NSC says Armed Forces may cite Rajaprasong bomb attack to impose martial law

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NSC says Armed Forces may cite Rajaprasong bomb attack to impose martial law



BANGKOK: -- The secretary-general of the National Security Council (NDC) Lt-Gen Paradorn Patthanathabutr said today that the lethal grenade attack at Rajaprasong might be used as an excuse by the military to impose martial law in the capital.

Speaking to INN News Agency, Lt-Gen Paradorn said that caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawtra has ordered relevant government agencies to tighten security measures to prevent recurrence of the incident when many people were killed and injured in the bomb attack.

The NSC chief admitted that this latest bomb attack at Rajaprasong might be used as a reason by the military to impose martial law.

But he insisted that the current situation did not yet reach serious level.

He also dismissed as groundless report that foreign force was responsible for the attacks.

He noted that there was certain group of people who intended to worsen the situation so as to justify the military’s action, and then put all the blame on the government or the police for starting all the violence.

He said that the Center for the Maintaining of Peace and Order will renew talk with the PDRC for the handover of some areas as they are considered having high risk of being attacked.

So far the police could not yet establish which group of people was responsible for the violent attacks as more evidences are needed. But initially the group has experience of using war weapon, he said.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/nsc-says-armed-forces-may-cite-rajaprasong-bomb-attack-impose-martial-law/


-- Thai PBS 2014-02-24

[Just1Voice]

Another attack like this will give the military all they need to establish martial law. While I"m no fan of martial law, I think this just might be a case where it is needed to regain peace and stop, or at lease decrease, the violence by all sides.

[casualbiker]

Blah blah army blah blah coup blah blah martial law blah blah.

Every time these stupid quasi politicians are stirring the pot with unfounded bullshit .. it really is beyond belief.

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[haroldc]

Since the so-called government has done nothing to prevent the continuous violence being perpetrated against the protestors and those perceived to be aligned with the protestors, and indeed may very well be tacitly complicit, I for one would welcome the imposition of martial law. Democracy is a wonderful ideal, but in Thailand it has become a euphemism for kleptocracy in the guise of serving the national interest.

[davejones23]

Here comes the military coup, which will probably be followed by civil war. I hope that the North and NE win so they can finally elect governments that don't get overthrown by the army or the courts.

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You are so naive that it's laughable. How can north and north east win a civil war? It's not a north vs south battle and no one will come out as winners. You make it sound like a simple game of football. Also, there are many opposing views in north and north east, so they wouldn't even be on the same side. Suggest you get back to school and learn a little before spouting off such nonsense.

[BuddyPinkham]

HE SAID, SHE SAID!

[Cylon]

Im afraid it has become a North v South.Another Sudan

[craigt3365]

Another member is now on a posting holiday for a post suggesting violence is appropriate given the current political climate. We have zero tolerance for these kinds of posts.

Apologies to the members with the appropriate replies that had to be removed also.

[givenall]

Another attack like this will give the military all they need to establish martial law. While I"m no fan of martial law, I think this just might be a case where it is needed to regain peace and stop, or at lease decrease, the violence by all sides.

Can he at least stop greening. He seems to be delighted

[pedro01]

"But he insisted that the current situation did not yet reach serious level."

- At that point does it become serious?

"He noted that there was certain group of people who intended to worsen the situation so as to justify the military’s action, and then put all the blame on the government or the police for starting all the violence"

Well - we can see that the government and police have been ineffective. So how about naming this group?

[bigbamboo]

It's getting to the point where a coup, although far from ideal, may be the only way to go in the short term.

Of course it would damage Thailand's reputation or what's left of it, but at least it would put a stop to Suthep's rantings and the government's incompetence. It would be an opportunity to take a time out, establish some order so people can get on with theirt day to day living again and during which time both parties can take stock and offload their unwanted baggage (you know who they are) and start afresh.

Might be worth a try.

Edited February 24, 2014 by bigbamboo

[tomacht8]

Grenades are fired, detonated bombs and shotings into crowds.
People die and what do the police?

So far, nothing.

Not a single case elucidated.

Have the police stopped to work for the people in this country?

Edited February 24, 2014 by tomacht8

[bigbamboo]

Grenades are fired, detonated bombs and shotings into crowds.

People die and what do the police?

So far, nothing.

Not a single case elucidated.

Have the police stopped to work for the people in this country?

I didn't realise they ever did.

[Artisi]

Grenades are fired, detonated bombs and shotings into crowds.

People die and what do the police?

So far, nothing.

Not a single case elucidated.

Have the police stopped to work for the people in this country?

Have they ever worked for the benefit of the ordinary Thai people?

[Ricardo]

It's getting to the point where a coup, although far from ideal, may be the only way to go in the short term.

Of course it would damage Thailand's reputation or what's left of it, but at least it would put a stop to Suthep's rantings and the government's incompetence. It would be an opportunity to take a time out, establish some order so people can get on with theirt day to day living again and during which time both parties can take stock and offload their unwanted baggage (you know who they are) and start afresh.

Might be worth a try.

It would help in several ways, solve the problem of the current uncompleted-election, enable the farmers to get paid, get Suthep's protesters and also the UDD on-a-leash, allow time for constitutional-changes to be discussed more calmly, perhaps lead to a national-referendum on changes & then a fresh election returning power to the country once again.

Not a perfect solution, but at least a chance for the needless deaths/injuries/bombings/shootings to cease, if enough of the population accept that it's now time once again, for the Re-Set button to be pushed ?

The question remains, at what point does a coup become less-wrong, than the alternative ?

Some would say "never", others might be more pragmatic, in a country which is still far from properly democratic.

[petedk]

Maybe a stupid question but what exactly would imposing martial law mean? Surely it means taking power from the government (if only in Bangkok).

How is different from a full coup?

[h90]

Another attack like this will give the military all they need to establish martial law. While I"m no fan of martial law, I think this just might be a case where it is needed to regain peace and stop, or at lease decrease, the violence by all sides.

I recall direct after the coup 2006. The military was the most sensitive and most common sense I have ever seen in Thailand.

The stopped all the censorship nonsense as one of their first actions.

Curfew was in place but it was no problem to go after it around with the car.

The military acted like a democratic elected government that gives freedom to their citizen while the elected ones act like military dictatorships....

[siampolee]

When one views the current scenario here in Thailand one is led to wonder whether or not there is any rule of law any consensus of opinion as to how the current situation should or could be handled and is there any light at the end of the tunnel?

So many different agenda's coming from those who claim to be in power whether as political caretakers or both military or police bystanders.

In reality we here in Thailand are but one small step from anarchy, the result of that step could indeed be a bloody one as the current train of events clearly show us in a very graphic manner with the murder of innocents as the cost of a political goal by all factions involved in the matters.

How many sides are involved one must ask?

We have one family driven group intent on retaining and consolidating their grip on power no matter what the cost may be politically and socially.

We have a group of citizens who are very disgruntled with the levels of corruption of the the past administration led by a political firebrand who to my mind is but the figurehead as opposed to the power train of that group.

We then have the police farce force who seem to have an agenda of following whatever course of inaction they feel is in their best interests or their sponsors interest.

Then we have the old Red Shirt brigade sitting on the sidelines led by rather outdated socialists ideals totally at odds with the leader of the group they seem to support and the less than erudite Red Shirt leaders with sponsored political posts who in whatever passes for reality in their world seem as if they are not really sure what they want or who to follow

Lastly the military.

Well which way will they go ?

Difficult to say.

We may yet well end up with a military regime and martial law which perhaps although somewhat draconian might well be the way forward out of the mess we are now in here in Thailand.

If the last scenario where to happen we must hope that a ruling council of people is installed as a result of the military handing power over to a civilian administration composed of those who are selected for their love of Thailand and its peoples as opposed to a love for self gratification politically , financially ends and business wise.

such a council must have a mandated life of not more than three years and then a new general election process must be held.

As a result of a ruling councils efforts there has to be a weeding out of the political figures in Thailand who consider that Thailand and its peoples are their servants as opposed to the reality of the politicians being the public's servants.

Indeed the judgement and wisdom of Solomon would be challenged by such a daunting task as this one.

Edited February 24, 2014 by siampolee

[rubl]

Yesterday on channel 5 or 7 I saw a few chaps walk in "I love police" polo shirts.

Must have been some of anti-government protesters who really appreciate the protection the police gives them.

[hgma]

I am just a bystander...but why doesn't anybody considers some sort of autonomy for certain provinces.

north and north east and south with extensive own goverment but with vetoright from bangkok.????

But as I said...I am just a bystander and T.I.T. thus never ask why.

Worth discussing among us????

[tomacht8]

Grenades are fired, detonated bombs and shotings into crowds.

People die and what do the police?

So far, nothing.

Not a single case elucidated.

Have the police stopped to work for the people in this country?

I didn't realise they ever did.

I can not believe that somebody can launch grenades in the center of a major city, simply unseen. Over all are CCTV and certainly eye-witnesses.

Why the police do not work with all forces to arrest this killers? The passivity of the so-called police authorities is really worrying.

Until now, also no statement from the government police (DSI, CMPO, CAPO).

Edited February 24, 2014 by tomacht8

[kurtgruen]

Well let's see:

Fact: The police had not caught any of the terrorists, even so some of them committed their crimes in broad daylight.

Fact: The police is mostly in Thaksins side

Fact: Most of the violence has been against Government protesters

Fact: UDD members where enthusiastically cheering, when their UDD leader announced that peaceful protesters were killed by grenade and drive-by shooting attacks in Trat

I think, that if the terrorism was done by anyone but pro-government forces, the culprits would have been caught a long time ago.

To me, it seems, that it is to discourage people from staying out/coming out to protest against the Government.

If the military wanted a coup, they could have used any of the brutal attacks, over the past few month, to launch one. They haven't.

If Suthep was such a war monger, as some of you claim, he would have called for armed conflict by now. He reminds me more of Ghandi than anyone. The protests, from the side of the Anti-Government protesters, has been mostly peaceful.

So this NSC announcement, along with a lot of the other pro-government propaganda, is nothing but smoke and mirrors

[TVGerry]

Grenades are fired, detonated bombs and shotings into crowds.

People die and what do the police?

So far, nothing.

Not a single case elucidated.

Have the police stopped to work for the people in this country?

I didn't realise they ever did.

I can not believe that somebody can launch grenades in the center of a major city, simply unseen. Over all are CCTV and certainly eye-witnesses.

Why the police do not work with all forces to arrest this killers? The passivity of the so-called police authorities is really worrying.

Until now, also no statement from the government police (DSI, CMPO, CAPO).

That's why no one trusts the police. It's even more scary when you have a policeman go on stage and cheer the deaths of the people killed in the Trat attack.

[antimedia]

I have said it before and I will say it again, Thaksin and other elite are only have one agenda and that is New World Order. Martial law is the key to implementing the NWO. If you believe things are bad now, stick around the main act hasn't begun. Democracy that everyone keeps whinging about will be forever forgotten, population will be savagely reduced and life will be hell. By all means you all keep preoccupied with your squabbling over Yingluck and Suthep and let it all unfold in front of you, who am I to argue with bar stool experts.

[SamMunich]

HGMA wrote:

I am just a bystander...but why doesn't anybody considers some sort of autonomy for certain provinces.

north and north east and south with extensive own goverment but with vetoright from bangkok.????

But as I said...I am just a bystander and T.I.T. thus never ask why.

Worth discussing among us????

______________________________________________

There is a common understanding among basically ALL Thais not to give away a single square meter of the country, so I wonder who in his right mind can propose to cut up the country into two. Could only be Taksin & Co. who try to salvage at least a little bit of their loot. And this idea has been floated by Northern/Isarn red shirts. Most likely this is to provoke the military into action, as they will not allow the splitting up of the country.

[Goat Roper]

Old Marcus stuff. Paradon should be sent into exile for this BS of martial law. This is a sure sign of desperation on the part of this government. Won't be long now to the end.

[marstons]

It's getting to the point where a coup, although far from ideal, may be the only way to go in the short term.

Of course it would damage Thailand's reputation or what's left of it, but at least it would put a stop to Suthep's rantings and the government's incompetence. It would be an opportunity to take a time out, establish some order so people can get on with theirt day to day living again and during which time both parties can take stock and offload their unwanted baggage (you know who they are) and start afresh.

Might be worth a try.

Until the army have to give in and allow another election, and the merry go round starts again. Whilst Thailand may not know it but world opinion and Europe and America's pro Decrocy stance would leave the army General out there on his own unless he wants to side up with China.

Any normal place the police would have had this sorted weeks ago.

[marcusd]

Maybe a stupid question but what exactly would imposing martial law mean? Surely it means taking power from the government (if only in Bangkok).

How is different from a full coup?

this way it Iwas effective and means Thailand looks Democratic to the world.. Maybe.. A solution?

Marcusd. Via tapatalk

[h90]

I have said it before and I will say it again, Thaksin and other elite are only have one agenda and that is New World Order. Martial law is the key to implementing the NWO. If you believe things are bad now, stick around the main act hasn't begun. Democracy that everyone keeps whinging about will be forever forgotten, population will be savagely reduced and life will be hell. By all means you all keep preoccupied with your squabbling over Yingluck and Suthep and let it all unfold in front of you, who am I to argue with bar stool experts.

But Martial law can be also used to fight the NWO.....This is Thailand and not USA. See the last coup, it was a major set back for NWO....

[WhizBang]

Well, martial law would certainly put a damper on the plans the red shirts have to come to town. And that would be a good thing.

It will also do wonders for Thailand's international reputation, not to mention tourist arrivals.