I am sure some enjoy it but why set up a nightly concert where the speakers are at maximum base so everything vibrates along with crazy singing ...surely the people closer to the stage would appreciate the music more if it was not so loud and why does everyone within 1KM have to be kept awake until 2AM ..

Some have to work ..this week some children are taking exams

Why 2am and why so loud and why in a temple ....

I spoke to some monks today and they said it was too loud but they had no control

Shouldn't these events be regulated....

Regulated??????

That's a normal temple fair, organized by the temple, nothing unusual all over Thailand since the stone age. At Plai Laem temple sound and vision (fireworks) lasted for 10 days, daily 21:00h until 01:00h. Unbelievable loud and nobody cares, I mean Thais. They played the same morlam night after night and after 5 nights I knew which one comes next. Wondered however, that there are crowds of Isaan folks every night until 01:00h.....

Of course the monks will not intervene, because that's organized also by them and it's their way of life to let all sufferings go without resistance.....

But, it will end and it will be quiet again. I have heard, that out in the villages of Isaan some temples or Amphoes fill the whole area with radio programs daily, starting before the sun rises to keep the hard working farmers, who appreciate that, informed and entertained on the surrounding fields for the whole day.

It's not the only place....

There is a new "bar" way up off Soi 5 Maenam, Booming away some nights, now, a number of people living in the area are not happy that it goes so late... and soo load,

I am probably 2.5 kms away and bad enough, I would hate to be closer,

At least with the Temple parties these are limited period of time .... a bar could keep going!

Wat Plailaem used to blow me out of bed @ 0730hrs on 01 Jan each year when they held a series of football matches (c/w mandatory vehicle-mounted speakers enabling residents of Koh Phangan to hear the commentary) followed by a concert & singing out of tune contest which went on until 2am the following day.

My front door was barely 100m from the speakers!

well yes noise noise everywhere in thailand and we westerners will never get used to it,but it is part of thai culture(the noise and the temple markets)and its at these nightly markets that thais go out to enjoy themselves

Surely the noise was manageable prior to the arrival of elec-trickery, which I assume was post 1945?

Surely the noise was manageable prior to the arrival of elec-trickery, which I assume was post 1945?

Smaller communities then...they just used to come and sit in your garden with their pipes and drums etc

friend of mine came to visit me. She is a professional piper and she surprised me with a nice bagpipe performance on my terrace late on a very quiet evening. I suppose you could hear that for miles. And as she ended suddenly there was applause from all around the area, from far and wide.......nice

friend of mine came to visit me. She is a professional piper and she surprised me with a nice bagpipe performance on my terrace late on a very quiet evening. I suppose you could hear that for miles. And as she ended suddenly there was applause from all around the area, from far and wide.......nice

Boggles the mind a bit that one. The thought of hearing bagpipes whilst enjoying a peaceful tropical night on Samui

friend of mine came to visit me. She is a professional piper and she surprised me with a nice bagpipe performance on my terrace late on a very quiet evening. I suppose you could hear that for miles. And as she ended suddenly there was applause from all around the area, from far and wide.......nice

Boggles the mind a bit that one. The thought of hearing bagpipes whilst enjoying a peaceful tropical night on Samui

I thought there is a law against that?

friend of mine came to visit me. She is a professional piper and she surprised me with a nice bagpipe performance on my terrace late on a very quiet evening. I suppose you could hear that for miles. And as she ended suddenly there was applause from all around the area, from far and wide.......nice

Boggles the mind a bit that one. The thought of hearing bagpipes whilst enjoying a peaceful tropical night on Samui

I thought there is a law against that?

What - young girls blowing into a pigskin bladder and then playing a tune with their fingers? There probably should be a law against it.

It's not the only place....

There is a new "bar" way up off Soi 5 Maenam, Booming away some nights, now, a number of people living in the area are not happy that it goes so late... and soo load,

I am probably 2.5 kms away and bad enough, I would hate to be closer,

At least with the Temple parties these are limited period of time .... a bar could keep going!

The signs say ":SECRET FUN CAMPING PARTY" well it's not much fun for us residents, seems to get progressively louder each night and last night they were setting off fireworks. This is going on at the waterfalls just off Soi 5. It's all farangs up here with the exception of 1 poor Thai family, the guy doing this I understand is a local Thai who doesn't even live around here so little or no chance of of getting it stopped or toned down. TIT, no zoning or if there is nobody pays any attention to it, Buy a nice house and the guy next door rents or sells his land to a guy who saws up coconut logs for a living or starts a SECRET FUN CAMPING PARTY.

Go Figure?

Property values?????

I'm not one of these berks that tells others to "go home if you don't like it" but these temple fares have been going on for a lot longer than you or i have been here and i find it laughable that some think that because some foreigners don't approve they now want to tell the thais what to do in their own country.

In short, its what they do, they enjoy it, you won't change it, so best buy some ear muffs or move to another area further wawy from a temple. Its not worth getting in a huff about

I'm not one of these berks that tells others to "go home if you don't like it" but these temple fares have been going on for a lot longer than you or i have been here and i find it laughable that some think that because some foreigners don't approve they now want to tell the thais what to do in their own country.

In short, its what they do, they enjoy it, you won't change it, so best buy some ear muffs or move to another area further wawy from a temple. Its not worth getting in a huff about

Yes , I suppose the same argument for burning rubbish could be used ......& I don't suppose the temple had quite so many neighbours in the past

anyway normally I live in a very quiet area in the mountains but am renting here for a year ...so will be elsewhere n/y

It's not the only place....

There is a new "bar" way up off Soi 5 Maenam, Booming away some nights, now, a number of people living in the area are not happy that it goes so late... and soo load,

I am probably 2.5 kms away and bad enough, I would hate to be closer,

At least with the Temple parties these are limited period of time .... a bar could keep going!

The signs say ":SECRET FUN CAMPING PARTY" well it's not much fun for us residents, seems to get progressively louder each night and last night they were setting off fireworks. This is going on at the waterfalls just off Soi 5. It's all farangs up here with the exception of 1 poor Thai family, the guy doing this I understand is a local Thai who doesn't even live around here so little or no chance of of getting it stopped or toned down. TIT, no zoning or if there is nobody pays any attention to it, Buy a nice house and the guy next door rents or sells his land to a guy who saws up coconut logs for a living or starts a SECRET FUN CAMPING PARTY.

Go Figure?

Property values?????

I knew that, but wanted to avoid naming it! You let the cat out the bag, Sticky!!!!!!

I actually chatted with this guy a week before he opened and even posted a picture in the Photo section.... a few weeks ago... The area used to be a nice swimming hole for locals and the odd buffalo!!!

The guy who owns it is a local artist and has a place for that down on Soi 2 across from the insurance car repair place. His brother has a resort on Soi 4... (so he said)

He told me he owned several Rai up around this new bar, but said it was to catch people headed up to the Secret falls and zip line, and those who do the 4 wheel drive machines who run around up there.... (the zip line does not get many people headed up by them selves....it's a very rough road.... (the zip line have a pick up service, which is not likely to stop... the 4 wheel drivers seem to go up and generally done within about 30 minutes and sometimes stop a a small shop on Soi 4)

(My thoughts at the time he said that, was he won't get much business.... he did not mention promoting the night time parties! !!!!)

I am sure some of the local Thai's will complain, problem is if they are not influential moneyed people they may be ignored I would say they are relatively poor farm types, around there, so won't be listen too... sadly, judging by the types of houses they live in.... . I don't think any of us farangs could do much about it.... ???

As for the Temple parties, well just something we have to except!

I'm not one of these berks that tells others to "go home if you don't like it" but these temple fares have been going on for a lot longer than you or i have been here and i find it laughable that some think that because some foreigners don't approve they now want to tell the thais what to do in their own country.

In short, its what they do, they enjoy it, you won't change it, so best buy some ear muffs or move to another area further wawy from a temple. Its not worth getting in a huff about

Yes , I suppose the same argument for burning rubbish could be used ......& I don't suppose the temple had quite so many neighbours in the past

anyway normally I live in a very quiet area in the mountains but am renting here for a year ...so will be elsewhere n/y

Its a very qwerky country basically. Good ones and some very irritating ones!!!

It's not the only place....

There is a new "bar" way up off Soi 5 Maenam, Booming away some nights, now, a number of people living in the area are not happy that it goes so late... and soo load,

I am probably 2.5 kms away and bad enough, I would hate to be closer,

At least with the Temple parties these are limited period of time .... a bar could keep going!

The signs say ":SECRET FUN CAMPING PARTY" well it's not much fun for us residents, seems to get progressively louder each night and last night they were setting off fireworks. This is going on at the waterfalls just off Soi 5. It's all farangs up here with the exception of 1 poor Thai family, the guy doing this I understand is a local Thai who doesn't even live around here so little or no chance of of getting it stopped or toned down. TIT, no zoning or if there is nobody pays any attention to it, Buy a nice house and the guy next door rents or sells his land to a guy who saws up coconut logs for a living or starts a SECRET FUN CAMPING PARTY.

Go Figure?

Property values?????

You have my sympathy. A while back we had the (dis)pleasure of the Black Moon Parties near us. Luckily only twice a month.

Look for people with influence to help your cause. Hotel owners/managers, local Thais with rental properties, old locals who are loosing there sleep (Thais still respect their old folk) etc. Of course - if there are none up there - not much help. Sorry.

We were able to enlist the help of all of the above. Of course - when the Crown Prince came to stay at the hotel nearby on the night of a BMP - it was hastily cancelled and they never appeared again.

Good luck

I'm not one of these berks that tells others to "go home if you don't like it" but these temple fares have been going on for a lot longer than you or i have been here and i find it laughable that some think that because some foreigners don't approve they now want to tell the thais what to do in their own country.

In short, its what they do, they enjoy it, you won't change it, so best buy some ear muffs or move to another area further wawy from a temple. Its not worth getting in a huff about

Yes Temple Fairs have been here a long time. The operative word TEMPLE. Now you have these fairs appearing everywhere, sometimes same location, 2 weeks on (11 days) & 2 weeks off. Nothing to do with the Temple.

Temple fairs used to be on once or twice a year per Temple, not every month.

I'm not one of these berks that tells others to "go home if you don't like it" but these temple fares have been going on for a lot longer than you or i have been here and i find it laughable that some think that because some foreigners don't approve they now want to tell the thais what to do in their own country.

In short, its what they do, they enjoy it, you won't change it, so best buy some ear muffs or move to another area further wawy from a temple. Its not worth getting in a huff about

Yes Temple Fairs have been here a long time. The operative word TEMPLE. Now you have these fairs appearing everywhere, sometimes same location, 2 weeks on (11 days) & 2 weeks off. Nothing to do with the Temple.

Temple fairs used to be on once or twice a year per Temple, not every month.

When they become a tourist attraction rather than a local event then you have a problem.

Temple markets are a long lasting culturel tradition of LoS. If we want to settle here as "alians", we have to accept the local culture. I believe a temple normally do it twice a year, each time for some 10 days, and then the market and show moves on to another place.

Bo Phut use to have some music top names coming for the late evening concerts some of the days – actually some of them are quite good entertainment.

Be happy when it is a market and not a new local karaokee bar

friend of mine came to visit me. She is a professional piper and she surprised me with a nice bagpipe performance on my terrace late on a very quiet evening. I suppose you could hear that for miles. And as she ended suddenly there was applause from all around the area, from far and wide.......nice

reminds me of those German Jews in the '80's, singing their traditional birthday songs on a 24 hour bustrip from Kasjmir to Ladakh in the Himalaya's, no one protested but later on in Goa they had no chance to do that again.

Wat Plailaem used to blow me out of bed @ 0730hrs on 01 Jan each year when they held a series of football matches (c/w mandatory vehicle-mounted speakers enabling residents of Koh Phangan to hear the commentary) followed by a concert & singing out of tune contest which went on until 2am the following day.

My front door was barely 100m from the speakers!

Must have taken them months to get through all the contestants for the singing out of tune contest . . .

Temple markets are a long lasting culturel tradition of LoS. If we want to settle here as "alians", we have to accept the local culture. I believe a temple normally do it twice a year, each time for some 10 days, and then the market and show moves on to another place.

Bo Phut use to have some music top names coming for the late evening concerts some of the days – actually some of them are quite good entertainment.

Be happy when it is a market and not a new local karaokee bar

If only the sound equipment wouldn't have improved so muchin the last 10 years, and the Thai 'sound engineers' unfortunately seem to have fixed the volume knob on maximum always.

Iiiii........t's Ti....mmme .....

That's a normal temple fair, organized by the temple, nothing unusual all over Thailand since the stone age. At Plai Laem temple sound and vision (fireworks) lasted for 10 days, daily 21:00h until 01:00h. Unbelievable loud and nobody cares, I mean Thais. They played the same morlam night after night and after 5 nights I knew which one comes next. Wondered however, that there are crowds of Isaan folks every night until 01:00h.....

Of course the monks will not intervene, because that's organized also by them and it's their way of life to let all sufferings go without resistance.....

But, it will end and it will be quiet again. I have heard, that out in the villages of Isaan some temples or Amphoes fill the whole area with radio programs daily, starting before the sun rises to keep the hard working farmers, who appreciate that, informed and entertained on the surrounding fields for the whole day.

A number of years ago I used to live not far from the Mae Nam morning market and would regularly be woken up by the loudspeaker enhanced radio broadcasts, complete with some gleefully geriatric DJ yelling his two penn'worth into the mike.

Moved away since, fled back to my own country.

Jus kiddin. But I wonder if it still goes on . . .

R

I'm not one of these berks that tells others to "go home if you don't like it" but these temple fares have been going on for a lot longer than you or i have been here and i find it laughable that some think that because some foreigners don't approve they now want to tell the thais what to do in their own country.

In short, its what they do, they enjoy it, you won't change it, so best buy some ear muffs or move to another area further wawy from a temple. Its not worth getting in a huff about

Yes Temple Fairs have been here a long time. The operative word TEMPLE. Now you have these fairs appearing everywhere, sometimes same location, 2 weeks on (11 days) & 2 weeks off. Nothing to do with the Temple.

Temple fairs used to be on once or twice a year per Temple, not every month.

And you used to get Full Moon Parties only once a month!

Now there's black moon, half moon, blue moon and I even one postered that said "Not a Moon Party".

Don't know what the world's coming to with all these temple fairs and moon parties and everyone enjoying themselves all the time - didn't ought to be allowed! I reckon I'll have to find a city to live in - I swear the middle of Penang is quieter than Samui at 2:00 am!

R

Bohput temple fair allows the sale of alcohol and they were even selling alcohol in there on a Bhudda day when bars were all closed. Friends bar had no girls next day as they all got drunk in Bohput temple the night before when his bar was closed due to a Bhudda day. Local temples have Khun Ja who most TV stations have banned her performance of Khun Hoo as being to raunchy but it fills the temples coffers, and pays for the goodies monks seem to desire now days, i pad i phones etc.

Good temple material

Agree 10-12 years ago that temple fair drove me nuts with the noise and the monks do not have to get up and work all days so accept it.

Bohput temple fair allows the sale of alcohol and they were even selling alcohol in there on a Bhudda day when bars were all closed. Friends bar had no girls next day as they all got drunk in Bohput temple the night before when his bar was closed due to a Bhudda day. Local temples have Khun Ja who most TV stations have banned her performance of Khun Hoo as being to raunchy but it fills the temples coffers, and pays for the goodies monks seem to desire now days, i pad i phones etc.

Good temple material

Agree 10-12 years ago that temple fair drove me nuts with the noise and the monks do not have to get up and work all days so accept it.

That is, without doubt, the most spiritual stage act I've seen for a while.

R

Bohput temple fair allows the sale of alcohol and they were even selling alcohol in there on a Bhudda day when bars were all closed. Friends bar had no girls next day as they all got drunk in Bohput temple the night before when his bar was closed due to a Bhudda day. Local temples have Khun Ja who most TV stations have banned her performance of Khun Hoo as being to raunchy but it fills the temples coffers, and pays for the goodies monks seem to desire now days, i pad i phones etc.

Good temple material http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvFpXi3Tvro

Agree 10-12 years ago that temple fair drove me nuts with the noise and the monks do not have to get up and work all days so accept it.

That is, without doubt, the most spiritual stage act I've seen for a while.

R

Hahaha. They should start doing shows like that in Western churches, in stead of choirs. That will surely bring the youngsters back to church!