Scores of people injured in bomb attack during anti-government rally in Trat

[trainman34014]

RIP to those lost and hopes for a speedy recovery for those injured.

Violence...the last refuge of the incompetent. I support neither side as it is not our business as Foreigners to do so despite what our personal thoughts may be but, it is plain for all to see that both sides are incapable of adult and decent behaviour and are therefore completely incompetent. All the leading protagonists on both sides should be either locked up for life or forced to leave the country. Thailand doesn't need any of them; period.

[NCFC]

We know who benefits if this attack brings a military coup a step closer.

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just when everyone though that the scum could not sink any lower we get this sh*t.

Address the point I make. This was a calculated attack. So who benefits if it causes the military to step in?

Of course you don't like the answer

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But then again, who benefits if it scares the protesters and makes them go home?

Of course you don't like the answer

In Trat they are at home and the injured include those not even protesting.

Meanwhile in Bangkok we have a man on stage goading government supporters and threatening them with popcorn shooters.

The threat of violence is being ratcheted up to new levels.

So who benefits if the army launches a coup?

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[Bluespunk]

Hasn't this been the strategy all along?

Set Thai people against Thai people, then the army comes in and grabs power, really just another front for a military coup!

Suthep will be there with his crocodile tears and the next day he'll be ramping up the veiled 'popcorn shooter' threats again, and more tshirts with 'popcorn army' on them to try to stir up anger.

Oh he just made another 'popcorn men' threat on Channel 3, and said he's invite them to dinner. Just now. Turn on channel 3, he's doing a full on attempt to forment civil war.

He's trying to get a military coup by formenting violence.

Disgusting post trying to shift focus of this thread. This was a cowardly attack carried out on peaceful protesters by fascist thugs. No one is to blame for, but those despicable cowards behind this crime.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Bluespunk

[zakk9]

On this series of Red-Shirt Cartoons you can see how they promote violence against those who think different than them.

Yesterday we saw the results

More here: http://pantip.com/topic/30746057

People really should see the cartoons in your link. Hopefully it is just the view of a few red shirts, but I worry it is not just a few.

No, we just want to vote for our government.

Violence serves no purpose if your are the majority government. Violence only serves coup-mongers and violent minorities interests.

I believe all the threats of popcorn men coming to kill us are intended to stir violence, which his friends in the military can then use as an excuse to have a coup.

You are wrong or ill informed. The reds have turned to violence on several occasions the last 10 years, they have chased away representatives from other parties during election campaigns, they have made threats towards citizens not wanting to vote for their candidate i red districts. There's nothing democratic about the reds.

[dominique355]

All violence must be condemned.

From this common point we can look back at events leading up to this and some common things.

Firstly, children should not be anywhere near to political protests, and protest leaders should discourange parents taking children to politicial protests. Sadly protest leaders see children and old people and monks as their "human shields" and so do not discourage irresponsible parents from taking children. They then milk the media should a child get hurt or worst still killed.

Secondly, it is disgraceful for Suthep and the PDRC to be mocking the police and government claiming they have popcorn warriers defending them who will kill and shoot police. This outrageous behaviour will stop many police from being too close to and therefore protecting protestors and protests. This outrageous behaviour will incite violence from a core element of Thai society that is violent. We all know that some police are linked with criminals, as are the Army as are the Elite of Bangkok as are politicians of all parties (just like the PDRC have thier popcorn warriers). They all have the power to put their criminal friends into gear to go out and shoot and kill for them - the outrageous mocking and batiing by Suthep has perhaps (and maybe not) led to this attack. Everyone should hang their heads in shame, the person who should do so the most is Suthep, his speeches of the last days have led to this.

Thirdly, its is disgraceful to read people accuse red shirts of doing this. Without a single shred of evidence they feel they can justify their own hate by blaiming the people they hate for doing something like this. Many people have been wronged by the PDRC and their protests. The police, the government, many business owners, many companies, many powerful politicians, many individuals, many voters or would be voters expressing their desire for democracy - there is a very long list of millions of people who feel they have been wronged by the PDRC's antics.

Fourthly there is always the potential for people who want military intervention to do false flag attacks to support this.

Nobody knows the truth as it stands and nobody knows who is to blame, but everyone has to condemn violence and condemn those who openly speak of supporting violence or having armed people in thier midst ready to shoot and kill.

In my opinion all of that, of course.

Firstly: Go have a look at the place where this happened. It was in the middle of a village with many roadside stalls where people normally go and have a noodle soup. How do you know that this mother actually attended the rally and did not just happen to be there? (Nobody knows the truth.... blablabla, but ready to blame.)

Secondly: Mocking the police? Give me a break! What police? They haven't done anything in this whole demonstration season except mock themselves.

Thirdly : Trat people have a long history of being Democrats and voting for the Dems. They have come "en masse" to Bangkok to protest against the Shinawatra government. Nobody in Trat has been wronged by Suthep.

Fourthly: It takes quite a sick mind to blame the protesters for this attack. Don't the Red Shirts have a history of brutal violence all around the country? (Remember 2010!) As they say in USA: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, chances are it IS a duck.

[StealthEnergiser]

could be connected to this information on a red propaganda site RN

February 20

"Without reveal much in details, RN had horrible conversations yesterday with influential political leaders in the Northeast, they are beyond anger at Suthep, PDRC, invisible force, Democrats, independent organisations for blatantly destroy the rule of law. They are also complaint about Government's inertia and naiveté for co-operating with the enemies of democracy for the past two years and seemingly mismanaging its responses to the crisis with ineptitude. They seem resign to go alone if the worst situation develops."

https://www.facebook.com/UDDInternationalNews

[Rich teacher]

If you say so but he was justifying this violence.. by putting cause and effect into play. Obviously he and I have a different idea about cause and effect.

Let me 1st say, this is a sick attack & a tragedy. Also, the situation Thailand finds itself in is tragic & I can only hope for some peaceful solution, no matter how unlikely it looks.

But as for stating this is clearly the work of Thaksin; that is just drivel.

By far the most outrageous and blatant acts of violence we have seen since the start of this movement have been from the protesters side and from the soldiers supporting them. 4 soldiers have already been charged with attempted murder after a drive by shooting. Suthep has openly stated that he 'loves' soldiers armed with war weapons paralysing innocent bystanders. I think you should look through your hate mist for Thaksin & see this movement & its leader for what it is.

You are either deluded or in denial.

Of the over 600 wounded and 18(?) deaths till now, the vast majority have fallen on the protesters side, or are the continuing grenade attacks and shootings of rally sites not outrageous and blatant acts of violence? The deaths of two police officers, while still not clear who is responsible, have been roundly condemned by all sides here as unacceptable.

Slight correction: the 4 soldiers implicated by the one confessing witness have not been charged, but questioned. The suggestion that 4 trained soldiers would hire an untrained 'extra-man' to carry out such a sensitive operation is in itself questionable, but if they are guilty let them be sentenced.

Blatant & outrageous, meaning in broad daylight, and/or having been caught on film. With all the blame that has been piled on the reds (particularly here in TV) not one has been caught or charged.

[ScouseTommy]

Why are people taking children to these protests? I have a five year old daughter and therefore those pictures of her in the hospital hit me pretty hard. I remember in 2010, people holding screaming babies above barricades in Bangkok. Leave the kids at home!

Exactly, Jucel!!!

I remember the many posts in TV from the yellow apologists saying "why are they taking kids to their rally".

But they suddenly change their mantra that bringing a kid to a PDRC (aka Rambo) rally is OK.

Bunch of brainwashed whistle blowers.

May the girl rest in peace and Suthep ever pay for the crimes he is doing now.

The girl was eating dinner at a market, not protesting!!! How many times does this need to be said?Apologist this apologist that. Spout your political rubbish and make yourself feel terribly self important. All that matters is a little girl died eating dinner. It was murder and there is no justification

[TVGerry]

On this series of Red-Shirt Cartoons you can see how they promote violence against those who think different than them.

Yesterday we saw the results

More here: http://pantip.com/topic/30746057

People really should see the cartoons in your link. Hopefully it is just the view of a few red shirts, but I worry it is not just a few.

No, we just want to vote for our government.

Violence serves no purpose if your are the majority government. Violence only serves coup-mongers and violent minorities interests.

I believe all the threats of popcorn men coming to kill us are intended to stir violence, which his friends in the military can then use as an excuse to have a coup.

[added, so now we see who comes forward and attempts the military coup option and we know who is behind the violence]

Well yes always deny guilt and always blame someone else.

[Mot Leei]

Maybe you should read the report a bit more closely before posting

Which of the thousands of reports I've read over the last few months doesn't still add up to the same result .... you hurt people continually and eventually they'll fight back .... you unfortunately think the reds are the only people unhappy with Suthep ... by now there must be so many more people wanting to hurt him and the professionally armed protestors for all the pain they suffered at his hands

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The girl was not at the protest, they were eating noodles at the market nearby. But dont let that get in the way of blaming Suthep.

Again you miss my point. I doubt any grenade or gun fire was aimed at little girls eating in noodle shops ... it was aimed at protestors. The protestors are attracting violence because of their intimidation tactics and innocents are getting hurt ... this is the concept behind using an SOE ... to try to protect innocents from the harm the protestors are causing.

As a parent myself, if you bring your violent protest near my restaurant I'd leave very quick smart ... only a stupid parent would sit so close to such a powder keg ...

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[otherstuff1957]

Attacks like this one will may very well be on the increase. I say 'may' because we won't know if the "Shinawat" stocks will slide further when the SET opens on Monday.

Thaksin has a history of responding violently to threats to his finances. The 2010 redshirt protests started after his 46 billion was seized. At the same time as the protests were going on a concerted bombing campaign directed at Bangkok Bank was being carried out. The bombing finally stopped when Abhisit and Thaksin made a quiet backroom deal to unfreeze a few billion baht of his money. Bangkok pundit's blog had a few well-researched articles documenting this.

If the stock market losses end, so will the violence. If it does not, more protesters will pay for Thaksin's losses with their lives.

[monkeycountry]

For the record, even though I lean towards PT government policies, I condemn these sort of violence and hope that the injured will recover quickly and that loved ones will also recover from their extreme emotional distress.

I understand also the outpouring of anger from some TV posters towards what they consider vile and sick posts. However, looking at some of these "vile and sick" posts, I don't read them as justifying the violence but instead, explaining the actions.

No government in the world can control small groups of radicals and extremists. In the case of Thailand, the courts, the army, CC, EC etc etc have rendered the government even more powerless. Whilst this was being done, the anti govt supporters here on TV were cheering and congratulating each other. You have obviously not seen beyond the day to this day, to the reactions of some small groups of anti-protestors.

I will not take a leaf out of jollyman but instead put here a Chinese saying - "if you force a tiger into a corner, the tiger can no longer retreat and have no choice but to attack".

If like some of you think, that the govt is on the back foot (not through the ballot box but through court manipulations), then this is not unexpected. I have said previously that if PT is ousted via a judicial coup, then the current protests are child's play compared to what will inevitably happen.

p/s: sorry if above not too clear, have a massage appointment in 10 mins, so rushing this

I'm sorry to piss on your parade, but what you are saying is ludicrous. When PTP is elected, those that don't support them are expected to accept the will of the majority gracefully. But when PTP proves to be both inept and corrupt and the will of the majority turns against them, their supporters turn into cornered tigers, and killing of those with other views is to be expected, if not justified?

Is this how "red democracy" works, our way or die? There was no election in Trat last night, nobody blocking booths or disrupting commerce, just a group of people expressing their disgust at this charade of a government. So what are your "cornered tigers" using to justify simple bloody murder?

http://pantip.com/topic/30746057

It is called propaganda, and clearly the orders are "kill those who oppose the PTP and the red shirts".

[fab4]

Trat is only 4 hours away from Korat where the ever peace-loving UDD are being entertained by the never incendiary Jatuporn 'let Bangkok burn' Prompan and Tida 'fake farmers' Thavornset.

But of course the 'at least 35 people injured' (Associated Press) must have shot and bombed themselves.

Quite pathetic attempt at linkage. Can you not try and put aside your fanaticism when tragic events like this occur.

Why don't you spare a while to put your thoughts towards the dead and injured instead of towards how best to exploit the situation to score cheap political points.

Pathetic and disgusting attitude.

Kettle calling pot!

Do you really think it a coincidence that this attack has happened in a solidly Democrat area in the same weekend that the UDD have been gathered for a 'pep-talk' to 'beat the war-drum'?

Or should we just put it down to 'PDRC fascists' on a weekend self-harm binge?

I'm thankful that you aren't trying to defend this attack like your fellow-travellers, but your attempt to deflect attention from the very likely culprits is as thin as your supposed moral outrage.

My moral outrage is real. Your accusation is pathetic as are your continuing attempts to make political points. Reminds me of a saying

"As an outsider, what are your views on the human race?"

[mrtoad]

On this series of Red-Shirt Cartoons you can see how they promote violence against those who think different than them.

Yesterday we saw the results

More here: http://pantip.com/topic/30746057

People really should see the cartoons in your link. Hopefully it is just the view of a few red shirts, but I worry it is not just a few.

No, we just want to vote for our government.

Violence serves no purpose if your are the majority government. Violence only serves coup-mongers and violent minorities interests.

I believe all the threats of popcorn men coming to kill us are intended to stir violence, which his friends in the military can then use as an excuse to have a coup.

[added, so now we see who comes forward and attempts the military coup option and we know who is behind the violence]

More propaganda, laced with numerous half truths and innuendo.

[gadeloo]

On this series of Red-Shirt Cartoons you can see how they promote violence against those who think different than them.

Yesterday we saw the results

More here: http://pantip.com/topic/30746057

People really should see the cartoons in your link. Hopefully it is just the view of a few red shirts, but I worry it is not just a few.

No, we just want to vote for our government.

Violence serves no purpose if your are the majority government. Violence only serves coup-mongers and violent minorities interests.

I believe all the threats of popcorn men coming to kill us are intended to stir violence, which his friends in the military can then use as an excuse to have a coup.

[added, so now we see who comes forward and attempts the military coup option and we know who is behind the violence]

Vote this vote that? what are you even vote for? do you even know? another fail scheme that will ruin country further?

or is it because you didn't pay that much of tax that you don't care where it come from or where it goes?

I have yet to see any major scheme that this government brought out become successful.

and please do not try do defend any of those scheme. if you still continue vote for a party that bring no future to the country.

then you really need to rethink if you are insane or just plain ignorant.

"insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different result."

Albert Einstein

Edited February 23, 2014 by gadeloo

[LevelHead]

All violence must be condemned.

From this common point we can look back at events leading up to this and some common things.

Firstly, children should not be anywhere near to political protests, and protest leaders should discourange parents taking children to politicial protests. Sadly protest leaders see children and old people and monks as their "human shields" and so do not discourage irresponsible parents from taking children. They then milk the media should a child get hurt or worst still killed.

Secondly, it is disgraceful for Suthep and the PDRC to be mocking the police and government claiming they have popcorn warriers defending them who will kill and shoot police. This outrageous behaviour will stop many police from being too close to and therefore protecting protestors and protests. This outrageous behaviour will incite violence from a core element of Thai society that is violent. We all know that some police are linked with criminals, as are the Army as are the Elite of Bangkok as are politicians of all parties (just like the PDRC have thier popcorn warriers). They all have the power to put their criminal friends into gear to go out and shoot and kill for them - the outrageous mocking and batiing by Suthep has perhaps (and maybe not) led to this attack. Everyone should hang their heads in shame, the person who should do so the most is Suthep, his speeches of the last days have led to this.

Thirdly, its is disgraceful to read people accuse red shirts of doing this. Without a single shred of evidence they feel they can justify their own hate by blaiming the people they hate for doing something like this. Many people have been wronged by the PDRC and their protests. The police, the government, many business owners, many companies, many powerful politicians, many individuals, many voters or would be voters expressing their desire for democracy - there is a very long list of millions of people who feel they have been wronged by the PDRC's antics.

Fourthly there is always the potential for people who want military intervention to do false flag attacks to support this.

Nobody knows the truth as it stands and nobody knows who is to blame, but everyone has to condemn violence and condemn those who openly speak of supporting violence or having armed people in thier midst ready to shoot and kill.

In my opinion all of that, of course.

Firstly: Go have a look at the place where this happened. It was in the middle of a village with many roadside stalls where people normally go and have a noodle soup. How do you know that this mother actually attended the rally and did not just happen to be there? (Nobody knows the truth.... blablabla, but ready to blame.)

Secondly: Mocking the police? Give me a break! What police? They haven't done anything in this whole demonstration season except mock themselves.

Thirdly : Trat people have a long history of being Democrats and voting for the Dems. They have come "en masse" to Bangkok to protest against the Shinawatra government. Nobody in Trat has been wronged by Suthep.

Fourthly: It takes quite a sick mind to blame the protesters for this attack. Don't the Red Shirts have a history of brutal violence all around the country? (Remember 2010!) As they say in USA: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, chances are it IS a duck.

Firstly, my original post said ANYWHERE NEAR......

if the PDRC set up a protest site near me, I would go away, I would avoid it. I certainly would not allow my kids to be anywhere near it.

It is said the PDRC guards (maybe some popcorn warriers) were eating noodles at the shop, which is why it was targetted. Would you allow your children to be near to PDRC guards ?

Secondly, the police are doing their job with the constraints they have. They have been told by the Army repeatedly to not use force, not use tear gas. They have the courts holding their hands behind their backs. What do you expect the police to do when they are not allowed to be police by the other forces that control Thailand ?

Thirdly, not everyone in Trat supports the PDRC or Democrats. Why was their only 500 people at the protest and not tens of thousands. Tens of millions of people have been wronged by the PDRC in some way, shape or form.

Fourthly, the cycle of violence was started in 2008 by the PAD/Yellow shirts. They used violence as a means back then, which has started this cycle of violence and protests.

All in my opinion of course.

Edited February 23, 2014 by LevelHead

[ScouseTommy]

This is a disgraceful and unjustifiable act, carried out by fanatical terrorists. It doesn't matter what side carried this out, the rest of the world will simply see Thai killing Thai and now killing Thai children. This is, and should be a massive loss of face for the whole of Thailand. A five year old girl is eating with her family and is shot in the head??? The politics and power hungry maniacs in this country have brought the people to a new low

So many are posting on this and seem to be either red or yellow. Why (as farang) can you not see the grey area's. Life isn't black and white.

PTP are a failed government even with majority support. They are corrupt and the populist policies they have pushed have failed.The UDD led by people in Khaki and wearing berets threaten war and death if they don't get their way. They have already burnt BKK once.

The Dem's and Suthep constantly lie. Suthep has spent says throwing vile sexual innuendo and insults at YL. Why? You dont need to sink so low, she is a failure. PDRC are on stage joking about popcorn killers. How is this funny? Are you all so jaded that as long as it is your side shooting it is ok? Please dont tell me about the grenade being dropped by a cop. Load of rubbish it was thrown by persons unknown from the ranks of the protesters. No one is innocent in this FUBAR mess.

Both sides are armed and both are as bad as each other. For the record these protests were peaceful in the beginning. The shutdown actually caused BKK to run smoother. The roads were emptier, less traffic, walking streets that worked quite well. Things only turned nasty when peaceful protesters started being bombed and shot at. The protesters did not retaliate. Then we had an emergency law enacted to prevent more attacks on protesters. The attacks increased and the law was only ever used to target protests!! The police throughout were conspicuous in their absence. At no time have we heard the Gov't condemn these vicious attacks and there has been no large scale police investigation. Now the protesters are armed as well and we get closer to major battles in BKK.

I am not defending the reds or PCAD/PDRC I am saying you can have a political opinion on what is best for Thailand, but surely you can see the grey area's? Both sides are corrupt. Both sides are using automatic weapons. Both sides are using the people as pawns in a power grab. Stop trolling and blindly supporting your colour. Show a modicum of Intelligence and condemn the things that are wrong (regardless of who is doing it), and praise the things that are right. Every single person on TV has to condemn these actions, because there is no moral justification for terrorism.

Rant over >.<

I think you will find that most anti government supporters on TV are not supporters of Suthep, they are simply against PTP/Shinawatra.

I think there are a lot of Suthep supporters out there, or why did they give him millions of Baht cash? Regardless that was not the point of the post. I am sick of ridiculous one sided posts, from red and yellows. Always defending one sides actions and condemning the other. We are all grown ups (well most of us), and know right from wrong. We should be able to condemn ALL of the things that are wrong regardless of our political preference. For instance it would be nice for a red to come on and say- Taksin basically murdered 2000 people in a crack down of drugs, and should serve his sentence for corruption if he wants to return. It would be good if a yellow came on and said Abhisit should be brought to account for his role in the crackdown, it should be done in view of the public by an unbiased court. The problem is, no one wants to be honest about there sides role in all of this. If we believe the reds, then the army burnt down Central world. If we believe the yellows then it was the policemans fault at Pan Fa as his friend dropped the grenade. Utter nonsence. In light of a little girl being killed I just thought it may bring the fanatical farang element to there senses. Obviously not

[wave]

We know who benefits if this attack brings a military coup a step closer.

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just when everyone though that the scum could not sink any lower we get this sh*t.

Address the point I make. This was a calculated attack. So who benefits if it causes the military to step in?

Of course you don't like the answer

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But then again, who benefits if it scares the protesters and makes them go home?

Of course you don't like the answer

Maybe you have failed to notice but most protesters have gone home already.

[slipperylobster]

Again you miss my point. I doubt any grenade or gun fire was aimed at little girls eating in noodle shops ... it was aimed at protestors. The protestors are attracting violence because of their intimidation tactics and innocents are getting hurt ... this is the concept behind using an SOE ... to try to protect innocents from the harm the protestors are causing.

As a parent myself, if you bring your violent protest near my restaurant I'd leave very quick smart ... only a stupid parent would sit so close to such a powder keg ...

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Your point is non-existant. The attack was indiscriminate. They shot at a noodle shop and a stage.... wreaking death in a random, senseless way...

This is the same way terrorists work.... cowardly attacks on both innocents, and enemies....as long as it happens, and gets in the news.

Certainly it is obvious that they did not care of children/innocents were shot. They were not sharpshooters, and no targets were assigned. It was a bumbling, vicious act without regard to human life and democratic (yes the courts ruled it was ok) protest.

The surprising thing, with communications being as it is...and more than likely the presence of surveillance cameras, (wouldn't you want to watch what might happen?) ... how in the hay did the vehicles not get identified and a perimeter of possible escape routes manned?

[xtof2]

F****** bastard. Whoever he is.

RIP little princess.

[seajae]

If you say so but he was justifying this violence.. by putting cause and effect into play. Obviously he and I have a different idea about cause and effect.

Let me 1st say, this is a sick attack & a tragedy. Also, the situation Thailand finds itself in is tragic & I can only hope for some peaceful solution, no matter how unlikely it looks.

But as for stating this is clearly the work of Thaksin; that is just drivel.

By far the most outrageous and blatant acts of violence we have seen since the start of this movement have been from the protesters side and from the soldiers supporting them. 4 soldiers have already been charged with attempted murder after a drive by shooting. Suthep has openly stated that he 'loves' soldiers armed with war weapons paralysing innocent bystanders. I think you should look through your hate mist for Thaksin & see this movement & its leader for what it is.

You are either deluded or in denial.

Of the over 600 wounded and 18(?) deaths till now, the vast majority have fallen on the protesters side, or are the continuing grenade attacks and shootings of rally sites not outrageous and blatant acts of violence? The deaths of two police officers, while still not clear who is responsible, have been roundly condemned by all sides here as unacceptable.

Slight correction: the 4 soldiers implicated by the one confessing witness have not been charged, but questioned. The suggestion that 4 trained soldiers would hire an untrained 'extra-man' to carry out such a sensitive operation is in itself questionable, but if they are guilty let them be sentenced.

Blatant & outrageous, meaning in broad daylight, and/or having been caught on film. With all the blame that has been piled on the reds (particularly here in TV) not one has been caught or charged.

and why do you think that is..... maybe due to the fact that the police, ptp, thaksin, chalerm, tarit etc are backing them to do exactly what they are is the reason but dont let the truth get in the way of your bias and garbage rantings.

[johnthompson]

This is a cowardly attack on innocent lives where children were massacred. Protesting is a fundamental human right that should be respected by all parties. I can not even believe that some people here are trying to justify this attack. They are blaming the parents for leaving their children near a protest site or blaming the PDRC for provoking the attack. This is just insane and the world upside down.

[Melyn]

Why are people taking children to these protests? I have a five year old daughter and therefore those pictures of her in the hospital hit me pretty hard. I remember in 2010, people holding screaming babies above barricades in Bangkok. Leave the kids at home!

Exactly, Jucel!!!

I remember the many posts in TV from the yellow apologists saying "why are they taking kids to their rally".

But they suddenly change their mantra that bringing a kid to a PDRC (aka Rambo) rally is OK.

Bunch of brainwashed whistle blowers.

May the girl rest in peace and Suthep ever pay for the crimes he is doing now.

The girl wasn't at the rally. She was at an adjacent market.

Besides, this wasn't Bangkok and it wasn't Udon Thani

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[Red Snake]

Things are seriously getting out of hand. Something need to be done to bring peace before more people are killed or injured in these hate attacks. Both sides talk to help bring these attacked to a halt. Suthep hate speeches does not help matters with his popcorn man jokes. This attack could be revenge for the shooting of police this week. But innocent children being killed is too much. Sit down and talk work something out for the sake of the country.

[fleeing]

On this series of Red-Shirt Cartoons you can see how they promote violence against those who think different than them.

Yesterday we saw the results

More here: http://pantip.com/topic/30746057

People really should see the cartoons in your link. Hopefully it is just the view of a few red shirts, but I worry it is not just a few.

No, we just want to vote for our government.

Violence serves no purpose if your are the majority government. Violence only serves coup-mongers and violent minorities interests.

I believe all the threats of popcorn men coming to kill us are intended to stir violence, which his friends in the military can then use as an excuse to have a coup.

[added, so now we see who comes forward and attempts the military coup option and we know who is behind the violence]

More propaganda, laced with numerous half truths and innuendo.

+1

When the protesters are attacked without retaliating they are supposedly attacking themselves.

When they are defended from attacks they are threatening their opponents.

[tominbkk]

And now the true side of the PTP and REDS emerge.

[dickyknee]

Terrorism is the systematic use of violence (terror) as a means of coercion for political purposes. In the international community, terrorism has no legally binding, criminal law definition.[1][2] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts that are intended to create fear (terror); are perpetrated for a religious, political, or ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians). Some definitions now include acts of unlawful violence and war. The use of similar tactics by criminal organizations for protection rackets or to enforce a code of silence is usually not labeled terrorism, though these same actions may be labeled terrorism when done by a politically motivated group. Usage of the term has also been criticized for its frequent undue equating with Islamism or jihadism, while ignoring non-Islamic organizations or individuals.[3][4]

wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

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[JRSoul]

On this series of Red-Shirt Cartoons you can see how they promote violence against those who think different than them.

Yesterday we saw the results

More here: http://pantip.com/topic/30746057

People really should see the cartoons in your link. Hopefully it is just the view of a few red shirts, but I worry it is not just a few.

No, we just want to vote for our government.

Violence serves no purpose if your are the majority government. Violence only serves coup-mongers and violent minorities interests.

I believe all the threats of popcorn men coming to kill us are intended to stir violence, which his friends in the military can then use as an excuse to have a coup.

[added, so now we see who comes forward and attempts the military coup option and we know who is behind the violence]

Did you actually look at the link? A disgusting string of cartoons advocating, in EVERY CASE, violence against anti-government "dogs". And to make it worse it is being carried out be children, usually a young girl (I am assuming used to represent the "innocent" Yingluk).

Do you think the constant repetition of the image of a young girl smashing out the brains of a dog is aimed educated and reasonable people?

[Melyn]

Many children injured last night. Kid of 3 with shrapnel wounds.

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[seajae]

All violence must be condemned.

From this common point we can look back at events leading up to this and some common things.

Firstly, children should not be anywhere near to political protests, and protest leaders should discourange parents taking children to politicial protests. Sadly protest leaders see children and old people and monks as their "human shields" and so do not discourage irresponsible parents from taking children. They then milk the media should a child get hurt or worst still killed.

Secondly, it is disgraceful for Suthep and the PDRC to be mocking the police and government claiming they have popcorn warriers defending them who will kill and shoot police. This outrageous behaviour will stop many police from being too close to and therefore protecting protestors and protests. This outrageous behaviour will incite violence from a core element of Thai society that is violent. We all know that some police are linked with criminals, as are the Army as are the Elite of Bangkok as are politicians of all parties (just like the PDRC have thier popcorn warriers). They all have the power to put their criminal friends into gear to go out and shoot and kill for them - the outrageous mocking and batiing by Suthep has perhaps (and maybe not) led to this attack. Everyone should hang their heads in shame, the person who should do so the most is Suthep, his speeches of the last days have led to this.

Thirdly, its is disgraceful to read people accuse red shirts of doing this. Without a single shred of evidence they feel they can justify their own hate by blaiming the people they hate for doing something like this. Many people have been wronged by the PDRC and their protests. The police, the government, many business owners, many companies, many powerful politicians, many individuals, many voters or would be voters expressing their desire for democracy - there is a very long list of millions of people who feel they have been wronged by the PDRC's antics.

Fourthly there is always the potential for people who want military intervention to do false flag attacks to support this.

Nobody knows the truth as it stands and nobody knows who is to blame, but everyone has to condemn violence and condemn those who openly speak of supporting violence or having armed people in thier midst ready to shoot and kill.

In my opinion all of that, of course.

Firstly: Go have a look at the place where this happened. It was in the middle of a village with many roadside stalls where people normally go and have a noodle soup. How do you know that this mother actually attended the rally and did not just happen to be there? (Nobody knows the truth.... blablabla, but ready to blame.)

Secondly: Mocking the police? Give me a break! What police? They haven't done anything in this whole demonstration season except mock themselves.

Thirdly : Trat people have a long history of being Democrats and voting for the Dems. They have come "en masse" to Bangkok to protest against the Shinawatra government. Nobody in Trat has been wronged by Suthep.

Fourthly: It takes quite a sick mind to blame the protesters for this attack. Don't the Red Shirts have a history of brutal violence all around the country? (Remember 2010!) As they say in USA: If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, chances are it IS a duck.

Firstly, my original post said ANYWHERE NEAR......

if the PDRC set up a protest site near me, I would go away, I would avoid it. I certainly would not allow my kids to be anywhere near it.

It is said the PDRC guards (maybe some popcorn warriers) were eating noodles at the shop, which is why it was targetted. Would you allow your children to be near to PDRC guards ?

Secondly, the police are doing their job with the constraints they have. They have been told by the Army repeatedly to not use force, not use tear gas. They have the courts holding their hands behind their backs. What do you expect the police to do when they are not allowed to be police by the other forces that control Thailand ?

Thirdly, not everyone in Trat supports the PDRC or Democrats. Why was their only 500 people at the protest and not tens of thousands. Tens of millions of people have been wronged by the PDRC in some way, shape or form.

Fourthly, the cycle of violence was started in 2008 by the PAD/Yellow shirts. They used violence as a means back then, which has started this cycle of violence and protests.

All in my opinion of course.

what you are saying is totally pathetic. My 14 y/o daughter was raped and murdered in Sydney while taking the train to visit her grandparents. Until you have had your life destroyed by a pathetic self indugent action like this you have no idea at all how it feels to lose a child but going by your rants it was my fault because I let her catch a train. You are scraping the bottom of the barrel with this crap, blaming the parents when it is your "mates" doing the killing is as low as you can get, making up excuses to try to remove the foot you have stuck in your mouth even more so.