WebBangkok Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I just hit a motorbike in the carpark. The guy has no license and not admitting faiult but I got Thai witnesses with me saying its his faultand got the insurance company on there way... I was just driving straight on the main path and he just came out of the carpark really fast and didnt even look. Him and his gf were lucky as a shoe was under one tire. Im thinking i should win as he doesnt have a license and i got witnesses backing me... What do u think? Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chiang mai Posted December 19, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2012 Let the insurance company rep handle everything, you sit back and chill. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebBangkok Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 yeah thats the plan. Just trying to keep the witnesses by buying them cold drinks Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Let the insurance company rep handle everything, you sit back and chill. Exactly. The witness is a key element in this and has a lot of weight with the police. The insurance person will be the intermediary between you, the other individual and the police. This is assuming the police are involved. This is based on personal experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebBangkok Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just glad i didnt stop a meter later or the girl would have gone under the car... Thats the main thing. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Get a Dashboard Cam, then there won't be an issue anymore who is right and who is wrong More info here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 License or no license is not important, the only difference is a fine for him. Let the insurance handlte things, but be prepared that your insurance may ask you to pay for the accident, provided you have first class insurance and he has no money. It shouldn't happen but it does happen. If you don't want to do that, stick to your guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebBangkok Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Well the wife is on the scene. She is a tough cookie. She got them to admit it lol. She came in blazing and scared everyone. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App Edited December 19, 2012 by WebBangkok 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) There seems to be something somewhere that cars are more guilty as motorbikes. Also, he is Thai, and you are not............. Edited December 19, 2012 by hansnl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WebBangkok Posted December 19, 2012 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2012 Its all good. Insurance guy looked after me well and my wife made him admit it was his fault. Just glad nobody was hurt. Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I find l have my eyes unconsciously glued to every side road or opening cos of whats happened to you. Where l am it really is a daily occurrence, near accident that is, and for the life of me l do not understand the natives logic, as virtually everyone does it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebBangkok Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 Yeah the same. I give way to motorbikes flying in from the sides. but this guy I had no chance as i didnt even see him because of the cars. Some motorbikes just need to learn to look before flying into a road Sent from my GT-I9100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungabunga Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I'm just glad to read that you are all okay and noone hurt. What was the extent of damage to the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebBangkok Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 I'm just glad to read that you are all okay and noone hurt. What was the extent of damage to the car? The damage is estimated to be about 5,000 baht from the insurance guy, the right bumper bar has about 10 thick scratches and there is a hole and crack through bumper bar. I think 5,000 is probably a little too much, but nothing serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black fox Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 nearly all m/bike riders drive out of sois and filling stations without looking and its not just the young guys, its so easy to have a coming together and even if you get a good result it still a lot of unwanted hassle that nobody needs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 nearly all m/bike riders drive out of sois and filling stations without looking and its not just the young guys, its so easy to have a coming together and even if you get a good result it still a lot of unwanted hassle that nobody needs. Well, that is why we are all taught to slow down at intersections and side roads. You may be in the right, and have a right of way... But avoiding an accident takers precedence. It is the same with people pushing to get into your lane and not following the queue... It might be worth closing them out to show your anger, but is it worth a scratch or the complication of an insurance issue? For me, not, so I happily give way whenever that is required. Bikers require me to always have my eyes on my mirrors at all times. Defensive driving as I was taught at my school definitely helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 nearly all m/bike riders drive out of sois and filling stations without looking and its not just the young guys, its so easy to have a coming together and even if you get a good result it still a lot of unwanted hassle that nobody needs. Well, that is why we are all taught to slow down at intersections and side roads. You may be in the right, and have a right of way... But avoiding an accident takers precedence. It is the same with people pushing to get into your lane and not following the queue... It might be worth closing them out to show your anger, but is it worth a scratch or the complication of an insurance issue? For me, not, so I happily give way whenever that is required. Bikers require me to always have my eyes on my mirrors at all times. Defensive driving as I was taught at my school definitely helps. ...we mast have gone to the same school ...on the other hand,I've noticed,if you let one driver sneak in,they all will try try to squeeze in,one after another... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2unique Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) nearly all m/bike riders drive out of sois and filling stations without looking and its not just the young guys, its so easy to have a coming together and even if you get a good result it still a lot of unwanted hassle that nobody needs. Well, that is why we are all taught to slow down at intersections and side roads. You may be in the right, and have a right of way... But avoiding an accident takers precedence. It is the same with people pushing to get into your lane and not following the queue... It might be worth closing them out to show your anger, but is it worth a scratch or the complication of an insurance issue? For me, not, so I happily give way whenever that is required. Bikers require me to always have my eyes on my mirrors at all times. Defensive driving as I was taught at my school definitely helps. ...we mast have gone to the same school ...on the other hand,I've noticed,if you let one driver sneak in,they all will try try to squeeze in,one after another... Yes but there's closing a gap and there's outright stupidity. Well done getting the wife on the scene, nothing says take responsibility for your actions more than a Thai woman used to a westerner's lack of jai yen yen... Sent from Android please allow errors in type or judgment. Edited December 21, 2012 by 2unique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) nearly all m/bike riders drive out of sois and filling stations without looking and its not just the young guys, its so easy to have a coming together and even if you get a good result it still a lot of unwanted hassle that nobody needs. It's because car drivers are supposed to leave a lane on the left for m/cs to travel along. It's why foreigners in cars cause so many crashes involving m/cs. The Thai m/c driver assumes all car drivers are Thai and understand the rules of the road. Edited December 21, 2012 by TommoPhysicist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 nearly all m/bike riders drive out of sois and filling stations without looking and its not just the young guys, its so easy to have a coming together and even if you get a good result it still a lot of unwanted hassle that nobody needs. The Thai m/c driver assumes all car drivers are Thai and understand the rules of the road. Sometimes you crack me up Tommo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) Be happy that just a shoe was under your wheel. Let your insurance guy deal with it. There'll be a meeting with a cop, (if they're involved), you and the guy who'd caused the accident. The cops make an offer, if the guy's willing to pay that, or even less, case is solved. If there's no settlement possible you might have to leave your car at the cops until somebody shows up. I had the 'luck' that a flying motorcycle hit my front bumper. Glad that it wasn't the guy who drove on a tractor. Freaking nothing happened to him. A lot of wasted time...... Edited December 22, 2012 by sirchai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokbird Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 So a bike pulls out of a soi with out looking, are you at fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 nearly all m/bike riders drive out of sois and filling stations without looking and its not just the young guys, its so easy to have a coming together and even if you get a good result it still a lot of unwanted hassle that nobody needs. It's because car drivers are supposed to leave a lane on the left for m/cs to travel along. It's why foreigners in cars cause so many crashes involving m/cs. The Thai m/c driver assumes all car drivers are Thai and understand the rules of the road. So you are arguing that foreigners drive tight in the curb and Thais don't?! What nonsense. Everyone more or less drives a meter from the curb, be they foreigner or Thai, from what i have seen, but when a motorcycle swings out from a turning, it invariably travels on arc that is wider than one meter, especially if it is taken at speed and without looking, and so if you happen to be passing in your car at the precise moment a bike turns into the road, a collision is quite likely and hard to avoid. You could understand this madness more if it wasn't the motorcycle riders lives the lives that are put on the line. Laziness and haste seem to get the better of sanity and self preservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 So a bike pulls out of a soi with out looking, are you at fault? The answer is below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 So a bike pulls out of a soi with out looking, are you at fault? The answer is below: Hmm, vehicles on the left have right of way. Is that the reason roundabouts are such a mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Hmm, vehicles on the left have right of way. Is that the reason roundabouts are such a mess? That is odd as I know in a roundabout the one on the right that has already entered into the roundabout has the right of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Hmm, vehicles on the left have right of way. Is that the reason roundabouts are such a mess? That is odd as I know in a roundabout the one on the right that has already entered into the roundabout has the right of way. I have a feeling that that is a bad translation. It comes from a law firms site and my guess is that on reading it an american substituted right for left as that is what he is used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Hmm, vehicles on the left have right of way. Is that the reason roundabouts are such a mess? That is odd as I know in a roundabout the one on the right that has already entered into the roundabout has the right of way. I have a feeling that that is a bad translation. It comes from a law firms site and my guess is that on reading it an american substituted right for left as that is what he is used to. Sorry, Americans don't do roundabouts either. But does explain why the few in LOS are a bloody shambles. The law in most countries dictates that traffic already on the roundabout does have right of way. However, I bet if someone get's sideswiped from the left while already in the roundabout and quotes the 'junction' law as stated earlier, the MiB will say, "But this is a roundabout, not a junction. You pay!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Also, he is Thai, and you are not............. Ah, that typical claim. Even on a thread when it's already been clearly shown to be completely false. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa ap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Sorry, Americans don't do roundabouts either. Actually they do, just not as common. Curious there is a site dedicated to it - RoundaboutsUSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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