Pheu Thai seeks clearer explanation from Army

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Pheu Thai seeks clearer explanation from Army



BANGKOK: -- The Pheu Thai party spokesman today sought clearer explanation from the Army over yesterday’s disclosure by an Army spokesman that more troops would be deployed in wider areas to safeguard the safety of the people.

The outstanding spokesman Prompong Nopparit said the Army has said that in case of violent acts, the Army might come out to handle the situation.

He asked for clarification of the scope of the Army’s role and responsibility and the definition of its wording “come out”.

He questioned how should the Army come out, adding with fear that this might coincide with the call of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee Suthep Thaugsuban’s repeated call for the Army to come out to help protect the protesters from what he described as almost daily violent attacks that resulted in casualties.

Mr Prompong said if the Army came out same as in 2006 coup then it would be unacceptable by all the people and could add more trouble to voters.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pheu-thai-seeks-clearer-explanation-army/


-- Thai PBS 2014-01-30

[davehowden]

"The outstanding spokesman Prompong Nopparit ......."

Well he's a nice looking boy, granted, but outstanding, hardly.

[Tatsujin]

"The outstanding spokesman Prompong Nopparit ......."

Well he's a nice looking boy, granted, but outstanding, hardly.

Indeed. And shouldn't he be in jail already rather than fronting for Pheu Thai?

[Old Man River]

As long as the police do their job, why would YL's people be concerned?

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[bigbamboo]

The PM is the DM for heaven's sake! Can't she just ask them herself?

[ManopY]

"The outstanding spokesman Prompong Nopparit ......."

Well he's a nice looking boy, granted, but outstanding, hardly.

Indeed. And shouldn't he be in jail already rather than fronting for Pheu Thai?

Yes, for defamation but he is free on bail!!! (for now)!

Edited January 30, 2014 by ManopY

[lovetotravel]

As long as the police do their job, why would YL's people be concerned?

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I think that's the problem. The police aren't doing their job (never really do). The article is clearly wrong when saying this would be unacceptable by "all the people". Many love the army. They were there during the floods with the police nowhere to be found.

[Spartakos]

Protect the people, something police have failed to do perhabs.

[TVGerry]

What explanation do you need? Protestors are getting shot at, bombed and now fired up with grenade launchers. Protestors are dying. Since the police are incapable of doing their jobs, the Army will do it for them.

[Tatsujin]

"The outstanding spokesman Prompong Nopparit ......."

Well he's a nice looking boy, granted, but outstanding, hardly.

Indeed. And shouldn't he be in jail already rather than fronting for Pheu Thai?

Yes, for defamation but he is free on bail!!! (for now)!

He originally got a 2 year suspended sentence in June last year for Libel. This was later changed by the Appeals Court in December last year to 1 year, no suspension, no bail. And he's still walking around free fronting PT.

[Cuchulainn]

The Appeals Court on Thursday sentenced Pheu Thai party spokesman Prompong Nopparit and another Pheu Thai member to one-year imprisonment without suspension after finding them guilty of defaming the former president of the Constitution Court. (Dec 2013)

Another upstanding member of the moral and ethical PT party.

[Briggsy]

Sentenced to prison by the same judges now involved in ousting the elected government. For criticising the work of other judges. It doesn't get more Kafkaesque than that.

[siampolee]

One wonders whether there might be a case of upcoming loose bowels from the convicted P.T.P. spokesman due to the fact that he may yet end up in ''The Big House'' if his puppet master and his puppet lady should fail to achieve a dictatorship.

Seems as if he is now trying to enlist the support of the military to keep him out of "The Big House.''

Edited January 30, 2014 by siampolee

[Tatsujin]

Sentenced to prison by the same judges now involved in ousting the elected government. For criticising the work of other judges. It doesn't get more Kafkaesque than that.

Ah, so a la Thaksin, Pheu Thai and all the Govt get to pick and choose which laws they agree with and will submit to?

[fab4]

"The outstanding spokesman Prompong Nopparit ......."

Well he's a nice looking boy, granted, but outstanding, hardly.

Indeed. And shouldn't he be in jail already rather than fronting for Pheu Thai?

Yes, for defamation but he is free on bail!!! (for now)!

Do you know what the defamation case was about? it was about the dems allegedly lobbying the Constitutional Court over their dissolution case wrt the TPI Polene alleged illegal financing of 258 Million baht, allegedly caught on film but still denied.

Prompong had the temerity to call it a case of double standards and put the videos on you tube. This prompted abhisit to deny they had tried to influence the court saying that the party didn't need to as it was a "pillar for the country" - the Constitution Court, that is, not the democrat party, obviously.

The democrat MP allegedly shown in the video talking to Pasit a secretary of the President of the Constitutional Court was allegedly Wiruch Romyen,

http://www.phuketgazette.net/digitalgazette3/Content/October23-10.pdf?thequerytype=&id=76259&Cat=34

Obviously unrelated to these alleged events, Pasit was sacked shortly thereafter for damaging the courts "reputation" and on November 23rd Wiruch Romyen withdrew himself from the Democrat Party defence team fighting the dissolution cases.

Still, got to keep to the spirit of the Law eh,

Edited January 30, 2014 by fab4

[Tatsujin]

"The outstanding spokesman Prompong Nopparit ......."

Well he's a nice looking boy, granted, but outstanding, hardly.

Indeed. And shouldn't he be in jail already rather than fronting for Pheu Thai?

Yes, for defamation but he is free on bail!!! (for now)!

Do you know what the defamation case was about? it was about the dems allegedly lobbying the Constitutional Court over their dissolution case wrt the TPI Polene alleged illegal financing of 258 Million baht, allegedly caught on film but still denied.

Prompong had the temerity to call it a case of double standards and put the videos on you tube. This prompted abhisit to deny they had tried to influence the court saying that the party didn't need to as it was a "pillar for the country" - the Constitution Court, that is, not the democrat party, obviously.

The democrat MP allegedly shown in the video talking to Pasit a secretary of the President of the Constitutional Court was allegedly Wiruch Romyen,

http://www.phuketgazette.net/digitalgazette3/Content/October23-10.pdf?thequerytype=&id=76259&Cat=34

Obviously unrelated to these alleged events, Pasit was sacked shortly thereafter for damaging the courts "reputation" and on November 23rd Wiruch Romyen withdrew himself from the Democrat Party defence team fighting the dissolution cases.

Still, got to keep to the spirit of the Law eh,

Was this another "politically motivated" conviction then? Therefore it can be ignored? Or at some point, do those in power (on both sides), actually need to start following the law and submit to their rightful punishments?

[djjamie]

"Army has said that in case of violent acts, the Army might come out to handle the situation"

Prompong Nopparit's ears would have pricked up when he heard the word "violence". Any terrorist leader worth their salt would be jumping all over this. This man with a charge sheet nearly as long as his close aide and boss, Thaksin, will certainly be asking what the army means?

Unfortunately the acts of violence that have been perpetrated and will no doubt continue on Sunday will be that of the UDD terrorist wing of the PTP that have no qualms with violence in achieving their ends. The UDD violence is what the Army is referring to. The general aint no gullible dummy that needs his feeling protected as requested by Yingluck. This is the violence that Nopparit is talking about to. He wants to ensure that when the red shirts strike that the army will be on the police and red shirts side in attacking protestors in the name of 1 principle of democracy. Last thing he wants is the army protecting the protestors from the cancerous violence the UDD supporters and the police are itching to dish out.

UDD principle #3 - To promote non-violence as our modus operandi for all activities.

It should read - To promote non-violence as our modus operandi for all activities unless you disagree with us at which time we will smite you from the earth with a vengeance never before witnessed.

If they can't even stand behind their own principles how can you trust them to stand behind the principles of democracy!

What a joke.

Edited January 30, 2014 by djjamie

[h90]

As long as the police do their job, why would YL's people be concerned?

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I think if the police would do their job the elections would be the last of her concerns.

[fab4]

Yes, for defamation but he is free on bail!!! (for now)!

Do you know what the defamation case was about? it was about the dems allegedly lobbying the Constitutional Court over their dissolution case wrt the TPI Polene alleged illegal financing of 258 Million baht, allegedly caught on film but still denied.

Prompong had the temerity to call it a case of double standards and put the videos on you tube. This prompted abhisit to deny they had tried to influence the court saying that the party didn't need to as it was a "pillar for the country" - the Constitution Court, that is, not the democrat party, obviously.

The democrat MP allegedly shown in the video talking to Pasit a secretary of the President of the Constitutional Court was allegedly Wiruch Romyen,

http://www.phuketgazette.net/digitalgazette3/Content/October23-10.pdf?thequerytype=&id=76259&Cat=34

Obviously unrelated to these alleged events, Pasit was sacked shortly thereafter for damaging the courts "reputation" and on November 23rd Wiruch Romyen withdrew himself from the Democrat Party defence team fighting the dissolution cases.

Still, got to keep to the spirit of the Law eh,

Was this another "politically motivated" conviction then? Therefore it can be ignored? Or at some point, do those in power (on both sides), actually need to start following the law and submit to their rightful punishments?

One could argue that allegedly the various courts need to sort their act out before any kind of reform could usefully take place but that's not for me to say.

[gemini81]

Too bad he's not an outstanding listener or thinker.

Come out: as in if red shirt supporters instigate further violence and harm others, as you have time & again, and create a city under siege or hurt others, it is the army's duty to stop it. ....Not rocket science there, Mr. Outstanding Speaker. Seems like he expects them to define their every action they will do in response to various scenarios- but that is too hard to predict, other than the army would have to use whatever means are required from a capital under violent attack, burning, looting as it was not long ago.

Edited January 30, 2014 by gemini81

[BlueNoseCodger]

"Army has said that in case of violent acts, the Army might come out to handle the situation"

Prompong Nopparit's ears would have pricked up when he heard the word "violence". Any terrorist leader worth their salt would be jumping all over this. This man with a charge sheet nearly as long as his close aide and boss, Thaksin, will certainly be asking what the army means?

Unfortunately the acts of violence that have been perpetrated and will no doubt continue on Sunday will be that of the UDD terrorist wing of the PTP that have no qualms with violence in achieve their ends. This is the violence the Army is talking about. This is the violence that Nopparit is talking about to. He wants to ensure that when the red shirts strike that the army will be on the police and red shirts side in attacking protestors. Last thing he wants is the army protecting the protestors from the cancerous violence the UDD supporters and the police are itching to dish out.

UDD principle #3 - To promote non-violence as our modus operandi for all activities.

It should read - To promote non-violence as our modus operandi for all activities unless you disagree with us at which time we will smite you from the earth with a vengeance never before witnessed.

It wasn't the UDD that moved the march of the protestors past the building on the Friday bomb. It was PDRC that did that.

It was PDRC that claimed to find a bunch of evidence including the hand grenade pin.

It was PDRC that swapped the red 'walls icecream' cap for a more plausible army one. Showing the fakeness of the evidence they found.

Video shows one of their guys moving away from the bomb point to behind a column at the correct spot in the road to find the room with the evidence.

So no, he's not suggesting the UDD will do anything, he's suggesting the army is looking for an excuse to come out and help Suthep protect his protestors from angry voters.

Edited January 30, 2014 by BlueNoseCodger

[lovetotravel]

Sentenced to prison by the same judges now involved in ousting the elected government. For criticising the work of other judges. It doesn't get more Kafkaesque than that.

Ah, so a la Thaksin, Pheu Thai and all the Govt get to pick and choose which laws they agree with and will submit to?

I believe they've already said this, right? And this is a big reason they want to be re-elected. The amnesty bill can be enacted in May.

[fab4]

"Army has said that in case of violent acts, the Army might come out to handle the situation"

Prompong Nopparit's ears would have pricked up when he heard the word "violence". Any terrorist leader worth their salt would be jumping all over this. This man with a charge sheet nearly as long as his close aide and boss, Thaksin, will certainly be asking what the army means?

Unfortunately the acts of violence that have been perpetrated and will no doubt continue on Sunday will be that of the UDD terrorist wing of the PTP that have no qualms with violence in achieving their ends. The UDD violence is what the Army is referring to. The general aint no gullible dummy that needs his feeling protected as requested by Yingluck. This is the violence that Nopparit is talking about to. He wants to ensure that when the red shirts strike that the army will be on the police and red shirts side in attacking protestors in the name of 1 principle of democracy. Last thing he wants is the army protecting the protestors from the cancerous violence the UDD supporters and the police are itching to dish out.

UDD principle #3 - To promote non-violence as our modus operandi for all activities.

It should read - To promote non-violence as our modus operandi for all activities unless you disagree with us at which time we will smite you from the earth with a vengeance never before witnessed.

If they can't even stand behind their own principles how can you trust them to stand behind the principles of democracy!

What a joke.

Please elaborate on this allegation

"This man with a charge sheet nearly as long as his close aide and boss, Thaksin".

and the

"acts of violence that have been perpetrated and will no doubt continue on Sunday will be that of the UDD terrorist wing of the PTP"

You wouldn't be making things up for effect would you?

[gemini81]

Sentenced to prison by the same judges now involved in ousting the elected government. For criticising the work of other judges. It doesn't get more Kafkaesque than that.

Ah, so a la Thaksin, Pheu Thai and all the Govt get to pick and choose which laws they agree with and will submit to?

I believe they've already said this, right? And this is a big reason they want to be re-elected. The amnesty bill can be enacted in May.

Yet we have a lot of posters who fail to see examples like that are the very reason working class are on the streets and even farmers themselves disgruntled, knowing this is the very opportunity to end this Thaksin kleptocracy once and for all. May be no political saints here, but some are lesser evils than the little weasel in Dubai calling 'shots'

Edited January 30, 2014 by gemini81

[siampolee]

fab4 post # 23

Please elaborate on this allegation

"This man with a charge sheet nearly as long as his close aide and boss, Thaksin".

and the

"acts of violence that have been perpetrated and will no doubt continue on Sunday will be that of the UDD terrorist wing of the PTP"

You wouldn't be making things up for effect would you?

You only need to consult public records to access the charges against both Thaksin and Prompong.

Your orders, nay commands to prove known facts just highlights both your ignorance and your blind support of despotic corrupt law breaking characters.

You might do well to take note of the comments posted by Gemini81 in the post above mine, ''seek and ye shall find.''

Edited January 30, 2014 by siampolee

[kurtgruen]

"...then it would be unacceptable by all the people..." Don't be such a drama queen and don't EVER say "all the people", because Phuea Thai didn't even have 50% of the vote, in the last election. I for one would welcome the army and so would many other people, to put an end to this bulls*&t.

[ramrod711]

He asked for clarification of the scope of the Army’s role and responsibility and the definition of its wording “come out”.

Translation; exactly how many people can we shoot, bomb, maim and kill before you do something? Just asking, so we know when to stop.

[Cuchulainn]

Yes Fab 4

Your signature spouts "Will someone explain to me how 200,000 people and one madman can distort democracy and ride roughshod over the votes of 30 million voters?"

By not condoning vote buying, threats and intimidation.

Better watch me hubcaps at a red light!!

Taa raa chuck!!

Edited January 30, 2014 by Cuchulainn

[Scamper]

Who is still listening to this man ? Certainly not the army, who are likely fed up with Pheu Thai operatives telling them what they can or cannot do, or demand explanations for whatever statements are made. It seems extraordinary - but perhaps it isn't in the world of Pheu Thai - that announcements concerning deployments to ensure the safety of citizens would be regarded as anything other than what is necessary. But more than that, Pheu Thai - by raising these objections - is in danger of giving the impression that ensuring the safety of citizens does not coincide with their agenda.

[tonneke breda]

"Army has said that in case of violent acts, the Army might come out to handle the situation"

Prompong Nopparit's ears would have pricked up when he heard the word "violence". Any terrorist leader worth their salt would be jumping all over this. This man with a charge sheet nearly as long as his close aide and boss, Thaksin, will certainly be asking what the army means?

Unfortunately the acts of violence that have been perpetrated and will no doubt continue on Sunday will be that of the UDD terrorist wing of the PTP that have no qualms with violence in achieve their ends. This is the violence the Army is talking about. This is the violence that Nopparit is talking about to. He wants to ensure that when the red shirts strike that the army will be on the police and red shirts side in attacking protestors. Last thing he wants is the army protecting the protestors from the cancerous violence the UDD supporters and the police are itching to dish out.

UDD principle #3 - To promote non-violence as our modus operandi for all activities.

It should read - To promote non-violence as our modus operandi for all activities unless you disagree with us at which time we will smite you from the earth with a vengeance never before witnessed.

It wasn't the UDD that moved the march of the protestors past the building on the Friday bomb. It was PDRC that did that.

It was PDRC that claimed to find a bunch of evidence including the hand grenade pin.

It was PDRC that swapped the red 'walls icecream' cap for a more plausible army one. Showing the fakeness of the evidence they found.

Video shows one of their guys moving away from the bomb point to behind a column at the correct spot in the road to find the room with the evidence.

So no, he's not suggesting the UDD will do anything, he's suggesting the army is looking for an excuse to come out and help Suthep protect his protestors from angry voters.

Stop drinking red skirt Lao Kao and get an education, my 101 year old grandfather told, for some it is never too late to learn, you might be lucky…..

Edited January 30, 2014 by tonneke breda