Aussie rules is Awsome!!

Why do the Paddies beat you every year then ( at your own game, shame ) ?

In the 60's when the Green Bay Packers were king, My Dad used to go out to a joint My Brothers place(which was predominantly black). The guys he would hang with were Lionel Aldridge Ray Nitchke, Dave Robinson Willie wood Travis Williams Zeke Bradkowski Max Mcgee & a half dozen guys that didn't really care to send you to the hospital.

The meanest was Ray Nitchki- the one they named crack a head football- if there is a problem break the opponents arm elbow or knee. QB take out the Rib section or dislocate or break the shoulder area.(Till he got married & he mellowed out RIP RAY!)

In the old days rugby players would be hating life as these boys were not only bruisers but could go the distance. Rugby Players can go the distance -but I think the weight differential's would put them at a true disadvantage.

I used to watch my ole man & the boys rip this bar to shreads often along with the poor unfortunates that would come up with a Pollock joke or a black joke . You had to be a bad muthha to mess with these boys. Our neighborhood was fortunate to have Paul Horning & the rest of the boys teach us pro scrimmages so we could tear up & outwit other neighborhood & high school teams. I quit playing after I jumped into college league when I was still in High school. I went for 2 touchdowns on QB sneaks & got the living shit beat out of me . Only 4 cracked ribs. OOOOOHHH he was a big bruiser!

The only wimps were Bart Stars kids which we used to kill them at B-ball & fights. Although I know the NFL has mellowed out quite a bit & crack a head football is pretty much gone with the $35,000 U.S. salaries, I think that it is oranges compared to apples. NFL packs way more punch s the testosterone level is still high.

Below is a link to a good comparison of rugby and American football. Most of it is spot on, although in recent years (due to major injuries) organized American football no longer allows a tackler to use his helmet as a weapon. There has been an attempt, similar to Aussie Rules, to disallow collisions which lead to life long injuries.

In the link below they make the comparison of rugby being a contact sport and American football being a collision sport. I think this best sums up the difference between the two sports. While rugby is a great sport, only Aussie Rules could be compared with American football as a collision sport.

http://wesclark.com/rrr/pads_and_helmets.html

Well you boys have had a lot of fun with this. Rugby and American football are two totally different games, requiring different athletic skills. The size and speed of American football players requires the need for padding. Rugby players are plodders. If they tried to play American football, they would be killed. But you English and Australian gents continue to have your fun...it makes for good barroom talk, in which incidentally the British are the world champions beyond a doubt.

Well you boys have had a lot of fun with this. Rugby and American football are two totally different games, requiring different athletic skills. The size and speed of American football players requires the need for padding. Rugby players are plodders. If they tried to play American football, they would be killed. But you English and Australian gents continue to have your fun...it makes for good barroom talk, in which incidentally the British are the world champions beyond a doubt.

A bit of a generalization. It depends on the position. Dave Dixon hardly got killed. After all, this former New Zealand All Black Colts player was an offensive guard in the NFL for 12 years and even made All-Pro while on the Vikings. The fact that he was very quick despite being 6 foot 5 and weighing 340 pounds didn't hurt, hence my comment that it depends on the position. I am sure there are others, but since they usually play college football in the US first (Dixon played at Arizona State), we don't usually know about them. I only know about Dixon because one of the TV announcers brought up his rugby playing days in NZ during a Vikings game.

Sheessh raro, if you had waited just a few more days, this thread would have been idle for a full two years bfore you resurrected it !

(glad to see that I'm still as witty and handsome now as I was way, way, waaaayyyyyy back then !)

I'm not sure you can compare Rugby to Americn Football. While there is certainly alot of contact in rugby, players suffer no where near the decelerative forces that US footballers take when hit. If compared to cars, rugby would be like being in a demolition derby. US football would be like being in a series of high speed headon collisions. The violence involved in US professional football is one of the reasons I no longer watch it. College football still entertains. As for soccer it seems more like one of those games children (boys and girls) play at recess, like 4square or tetherball.

All this talk about American Football, here is the real deal

I played College Football at Pierce College (Los Angeles) for 2 years in the late 1980's.

Most people play American football without pads because only organized football events(you have to be on a team) provide the pads, most people who play have never worn pads. So on most afternoons-with friends,

it was full contact-no pads football, much rougher than any of the contenders (ie:rugby).

I also played alot of Rugby, at the University level(UCSC), it's not even comparable to American Football with pads, much less pad-less.

So the winner is evident

Rugby v American Football.

They are both contact sports, the BIG difference is American football stops for a rest every cupla minutes, so that must be poofie footie.

They have 2 teams, over 30 guys....sheeeeesh, one for defence and one for attack. (Offense sounds offensive.....LOL)

Also, only 3 - 4 guys actually get to touch the ball.

And the game was invented by CANUCKS, because people were getting too badly hurt playing RUGBY.

Same reason Aussie Rules was invented.

That surely means RUGBY ROOLS !!!!!!!!!

Bet the shit hits the fan now, but it is all fact.

Rugby v American Football.

They are both contact sports, the BIG difference is American football stops for a rest every cupla minutes, so that must be poofie footie.

They have 2 teams, over 30 guys....sheeeeesh, one for defence and one for attack. (Offense sounds offensive.....LOL)

Also, only 3 - 4 guys actually get to touch the ball.

And the game was invented by CANUCKS, because people were getting too badly hurt playing RUGBY.

Same reason Aussie Rules was invented.

That surely means RUGBY ROOLS !!!!!!!!!

Bet the shit hits the fan now, but it is all fact.

It won't hit the fan because you are making a comparison about something you know nothing about. The link I included in my first post that described rugby as a contact sport and American football as a collision sport came from a RUGBY website. Go read it if you really care about the difference.

Rugby v American Football.

They are both contact sports, the BIG difference is American football stops for a rest every cupla minutes, so that must be poofie footie.

They have 2 teams, over 30 guys....sheeeeesh, one for defence and one for attack. (Offense sounds offensive.....LOL)

Also, only 3 - 4 guys actually get to touch the ball.

And the game was invented by CANUCKS, because people were getting too badly hurt playing RUGBY.

Same reason Aussie Rules was invented.

That surely means RUGBY ROOLS !!!!!!!!!

Bet the shit hits the fan now, but it is all fact.

Poofie indeed!

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/247684

Rugby v American Football.

They are both contact sports, the BIG difference is American football stops for a rest every cupla minutes, so that must be poofie footie.

They have 2 teams, over 30 guys....sheeeeesh, one for defence and one for attack. (Offense sounds offensive.....LOL)

Also, only 3 - 4 guys actually get to touch the ball.

And the game was invented by CANUCKS, because people were getting too badly hurt playing RUGBY.

Same reason Aussie Rules was invented.

That surely means RUGBY ROOLS !!!!!!!!!

Bet the shit hits the fan now, but it is all fact.

Poofie indeed!

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/247684

No different to Rugby Union, or Rugby league, hits are just the same, except poofie Americans wear padding and helmets.......<deleted>.

Where's ya MEN ?

No different to Rugby Union, or Rugby league, hits are just the same, except poofie Americans wear padding and helmets.......<deleted>.

Where's ya MEN ?

Getting their butts kicked on the ice. Hockey is where it's at ! Many teams actually have players on their rosters whose job it is to pummel anyone on the other team that messes with their "star" players ! One of the few (only ?) team sports where getting into a fight will get you a penalty, but not (usually) kicked out of the game (though if you are the "instigator", you may get an additional 2 minute penalty, and could get booted from the game).

We even have a saying "Went to the fights the other night, and a hockey game broke out !"

Not many other sports have players that can get hit in the face with a frozen puck, get stitched up while on the bench, then go out and play their next shift.

I once took a puck off the side of my foot during the warm-up. Hurt like hel_l, but I couldn't leave the game as I was the only goalie for my team. Afterwards I had to get a friend to drive me to the hospital (couldn't operate the clutch with my injured foot). Turns out I had a cracked bone, but it didn't matter, WE WON the game (it was a meaningless "drop-in" game held every week).

Given the choice between (American) football and (Aussie Rules) rugby, I'd take a pass on both and watch some old hockey re-runs !

Sheessh raro, if you had waited just a few more days, this thread would have been idle for a full two years bfore you resurrected it !

(glad to see that I'm still as witty and handsome now as I was way, way, waaaayyyyyy back then !)

.....and self-delusioned.....

Sheessh raro, if you had waited just a few more days, this thread would have been idle for a full two years bfore you resurrected it !

(glad to see that I'm still as witty and handsome now as I was way, way, waaaayyyyyy back then !)

.....and self-delusioned.....

I resemble that !

No different to Rugby Union, or Rugby league, hits are just the same, except poofie Americans wear padding and helmets.......<deleted>.

Where's ya MEN ?

Getting their butts kicked on the ice. Hockey is where it's at ! Many teams actually have players on their rosters whose job it is to pummel anyone on the other team that messes with their "star" players ! One of the few (only ?) team sports where getting into a fight will get you a penalty, but not (usually) kicked out of the game (though if you are the "instigator", you may get an additional 2 minute penalty, and could get booted from the game).

We even have a saying "Went to the fights the other night, and a hockey game broke out !"

Not many other sports have players that can get hit in the face with a frozen puck, get stitched up while on the bench, then go out and play their next shift.

I once took a puck off the side of my foot during the warm-up. Hurt like hel_l, but I couldn't leave the game as I was the only goalie for my team. Afterwards I had to get a friend to drive me to the hospital (couldn't operate the clutch with my injured foot). Turns out I had a cracked bone, but it didn't matter, WE WON the game (it was a meaningless "drop-in" game held every week).

Given the choice between (American) football and (Aussie Rules) rugby, I'd take a pass on both and watch some old hockey re-runs !

Kerry, I have to agree with you...hockey players are a breed apart. Toughest men in pro sports. Guys get clipped in the head with a stick or a puck, go in and get stitched up and come back to play the rest of the game. Most other professional athletes would be out for two weeks. And those boards can be unforgiving. Still, when you look at the carnage created by American football (very few players at the professional level live their Golden Years without constant pain), you have to appreciate the amount of violence these people play with year in and year out.

And if it will please our Brit and Aussie friends, I also think rugby players are tough, tough men. I mean, who would play 80 minutes straight with most of that time spent with your head up someone else's arse in those scrums?

Yeah, agree with kerryd.

In person on person sport ice hockey would be the most violent.

Used to have a go at it at St Moritz, St Kilda, Melborne.......back in 50s and early 60s.

No padding..... lol, wet thru and bruised, but went back for more.

Crazy, fun game, ya gotta have a death wish.......LOL

In person on person sport ice hockey would be the most violent.

No padding..... lol, wet thru and bruised, but went back for more.

Crazy, fun game, ya gotta have a death wish.......LOL

I used to be a goalie, mainly because I couldn't skate well enough to play any other positions. Also because not a lot of people are willing to stand in the crease and let people blast them with frozen hunks of rubber (pucks) travelling at very high speeds (at the pro level, some players can shoot a puck well over 90 miles/hour - 150 kms/hr).

Even wearing the best, off the shelf padding I could buy, I would often come home bruised, especially when facing college-level shooters (never had to face pro-level thank gawd).

Haven't any of you watched Hurling? The most manly (no padding at all) sport. They have only resently started wearing head gear!

Check this...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AM-kB1e96CA

and this...

I played this as a kid and it's rough and tumble!

This thread was resurected at an ironic time for me.

I've been on crutches for the last few days as my old (aussie rules) footy injury decided to blow up on me. My knee is about the size of a footy right now.

All I did was twist it slightly while cooking in the kitchen (there's a dangerous sport for you!), and the fragments of bone and cartlidge floating around decided to mash (p) against each other.

Serves me right, should have got it scrapped out decades ago.

No padding or helmets here.

Haven't any of you watched Hurling? The most manly (no padding at all) sport. They have only resently started wearing head gear!

Check this...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AM-kB1e96CA

and this...

I played this as a kid and it's rough and tumble!

Yeah, hurling is a hard hitting game, in both respects,

Hard hitting games =

Union

League

Hurling

Gaelic and AFL footy

American football.

In that order.

All have hard hits, but, nuthing beats Ice Hockey.

Tiddleywinks..... naaaaaaaaah

This thread was resurected at an ironic time for me.

I've been on crutches for the last few days as my old (aussie rules) footy injury decided to blow up on me. My knee is about the size of a footy right now.

All I did was twist it slightly while cooking in the kitchen (there's a dangerous sport for you!), and the fragments of bone and cartlidge floating around decided to mash (p) against each other.

Serves me right, should have got it scrapped out decades ago.

No padding or helmets here.

I have seen some Aussie Rules games (live) and have always thought that it was the only sport that rivaled American football for violent hits. In later years, hockey players have no problem walking around without pain, but former American football and Aussie Rules players hobble around (as you are doing now).

Since we are now talking about sports with violent hits, boxing and ultimate fighting should be mentioned. After all, in these two sports violence isn't a byproduct of the game, but rather the actual goal of the sport.

This thread was resurected at an ironic time for me.

I've been on crutches for the last few days as my old (aussie rules) footy injury decided to blow up on me. My knee is about the size of a footy right now.

All I did was twist it slightly while cooking in the kitchen (there's a dangerous sport for you!), and the fragments of bone and cartlidge floating around decided to mash (p) against each other.

Serves me right, should have got it scrapped out decades ago.

No padding or helmets here.

I have seen some Aussie Rules games (live) and have always thought that it was the only sport that rivaled American football for violent hits. In later years, hockey players have no problem walking around without pain, but former American football and Aussie Rules players hobble around (as you are doing now).

Since we are now talking about sports with violent hits, boxing and ultimate fighting should be mentioned. After all, in these two sports violence isn't a byproduct of the game, but rather the actual goal of the sport.

I guess we've payed homage to everyones favorite rough and tumble sports memories. Yes, you can get bruised ,stitches, lose a tooth, break a bone from aussie rules, rugby, hocky, etc. You probably won't become a quadraplegic or die from it however. That's a real possibility for American Football players. It's not just rough, it's violent. It's a shock to the skeletal and nervous systems. It's toooo violent for my tastes and I stopped watching it.

Since we are now talking about sports with violent hits, boxing and ultimate fighting should be mentioned. After all, in these two sports violence isn't a byproduct of the game, but rather the actual goal of the sport.

Brutal, and some rodeo events as well.

Yes, you can get bruised ,stitches, lose a tooth, break a bone from aussie rules, rugby, hocky, etc. You probably won't become a quadraplegic or die from it however. That's a real possibility for American Football players. It's not just rough, it's violent. It's a shock to the skeletal and nervous systems. It's toooo violent for my tastes and I stopped watching it.

This is not a boast.

There has been far too many deaths and serious spinal injuries occuring in Aussie rules right up to AFL level. (and also rugby when a pack collapses on someones neck)

"Researchers looked at football players with spinal injuries over the period 1997-2002 from around Australia.

They compared rugby union, rugby league, AFL (Australian rules football) and soccer, looking at the frequency and the type of spinal injury and how the players got these injuries. They've published their findings in the latest Medical Journal of Australia. Over the six years there were 52 cases of spinal cord injury - 45 adults and seven schoolboys. There were 23 in rugby union, 12 in league, 13 in Australian rules and four in soccer."

One of the reasons for the upsurge in popularity of soccer in Australia is mothers refusing to allow their kids to start in the other football codes.

One of the reasons for the upsurge in popularity of soccer in Australia is mothers refusing to allow their kids to start in the other football codes.

That is an interesting comment since it is exactly the same reason for an upsurge of soccer in the US. Mom's don't want their kids playing American football either.

Haven't any of you watched Hurling? The most manly (no padding at all) sport. They have only resently started wearing head gear!

Check this...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AM-kB1e96CA

and this...

I played this as a kid and it's rough and tumble!

Looks a bit like Lacrosse

Haven't any of you watched Hurling? The most manly (no padding at all) sport. They have only resently started wearing head gear!

Check this...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AM-kB1e96CA

and this...

I played this as a kid and it's rough and tumble!

Looks a bit like Lacrosse

How very dare you! It pre-dates Lacrosse by a 1,000 years. It's also far rougher!

One of the reasons for the upsurge in popularity of soccer in Australia is mothers refusing to allow their kids to start in the other football codes.

That is an interesting comment since it is exactly the same reason for an upsurge of soccer in the US. Mom's don't want their kids playing American football either.

What my dorta tried with me grandson.

He started as a soccer player.

Now, soccer too sissy for him.

RUGBY UNION no 8, that's my grandson.... YAAAAAAAY

A mans game.

One of the reasons for the upsurge in popularity of soccer in Australia is mothers refusing to allow their kids to start in the other football codes.

That is an interesting comment since it is exactly the same reason for an upsurge of soccer in the US. Mom's don't want their kids playing American football either.

What my dorta tried with me grandson.

He started as a soccer player.

Now, soccer too sissy for him.

RUGBY UNION no 8, that's my grandson.... YAAAAAAAY

A mans game.

Thanks for confirming our points. Rugby is a man's game, but parents aren't afraid of life threatening injuries from it. It can be played safely and the kid can have a lot of fun playing it. Sports like Aussie Rules, American football and hockey are sports that parents don't want their kids playing, as they often lead to longstanding injuries due to their violent natures.