Union slams THAI management over Bt6.3-bn 9-month loss

[jaiyen]

You get to read often that THAI get new aircraft to use on their vast designations

routs, but somehow, when I fly with them to Australia I find my self sitting in an

old plane, why is that I ask?

We fly from Perth to BKK regularly and for the last few years the planes were always like new with in seat entertainment. The food and service was OK too. Price for ticket was never more than $810 if you go at the right time e.g.February or November, from a goog Thai run travel agent (Far cheaper then Thai website price). Cant fault the service from Perth.

[ginjag]

The union man said " near every flight was full " and they still made a loss.( most of these flights are over expensive) ??????

If the flights were less expensive or were on par with other airlines I wonder what the losses would be then ???

This airline wants privatizing -urgent. all the management and board slung out. Total restructuring needed urgent.

Like most government set-ups too many in the trough, free-be seats, what a waste of a once big flag carrier that I used most trips, only used Thai smile 1 time-BUT that was o.k. BUDGET AIRLINE ???? Udon to Swampy 2,800 bht one way STUPID--3 persons return near 17,000 bht. and they are running at a loss, the aircraft was 90% full. a bottomless pit comes to mind.

I meant to add this to the above post.

And what about the four A340s stood rotting this airline is now a joke.

[khrab]

I fly a lot on Thai and yes the flights are mostly full. With high prices and full flights, the revenues must be going to overpaid executives which is the story of nepotism in Thailand. People in high paid jobs because they are either related or know someone who can get them the job. Service on most flights is around meal service time, the rest of the time you rarely see staff, long haul flight s are only long for passengers, crew are in back chatting and sitting around. Customer service is joke, can never get them on the phone. Looking for Star Alliance options now.

They have too much crew onboard. While other airlines have 3 pilots working on the flight deck (B747), TG has 4. (Thailand-Europe v.v.)

Even worse in the cabin. Too much crew. That's why they rush the service, close the blinds hoping passangers fall asleep and don't bother, so they can socialize with each other most of the flight time. When you sit in the business section main deck B747, you don't see any flight attendant for 6-7 hours.

[khrab]

They should put their male flight attendants into uniforms that actually fit. The current ones look like school uniforms. Two sizes too big.

That would save a lot of fabric.

[Bender]

its not real secret that Thai airways has always been the whore of the army...

I do have a couple of friend who work for the airline industry. While the economy class will pay for the flight itself, the company start to make a profit with the business and first class. If the airline give for free to the 6000 generals and their family free ticket, you understand that year after year they are making loss...

[bangon04]

The union man said " near every flight was full " and they still made a loss.( most of these flights are over expensive) ??????

If the flights were less expensive or were on par with other airlines I wonder what the losses would be then ???

This airline wants privatizing -urgent. all the management and board slung out. Total restructuring needed urgent.

Like most government set-ups too many in the trough, free-be seats, what a waste of a once big flag carrier that I used most trips, only used Thai smile 1 time-BUT that was o.k. BUDGET AIRLINE ???? Udon to Swampy 2,800 bht one way STUPID--3 persons return near 17,000 bht. and they are running at a loss, the aircraft was 90% full. a bottomless pit comes to mind.

First class and business do seem to be full most of the time - government officers, senior police and their families, Thai executives and their families. I was moved the other day from my assigned seat so that a family could sit together. Wonder how much they pay for all those tickets?

[Old Man River]

I am Star Alliance and my boss is a member of THAI's frequent flyer club, so we fly THAI often. Within Asia, we often have to change our plans as flights are overbooked. To Europe, the planes are often full, and I recently ran into the situation that I could not change my plans as THAI could not get me a different seat going back to BKK from Rome on the next two days due to overbooking. Yet, especially in Asia, THAIi prices are much, much higher (I just got a PAL ticket to Manila for 4,700 baht: the THAI was 17,000 +).

With full flights and higher prices, just how can THAI be losing so much when other airlines in competition with them are able to turn a profit?

You are assuming that they are charging all of their customers. If you are or have been in senior management there are lifelong perks, so I'm told.

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[EyesWideOpen]

Seems there has been a dramatic turn around in the fortunes of Thai airway since the dismissal of Piyasvasti Amranand......

Fired Thai Air CEO Blames Politics Over Business: Southeast Asia

"Piyasvasti oversaw a fleet modernization and cost cuts in 2009 that helped Thai Air rebound from its largest ever loss the year before to a record profit in 2010. The carrier slipped to another loss last year as fuel costs surged.......“Piyasvasti has done a great job, so there are concerns whether the new guy will be able to manage Thai Air as well as he did,” Sirima Dissara, an analyst at SCB Securities Co. in Bangkok, said yesterday by phone."

Here is my turn around plan. Drop the toadies from the board, stop handing out free tickets, and bring back

Piyasvasti Amranand......... Anyway thank god Thailand allows other airlines to fly here, or we would really

be in trouble...

[mrtoad]

I had the misfortune to fly THAI this week, Singapore to Bangkok.

The other leg of the flight was with Etihad between a singapore and Brisbane.

There is a huge difference in the level of service between the airlines. THAI has really gone down hill over the years, and they seem to think that there reputation from 20 years back gives them a degree of credibility. They are on the whole overpriced for what they provide. I was really surprised, on arrival that we were bused into the terminal, I'd expect that on some flights, but not from the national carrier.

As for freebies, that practice must have an impact upon the airline, seems every Somchai and Somporn who is connected to government gets free travel.

[belg]

time again to raise the price which are already since long more expensive than the competition in their old stuffy planes