Farang days). They were a very nice married couple I thought... and I only learned of this little quirk ... this little nuance...in their relationship later on. It didn't really change my opinion of them nor the frequency of our visits.... just thought it quite strange. Bottom line, they both seemed genuiniely happy for the 13 months I knew them. He eventually moved back home, but had no regrets on their arrangement.

That's a great story SR, makes me wish I'd met them.

For me, it shows that the road to happiness is shorter if we change our expectations, rather than change the world.