Two explosions rock Bangkok, Victory Monument and Rajvith Hospital

[whybother]

They are the police, they are the ones who are dam_n well expected to collect the evidence, who else do you want to collect it?

It is quite clear that the grenade attack on Friday was a complete frame up, even admitted now by an ex Democrat MP who alludes hsi subordinate is involved. The police were not even allowed in to the area, but yet it is them that are being dishonest???? or cannot be trusted?

The first grenade attack, the BMA removed the CCTV???

II am not sure you are in Thailand, i doubt it from reading your comments, but if you know a Thai person wherever (perhaps try a dating site) you are who has no affiliation to any politics, they find the whole thing a bit of a joke, and do not hold the police or Government responsible for any of this.

You keep mentioning this BS. The ex Democrat MP HAS NOT admitted that his subordinate is involved.

[ChrisY1]

for gods sake enough allready!

The army needs to go in now. A military coup is not as bad as people think. It has worked to ensure stability in Thailand before and can do so again.

At this stage..the army doesn't want to intervene....and rightly so...

Prayuth is going to retire soon....the last thing he needs now is to manage a country....hopefully his proposed retirement doesn't effect a coup should one be needed....but it is the Thai Army!

IMO a coup would turn the country upside down....nobody wants a coup.....and in reality, nobody wins!

[poisonus]

From a member 20 minutes ago:

Thai news reports bomb attack at Victory Monument.

An unknown man was seen throwing two bombs in to crowds of people. The protesters tried to apprehend the assailant but were shot at it.

Source was Nation TV.

More reason for the guards to be permitted to be armed.

Do people seriously expect the protesters to whistle at an armed attacker? I hope they get him and expose him for what he is.... A THAKSIN paid terrorist.

Did you ever think it might be suthep's people trying to get the army to come in?????????? Why do you always think thaksin????? You seem to be narrow minded. This is what suthep wants - blood in the streets.

Erm.... Because there were 2 grenades lobbed into crowds yet again today... The stage are where protest leaders are and where there families are.

I can understand provocative measures and am intelligent enough to know that this can happen, but not by throwing grenades in the most sensitive places where your family are.

These attacks are clearly aimed at scaring away the protesters, and today's attack was aimed at taking out PDRC leaders or their families members.

I think if you can't even see this logic, then my friend, your mind is about as wide as a drinking straw.

[robblok]

They are the police, they are the ones who are dam_n well expected to collect the evidence, who else do you want to collect it?

It is quite clear that the grenade attack on Friday was a complete frame up, even admitted now by an ex Democrat MP who alludes hsi subordinate is involved. The police were not even allowed in to the area, but yet it is them that are being dishonest???? or cannot be trusted?

The first grenade attack, the BMA removed the CCTV???

II am not sure you are in Thailand, i doubt it from reading your comments, but if you know a Thai person wherever (perhaps try a dating site) you are who has no affiliation to any politics, they find the whole thing a bit of a joke, and do not hold the police or Government responsible for any of this.

You keep mentioning this BS. The ex Democrat MP HAS NOT admitted that his subordinate is involved.

Red strategy repeat lies until they are believed.. keep calm and see through it.

[Tatsujin]

Where were the police when all this was going on ?

Someone throwing some sort of bomb then running or riding a motorbike shooting at those chasing him.

Surely there must have been some cops somewhere along his escape route.

Of course...there were bound to be cops everywhere........all have phones..radios....but none were able to stop anyone.....you'de laugh if it wasn't so serious.....!

Please don't say horrible things about the BiB, it's not their fault that the internet is shit today, Skype's not working and they haven't been told who to arrest yet and make a scapegoat of. You also have to understand that there are 1,000,000's of much more serious criminals riding around without their helmets and those of course are their number one priority - safety first after all.

[Local Drunk]

It's the "Respect my Vote" folks who have gone from red to white. Motto:We don't care who dies as long as we win.

Real democracy in action ain't it!

Edited January 19, 2014 by Local Drunk

[Prbkk]

Fortunately, it now seems that the injuries are less severe than initially thought. One person seriously injured. Is that correct? any update?

[metisdead]

A number of off topic posts and replies have been removed. Inflammatory posts and replies have been removed as well.

[icommunity]

No need to finger pointing. It is either staged by oppositions of the people elected government or the beginning of guerilla warfare. Both sides are at their desperate situation. When the enforcement of the rule of law is seen as non existence or not apply equaly, it is easy to take the law into your own hands.

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[Mackie]

From a member 20 minutes ago:

Thai news reports bomb attack at Victory Monument.

An unknown man was seen throwing two bombs in to crowds of people. The protesters tried to apprehend the assailant but were shot at it.

Source was Nation TV.

More reason for the guards to be permitted to be armed.

Do people seriously expect the protesters to whistle at an armed attacker? I hope they get him and expose him for what he is.... A THAKSIN paid terrorist.

This fits in with the Thaksin method of doing business. Those who dare suggest that these attacks are the work of the same side attacking the same side simply have lost the plot. If you study the red methodology then you see this fits the pattern. I don't want to see people blaming Suthep for this. I hope people can see behind the Thaksin facade, the red smile. We are dealing with a very nasrty movement who will only get worse whilst their backs are up against the wall.

Street vendors were hurt. I ask you. These are the good souls of our adopted land. Earlier there was an armed mob of circa 100 red shirts who confronted protestors in BKK. They were there at the behest of the Government's de facto leader and demanded that the protestors go home with threats about what will happen if they don't. Thaksin: the terrorist dictator in waiting, is backed by the USA. Why?

The whole Thaksin strategy from the start has been to wait it out. Things had been going as well as they could for Yingluck, mass protest didn't lead to much and the "Bangkok shut down" was only causing minor traffic inconvenience...

Every day that passed without violence brought us closer to elections,

First question a prosecutor or detective asks himself is : who profits from the crime? So I ask you, how are the grenades in anyway in Thaksin's interest?

You might as well ask the question why he financed and facilitated arm and weapons deliveries from Cambodia to North and Northeast of Thailand with the help of his mate Hun Sen? Also there is a certain red shirt supporter, who happened to be the associate professor at Thamassat University who openly admitted that red shirt/UDD supporters have been stockpiling arms and weapons in Bangkok for few months. By his own admission, some groups are out of control. It's a fact.

[Tanlic]

Thought Police were urged to step up Security around Protest Sites ?

What a bunch of Sergeant Schultz types (from the TV Show Hogan's Heros)they are.

"I See NOTHING....... NOTHING".

I passed Abahsit's house the next day after the firecracker/bomb attack and not a policeman or any sort of security to be seen.

During the last protest it was guarded 24/7 by a small a small army there and in neighboring sois.

There's a time for low profile but to do nothing after any sort of attck seems weird to me.

Anyway as pointed out earlier we can say goodbye to another xxxx thousand tourists this year.

I often wonder how many Taksin supporters lost their jobs at the hands of their own people when Central World was bamblasted

This is no different, peacefulor not peaceful, the financial damage these people are doing to thier own

These protesters are protesting about the wrong thing......they should be protesting against both leaders not sitting on their backsides and working out a solution

[DGIE]

The bomb, grenade, firecracker or whatever thrower maybe Ko Tee?

[Docno]

Do people seriously expect the protesters to whistle at an armed attacker? I hope they get him and expose him for what he is.... A THAKSIN paid terrorist.

Do you have to spew bizarre conspiracy theories in every post you make?

Bizarre?

More likely than the bizzare idea that it is Suthep attacking his own troops, don't you think?

Talk about black and white (or black vs white). You do realise that there are more possibilities than either Thaksin or Suthep being behind these attacks? What's with all the either-or thinking around here?

[whybother]

The whole Thaksin strategy from the start has been to wait it out. Things had been going as well as they could for Yingluck, mass protest didn't lead to much and the "Bangkok shut down" was only causing minor traffic inconvenience...

Every day that passed without violence brought us closer to elections,

First question a prosecutor or detective asks himself is : who profits from the crime? So I ask you, how are the grenades in anyway in Thaksin's interest?

"Every day that passed without violence brought us closer to elections" that won't produce a result.

Yingluck did the same thing as Thaksin in 2006. People are protesting corruption so Thaksin/Yingluck called an election, as if being elected is supposed to allow them to be corrupt.

The protesters are sick of it.

[pedro01]

From a member 20 minutes ago:

Thai news reports bomb attack at Victory Monument.

An unknown man was seen throwing two bombs in to crowds of people. The protesters tried to apprehend the assailant but were shot at it.

Source was Nation TV.

More reason for the guards to be permitted to be armed.

Do people seriously expect the protesters to whistle at an armed attacker? I hope they get him and expose him for what he is.... A THAKSIN paid terrorist.

This fits in with the Thaksin method of doing business. Those who dare suggest that these attacks are the work of the same side attacking the same side simply have lost the plot. If you study the red methodology then you see this fits the pattern. I don't want to see people blaming Suthep for this. I hope people can see behind the Thaksin facade, the red smile. We are dealing with a very nasrty movement who will only get worse whilst their backs are up against the wall.

Street vendors were hurt. I ask you. These are the good souls of our adopted land. Earlier there was an armed mob of circa 100 red shirts who confronted protestors in BKK. They were there at the behest of the Government's de facto leader and demanded that the protestors go home with threats about what will happen if they don't. Thaksin: the terrorist dictator in waiting, is backed by the USA. Why?

The whole Thaksin strategy from the start has been to wait it out. Things had been going as well as they could for Yingluck, mass protest didn't lead to much and the "Bangkok shut down" was only causing minor traffic inconvenience...

Every day that passed without violence brought us closer to elections,

First question a prosecutor or detective asks himself is : who profits from the crime? So I ask you, how are the grenades in anyway in Thaksin's interest?

Well if it discourages people from attending the protests, Thaksin does benefit, right?

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[Hardy99]

Remind me where I heard a political party address a crowd of it's followers from a stage and order an attack on a hospital(Siriraj IIRC), as well as the actual storming of another hospital. It fits a pattern although I am at a loss as to why team rouge feel the need to attack hospitals, don't suppose many of their members took the hippocratic oath?

Without drink to many Budweiser's no one can write such a bu....it. I heard from stage that the People where asked to sexualy violate the Primeminister or to hunt and kick out from Universities all "Snakes" just dont share the sick ideas of PCAD. Call for do crime is same as do it yourself... and heat up the People against each other is PCAD and Sutheps daily Business.. so who wonders when it gets fruitfull and Thai People are go killing Thai People just because of different thinking?! Sad, sad, sad!!! And you with your Team Rouge comment shure dont believe yourself what you wrote... Budweiser.. yes together with your Name "Jai dammmm" balances.. I guess thats all you know..

[Khonper]

Why is Suthep not bombed.

They don't bomb their own leader

[EyesWideOpen]

Chinese made hand grenades can be purchased for 700 Baht if u got connections. The yellow shirt TERRORISTS are now going to start crying FOUL now?... After all of the illegal destructive things they have done since Nov. 555 Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Another newbie pops out of the woodwork to start his shift in Thaksin's boiler room.

I have often wondered if there was a Thaksin funded spin control boiler room, but I have never seen

proof of it. In this day of social media and controlling perceptions, makes perfect sense.

[shiok]

From a member 20 minutes ago:

Thai news reports bomb attack at Victory Monument.

An unknown man was seen throwing two bombs in to crowds of people. The protesters tried to apprehend the assailant but were shot at it.

Source was Nation TV.

More reason for the guards to be permitted to be armed.

Do people seriously expect the protesters to whistle at an armed attacker? I hope they get him and expose him for what he is.... A THAKSIN paid terrorist.

Did you ever think it might be suthep's people trying to get the army to come in?????????? Why do you always think thaksin????? You seem to be narrow minded. This is what suthep wants - blood in the streets.

Erm.... Because there were 2 grenades lobbed into crowds yet again today... The stage are where protest leaders are and where there families are.

I can understand provocative measures and am intelligent enough to know that this can happen, but not by throwing grenades in the most sensitive places where your family are.

These attacks are clearly aimed at scaring away the protesters, and today's attack was aimed at taking out PDRC leaders or their families members.

I think if you can't even see this logic, then my friend, your mind is about as wide as a drinking straw.

Or as evil as the Shins!

[Lite Beer]

Two bombs explode at Victory Monument protest site
By English News

BANGKOK, Jan 19 - Two bombs exploded near a media tent at Victory Monument protest site on Sunday, injuring 28 persons, including one journalist from Post Today Newspaper, according to Erawan Emergency Medical Centre.

The 28 wounded, three of whom are seriously injured, were sent to different hospitals -- 2 to Phramongkutklao Hospital, 9 to Ramathibodi Hospital, 4 to Chulalongkorn Hospital and 13 to Rajavithi Hospital.

Protest leader Thavorn Senniam from the People's Demoratice Committee Reform (PDRC) said he was certain he was the bomb's target but as the bomb hit a tree branch, its trajectory changed.

Mr Thavorn admitted that he had been warned of an untoward incident to himself by a high-ranking officer from the Royal Thai Police Bureau.

According to witnesses, there were at least 6 wrongdoers, one of whom was described as wearing a green jacket and black pants getting on a motorcycle taxi to escape.

Meanwhile, another PDRC leader Satit Wonghnongtaey at Pathumwan stage said despite the violence, the number of protesters at Pathumwan Intersection has not dropped and the protest continued peacefully.

He said tomorrow's security measures will be further tightened. Demonstrators will be divided into three groups to march along Bangkok roads to shut down government buildings. However, the locations where the marches will proceed will not be disclosed.

On a related matter, Attaporn Suwatanadecha, Deputy Permanent-Secretary for Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA), announced that all schools under the BMA will be open tomorrow except Wat Pathum Wanaram School, which is between the protest sites of Pathumwan and Ratchaprasong intersections.

Srinakharinwirot University and its demonstration school will be open tomorrow as well, according to Asst Prof Dr Chalermchai Boonyaleepun, the rector, and Chavalit Soongyai, the school's director, respectively. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2014-01 19

[NCFC]

What is clear is that the administration and the police - who are no where to be seen during these atrocities except after the fact, in their apparent eager capacity to horde whatever evidence they find so that they can frame and control their own narrative - have become the " unwitting " enablers of atrocities committed on the streets in the clear light of day on the streets of Bangkok. The only protection the Thai people on the street have from the roaming vigilante armies who are out to annihilate them with grenades - are the police. Without the police, the Thai people are defenseless. When a perception is afoot, that there is an active reticence to protect the Thai people on the street - when that is apparent to those on the streets, we have the makings of a state which fails in its most basic moral duty to protect the lives of their own citizens. While the administration focuses all their attention and wrath on the peaceful protest itself, vigilante groups are now roaming the streets in order to punctuate their own special brand of democracy and their own special brand of terror. The administration can pretend to look the other way while these atrocities take place, but no one on the street will, no television crew will, and no international correspondents will. They - and the people of this country - will see what they see and they will ask the very same questions and make the very same observations. They will not be so easily swayed or controlled by the talking points of the police or of the administration. They will form their own narrative. And it will be a narrative based on fact and not on fiction.

Do you mean a fact like Friday's grenade attack has been linked to a subordinate of ex Democrat Kowit Tharana?

[Hardy99]

Remind me where I heard a political party address a crowd of it's followers from a stage and order an attack on a hospital(Siriraj IIRC), as well as the actual storming of another hospital. It fits a pattern although I am at a loss as to why team rouge feel the need to attack hospitals, don't suppose many of their members took the hippocratic oath?

To understand me right .. someone shoot or Smash Bombs is a crime and should get punished and get a hard time (red, yellow, blue, black or what Color ever..)!

But to heat up the People until they do such things... what is that??

Or may be that is just a "tic tac tactic" of some people who play with the lifes of others to involve the army? What and who ever they are - crime and brainless!!

[EBlair48]

From a member 20 minutes ago:

Thai news reports bomb attack at Victory Monument.

An unknown man was seen throwing two bombs in to crowds of people. The protesters tried to apprehend the assailant but were shot at it.

Source was Nation TV.

More reason for the guards to be permitted to be armed.

Do people seriously expect the protesters to whistle at an armed attacker? I hope they get him and expose him for what he is.... A THAKSIN paid terrorist.

The government has everything to lose by insitigating violence, whereas the mob have everything to gain. I'm sure Suthep is salivating in glee at this very moment, he is a step closer to the anarchy he so desperately needs to advance his agenda.

[firestar]

You might as well ask the question why he financed and facilitated arm and weapons deliveries from Cambodia to North and Northeast of Thailand with the help of his mate Hun Sen? Also there is a certain red shirt supporter, who happened to be the associate professor at Thamassat University who openly admitted that red shirt/UDD supporters have been stockpiling arms and weapons in Bangkok for few months. By his own admission, some groups are out of control. It's a fact.

Reminds me when the Truevisions signal went down couple years back and a yellow poster argued it could be Thaksin who through a backdoor in the satellite injected a virus as he prepared an invasion....

If you want to completely speculate about weapons you might want to look at the near civil war in the deep south and check out what is their weapon of choice.

Edited January 19, 2014 by firestar

[northernjohn]

I take it for what it is a confession that this is indeed a red shirt action. And if it is true then it shows how much worse they are the anti government protesters. Not that many people doubt that I mean they are the ones that burned BKK.

At least in 2010 they had enough nerve to not run away.

This in my opinion is the final straw. The red shirts and the PTP are so entwined that there is no way the government can claim innocence in this.

[Fookhaht]

As I watch the live protests on TNN I noticed these people are dragging their children into the midst of the protests.

Every parent who takes a child into this mayhem should be arrested and jailed on child endangerment. This is just another example of how thoughtless and uncaring these people are for those whom they inconvenience or endanger, including their own families.

This thoughtless act alone shows the true colors of these protesters.

Sent from my tin can via string

"into this mayhem"??

I would think that most protesters weren't expecting someone to come in and throw grenades. The protest out the front of my place has been more of a party than a protest. Certainly no "mayhem".

It can go from "party" to "mayhem" in a split second. It has done so a number of times at multiple locations now. Aye, there's the rub, matey.

And if you doubt that explosions/grenades can't produce instant "mayhem," then you've been playing too many sanitized war video games from the 1980's, Mr. Rosy-Lens.

Such is the serious latest warning from several foreign embassies to their citizens.

Enjoy your local "party" while it lasts. Meanwhile, I opt for prudence and safety for my kids.

Sent from my tin can via string

Edited January 19, 2014 by Fookhaht

[me313]

It's still a better situation than what has happened in Egypt--with police shooting and killing many peaceful protesters in the streets.

[Tatsujin]

Chinese made hand grenades can be purchased for 700 Baht if u got connections. The yellow shirt TERRORISTS are now going to start crying FOUL now?... After all of the illegal destructive things they have done since Nov. 555 Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Another newbie pops out of the woodwork to start his shift in Thaksin's boiler room.

I have often wondered if there was a Thaksin funded spin control boiler room, but I have never seen

proof of it. In this day of social media and controlling perceptions, makes perfect sense.

There is:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/685463-thai-govt-ups-ante-in-publicity-battle-with-protesters/

It coincided nicely with the huge increase of pro-Govt posters here on TV spouting the party line and their spreading of unsubstantiated rumours and out and out lies.

[kuka]

Wouldn't it be very nice if the election commission banned The party of the antigovernment protesters.

If they try to disrupt elections in February their party should absolutely be banned for life.

If there is ever been in abuse by a government political party.... the conduct of the yellow shirts have crossed over the line of decency for two months. And there getting away with it.

Hopefully when their leader is eventually put in jail he will be denied bail because he is certainly a risk to flee. He has disregarded orders to turn himself in back in early December.

No Bail for that LUNATIC SUTHEP.

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[AleG]

What is clear is that the administration and the police - who are no where to be seen during these atrocities except after the fact, in their apparent eager capacity to horde whatever evidence they find so that they can frame and control their own narrative - have become the " unwitting " enablers of atrocities committed on the streets in the clear light of day on the streets of Bangkok. The only protection the Thai people on the street have from the roaming vigilante armies who are out to annihilate them with grenades - are the police. Without the police, the Thai people are defenseless. When a perception is afoot, that there is an active reticence to protect the Thai people on the street - when that is apparent to those on the streets, we have the makings of a state which fails in its most basic moral duty to protect the lives of their own citizens. While the administration focuses all their attention and wrath on the peaceful protest itself, vigilante groups are now roaming the streets in order to punctuate their own special brand of democracy and their own special brand of terror. The administration can pretend to look the other way while these atrocities take place, but no one on the street will, no television crew will, and no international correspondents will. They - and the people of this country - will see what they see and they will ask the very same questions and make the very same observations. They will not be so easily swayed or controlled by the talking points of the police or of the administration. They will form their own narrative. And it will be a narrative based on fact and not on fiction.

Do you mean a fact like Friday's grenade attack has been linked to a subordinate of ex Democrat Kowit Tharana?

... and the lie has taken root.

Congratulations to the pro-government shills.