I know this is a long way from Chiang Mai, last year I saw Dr Olivier in his clinic in Pattaya. He does a full medical with you before he prescribes Test for HRT.

Nibedo is one brand he uses, which is a long acting Test (10-12 weeks). It is expensive.

I am prescibed Nibedo in OZ at $150.00 a script. If you qualify for PBS it will cost about $34.00. I have had two courses and feeling good effects from the course.

If you decide to try any of this have a good doctor & get a medical done first. Check your prostate.

My main reason for trying this medication is too treat Chronic Fatigue Syndrome; I have had this for 5 years and find that it has improved overall wellbeing.

Two posts referencing illegal activity have bene removed per forum rules.

This is not the place to come to seeking advice on making an illegal purchase, nor to give it.

Is I stated I did not want to walk in to the pharmacy to ask questions as to buying injectable steroids over the counter witch is not legal. I want to know want is available to me here in Thailand so I can go to the Sports Medicine department at the Hospital and have some pre-knowledge as to know what to talk about so I can get the blood work done and the prescriptions legally. With proper follow ups and blood work like I do at the Veterans Administration in the states. They like to like to help injured Veterans of Foreign Wars. They also will reimburse me for the expenses because it is part of my disability compensation.

Sorry to bore you with some of the little details. But someone thought I was doing something illegal without checking first.

Also if recommendations are out there for a good Sport Medicine Doctor in Chiang Mai that would be nice. I have the name of two. But I would like to get more as there are a lot more of you then me. I was going to make this 2 different post but cannot seem to keep on here for more than a day. What I would like is legal even here in Thailand.

I am prescibed Nibedo in OZ at $150.00 a script. If you qualify for PBS it will cost about $34.00. I have had two courses and feeling good effects from the course.

$150 for Nebido!?!? They wanted to charge me 8000thb here! PER JAB.

Amazing Thailand.

Is I stated I did not want to walk in to the pharmacy to ask questions as to buying injectable steroids over the counter witch is not legal. I want to know want is available to me here in Thailand so I can go to the Sports Medicine department at the Hospital and have some pre-knowledge as to know what to talk about so I can get the blood work done and the prescriptions legally. With proper follow ups and blood work like I do at the Veterans Administration in the states. They like to like to help injured Veterans of Foreign Wars. They also will reimburse me for the expenses because it is part of my disability compensation.

Sorry to bore you with some of the little details. But someone thought I was doing something illegal without checking first.

Also if recommendations are out there for a good Sport Medicine Doctor in Chiang Mai that would be nice. I have the name of two. But I would like to get more as there are a lot more of you then me. I was going to make this 2 different post but cannot seem to keep on here for more than a day. What I would like is legal even here in Thailand.

oxymethalone under brand name Androlic - only with prescription from a hospital pharmacy

danazol under brand names Anargil, Ladogal, Ectopal and Vabon (100 and 200 mg doeses) - OTC no prescription required.

mesterolone under brand name Provironum OTC also

Many different testosterone preparations, all OTC

The only sports medicine doctors in Thailand I am aware of are orthopedic specialists and unlikely to be supportive of the use of medications for bodybuilding. Any foreigners you may come across in the body building world, unlikely to be licensed to practice medicine in Thailand, even if they have MDs. So basically I don't think a "sports medicine doctor" of the type you mean is to be found. The closest thing would likely be the doctors working in various anti-aging clinics e.g. vita life at Bumrungrad. But they are more focused on HRT and aging issues.

If you can't build your body to an acceptable level with hard work and good nutrition then maybe your money would be better spent on therapy to address your self esteem issues. Ego is a cruel mistress.

LOL. That logic would never work. People like to own nice things and people like to look good. People have standards and goals they wish to attain and many men have deficient testosterone production making muscle building nearly impossible. Why should older men be at a disadvantage when a fix is so easily available? It's hard enough aging without making the going even harder than it needs to be.

Perhaps you could hand out flyers where girls "waste" their money on breast enlargement and all types of plastic surgery, at dental clinics, at hair salons, at skin clinics, make up counters, fashion clothing stores.... ask them to stop wasting money and get their egos in check.

It would seem the whole world has "self esteem issues"...but guys with big muscles always get the most criticism, ironically, from other guys with low self esteem.

If you can't build your body to an acceptable level with hard work and good nutrition then maybe your money would be better spent on therapy to address your self esteem issues. Ego is a cruel mistress.

LOL. That logic would never work. People like to own nice things and people like to look good. People have standards and goals they wish to attain and many men have deficient testosterone production making muscle building nearly impossible. Why should older men be at a disadvantage when a fix is so easily available? It's hard enough aging without making the going even harder than it needs to be.

Perhaps you could hand out flyers where girls "waste" their money on breast enlargement and all types of plastic surgery, at dental clinics, at hair salons, at skin clinics, make up counters, fashion clothing stores.... ask them to stop wasting money and get their egos in check.

It would seem the whole world has "self esteem issues"...but guys with big muscles always get the most criticism, ironically, from other guys with low self esteem.

If you are truly deficient in T levels and cant raise them naturally then the supplements may be the way to go but many guys with normal T levels also want supplementation to max out their levels to teenage boy level.

If you already have normal levels you really shouldnt be tinkering around body chemistry unecessarily.

If you can't build your body to an acceptable level with hard work and good nutrition then maybe your money would be better spent on therapy to address your self esteem issues. Ego is a cruel mistress.

LOL. That logic would never work. People like to own nice things and people like to look good. People have standards and goals they wish to attain and many men have deficient testosterone production making muscle building nearly impossible. Why should older men be at a disadvantage when a fix is so easily available? It's hard enough aging without making the going even harder than it needs to be.

Perhaps you could hand out flyers where girls "waste" their money on breast enlargement and all types of plastic surgery, at dental clinics, at hair salons, at skin clinics, make up counters, fashion clothing stores.... ask them to stop wasting money and get their egos in check.

It would seem the whole world has "self esteem issues"...but guys with big muscles always get the most criticism, ironically, from other guys with low self esteem.

If you are truly deficient in T levels and cant raise them naturally then the supplements may be the way to go but many guys with normal T levels also want supplementation to max out their levels to teenage boy level.

If you already have normal levels you really shouldnt be tinkering around body chemistry unecessarily.

I think that is a choice that everyone should make for themselves, if for a person the benefits outweigh the negatives why not.

I have had chronical inflammation in lower back for over 20 years,

and have been wondering if steroids can help for over 10 years.

So my question is: is there any medical reason anavar could help me ?

and if so: How ?

I have had chronical inflammation in lower back for over 20 years,

and have been wondering if steroids can help for over 10 years.

So my question is: is there any medical reason anavar could help me ?

and if so: How ?

For that sort of problem, if steroids are indicted it would be corticosteroids (cortisone & the like) not anabolic.

Sometimes these are injected into the back. Not indicated for all conditions, of course, and not without drawbacks. You should discuss with a good orthopedic surgeon specializing in spine.

Ok, thanks Sheryl

but many guys with normal T levels also want supplementation to max out their levels to teenage boy level.

What is the problem with that? If a person is going to supplement with testosterone, why not go for teenage levels? Should an old guy aim for middle age levels?

Actually there would be quite a range of "normal" levels even for teenagers.

Yes, altho my HDD crashed so i lost my bloodwork,

IIRC normal range for testosterone was from 2 to 8,

meaning normal can differ by a factor of 4

but many guys with normal T levels also want supplementation to max out their levels to teenage boy level.

What is the problem with that? If a person is going to supplement with testosterone, why not go for teenage levels? Should an old guy aim for middle age levels?

Actually there would be quite a range of "normal" levels even for teenagers.

If your levels are already normal why take the risk of mucking around with your body chemistry? Any form of T boosting will have side effects of some kind. It is really only vanity if you are doing it when you dont need to.

If they are really low then there is a good reason to consider boosting them as there is quite a bit of research out there implicating low testosterone in a variety of ailments.

There is a new establishment on Ratvhiti Rd Chiang Mai. Has all the usual supplements and more. I have found this place to be quite helpful indeed for helping me get back into shape. PM me if anybody needs more details.