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What Are The Odds Of Obama Making A Second Term Without Being Impeached?

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Did Obama do ONE THING y'all are OK with?

Well, he did recently admit he is a keen skeet shooter. whistling.gif

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His social positions are great. Why can't a great president work on MULTIPLE things? I detect that some of y'all are really bothered by Obama's social positions. The great thing is the MAJORITY of Americans SUPPORT them. God Bless America.

Housing markets are always local, but in general, in the USA, there is strong evidence the bottom has been reached and the recovery has begun.

The way that right wingers think outrageously severe economic inequality in the USA is OK is very telling.

http://www.washingto...f35d_story.html

Steady price increases should help fuel the housing recovery. They encourage more people to buy before prices rise further. Higher prices also build homeowners’ wealth, which can spur more spending and economic growth.

The data “show a broad-based recovery in housing activity and prices across the country,” said Michael Gapen, an economist at Barclays Capital. “We expect this housing recovery to continue in the coming years.”

I have a friend who tracks foreclosures in a major U.S. city. He said now there are many fewer and the ones that show up get multiple bids, all OVERBIDS. Yes, people are sensing the SUPER bargains are going away because they are.

Look dudes, in the REAL world not all of the news is going to be bad, even though the man you think is a horrible villain is in office. Get used to it!

Well, that's all a function of Federal Reserve policy not the president, or Congress for that matter. House prices, if indeed they are done going down aren't going to rise much for some time to come. I don't think there's anyone who isn't holding a 2.5%-4.5% mortgage already so there won't be any more refinancings which is where the last "wealth effect" driven economic boom came from. Prices will be driven by demographics and inventory going forward and inventory (and shadow inventory) remains very high.

His social positions are great. Why can't a great president work on MULTIPLE things? I detect that some of y'all are really bothered by Obama's social positions. The great thing is the MAJORITY of Americans SUPPORT them. God Bless America.

Social positions are not generally a criteria I use for choosing a chief executive so I'm not really familiar with them (nor his opponents). Refresh my memory, what are his social positions?

His social positions are great. Why can't a great president work on MULTIPLE things? I detect that some of y'all are really bothered by Obama's social positions. The great thing is the MAJORITY of Americans SUPPORT them. God Bless America.

Social positions are not generally a criteria I use for choosing a chief executive so I'm not really familiar with them (nor his opponents). Refresh my memory, what are his social positions?

For what purpose? You just said you don't care.

BTW, the unemployment news is actually GOOD. Here's why:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/02/01/february_jobs_report_157_000_new_jobs.html

Of course, ODS sufferers are not actually happy about hearing any good news that happens under Obama.

I get it. You really, really, really, don't like him.

Here's a fun link about the people who hate Obama. Start at minute 13:

http://www.thedailys...3-jason-bateman

The point is NOTHING Obama can do, nothing Obama supporers can say will change them one bit.

His social positions are great. Why can't a great president work on MULTIPLE things? I detect that some of y'all are really bothered by Obama's social positions. The great thing is the MAJORITY of Americans SUPPORT them. God Bless America.

Social positions are not generally a criteria I use for choosing a chief executive so I'm not really familiar with them (nor his opponents). Refresh my memory, what are his social positions?

For what purpose? You just said you don't care.

Unlike apparently, every single other person posting here I try to be objective and fair. If there's something he's done of a positive nature that makes up for all the pain and suffering his policies have caused I'm all ears. I don't usually look to a president or anyone else for permission or approval of how I conduct my life, so his social policies just never came up on my radar. Unless you're talking about Obamacare, which I think I've already expressed my opinion.

As you know I'm a proponent of universal healthcare. One thing the Obamacare fiasco (and that's what it will turn out to be) has showed me is that the Federal Government is the wrong place to effect this policy. I now think it should be taken up at state level, which will have its own set of problems, like establishing residency requirements, but will be available to all, especially for those who are actually paying for it..

I couldn't disagree more. Southern states like Georgia will HAPPILY allow their poor and minorities to just die. Geez! More of that strange libertarian, state's rights absurdity, reinvented constitutional fundamentalism anti-poor, anti-minority flavor or the month.

His social positions are great. Why can't a great president work on MULTIPLE things? I detect that some of y'all are really bothered by Obama's social positions. The great thing is the MAJORITY of Americans SUPPORT them. God Bless America.

Social positions are not generally a criteria I use for choosing a chief executive so I'm not really familiar with them (nor his opponents). Refresh my memory, what are his social positions?

For what purpose? You just said you don't care.

Unlike apparently, every single other person posting here I try to be objective and fair. If there's something he's done of a positive nature that makes up for all the pain and suffering his policies have caused I'm all ears. I don't usually look to a president or anyone else for permission or approval of how I conduct my life, so his social policies just never came up on my radar. Unless you're talking about Obamacare, which I think I've already expressed my opinion.

As you know I'm a proponent of universal healthcare. One thing the Obamacare fiasco (and that's what it will turn out to be) has showed me is that the Federal Government is the wrong place to effect this policy. I now think it should be taken up at state level, which will have its own set of problems, like establishing residency requirements, but will be available to all, especially for those who are actually paying for it..

OMG. Again. Happy to blame Obama for things he can't control but when something happens that is positive it can't POSSIBLY have ANYTHING to do with Obama's policies. Not just you, but do you guys realize how intellectually untenable that stance is?

OK, I'm going to throw a SOFTBALL now. Can we ALL agree that Obama's CREDIT CARD REFORMS are a very good thing that Obama deserves credit for:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Fact-Sheet-Reforms-to-Protect-American-Credit-Card-Holders

http://www.businessinsider.com/study-obamas-credit-card-act-is-working-2012-5

Social positions are not generally a criteria I use for choosing a chief executive so I'm not really familiar with them (nor his opponents). Refresh my memory, what are his social positions?

For what purpose? You just said you don't care.

Unlike apparently, every single other person posting here I try to be objective and fair. If there's something he's done of a positive nature that makes up for all the pain and suffering his policies have caused I'm all ears. I don't usually look to a president or anyone else for permission or approval of how I conduct my life, so his social policies just never came up on my radar. Unless you're talking about Obamacare, which I think I've already expressed my opinion.

As you know I'm a proponent of universal healthcare. One thing the Obamacare fiasco (and that's what it will turn out to be) has showed me is that the Federal Government is the wrong place to effect this policy. I now think it should be taken up at state level, which will have its own set of problems, like establishing residency requirements, but will be available to all, especially for those who are actually paying for it..

OMG. Again. Happy to blame Obama for things he can't control but when something happens that is positive it can't POSSIBLY have ANYTHING to do with Obama's policies. Not just you, but do you guys realize how intellectually untenable that stance is?

OK, I'm going to throw a SOFTBALL now. Can we ALL agree that Obama's CREDIT CARD REFORMS are a very good thing that Obama deserves credit for:

http://www.whitehous...it-Card-Holders

http://www.businessi...-working-2012-5

Ok, that's good I suppose, though it doesn't affect me in any way. What else have you got for the 3.8 Trillion that got spent last year?

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I couldn't disagree more. Southern states like Georgia will HAPPILY allow their poor and minorities to just die. Geez! More of that strange libertarian, state's rights absurdity, reinvented constitutional fundamentalism anti-poor, anti-minority flavor or the month.

where does this kind of rubbish come from? and why do liberals always fall back on such nonsence when put on the spot for a real answer to a real question? if you can document any state in the union allowing people to die please do so other wise stop flaming.

I couldn't disagree more. Southern states like Georgia will HAPPILY allow their poor and minorities to just die. Geez! More of that strange libertarian, state's rights absurdity, reinvented constitutional fundamentalism anti-poor, anti-minority flavor or the month.

Oh, I was thinking of MY state, which is the only one I'm concerned with. I previously thought of it as a national issue but the Federal Government didn't feel my family's needs were worthy of consideration, only that I pay for other family's needs, so I've changed my view on the matter.

You seem to think that people need labels like "liberal" and "conservative" so that you can automatically know how they MUST FEEL about every single issue. That's just silly. No, it's worse than that.

Anti-minority, anti-poor ? Where's that coming from? You should strive to be fair, otherwise its hard to regard anything you say as being serious.

So if it doesn't impact YOU, you're not interested. Thanks for sharing.

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In the United States, not all poor people are minorities, but poverty occurs at much higher rates in some large minority groups. These are issue of reducing economic and social inequality. Something that has been important to me since boyhood.

I couldn't disagree more. Southern states like Georgia will HAPPILY allow their poor and minorities to just die. Geez! More of that strange libertarian, state's rights absurdity, reinvented constitutional fundamentalism anti-poor, anti-minority flavor or the month.

where does this kind of rubbish come from? and why do liberals always fall back on such nonsence when put on the spot for a real answer to a real question? if you can document any state in the union allowing people to die please do so other wise stop flaming.

All U.S. states allow some people to die. If you don't realize that, we must be from different planets and we have no basis for discussion. The issue is to fight policies that greatly increase the numbers of people the states can write off.

So if it doesn't impact YOU, you're not interested. Thanks for sharing.

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In the United States, not all poor people are minorities, but poverty occurs at much higher rates in some large minority groups. These are issue of reducing economic and social inequality. Something that has been important to me since boyhood.

Not sure what you're talking about? The credit card thing? I mean it doesn't affect me in any way because I hardly use any credit. It's good they made the language of a credit card contract more clear for those that don't understand English well, but is there something in the law to help educate people about credit and its risks?

I'd rather see an educated consumer than a dumbed down contract but maybe that's just me. When you pointed it out I never associated it with minorities or poverty. I associated it with poor education and the need to consume at any cost. It's a shame some people automatically assume to be a minority or impoverished automatically means you're stupid too.

You obviously don't use your credit cards then. If you did, you would know this law impacts EVERYONE who uses credit cards in very real ways.

I was talking more generally as well.

Health care. You made it clear your concern is yourself and your family only.

My concern is the health care for ALL U.S. citizens.

Ayn Rand is the queen of the heartlessly selfish.

You claim you don't have an ideology, but I just don't see that. It's your own personal ideology perhaps but you've got one.

Before you suggest social issues are only about social approval and again of no interest to you because it doesn't concern YOU! At least you admit it. Do you realize how much more there is to social issues than social approval? Life and death stuff and also economic justice, for starters.

You obviously don't use your credit cards then. If you did, you would know this law impacts EVERYONE who uses credit cards in very real ways.

I was talking more generally as well.

Health care. You made it clear your concern is yourself and your family only.

My concern is the health care for ALL U.S. citizens.

Ayn Rand is the queen of the heartlessly selfish.

You claim you don't have an ideology, but I just don't see that. It's your own personal ideology perhaps but you've got one.

Before you suggest social issues are only about social approval and again of no interest to you because it doesn't concern YOU! At least you admit it. Do you realize how much more there is to social issues than social approval? Life and death stuff and also economic justice, for starters.

This is a little tricky. I am not suggesting all the Obama opponents are exactly the same. But I seem to be the only Obama defender here and also the only proud LIBERAL, socially AND economically, so I'm taking flak from different angles.

I guess you can't read. I said I was a proponent of Universal Healthcare, that would include ALL US citizens. I don't mind paying a larger share for those who can't. What I mind is that this new scheme has me paying that larger share for others but excludes MY family from any benefits at all. In fact it has driven up my healthcare costs. Surely you can see that's not right and that I'd have to be a masochistic idiot to retain my former view. I know you love Keynes, what little you know of him anyway. So here's some Keynes for you:

"When my information changes, I alter my conclusions. What do you do, sir? "

Of course I have an ideology, and you are correct, it is MINE. How could one live their life without a personal ideology?

I didn't say social issues don't concern me. I said i don't need a presidents agreement or not to feel validated in my social views. I'm going to do it anyway. I also retain for myself theright to change my views over the course of my lifetime.

I'm for a social safety net, because it feels right, but empirically I know that long term handouts are detrimental both to the person receiving it and the society itself. Nothing's black and white as much as you would wish to characterize it as so.

Seriously though, don't you have a personal belief system? Why would you limit yourself to positions taken out by two self interested political parties? Even worse, one self interested political party.

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Seriously though, don't you have a personal belief system? Why would you limit yourself to positions taken out by two self interested political parties? Even worse, one self interested political party.

Yes.

I don't.

The thread is about Obama. I think we've reached a conclusion. Obama won't be impeached. Some people will be angry about that.

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Seriously though, don't you have a personal belief system? Why would you limit yourself to positions taken out by two self interested political parties? Even worse, one self interested political party.

Yes.

I don't.

The thread is about Obama. I think we've reached a conclusion. Obama won't be impeached. Some people will be angry about that.

Yeah OK. That's what i said, he won't be impeached.

For the record, it was YOU that got off on the personal tangents about what you saw as my inconsistent ideology. I could have done the same and wondered what the moral equivalence is of killing 10's of thousands of innocent civilians is to dumbimg down a credit contract. Why it's OK to purposely slaughter innocents , which you say is brilliant policy, but it's a travesty that Georgia may provide a lesser standard of free healthcare than say Connecticut. Im guessing you didn't have a Jesuit education, huh?

Again, there is much more to the credit card law than you keep repeating!

I never said there was any moral equivalence in those items. That is your trip and it's a total red herring trip.

Please don't bring Jesuits into this.

This thread is way too broad already!

Again, there is much more to the credit card law than you keep repeating!

I never said there was any moral equivalence in those items. That is your trip and it's a total red herring trip.

Please don't bring Jesuits into this.

This thread is way too broad already!

OK, my last (for the time being) thought on the matter. He won't be impeached because the offenses he is impeachable for the Republicans largely agree with. Barring those offences, you can't impeach a president just because he gets under your skin.

I get the feeling you might be accusing Obama of war crimes. Not so much about impeachable offenses. These are different things. I don't think Obama has committed any impeachable offenses at all

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i agree i do not believe Obama has done anything to get himself impeached yet however i firmly believe that within this second term he will and his presidency will be marked with impeachment or impeachment hearings. a final note on the CC issue when govt begins thinking that they are able to determin what is best for it's citizens two things are happening; people are losing their freedom and someone is getting rich.

Did Obama do ONE THING y'all are OK with?

Well, he did recently admit he is a keen skeet shooter. whistling.gif

Another lie.

I get the feeling you might be accusing Obama of war crimes. Not so much about impeachable offenses. These are different things. I don't think Obama has committed any impeachable offenses at all

War crimes is a bit of an oxymoron isn't it? Strangelovian at least. How about crimes against humanity? As he's never actually declared a war anywhere. And this NDAA thing, no way that passes constitutional muster. It does away with habeus corpus just for starters. No the Republicans won't go after him for that, as they dig that shit the most. I'm surprised the more educated and moral of the Democrats hasn't though.

Did Obama do ONE THING y'all are OK with?

Well, he did recently admit he is a keen skeet shooter. whistling.gif

Another lie.

You can apologize to our president now if you so choose. coffee1.gif

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Did Obama do ONE THING y'all are OK with?

Well, he did recently admit he is a keen skeet shooter. whistling.gif

Another lie.

You can apologize to our president now if you so choose. coffee1.gif

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It doesn't show what he's shooting at. My money's on a copy of the constitution.

It doesn't show what he's shooting at. My money's on a copy of the constitution.

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The case is settled.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-white-houses-curious-silence-about-obamas-claim-of-skeet-shooting/2013/01/30/be78bb10-6b35-11e2-95b3-272d604a10a3_blog.html

So we now have a photo, a news report quoting an anonymous source that the president participated in a Marine guard competition and a news report quoting Obama that he has practiced with the Secret Service. The issue is settled, and we award the president a Geppetto Checkmark.

Did Obama do ONE THING y'all are OK with?

Well, he did recently admit he is a keen skeet shooter. whistling.gif

Another lie.

You can apologize to our president now if you so choose.

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A picture of him shooting a gun once does not prove that he is a "keen skeet shooter".rolleyes.gif

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