Politicians, corruption to blame for national divide, says youngsters

[Lite Beer]

Politicians, corruption to blame for national divide, says youngsters
The Sunday Nation

BANGKOK: -- Youngsters believe that politicians and corruption are the major causes of national division, and the government and the opposition must get together to find a solution for the country to achieve peace, according to Dusit Poll results released yesterday.

Of 3,610 respondents aged 18 to 20 who were surveyed, 82 per cent believed politicians and political conflicts brought about national rift, 81 per cent believed corruption was the main cause, 71 per cent believed the use of violence was the cause and 69 per cent said different beliefs was the reason.

About 95 per cent believed giving quality education to as many people as possible would help reduce national conflicts, while 94 per cent said cracking down on corruption would help reduce the problems.

Meanwhile, more than half of young people said they intend to uphold integrity and contribute to society on the occasion of Her Majesty the Queen's 81st birthday, according to a Bangkok University poll.

The poll was conducted on 1,228 people aged 15-24 in Bangkok and its nearby provinces. Apart from traditional ways of expressing their love to their mother such as kissing, hugging, giving jasmine and garland, 13 per cent said they would tell their mother they love her through social media networks.

More than 43 per cent said their mother was their idol in terms of work ethics, which they would most like to emulate, followed by possessing kindness and honesty, 15 per cent.

The problems young people were most concerned about their mother was health 45 per cent; 18 per cent said working too hard without enough rest and 11 per cent said they were worried about their mother having an accident while travelling.

-- The Nation 2013-08-11

[clockman]

Out of the mouths of babes!!

[bigbamboo]

There's hope for the future yet.

[smutcakes]

And which body is going to take the lead in cracking down on the corruption?

[OzMick]

"About 95 per cent believed giving quality education to as many people as possible would help reduce national conflicts........."

The other 5% would be Yingluk and PTP who believe giving a free pass to criminals will work, and that vote buying populism is about a trillion baht more worthy than improving education.

[jaltsc]

"Of 3,610 respondents aged 18 to 20 who were surveyed..."

Then the grow up, enter the work place, realize that corruption is the only way to get ahead and begin behaving like every other adult. It's much easier to be idealistic when talking from outside the system.

[smutcakes]

"About 95 per cent believed giving quality education to as many people as possible would help reduce national conflicts........."

The other 5% would be Yingluk and PTP who believe giving a free pass to criminals will work, and that vote buying populism is about a trillion baht more worthy than improving education.

Or the other 5% are the parties who have predominantly ruled over Thailand for the past 70 years and completely disregarded education, and now cry that the people are not educated enough to vote as they don't vote for them anymore:( you reap what you sow.

[EvilDrSomkid]

In a separate poll, held by the same organization, 76% of youngsters approved of corruption, as long as they benefited from it.

So, which is it?

[Halion]

These poll items continue to miss the point. Poor education and corruption are merely the effects and not the cause of the problem faing this country. Untill this nation realizes that the root cause lies within the retrograde culture that has been allowed to flourish,then and only then can be the chance for change .

[Lite Beer]

Majority of Thais say education will help solve political conflicts

BANGKOK, 11 August 2013 (NNT) – Majority of Thais say education is the solution to political conflicts, while expressing their desire that they want to see unity and peace in Thailand.

According to Dusit Poll, Thais said the current conflicts were caused by politicians, corruption, violence, different thoughts and ideas, and misuse of power.

When asked about a solution, they said education is a means to solve the problem. They also mentioned other solutions like strict measures against corruption and peaceful discussions.

Thai people, according to the poll, want to see love and unity among the politicians. They said everybody should respect rule of law and stop any violent acts. Lastly, they said politicians should always put benefits of the people and the nation first before think of their own personal interests.

-- NNT 2013-08-11

[Neilly]

Thai people, according to the poll, want to see love and unity among the politicians.

Good luck with that

[ramrod711]

BANGKOK: -- Youngsters believe that politicians and corruption are the major causes of national division, and the government and the opposition must get together to find a solution for the country to achieve peace, according to Dusit Poll results released yesterday.

I experienced a surge of optimism when i read this..... then i thought , wait a minute, are young people neccessarily better than their elders. Then i thought of Chalerm and his sons, my optimism is gone.

[TackyToo]

"About 95 per cent believed giving quality education to as many people as possible would help reduce national conflicts........."

The other 5% would be Yingluk and PTP who believe giving a free pass to criminals will work, and that vote buying populism is about a trillion baht more worthy than improving education.

Ok, I clicked the like button on it. Now I can only hope your opnion is not declared a rumor

[OzMick]

"About 95 per cent believed giving quality education to as many people as possible would help reduce national conflicts........."

The other 5% would be Yingluk and PTP who believe giving a free pass to criminals will work, and that vote buying populism is about a trillion baht more worthy than improving education.

Or the other 5% are the parties who have predominantly ruled over Thailand for the past 70 years and completely disregarded education, and now cry that the people are not educated enough to vote as they don't vote for them anymore:( you reap what you sow.

Right, it's 70 years, but let's not talk about most of the last 10.

"The poll was conducted on 1,228 people aged 15-24........" ie educated by, or in the process of being educated by, a Thaksin(ist) regime, and now receiving some savage lessons in populism, cronyism, corruption and the wisdom to meddling with world markets.

[nottocus]

They are just stating the obvious. No news story here.

[marell]

Might be interesting to survey the exact same 3,610 people five years from now.

Edited August 11, 2013 by marell

[mikemac]

Politicians, corruption to blame for national divide, says youngsters

Lastly, they said politicians should always put benefits of the people and the nation first before think of their own personal interests.

Wonder how Yingluck will react when she hears crazy talk like this !

[oldsailor35]

"About 95 per cent believed giving quality education to as many people as possible would help reduce national conflicts........."

The other 5% would be Yingluk and PTP who believe giving a free pass to criminals will work, and that vote buying populism is about a trillion baht more worthy than improving education.

What a one eyed <deleted> ( excuse the pun) But corruption and buying of votes by both parties came in a hell of a long time before Yingluk. This is part of the problem, fools like this can only believe that its the other side causing all the problems, and that their side are "lilly white"

[NovaBlue05]

"Politicians, corruption to blame for national divide,..."

Same in the USA....except add media to the list as enablers

[hellodolly]

These poll items continue to miss the point. Poor education and corruption are merely the effects and not the cause of the problem faing this country. Untill this nation realizes that the root cause lies within the retrograde culture that has been allowed to flourish,then and only then can be the chance for change .

Education has nothing to do with it. (well a little bit) The people saying it is OK are not aware of the amounts of money involved when you say corruption to the average Thai he is only thinking of the tea money going to police. He is not thinking of the billions of Baht going into the politicians pockets. If you wish you may call that a retrograde culture and how many posters here encourage it every time they hand over 200 baht for not wearing a helmet instead of the 400 baht fine plus the trip to pay it.

He is not thinking of the billions of Baht going into the politicians pockets.

Walk up to the same man or women and say do you think it was OK for the builder of that bridge that collapsed killing x number of people to have used material that was no good but he paid so and so in the government X baht to get him to say it was OK?

You will see a tremendous drop in the approval rating. It will be like falling off a cliff.

As I see things it is not only the Thai people who need education it is a lot of the posters on TV.

Edited August 11, 2013 by hellodolly

[surangw]

good to see they are not numbed out and brain washed by the thai education system (yet)

[Roadman]

"About 95 per cent believed giving quality education to as many people as possible would help reduce national conflicts........."

The other 5% would be Yingluk and PTP who believe giving a free pass to criminals will work, and that vote buying populism is about a trillion baht more worthy than improving education.

Or the other 5% are the parties who have predominantly ruled over Thailand for the past 70 years and completely disregarded education, and now cry that the people are not educated enough to vote as they don't vote for them anymore:( you reap what you sow.

Right, it's 70 years, but let's not talk about most of the last 10.

"The poll was conducted on 1,228 people aged 15-24........" ie educated by, or in the process of being educated by, a Thaksin(ist) regime, and now receiving some savage lessons in populism, cronyism, corruption and the wisdom to meddling with world markets.

Correct that the last 10 years has seen it all spiraling to out of control levels. I wonder if the total incompetence and corruption from the Shinawatra mafia in the last year or so has seen the awareness from mostly educated young thai's (the poll is Bangkok and surrounds) drift from accepting corruption to now starting to becoming intolerant to it.

But will it make a difference? Probably not as the Thaksin ace is the purchase and control of the uneductaed Isaan Khwai mass. Besides where most young educated thai's are becoming politically aware to the Shinawatra populist police state that is coming is via social media and we have just this week had a warning from the Shinawatra police state of their intent to over ride democratic debate. The educated young thai's are waking up to what is happening to Thailand but given what is stacked against them they will be over ridden and force and threat controlled.

As my beautiful daughter (step) says in response to my thoughts that she should run for politics when she has completed her degree..."No thanks dad I do not want to end up dead". From the mouths of babes alright especially when raised in Isaan among the Red hard core political thugs.

None the less one can only take hope from these young peoples realisation that this government is to put it in plain English...the lowest scum out.

[geriatrickid]

And which body is going to take the lead in cracking down on the corruption?

Well, right now, it is the PTP party government taking the lead on the island of Phuket.

There was absolutely, no effort made until the PTP won the election. Phuket is a Democrat bastion of power. There has always been corruption, but it only became so blatant, so brazen, so in your face after the coup. During the Thaksin era, it existed, but it was a shadow of the current state. The former Abhisit government did nothing to address the problem.

No doubt, there will be those that will chime in, with cries that Issan is corrupt, etc. Well, let me put it in terms that the critics will understand. No one physically assaults tourists in Udon or Ubon with the same frequency and gusto as they do in the Phuket region. The tuk tuks and taxis of Issan do not rip of the public in the same way, and the encroachment on public land, and the destruction of the national preserves is nowhere near its pathetic level elsewhere in Thailand. There may be human trafficking in the other border regions, but only in the Phuket region has it reached the point that it has caused normally quiet NGOs and governments to protest.

[OzMick]

And which body is going to take the lead in cracking down on the corruption?

Well, right now, it is the PTP party government taking the lead on the island of Phuket.

There was absolutely, no effort made until the PTP won the election. Phuket is a Democrat bastion of power. There has always been corruption, but it only became so blatant, so brazen, so in your face after the coup. During the Thaksin era, it existed, but it was a shadow of the current state. The former Abhisit government did nothing to address the problem.

No doubt, there will be those that will chime in, with cries that Issan is corrupt, etc. Well, let me put it in terms that the critics will understand. No one physically assaults tourists in Udon or Ubon with the same frequency and gusto as they do in the Phuket region. The tuk tuks and taxis of Issan do not rip of the public in the same way, and the encroachment on public land, and the destruction of the national preserves is nowhere near its pathetic level elsewhere in Thailand. There may be human trafficking in the other border regions, but only in the Phuket region has it reached the point that it has caused normally quiet NGOs and governments to protest.

"No one physically assaults tourists in Udon or Ubon with the same frequency and gusto as they do in the Phuket region."

Could that be because of the relative numbers of tourists in those regions?

Have you considered that if a corrupt government was to make any attempt at preventing corruption, the first place it would happen would be in an opposition area? Is Phuket showing huge signs of anti-corruption, as promised for ALL of Thailand?

[dcutman]

And which body is going to take the lead in cracking down on the corruption?

Well, right now, it is the PTP party government taking the lead on the island of Phuket.

There was absolutely, no effort made until the PTP won the election. Phuket is a Democrat bastion of power. There has always been corruption, but it only became so blatant, so brazen, so in your face after the coup. During the Thaksin era, it existed, but it was a shadow of the current state. The former Abhisit government did nothing to address the problem.

No doubt, there will be those that will chime in, with cries that Issan is corrupt, etc. Well, let me put it in terms that the critics will understand. No one physically assaults tourists in Udon or Ubon with the same frequency and gusto as they do in the Phuket region. The tuk tuks and taxis of Issan do not rip of the public in the same way, and the encroachment on public land, and the destruction of the national preserves is nowhere near its pathetic level elsewhere in Thailand. There may be human trafficking in the other border regions, but only in the Phuket region has it reached the point that it has caused normally quiet NGOs and governments to protest.

Gk I believe the PTP have been in power for over 2 years now. I would think the current state of things would be at least a little bit better than it was 2 years ago.

There is only 3 or 4 other on this forum that can be so creative delivering such positive BS sermons, about the most destructive, corrupt, dictatorial governments since Thaksin became a convicted on the run criminal.

[Bagwan]

"Of 3,610 respondents aged 18 to 20 who were surveyed..."

Then the grow up, enter the work place, realize that corruption is the only way to get ahead and begin behaving like every other adult. It's much easier to be idealistic when talking from outside the system.

In the UK the young vote with their hearts and support Labour. Then they grow up and vote with their brains and support the Tories. ( A modern fable)

[DocN]

1) Dear The Nation- don't you have anyone, proof reading your articles. I am not even native English- speaking, but I cringe over the abysmal English!

2) the same youngsters will bribe themselves out of the next police- control they get into and will do absolutely nothing in terms of political work and/or -when asked- will gladly hold upright the political and social status quo, if it will benefit their own needs!

[Thaddeus]

When you are a part of a me me me society, and you are already on the ladder, you actually don't care.

The only time that you care is, by that time, too late.

[hellodolly]

And which body is going to take the lead in cracking down on the corruption?

Well, right now, it is the PTP party government taking the lead on the island of Phuket.

There was absolutely, no effort made until the PTP won the election. Phuket is a Democrat bastion of power. There has always been corruption, but it only became so blatant, so brazen, so in your face after the coup. During the Thaksin era, it existed, but it was a shadow of the current state. The former Abhisit government did nothing to address the problem.

No doubt, there will be those that will chime in, with cries that Issan is corrupt, etc. Well, let me put it in terms that the critics will understand. No one physically assaults tourists in Udon or Ubon with the same frequency and gusto as they do in the Phuket region. The tuk tuks and taxis of Issan do not rip of the public in the same way, and the encroachment on public land, and the destruction of the national preserves is nowhere near its pathetic level elsewhere in Thailand. There may be human trafficking in the other border regions, but only in the Phuket region has it reached the point that it has caused normally quiet NGOs and governments to protest.

You talk like the minute the PTP red shirt Government took the reins of power they started rooting out corruption. Do you not find it strange that they really waited two years. Do you think if they were not under so much pressure for their own corruption and imitation government that they would still do it.

Or do you believe as I do they will do any thing to discredit a Democrat and take the focus off of their own bumbling inadequacy. Do you think there will be any convictions? If they catch a Taxi driver with out insurance they do nothing. Well actually they report them to the insurance industry. Some crime busters they are.

[hellodolly]

And which body is going to take the lead in cracking down on the corruption?

Well, right now, it is the PTP party government taking the lead on the island of Phuket.

There was absolutely, no effort made until the PTP won the election. Phuket is a Democrat bastion of power. There has always been corruption, but it only became so blatant, so brazen, so in your face after the coup. During the Thaksin era, it existed, but it was a shadow of the current state. The former Abhisit government did nothing to address the problem.

No doubt, there will be those that will chime in, with cries that Issan is corrupt, etc. Well, let me put it in terms that the critics will understand. No one physically assaults tourists in Udon or Ubon with the same frequency and gusto as they do in the Phuket region. The tuk tuks and taxis of Issan do not rip of the public in the same way, and the encroachment on public land, and the destruction of the national preserves is nowhere near its pathetic level elsewhere in Thailand. There may be human trafficking in the other border regions, but only in the Phuket region has it reached the point that it has caused normally quiet NGOs and governments to protest.

"No one physically assaults tourists in Udon or Ubon with the same frequency and gusto as they do in the Phuket region."

Could that be because of the relative numbers of tourists in those regions?

Have you considered that if a corrupt government was to make any attempt at preventing corruption, the first place it would happen would be in an opposition area? Is Phuket showing huge signs of anti-corruption, as promised for ALL of Thailand?

You saw right through him before I has time to get to the thread.

If they white wash Thaksin do you think he will be at the airport with the horde of red shirt goons for hire?