February 2 election to go ahead as scheduled: PM Yingluck

[rubl]

The care-taking government could issue a royal decree.

I don't thin the government can issue a royal decree.

"The Prime Minister said that the amount of two trillion baht would come from both domestic and foreign funding sources. The private sector would also be urged to co-invest in various infrastructure projects under the plan. The Government would issue a royal decree to seek loans for the plan, to be approved by the House of Representatives and the Senate."

I don't think the government can issue a royal decree. Note the word ROYAL

H.M. the King will be presented the 'royal decree' for signature.

[tezzainoz]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

FYI it has been mandated by His Majesty the King. As Suthep forced this hand it now falls upon the EC to mediate with the caretaker government. The facts are they cannot. The constitution states that it must be held within 60 days. So be it. This part of Thailand's democracy like it or lump it.

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Unless you name is Taksin

Please read you thai history

[casualbiker]

Having the election as scheduled is simply to avoid breaking the law which is exactly what some wish the Gov to do. If it turns out there has to be another one after and 180 day delay that gives a further 6mths extension and some breathing space for all concerned. This I think would be a good thing

The moment Yingluck puts a foot wrong regarding the law and election rules the vultures will descend. Its not really got anything to do with the conflict, reforms and peace and all that. Yingluck is purely avoiding the traps shes being consistently pushed towards walking into by the likes of the EC the army the dems etc etc.

It really is a cross between a game of chess and musical chairs atm and everyone is petrified of what happens when the music stops

None of this btw helps Thailand

The care-taking government could issue a royal decree.

I don't thin the government can issue a royal decree.

"The Prime Minister said that the amount of two trillion baht would come from both domestic and foreign funding sources. The private sector would also be urged to co-invest in various infrastructure projects under the plan. The Government would issue a royal decree to seek loans for the plan, to be approved by the House of Representatives and the Senate."

I don't think the government can issue a royal decree. Note the word ROYAL

As another poster said. The government sends a request for a Royal decree. If the King agrees he signs. He very very rarely disagrees.

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[Nowhereman60]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

FYI it has been mandated by His Majesty the King. As Suthep forced this hand it now falls upon the EC to mediate with the caretaker government. The facts are they cannot. The constitution states that it must be held within 60 days. So be it. This part of Thailand's democracy like it or lump it.

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Unless you name is Taksin

Please read you thai history

I seen all 4 parts of King Naresuan and part 5 when it comes out. So don't tell me about Thai history.

[tilac2]

Good for Yingluck. Postponing the election would be perceived to be caving in to pressure and intimidation from the other side, and might encourage similar intimidation in future elections. As BF Skinner wrote in a quite different context: "The consequences of behavior determine the probability that the behavior will occur again".

[englishoak]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

FYI it has been mandated by His Majesty the King. As Suthep forced this hand it now falls upon the EC to mediate with the caretaker government. The facts are they cannot. The constitution states that it must be held within 60 days. So be it. This part of Thailand's democracy like it or lump it.

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Unless you name is Taksin

Please read you thai history

People assume things that were done in the past can be now, this isnt always the case.

Please note this constitution is not the same one and has certain stipulations that avoid the same problems as before specifically because of Taksin.

Please understand when you keep rewriting and introducing new constitutions every few years nothing is ever able to be consistent hence a lot of confusion of what can and cant be done legally.

every time there is a new constitution it means there is supposed to be a clean slate. What actually happens is it causes all this confusion of what is and isnt possible, not very helpful

[casualbiker]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

FYI it has been mandated by His Majesty the King. As Suthep forced this hand it now falls upon the EC to mediate with the caretaker government. The facts are they cannot. The constitution states that it must be held within 60 days. So be it. This part of Thailand's democracy like it or lump it.

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Unless you name is Taksin

Please read you thai history

People assume things that were done in the past can be now, this isnt always the case.

Please note this constitution is not the same one and has certain stipulations that avoid the same problems as before specifically because of Taksin.

Please understand when you keep rewriting and introducing new constitutions every few years nothing is ever able to be consistent hence a lot of confusion of what can and cant be done legally.

every time there is a new constitution it means there is supposed to be a clean slate. What actually happens is it causes all this confusion of what is and isnt possible, not very helpful

A government (caretaker) can request a Royal decree at any time.. It is a constitutional monarchy after all.

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[Mackie]

Good for Yingluck. Postponing the election would be perceived to be caving in to pressure and intimidation from the other side, and might encourage similar intimidation in future elections. As BF Skinner wrote in a quite different context: "The consequences of behavior determine the probability that the behavior will occur again".

How is it good for anyone? Anyone in touch with the reality knows that the election is bound to fail. Few billions of baht wasted. As for intimidation, all I see is fire bombs and hand grenades being thrown at opposition members and other people who support the anti-government protests. These are real and tangible examples of intimidation. The talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words.

[rubl]

Unless you name is Taksin

Please read you thai history

People assume things that were done in the past can be now, this isnt always the case.

Please note this constitution is not the same one and has certain stipulations that avoid the same problems as before specifically because of Taksin.

Please understand when you keep rewriting and introducing new constitutions every few years nothing is ever able to be consistent hence a lot of confusion of what can and cant be done legally.

every time there is a new constitution it means there is supposed to be a clean slate. What actually happens is it causes all this confusion of what is and isnt possible, not very helpful

Ah, but the constitution is not rewritten every times. For instance the difference between the 1997 and the 2007 constitution is minimal. Lots of clarifications and of course the big black blob of coup leader amnesty. The one for MP General Sonthi who having joined the Pheu Thai led coalition even voted in favour of his renewed amnesty in the 'blanket amnesty bill'. A bill which handling was the final straw for lots of Thai.

[Ulic]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

Not entirely sure I understand. I have read that the constitution says an election must be held within 90 days of parliament being dissolved.

Are you suggesting they the EC has the power to suspend the constitution? Even if they do and they did. How would moving back the election

date improve the situation. Suthep has said he is uninterested in any election and just wants to be named leader and name a personally

selected council. So just what result does anyone expect from moving the election back. Would it not make more sense to open the

registration period for the affected areas and the EC do its job and provide a safe venue for candidates to register. Then move ahead with the

election and let the people decide. I am no fan of Suthep or Thaksin but I am a fan of one person one vote. Vote selfishly or for the country.

Up to you.

Edited January 15, 2014 by Ulic

[whybother]

Having the election as scheduled is simply to avoid breaking the law which is exactly what some wish the Gov to do. If it turns out there has to be another one after and 180 day delay that gives a further 6mths extension and some breathing space for all concerned. This I think would be a good thing

The moment Yingluck puts a foot wrong regarding the law and election rules the vultures will descend. Its not really got anything to do with the conflict, reforms and peace and all that. Yingluck is purely avoiding the traps shes being consistently pushed towards walking into by the likes of the EC the army the dems etc etc.

It really is a cross between a game of chess and musical chairs atm and everyone is petrified of what happens when the music stops

None of this btw helps Thailand

The care-taking government could issue a royal decree.

I don't thin the government can issue a royal decree.

The government issues the decree which gets endorsed by the King, making it a Royal Decree.

[rubl]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

Not entirely sure I understand. I have read that the constitution says an election must be held within 90 days of parliament being dissolved.

Are you suggesting they the EC has the power to suspend the constitution? Even if they do and they did. How would moving back the election

date improve the situation. Suthep has said he is uninterested in any election and just wants to be named leader and name a personally

selected council. So just what result does anyone expect from moving the election back. Would it not make more sense to open the

registration period for the affected areas and the EC do its job and provide a safe venue for candidates to register. Then move ahead with the

election and let the people decide. I am no fan of Suthep or Thaksin but I am a fan of one person one vote. Vote selfishly or for the country.

Up to you.

Voting within 60 days of House dissolution. Some exceptions possible. Government can issue a royal decree to postpone.

Now as for voting, that's only part of democratic rights, responsibilities and duties. With some here putting emphasize on "winning elections" with suggestion that gives a mandate to do what one wants, democracy is simply ignored. Plan a visit to North Korea, they know how to let people vote.

[whybother]

Not entirely sure I understand. I have read that the constitution says an election must be held within 90 days of parliament being dissolved.

Are you suggesting they the EC has the power to suspend the constitution? Even if they do and they did. How would moving back the election

date improve the situation. Suthep has said he is uninterested in any election and just wants to be named leader and name a personally

selected council. So just what result does anyone expect from moving the election back. Would it not make more sense to open the

registration period for the affected areas and the EC do its job and provide a safe venue for candidates to register. Then move ahead with the

election and let the people decide. I am no fan of Suthep or Thaksin but I am a fan of one person one vote. Vote selfishly or for the country.

Up to you.

You don't read too well. The constitution says the election must be held between 45-60 days of parliament being dissolved.

[Nowhereman60]

Not entirely sure I understand. I have read that the constitution says an election must be held within 90 days of parliament being dissolved.

Are you suggesting they the EC has the power to suspend the constitution? Even if they do and they did. How would moving back the election

date improve the situation. Suthep has said he is uninterested in any election and just wants to be named leader and name a personally

selected council. So just what result does anyone expect from moving the election back. Would it not make more sense to open the

registration period for the affected areas and the EC do its job and provide a safe venue for candidates to register. Then move ahead with the

election and let the people decide. I am no fan of Suthep or Thaksin but I am a fan of one person one vote. Vote selfishly or for the country.

Up to you.

You don't read too well. The constitution says the election must be held between 45-60 days of parliament being dissolved.

[Robby nz]

As posted before

The EC has told Yingluck over and over again that the election can be postponed and given ways in which this can be done by citing clauses in the constitution.

The EC's sole job is to oversee and run elections therefore to do this they must know election law and how it applies to the constitution.

That makes them the experts on election law.

Yingluck says there must be an election even though it can not result in a parliament being formed.

[Asiantravel]

John Sudworth on BBC had this piece today

The protesters now occupying a number of road junctions in central Bangkok refused to attend. Whatever the timing, they intend to sabotage the poll, claiming that the prime minister will once again buy victory from millions of farmers with a massive programme of pork barrel kickbacks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25723902

has any mention been made of new pork barrel kickbacks this time? Surely they wouldn't dare this time around. And wouldn't it be interesting if the PTP simply go to the polls based on their track record so far?

Edited January 15, 2014 by Asiantravel

[Cricketnut]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

FYI it has been mandated by His Majesty the King. As Suthep forced this hand it now falls upon the EC to mediate with the caretaker government. The facts are they cannot. The constitution states that it must be held within 60 days. So be it. This part of Thailand's democracy like it or lump it.

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Unless you name is Taksin

Please read you thai history

I seen all 4 parts of King Naresuan and part 5 when it comes out. So don't tell me about Thai history.

And this is all Thai history? I bet you never knew that their has been a European as acting prime minister in Thai history.....

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[keemapoot]

As posted before

The EC has told Yingluck over and over again that the election can be postponed and given ways in which this can be done by citing clauses in the constitution.

The EC's sole job is to oversee and run elections therefore to do this they must know election law and how it applies to the constitution.

That makes them the experts on election law.

Yingluck says there must be an election even though it can not result in a parliament being formed.

Yup, thereby setting up possible grounds for a judicial coup. We'll see who gets checkmate in this game yet....

[tezzainoz]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

FYI it has been mandated by His Majesty the King. As Suthep forced this hand it now falls upon the EC to mediate with the caretaker government. The facts are they cannot. The constitution states that it must be held within 60 days. So be it. This part of Thailand's democracy like it or lump it.

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Unless you name is Taksin

Please read you thai history

I seen all 4 parts of King Naresuan and part 5 when it comes out. So don't tell me about Thai history.

My god are you for real

we are talking about Mr T when he posponed an election

I feel like I'm talking to a machine

[Cricketnut]

As posted before

The EC has told Yingluck over and over again that the election can be postponed and given ways in which this can be done by citing clauses in the constitution.

The EC's sole job is to oversee and run elections therefore to do this they must know election law and how it applies to the constitution.

That makes them the experts on election law.

Yingluck says there must be an election even though it can not result in a parliament being formed.

This can easily be achieved by holding by-elections after by - election until Tue 95% is achieved. So pls enlighten us on what the EC has proposed as alternative options. Even leading academics of this country are opposed to even trying to do this. And how will it benefit Thailand?

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[whybother]

My god are you for real

we are talking about Mr T when he posponed an election

I feel like I'm talking to a machine

When did Thaksin postpone an election?

[Nowhereman60]

I seen all 4 parts of King Naresuan and part 5 when it comes out. So don't tell me about Thai history.

And this is all Thai history? I bet you never knew that their has been a European as acting prime minister in Thai history.....

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It was Yul Brynner or was that Marlon Brando

Edited January 15, 2014 by Nowhereman60

[LevelHead]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

I think you are reading too much the Thai English newspapers.

Don't forget Thai newspapers have the ethics codes of perhaps North Korea. They can write any story and claim anything based on un-named sources.

The EC's sole role is to carry out elections. They have no authority to cancel or delay them, they are tasked with the execution of the election. And if it fails in any place they are responsible for running by-elections until all seats in Parliament are filled. Period, that is their job.

The caretaker government has correctly told them this is their job, they have no authority to delay the elections unless there is a National Emergency (like war etc..)

PTP did not offer a 3 month delay, you might find this was another sensational "source" story in the Thai media, no names mentioned. Which means it was never offered. All part of the protest backers PR campaign.

The forum was set up discuss what could be done, to gather opinions.

The conclusion of the meeting was that the EC should carry out its job, which is to carry out elections.

Under the Thai Constitution elections must be held in a fixed time period (in this case before end of Feb 6th 2014) and if its not then there is a breach and the caretaker PM will be out of a job and the courts will appoint a new PM. Only in the event of war or other National emergency can the government seek to delay. Nobody has the authority to delay the election if there is no National Emergency as defined in the Constitution.

In my opinion, of course.

Edited January 15, 2014 by LevelHead

[LevelHead]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

Genuine question seeking clarification as you seem to know to know a lot about the constitution. Please feel free to correct any of my points below if incorrect.

As I understand it, YL dissolved parliament and scheduled new elections for 02 Feb. This was given Royal approval and everything up to this point is within the law.

The EC is set up to oversee the election, to ensure that it is fairly conducted.

Because of the problems in the South preventing some candidates from registering, the EC is of the view that any elections will be nullified due to the lack of a quorum. They therefore suggest postponing it.

However, YL says that the Govt has no authority to postpone the poll - true or false?

She also said that the EC has no authority to postpone the poll - true or false?

Under what circumstances can either the Govt or the EC postpone the poll?

Luckily with the new Constitution the lack of quorum now means :

The caretaker government stay in power, as caretakers.

The EC must run by-elections, as many as needed and as many times as needed, until all seats are filled.

That is why PTP is saying go ahead with the election and anyone who says the lack of MP's is a problem is obviously not well versed with the by-election rules of the latest Thai Constitution,

Of course, its my opinion

Edited January 15, 2014 by LevelHead

[LevelHead]

The caretaker PM has the chance to solve the problem herself, (resign) and again she deligates others to do it for her. ( vote me out). She has had a couple of good years in the limelight, being waited on, and coached by her brothe and his cronies who were placed next to her. She is a walking, living example that some people will never learn to pour water out of a boot with instructions and a flashing light on the heel.

Wrong, again.

The caretaker PM is not allowed to resign during an election period.

If she were to resign she could be charged with negligence and end up in prison.

Caretaker PM's are not allowed to resign, simple as that.

Thats my opinion

[Nowhereman60]

Wow, people really spend their time reading the Thai Constitution. That's very impressive. You must be one hell of a smart people, or a lot of time on your hands.

[Gweiloman]

Now boys and girls - let's all gather round, and see the administration playing our favourite game " Let's Be Government ! " The rules are quite clear :

Rule number one : There are no rules ! Isn't that fun ? More fun coming up :

Rule number two : We can make up our own rules ! It gets even better :

Rule number three : We can change our mind whenever we want to !

As we come gradually back to Earth, it is hard to imagine a situation more inane as this from Pheu Thai. But we will try to yet again stress the obvious :

The EC is the sole authority for elections. What they say goes. Period. The Supreme Court has affirmed it. And now the Constitutional Court will likely affirm it as well. The administration says that the EC doesn't have this authority. That's called a constitutional crisis. They also say they don't have the authority themselves. Yet they have already contradicted themselves by proposing a three month election delay to the PDRC. The administration contradicts themselves yet again by stating that a forum they set up has the constitutional authority to make that decision. So Yingluck and Pheu Thai - apparently satisfied with all these contradictions, proclaims the meeting a stellar success. The conclusion of the meeting ? The EC is wrong and we are right. So there.

This would make sense if the administration was indeed playing a child's game. As they are not, this declaration shouts more clearly than any other that this administration has no longer any right to govern.

Genuine question seeking clarification as you seem to know to know a lot about the constitution. Please feel free to correct any of my points below if incorrect.

As I understand it, YL dissolved parliament and scheduled new elections for 02 Feb. This was given Royal approval and everything up to this point is within the law.

The EC is set up to oversee the election, to ensure that it is fairly conducted.

Because of the problems in the South preventing some candidates from registering, the EC is of the view that any elections will be nullified due to the lack of a quorum. They therefore suggest postponing it.

However, YL says that the Govt has no authority to postpone the poll - true or false?

She also said that the EC has no authority to postpone the poll - true or false?

Under what circumstances can either the Govt or the EC postpone the poll?

Luckily with the new Constitution the lack of quorum now means :

The caretaker government stay in power, as caretakers.

The EC must run by-elections, as many as needed and as many times as needed, until all seats are filled.

That is why PTP is saying go ahead with the election and anyone who says the lack of MP's is a problem is obviously not well versed with the by-election rules of the latest Thai Constitution,

Of course, its my opinion

If what you are saying it true, then it's checkmate already. I see no signs of a people's revolution in effect. What I see is lots of people turning up for a free concert.

p/s: the current singer just shouted in English, "the reason we are here is because of the b****y government" and the crowd cheered. I seriously doubt however than more than 10% understood what he just shouted. Mob mentality if ever there was one.

[englishoak]

As posted before

The EC has told Yingluck over and over again that the election can be postponed and given ways in which this can be done by citing clauses in the constitution.

The EC's sole job is to oversee and run elections therefore to do this they must know election law and how it applies to the constitution.

That makes them the experts on election law.

Yingluck says there must be an election even though it can not result in a parliament being formed.

And it is clear that the advice from the EC is not considered lawfully accurate. Which means if the gov takes the EC advice and the courts decide it was wrong the gov will be held accountable not the EC

The EC is not the legal expert authority on the rules it just has an opinion and if it were me knowing id be held accountable if the EC was wrong i wouldnt take any notice of them either.

[englishoak]

The caretaker PM has the chance to solve the problem herself, (resign) and again she deligates others to do it for her. ( vote me out). She has had a couple of good years in the limelight, being waited on, and coached by her brothe and his cronies who were placed next to her. She is a walking, living example that some people will never learn to pour water out of a boot with instructions and a flashing light on the heel.

Wrong, again.

The caretaker PM is not allowed to resign during an election period.

If she were to resign she could be charged with negligence and end up in prison.

Caretaker PM's are not allowed to resign, simple as that.

Thats my opinion

That is how i understand it too the rules are not the same for a caretaker PM as they are for an elected one, might sound stupid but TIT so hardly surprising.

[ChrisY1]

She is living in Cuckoo land

I often think I am also!