Piichai Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 2 violent attacks against peaceful protests and even markets in 2 days We are still waiting for any sympathetic comment from PM and government Hopefully the government is waiting the situation to be clear before reacting. Unlike many posters on this thread! If you believe that somehow the government will not condemn the death of children, I believe you are wrong. Well, they haven't yet. If I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wave Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 One thing I noticed about the pics taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack is the total lack of a police presence. This is on the street just outside Big C and is not near any stages. It's the middle of one of Bangkok's biggest shopping districts, and no police. First responders were the army and rescue crews. The police didn't show up until the army had apprehended some possible suspects. The lack of a police presence, in light of all the terrorist activity is most disturbing. Do they not care about the security of shoppers on the busy weekend? It"s right in the middle of the protest stage, the whole of Ratchaphrasong is taken over by the rally, from the junction at Sukhumvit to Pratunam The police are unable to go into these areas (they are perceived as not neutral) and security is provided by PDRC guards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post icommunity Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Sounds like a 5 or 6 year old boy was killed. Anyone that pushes blame onto parents for the death of a son will be reported by me. I hope every poster that reads this does the same. Have some respect for the dead. You are only showing your true colors when you do what you do. It is not the parents fault. It is the terrorists fault. Shame. I don't think anyone is blaming the parents for the deaths directly, but children should not be anywhere near danger, and in case you haven't realized, these places have become very dangerous lately. Go ahead, report this post if you want. But in case my point wasn't clear enough already ill say it again - childrens safely should be put above politics. that means getting those children out of the danger zones immediately. Look at the photos the children were at stalls selling clothes among other things, they were NOT at any protests. Anywhere near danger, like roads ? Give it a rest you red lot you are just making your cause worse by your disgusting posts. dont you dare politicize this. the protest sites and the areas surrounding it are ALL danger zones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile by terrorists you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xminator Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 One thing I noticed about the pics taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack is the total lack of a police presence. This is on the street just outside Big C and is not near any stages. It's the middle of one of Bangkok's biggest shopping districts, and no police. First responders were the army and rescue crews. The police didn't show up until the army had apprehended some possible suspects. The lack of a police presence, in light of all the terrorist activity is most disturbing. Do they not care about the security of shoppers on the busy weekend? PRDC don't let them in. And that is the main problem right now. Any police presence that is even close to contain the situation get targeted first. We've seen repeatedly the last months what happens when riot police are assembled. If riot police where to form a impenetrable circle around the protest site(s), someone inside that perimeter would say "crackdown" and the shit hits the fan again. I'm just afraid that it will not be enough to end the protests. I have a feeling we're starting to see southern violence spreading in Thailand. It is possible to see a motive by people with similar attitude as we get reminded about on a daily basis from the southern provinces. I dont believe Sutheps funders are cold hearted enough to do this, and I fail to find a plausible motive for PT to use such tactics. They are after all the winners if Thailand hold elections. In civilized countries, protests would have to be cleared with the police before they happen. In the same countries protests can be denied by police if the risk of violence is there. If protests still go ahead they are then illegal, and the protest can risk beeing broken up. Thats international standards. And the only peacefull way to oppose when police break up is to sit down and remain passive while police carry you away. Any resistance and its per definition NOT peacefull. That is international standards. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prbkk Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 One thing I noticed about the pics taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack is the total lack of a police presence. This is on the street just outside Big C and is not near any stages. It's the middle of one of Bangkok's biggest shopping districts, and no police. First responders were the army and rescue crews. The police didn't show up until the army had apprehended some possible suspects. The lack of a police presence, in light of all the terrorist activity is most disturbing. Do they not care about the security of shoppers on the busy weekend? The Police cannot go into the protest zones. This shop is 100 metres away. It is an area packed with vendors, even more so since the protests started. Of course, bombs don't discriminate...if children are there they will get hit like everyone else. We all saw what happened to the police when they were " caught" at a protest. Bashed, and then interrogated by the monk. Yes, it's a shocking tragedy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsupdoc Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 One thing I noticed about the pics taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack is the total lack of a police presence. This is on the street just outside Big C and is not near any stages. It's the middle of one of Bangkok's biggest shopping districts, and no police. First responders were the army and rescue crews. The police didn't show up until the army had apprehended some possible suspects. The lack of a police presence, in light of all the terrorist activity is most disturbing. Do they not care about the security of shoppers on the busy weekend? It"s right in the middle of the protest stage, the whole of Ratchaphrasong is taken over by the rally, from the junction at Sukhumvit to Pratunam The police are unable to go into these areas (they are perceived as not neutral) and security is provided by PDRC guards. Unless they moved it, the stage is near the skytrain, quite far from BigC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeamchabangLarry Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile That is so disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile Yet another lie, the court did no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile What is keeping the police from making progress on any of the dozens of grenade and shooting attacks against the anti-government protesters and bystanders? Not one single arrest, no suspects, no leads, no nothing and thus the attacks continue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icommunity Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile by terrorists you mean? Hahahaha, you are trying to change subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 This is disgusting. This is Bankgok NOT Bagdhad people. This rubbish needs to stop now !It is a clan war by any another name. No religious division to plumb,but it is an us against them clan battle for power. Of course one clan wants absolute total power and will use extreme violence to get it. And the other side just wants to stop being the victim of the first side, it's kleptocracy and vindictive facade of democracy government. One clan already has the power. Remember? We had elections and a government. There was peace until Suthep came along. So who is the other side that is trying to get power using violence? There is no peace until there is justice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icommunity Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile Yet another lie, the court did no such thing. Hahahaha, either you are not up-to-date or lie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerdee123 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 One thing I noticed about the pics taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack is the total lack of a police presence. This is on the street just outside Big C and is not near any stages. It's the middle of one of Bangkok's biggest shopping districts, and no police. First responders were the army and rescue crews. The police didn't show up until the army had apprehended some possible suspects. The lack of a police presence, in light of all the terrorist activity is most disturbing. Do they not care about the security of shoppers on the busy weekend? you are correct ..... let the facts speak for themselves. The suspects were caught by the soldiers... if the police had been there they would have probably already released the two that were caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile by terrorists you mean? Hahahaha, you are trying to change subject. No, just trying to delouse a rarely-held opinion on here that blowing up children selling shirts / noodles is justified because they were at /near some protest site. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almafudd Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Sounds like a 5 or 6 year old boy was killed. Anyone that pushes blame onto parents for the death of a son will be reported by me. I hope every poster that reads this does the same. Have some respect for the dead. You are only showing your true colors when you do what you do. It is not the parents fault. It is the terrorists fault. Shame. I don't think anyone is blaming the parents for the deaths directly, but children should not be anywhere near danger, and in case you haven't realized, these places have become very dangerous lately. Go ahead, report this post if you want. But in case my point wasn't clear enough already ill say it again - childrens safely should be put above politics. that means getting those children out of the danger zones immediately. Look at the photos the children were at stalls selling clothes among other things, they were NOT at any protests. Anywhere near danger, like roads ? Give it a rest you red lot you are just making your cause worse by your disgusting posts. dont you dare politicize this. the protest sites and the areas surrounding it are ALL danger zones. Are you serious??? "dont you dare politicize this. the protest sites and the areas surrounding it are ALL danger zones." What like YOU did there in post #6 "enough is enough, Suthep should go to the negotiating table NOW instead of inflaming the situation on a daily basis with his rhetoric." POT KETTLE and BLACK comes to mind. " The pot calling the kettle black The phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" is an idiom used to claim that a person is guilty of the very thing of which they accuse another. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevelHead Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 check out the video on richard's twitter of the kids being loaded into ambulances after being hit by the bomb at Big C. Not a bomb as such it seems. Initial reports say its a 40mm grenade launched from an M79 somewhere in the vicinity.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M79_grenade_launcher Often used by NAVY SEALS............... The tuk-tuk driver has been released and the army and police appear to have no idea who did this. I bet the people whose photos have been posted around everywhere accusing them of being the bomber will perhaps now be taking legal action against the people posting those photos on various places around the internet. All in my opinion of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Sounds like a 5 or 6 year old boy was killed. Anyone that pushes blame onto parents for the death of a son will be reported by me. I hope every poster that reads this does the same. Have some respect for the dead. You are only showing your true colors when you do what you do. It is not the parents fault. It is the terrorists fault. Shame. I don't think anyone is blaming the parents for the deaths directly, but children should not be anywhere near danger, and in case you haven't realized, these places have become very dangerous lately. Go ahead, report this post if you want. But in case my point wasn't clear enough already ill say it again - childrens safely should be put above politics. that means getting those children out of the danger zones immediately. The protest site in Trat was not perceived as a danger zone. Today's indiscriminate attack was not a danger zone. It was in front of a shopping centre away from the rally stages where there were only innocent shoppers. "These places" that you are referring to after yesterday's and today's terrorist attacks seems to be all of Bangkok and most of the DEM strong holds now. So that means children should not be allowed out doors according to your analogy. BTW - You still have not answered my question regarding the enemies of the PDRC building up. I can see who they are now though and those enemies are in fact the enemies of any decent law abiding citizen. Not just enemies of the PDRC. After these despicable acts and WHEN yinglcuk does not come out and denounce them or call for calm then we will see how many extra enemies of the PTP there are. As it stands now they are loosing friends and support faster than a UDD supporter can say ATTACK! The red shirts used children as human shields in 2010 in direct line of fire. This is children shopping and enjoying a rally in the far South East where there has never been any thing like this happen before. PDRC popcorn gunners were with the PDRC. An element of the PDRC were violent. Look were their guns were pointed at though. Look at who they were shooting? It was not kids and innocent civilians. It was people shooting back at them. So before you start to lecture me about who is blaming who maybe you should look within your self and see what you support. Before you say we don't know it was the Red Shirts have a look at the reaction of the UDD in the video I posted before when they heard about the Trat terrorist attack. There was not any sad faces in the crowd. Lets put it that way. That is what you support. Now lets hear you make excuses for the reaction of 4000 peaceful UDD supporters that never said they were going to hurt anyone when they came to Bangkok and while they were at a meeting entitled "Beat the war drum" Are you that stupid and gullible? Edited February 23, 2014 by djjamie 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Animals! Sent from my Nexus 5 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I do wish people would stop referring to these hideous soulless human beings as 'animals'. Stupid ignorant cliche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almafudd Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow 7m 7:30pm Reports coming in now that a second child has died in the attack in Trat. If true, that will make 3 children dead today #Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AleG Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 It's certainly wrong to celebrate people being killed, but it could also be an indicator that the attacks were not the work of red shirts. Why would red shirts have to celebrate at the news of an attack against the PDRC if they were responsible for it? They would already be aware of the attack, no need to cheer at the news. The mind boggles, it really does. Are you really that ***** or are you simply trolling? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) The report that indicated the suspect threw a device just as he "parked his car" sounds very doubtful to me. There is nowhere to park there. It is not possible and particularly not without the special pass given by security PDRC. It doesn't sound right, not that it is any less sad Edited February 23, 2014 by Prbkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almafudd Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile Yet another lie, the court did no such thing. Hahahaha, either you are not up-to-date or lie. All the courts said to the police was they can enforce the law 'lawfully' (paraphrased). I posted this to another nonsense post you made about this subject earlier today. If you can provide me with evidence to the contrary I will admit my mistake and apologize- balls in your court matey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile What is keeping the police from making progress on any of the dozens of grenade and shooting attacks against the anti-government protesters and bystanders? Not one single arrest, no suspects, no leads, no nothing and thus the attacks continue. Hahaha, you don't know that the police were barred from entering crimes scenes by the 'peaceful protest' methods of the dem's pdrc/pcad? Hahaha, changing subject again. Oh yes, the protests were peaceful and unarmed, just children playing war games. LOL. That´s right, children, three dead today. And you condone this acts of terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piichai Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Sounds like a 5 or 6 year old boy was killed. Anyone that pushes blame onto parents for the death of a son will be reported by me. I hope every poster that reads this does the same. Have some respect for the dead. You are only showing your true colors when you do what you do. It is not the parents fault. It is the terrorists fault. Shame. I don't think anyone is blaming the parents for the deaths directly, but children should not be anywhere near danger, and in case you haven't realized, these places have become very dangerous lately. Go ahead, report this post if you want. But in case my point wasn't clear enough already ill say it again - childrens safely should be put above politics. that means getting those children out of the danger zones immediately. Look at the photos the children were at stalls selling clothes among other things, they were NOT at any protests. Anywhere near danger, like roads ? Give it a rest you red lot you are just making your cause worse by your disgusting posts. dont you dare politicize this. the protest sites and the areas surrounding it are ALL danger zones. Only when the Red Shirts are around. Have you no shame? Cowardly acts such as murdering children are sure to get the international press' attention, and not in a good way for the Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Everyone is speculating madly and just reinforcing their own prejudices. Pretty shameful on both sides. Edited February 23, 2014 by brewsterbudgen 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icommunity Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails . Send from my Mobile by terrorists you mean? Hahahaha, you are trying to change subject. No, just trying to delouse a rarely-held opinion on here that blowing up children selling shirts / noodles is justified because they were at /near some protest site. Oh, you again. remember 'When judges of court barred law enforcement officers to search rally sites and disperse crowd that violated the rights of the public and clear illegal structures from the middle of the road, lawlessness prevails ." Do you like to have this type of 'peaceful, unarmed protest' at your premises? Editing Forgot to mention, lawlessness can come from any group. Edited February 23, 2014 by icommunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakk9 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 2008 - attack by unknowns men against PAD (Red government) 2010 - attack by unknowns men against Security forces, civilian, public installation (Red demonstration) 2014 - attack by unknowns men against PRDC, civilian, children (Red government) what you want to tell more !!!!!! And your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almafudd Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The report that indicated the suspect threw a device just as he "parked his car" sounds very doubtful to me. There is nowhere to park there. It is not possible and particularly not without the special pass given by security PDRC. It doesn't sound right, not that it is any less sad What ... out the front of Big C there is no parking, so the area would have been free of cars and quite easy to 'short term park' there. Do you even know the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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