lemoncake Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Few hours ago Yingluck was ready to speak with him and now it so happens he is to be arrested. Good to see this government once again proved its truthness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sunisalom Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 'Stormed' the ministry and 'broke in' ?????? Reports all say they walked in....... FACT...... with little or no resistance from police guard on duty. Slight, ever so slight, error of reporting of events here.... as bloody usual. -mel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Here are the relevant laws: Apparently, article 215 of the Criminal Code targets a breach of the peace in reunion (more than ten people); article 365 targets the illegal entry in premises such as "offices". In this specific case, the inciter is punishable when the offence is committed by more than two persons. The law is nicely framed to target trade unions and the like, in my reading.... Those are the cases where such a law would be useful to target the person giving the order to occupy premises. An irony it is turned against someone supposedly denouncing illegality, but committing it on a daily basis... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 'Stormed' the ministry and 'broke in' ?????? Reports all say they walked in....... FACT...... with little or no resistance from police guard on duty. Slight, ever so slight, error of reporting of events here.... as bloody usual. -mel. Legally, "walking in" or "breaking in" is perfectly similar when you use the strength of numbers to be in a place where you are not authorized to be. And more particularly, according to Thai law, when you do not remove yourself from the premises upon request. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I dont think the people who follow him will accept that ...... careful , by playing with matches you can burn your finger and burn the whole house too . The Guy has clearly broken the law inciting people to take over building illegally and inciting violence Should be locked up ASAP I think many posters are missing the point. Arresting him won't solve anything. People grievances will still remain and they will just become more vocal. In fact arresting him could turn him into a martyr; an anti government symbol. And do you not think there will be other to replace him neither? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms22 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Remember, this man also has a murder charge hanging over him. Not a nice man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 There have been many arrest warrants for many people in Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Remember, this man also has a murder charge hanging over him. Not a nice man. You joking right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post monkeycountry Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 So is he going to surrender, or be a coward like the yellows claim Thaksin to be. First of all, he is not due to report to police until the 12th of December, which is more than 2 weeks from now. Secondly he did report to aknowledge charges of mass murder, so I doubt he is too worried about reporting to aknowledge charges of leading a bunch of people into some buildings 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 RT @tulsathit: Criminal court has approved warrant for Suthep arrest. via @jin_nation Well, we can now wait for the moment when the BIB try to put handcuffs on the guy. Should get interesting to say the least. If experience has shown us anything and yes the past may not prove a good predictor of the future), He will turn himself in in the near future and then be released on bail. If you look at other demonstrations in the past that has been the pattern when people on that side of the political divide are accused. If you look at recent history of people on the other side of the political divide it does not look even remotely similar. Then again as much as people might despise Suthep, he is nor Arisaman, Jatuporn, or Thaksin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 RT @tulsathit: Criminal court has approved warrant for Suthep arrest. via @jin_nation Well, we can now wait for the moment when the BIB try to put handcuffs on the guy. Should get interesting to say the least. The question should be, who dare to walk into the crowd and drag him out. I'm certain that wouldn't be a nice affairs don't you think? Would be nice to think that there existed within the Thai military a crack unit who could "deal" with him just as Seal 6 did with Bin Laden. Those the ones that crashed the chopper into his compound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Remember, this man also has a murder charge hanging over him. Not a nice man. I am hoping you just don't know any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anon467367354 Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 Does this law apply to the demonstrations in 2010? Burning tires, preventing people from working, storming a hospital to where people had to be evacuated? What about threatening to blow up a gas truck? I can't imagine what the charges would be for building tire structures or bamboo barricades. Pouring blood on public property, seems like a health hazard to me. Is there a law against telling people to bring their liter bottles of gasoline to burn down the country? The whole thing seems ludicrous, but that also seems to be the norm. What happened to the right to protest peacefully as Yingluck said people have the right to do? People do strange things when scared, obviously not very well thought out. This is fuel for the fire, and I have a feeling it's going to get nasty again, but not because of "mostly unarmed" protestors as so eloquently described of the red shirt supporters. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I dont think the people who follow him will accept that ...... careful , by playing with matches you can burn your finger and burn the whole house too . The Guy has clearly broken the law inciting people to take over building illegally and inciting violence Should be locked up ASAP Other than civil disobedience (of the peaceful sort) what has Suthep done to "incite violence"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Arrest him. He has turned completely insane since a while. A man in his condition should not be put in contact with other humans. Apparently he already made some people turn equaly insane too. Lock him up quickly and for as long as he lives before he provoques more damage to the country. Now rebelion and treason charge are more appropriate than ever Now, now Gerry - you are getting so excited that your spelling and grammar are getting messed up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthompson Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 spearheading the demonstration at the Democracy Monument Freedom of speech instigating people to stop working I do that all the time leading a massive intrusion into the Budget Bureau, Finance Ministry and Public Relations Department yesterday. The Public Relations Department is located adjacent to the Finance Ministry. I did not know that entering a public building is forbidden by law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Few hours ago Yingluck was ready to speak with him and now it so happens he is to be arrested. Good to see this government once again proved its truthness. Yay for Yingluck Red Reconciliation ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Few hours ago Yingluck was ready to speak with him and now it so happens he is to be arrested. Good to see this government once again proved its truthness. Yay for Yingluck Red Reconciliation ! That was an election promise was it not? Reconciliation. To re-unite a divided nation. Let's take a few seconds to reflect on how her reconciliation efforts have panned out............ Definitely room for improvement there I think! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted November 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2013 the fuse is burning both fast and short, this puppet government are indeed playing with fire. The issue of an an arrest warrant is in itself not a big problem provocative to a degree yes but to be expected. The problem is going to come when some hapless police personnel a re requested or ordered to implement that arrest warrant. Do the those in charge of the warrant execution consider it will be a smooth operation? Do they think that the anti government supporter led by Suthep are going to politely wai and let the police personnel through and then exit with Suthep cuffed up? I am of the opinion that the military will not wish to be seen to be involved in the matter. This move has the potential to act as the catalyst to a rerun of the 1973 protest and its aftermath if the military become involved along with the police. That being the case Thailand's current puppet government will find itself centre stage and the critics are going to be hostile as will the Thai people. the execution of this warrant whether by stealth at the dead of night or as a snatch and run operation will be the final spark of the fuse in the powder keg then the explosion of public wrath will be both seen and heard.at this moment in time the protest has been relatively orderly on all sides and noisy, some disruption to daily city life in Bangkok but nothing too dramatic.. Enter stage right the police and possibly the military and as I said it will e rerun of 1973, a large body count and a huge injury register all because of one creature and its lust for both ultimate power and revenge at any price. This puppet government it seems is willing to place both Thailand and its peoples on the Thaksin sacrificial altar of revenge and power lust. Indeed if Thaksin who professes to both love and miss Thailand why doesn't he call a halt to his puppet governments campaign? I can only say if this is a demonstration of Thaksins love for Thailand and its peoples I'd hate to see the results of a hate campaign against Thailand and its peoples It seems as if this current puppet government have let loose Pavlov's Dogs of War against both Thailand and its peoples. Let us hope that the dog catcher of sanity can snare and cage these dogs ere they savage and maul Thailand and its peoples at the behest of Thaksin and his puppets. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figglymiggly Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 RT @tulsathit: Criminal court has approved warrant for Suthep arrest. via @jin_nation Well, we can now wait for the moment when the BIB try to put handcuffs on the guy. Should get interesting to say the least. The question should be, who dare to walk into the crowd and drag him out. I'm certain that wouldn't be a nice affairs don't you think? Would be nice to think that there existed within the Thai military a crack unit who could "deal" with him just as Seal 6 did with Bin Laden. They done it with Sah Daeng....maybe they'll repeat the performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seashore Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 It is a matter of catching him first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calimotty Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Arrest him. He has turned completely insane since a while. A man in his condition should not be put in contact with other humans. Apparently he already made some people turn equaly insane too. Lock him up quickly and for as long as he lives before he provoques more damage to the country. Now rebelion and treason charge are more appropriate than ever Now, now Gerry - you are getting so excited that your spelling and grammar are getting messed up! Who cares about spelling and grammar? It's the truth that matters. Get a job in a school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 RT @tulsathit: Criminal court has approved warrant for Suthep arrest. via @jin_nation PLUS how about the beating up by his group of the journalist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Bad move. Never throw gasoline on a fire. This is escalating to levels nobody wants to see. Sorry to see it unfold. This may jus be a posturing move; they may not act in it directly - yet. If he surrenders, great - if he doesn't - they can call him a fugitive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Arrest him. He has turned completely insane since a while. A man in his condition should not be put in contact with other humans. Apparently he already made some people turn equaly insane too. Lock him up quickly and for as long as he lives before he provoques more damage to the country. Now rebelion and treason charge are more appropriate than ever Now, now Gerry - you are getting so excited that your spelling and grammar are getting messed up! Who cares about spelling and grammar? It's the truth that matters. Get a job in a school. Actually I was a university professor for many years - retired now, but I still recognise a lack of education when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I dont think the people who follow him will accept that ...... careful , by playing with matches you can burn your finger and burn the whole house too . Well ! Well!...........Is this another form of blackmail. Do something about this rabble rousing trouble maker Suthep and we will get tough with the law . You have to let us have our own way and do whatever we like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Police also charged him with verbally stimulating people Suthep Job Resume: ...Deputy Prime Minister... ...Member of Parliament... ...Verbal Stimulant... Edited November 26, 2013 by klauskunkel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Court approves arrest warrant against Suthep for Finance Ministry intrusion BANGKOK: -- The Criminal Court Tuesday approved a warrant for arrest of protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban. Suthep was charged with violating Article 215 and 365 of the Penal Code by leading more two persons to intrude into the compound of the Finance Ministry on Monday. -- The Nation 2013-11-26 Does anyone have that law to hand. It is illegal to ask 2 people to intrude into a government compound? How about 1? What is the charge? Trespass on public property? My lord, how on earth does every single food vendor in the country reconcile that one? ISA means mass gatherings are illegal in listed areas - all of BKK + 50KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The laws were on the books in 2010. The government at that time chose not to use them. The government today are using them. Simple really. Does this law apply to the demonstrations in 2010? Burning tires, preventing people from working, storming a hospital to where people had to be evacuated? What about threatening to blow up a gas truck? I can't imagine what the charges would be for building tire structures or bamboo barricades. Pouring blood on public property, seems like a health hazard to me. Is there a law against telling people to bring their liter bottles of gasoline to burn down the country? The whole thing seems ludicrous, but that also seems to be the norm. What happened to the right to protest peacefully as Yingluck said people have the right to do? People do strange things when scared, obviously not very well thought out. This is fuel for the fire, and I have a feeling it's going to get nasty again, but not because of "mostly unarmed" protestors as so eloquently described of the red shirt supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 They aren't going to dare to go in and get him. And this in no way pre-supposes that he is in anyway guilty of anything, it is just a charge. I wonder if this is like one of those warrants where the police call the accused up and say, we demand your presence at the police station in a week's time, and the person answer's, "sorry, I am a little tied up now". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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