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Samsung Galaxy S5: can fitness and fingerprint sensors be Apple?


Samsung’s going all in on fitness and health with a built-in heart rate sensor and fingerprint reader


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Samsung’s new flagship Galaxy S5 Android smartphone aims to ditch gimmicky features for a fingerprint sensor and heart rate and fitness tracking.


The slightly larger and more powerful smartphone has a fingerprint reader directly under the home button, which will unlock the smartphone and authenticate PayPal payments, taking the fingerprint-reading battle to Apple, its chief rival in the smartphone market.


“People don’t want a load of complex features, they just features have an impact during everyday life, like a personal fitness tracker and a super fast camera, so we’ve made the new device based on those principles,” said James White, head of strategy and product marketing for Samsung UK talking to the Guardian.


‘Everyone wants to be healthier’


The integrated heart rate sensor, which sits beside the flash just below the camera, works with the smartphone’s other sensors to track fitness and health using Samsung’s new S Health 3, which works as a pedometer while in the pocket.


Health and fitness are one of Samsung’s new focuses, with the recent introduction of the Gear 2 smartwatches also capable of measuring activity and heart rate.


“Everyone wants to be healthier, but must don’t have enough time for it, so the S5 can now do it for you,” said Kyle Brown, head of technical product management at Samsung UK talking to the Guardian.


Samsung also announced a fitness-focused version of the Gear 2 smartwatch, the Gear Fit, which has a curved AMOLED screen and measures activity and heart rate, as well as displaying notifications from a Samsung smartphone.


Unlock with a swipe of the finger


Samsung has also fitted its latest high-end Android smartphone with a fingerprint reader, that unlike Apple’s TouchID works more like a traditional fingerprint scanner requiring the user to swipe their finger across it. It is positioned directly under the home button, and in limited testing seemed to work well as long as the finger was swiped in the same way as it was configured during the fingerprint learning process.


Positioned under the home button it makes unlocking the smartphone easy with one hand, unlike the fingerprint scanner on the back of the HTC One Max phablet. Samsung has partnered with PayPal to allow buyers to authenticate PayPal payments using the fingerprint sensor, and Samsung says further applications are coming.


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The Galaxy S5 has a 5.1in full HD AMOLED screen, making it slightly larger than the screen of its 5in predecessor, and a new, more powerful 2.5GHz quad-core processor. Samsung has fitted a sightly larger battery, as has created an Ultra Power Saver Mode to extend the battery life by days if needed.


Despite expectations to the contrary, Samsung has stuck with a plastic design for the Galaxy S5 making the device look almost identical to the Galaxy S4 before it but bringing the leather-like backs from the recent Galaxy Note 3. It is also water and dust resistant, although not submergible like Sony’s waterproof smartphones.


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The flagship smartphone is both light and slim, but at 145g and 8.1mm thick it is slightly heavier and thicker than last year’s 130g and 7.9mm thick S4. It is more solidly built, however, exhibiting very little flex in the body despite its plastic construction.


Source: The Guardian - Read more here.

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It is very ugly, looks worse than galaxy S4, no new innovation except for camera (we'll see), same resolution pentile screen, only quad core cpu (compared to 8 core S4), no 64 bit, crappy fingerprint sensor (compared to Apple).

Design looks worse than Chinese S4 knock-offs and who offers Gold colour phone in Plastic shell?? Enough with copying/following Apple in every move.

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Who cares about the design. Most people just put a case over the phone so you cannot see the design anyways.

I think most people were hoping for some big new feature, but Samsung decided just to marginally improve on just about everything. A bit bigger screen, a bit bigger battery, a bit faster processor, etc. So everybody is let down. That's it Samsung? I think we are reaching a point where there's not much room left for major improvements. Future improvements will come from battery life, signal improvements, and data signal aggregation (wifi/3G/LTE simultaneously) in my opinion.

From what I have read on other forums, people are going to wait and see what iphone 6 has to offer before making a purchase.

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Samsung rushed to release galaxy S5 because S4 wasn't selling good anymore. They promised 64 bit chips, 2560x1440 screens, narrower bezels and isocell camera.

Only thing they gave is isocell camera and thats it.

If one buys galaxy S5, after a few months Samsung will release galaxy s5 64 bit edition and again after a few months later, galaxy s5 64 bit qhd edition.

When you put a case in the telephone, you can still see it in the front, if not back. It screams ugliness. I can show you much better designed chinese phones available to buy at 1/3 price of Samsung.

Besides, Chinese Gionee now have 2560x1440 screen phones aswell, far beyond of Samsung in terms of hardware offering.

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Besides, Chinese Gionee now have 2560x1440 screen phones aswell, far beyond of Samsung in terms of hardware offering.

And even further ahead of Apple with their very basic '640 x 1136 pixels, 4.0 inches (~326 ppi pixel density)' offering on their 'flagship', top of the range, iphone 5s cheesy.gif

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Besides, Chinese Gionee now have 2560x1440 screen phones aswell, far beyond of Samsung in terms of hardware offering.

And even further ahead of Apple with their very basic '640 x 1136 pixels, 4.0 inches (~326 ppi pixel density)' offering on their 'flagship', top of the range, iphone 5s cheesy.gif

Like there is 1080p panel for 4" size screens. Apple will increase resolution again by 4x in next iPhone when they decide to increase screen size in order to keep retina PPI.

iPhone 5/5S panel is heavily calibrated 600 nits screen, colours are closest to the real thing unlike Samsung's amoled oversaturated, overheating panel. Don't take my word for this, go read detailed comparisons at anandtech and several other sites.

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Besides, Chinese Gionee now have 2560x1440 screen phones aswell, far beyond of Samsung in terms of hardware offering.

And even further ahead of Apple with their very basic '640 x 1136 pixels, 4.0 inches (~326 ppi pixel density)' offering on their 'flagship', top of the range, iphone 5s cheesy.gif

Like there is 1080p panel for 4" size screens. Apple will increase resolution copy the competition again by 4x in next iPhone when they decide to increase screen size in order to keep retina PPI.

iPhone 5/5S panel is heavily calibrated 600 nits screen, colours are closest to the real thing unlike Samsung's amoled oversaturated, overheating panel. Don't take my word for this, go read detailed comparisons at anandtech and several other sites.

I went to the anandtech web sight you like recommending and, among the headlines on their home page, this jumped out at me:

Every year Samsung launches a new Galaxy S flagship smartphone, and as always, Samsung puts the best platform that can be bought in their devices. The Galaxy S5 is no exception.

In other words better than Apple clap2.gif

Another comment was:

As always, Samsung has included removable battery and a microSD slot......................I wonder when Apple will finally realize this is what the public want and copy the best.wai2.gif

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Samsung has gone with a 3.85V chemistry compared to the 3.8V chemistry previously used by the Galaxy S4. With a battery capacity of 10.78 WHr, this means that it has 2800 mAh. For reference, the Galaxy S4 had a 9.88 WHr battery with 2600 mAh........................so even the older S4 technology is still far, far better than Apple's miserly 'Non-removable Li-Po 1560 mAh battery (5.92 Wh)'

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Sumrit, you are the worst Samsung fanboy (far less IQ) I've ever seen.

Go read some tests and detailed comparisons between 5S and S4 before talk in numbers.

LG G2 has much better battery life than S4 and it'll have better battery life than S5.

iPhone 4 is the first retina screen (with 4 times more pixels) in the world. Samsung managed to reach retina by Galaxy S3. So who is copying who in your mind?

Who copied gold color and fingerprint from competition? Samsung also released gold colour galaxy phone after Apple's success. Gold in plastic, lol.

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Who cares who's copying whom? Samsung makes some of the best phones, period. Plus android makes them much more attractive.

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Who cares who's copying whom? Samsung makes some of the best phones, period. Plus android makes them much more attractive.

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If Galaxy S5 is one of the best phones in your mind then I have nothing to say to you.

If one likes to use Android, should look somewhere else, not the design disabled Samsung.

LG G2 and upcoming G3 is pretty much better in terms of everything compared to S4 and S5.

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Another comment was:

As always, Samsung has included removable battery and a microSD slot......................I wonder when Apple will finally realize this is what the public want and copy the best.wai2.gif

Followed by:

Samsung has gone with a 3.85V chemistry compared to the 3.8V chemistry previously used by the Galaxy S4. With a battery capacity of 10.78 WHr, this means that it has 2800 mAh. For reference, the Galaxy S4 had a 9.88 WHr battery with 2600 mAh........................so even the older S4 technology is still far, far better than Apple's miserly 'Non-removable Li-Po 1560 mAh battery (5.92 Wh)'

not that I really want to wade into this, but i have to say that in my experience "expandable storage" can be a bit of a pain particularly since after jelly bean you can't move apps to the SD storage and must remain in the (usually much more limited) internal storage. non expandable storage can be limiting but it makes things much simpler. i tried to explain moving apps and data on/off internal storage to the SD card and it confuses a lot of people (her: "but the SD card is internal. it's in the phone!" me: "ummmm......")

battery - the higher the energy density the more dangerous/finicky it is. i'd worry about overheating/fire risk if Samsung's processes ever slip up a little. Even with the lower density, Apple has had problems with batteries before - if Samsung's sales of the S5 are high volume enough I'd wager (as a statistical likelihood) there'll be stories about battery fires/explosions also...

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Who cares who's copying whom? Samsung makes some of the best phones, period. Plus android makes them much more attractive.

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If Galaxy S5 is one of the best phones in your mind then I have nothing to say to you.

If one likes to use Android, should look somewhere else, not the design disabled Samsung.

LG G2 and upcoming G3 is pretty much better in terms of everything compared to S4 and S5.

It was a general comment, not S5 specific. I haven't read much about S5 yet to give my opinion, but if my opinion matters to anyone G2 ain't better than the S4 or 5 in terms it got not user replaceable battery and it's camera is shit regardless its having an optical stabilization, every review I read shows how poor G2's image quality is.

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Some compare 1560 mah battery of a 4" size phone to 5.1" phone with 2800 mah. One must have common sense to realize bigger battery requires bigger space in phone and bigger phone needs bigger battery to provide enough battery life.

LG G2 has technology to save battery life using display ram to cache static images in screen, Samsung has no such innovation. Who puts old tech fingerprint to a phone anyway?

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Sumrit, you are the worst Samsung fanboy (far less IQ) I've ever seen.

Go read some tests and detailed comparisons between 5S and S4 before talk in numbers.

LG G2 has much better battery life than S4 and it'll have better battery life than S5.

iPhone 4 is the first retina screen (with 4 times more pixels) in the world. Samsung managed to reach retina by Galaxy S3. So who is copying who in your mind?

Who copied gold color and fingerprint from competition? Samsung also released gold colour galaxy phone after Apple's success. Gold in plastic, lol.

You just don't get it do you muratremix. I'm not a fan of any make, I'm a fan of honesty.

When Apple brought the first i-phone they were way ahead of other companies and included options the rest hadn't even dreamed of. It was a big hit with Joe public which meant they could also charge rip off prices as well.

But over the last six years (nearly) companies such as Samsung, HTC, LG and Sony have caught up and, with their flagship models, now produce technically superior phones with features the public actually want. The i-phone now lags behind each of them in overall features and performance.

I think it's quite sad that childish sheep keep bleating on about the i-phone because it was the best six years ago instead of simply opening their eyes and realizing there is now a credible and better alternative.

Instead of putting pressure on Apple to produce a phone with features that everybody really wants you close your eyes to everything else and tune in solely to Apples brainwashing tactics. Then, when somebody points out how some of the features of the i-phone 5S are inferior to other makes, you don't offer an answer, you simply ignore it and move onto another feature Apple have told you is the 'best'.

As for me I chose an IQX2, not because I thought it was anywhere near the best, but because it contains (more than) all the features I want and, for me, it offered them at a price that suited. Simple as that. I'm not interested in saying I've got the best phone. I'm more interested in saying I got value for money and all the features I need.

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If you're man of honesty, how come you can like design of Galaxy S5? Seriously, please answer it.

It offers nothing on top of LG G2, which is a 2013 phone. People expect edge to edge narrow bezel, newest technologies inside (such as 64 bit cpu) but they'll get nothing. Same old plastic for the same old price (perhaps 50 usd cheaper, thats it)

I have several chinese Android phones and believe me some of them have much better plastic quality than Samsung at 1/3 price.

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It's a pretty ugly phone but Samsung, and Koreans generally, are not noted for their design skills. For my next phone, I'm seriously starting to like what I'm reading about the Sony Z1 Compact and the Z2. Both sound like they're going to be superlative in both design, specs., and features.

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Some compare 1560 mah battery of a 4" size phone to 5.1" phone with 2800 mah. One must have common sense to realize bigger battery requires bigger space in phone and bigger phone needs bigger battery to provide enough battery life.

LG G2 has technology to save battery life using display ram to cache static images in screen, Samsung has no such innovation. Who puts old tech fingerprint to a phone anyway?

I did not compare the batteries size, I only pointed out that it's not user replaceable. Don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say.

Another thing - LED display technology is superior to the LCD regarding the energy consumption, LED is also much never than LCD (speaking of old tech).

You mentioned many times of the over saturated colors of Samsung's AMOLED displays in different topics. I don't see it as a negative as I, in fact, like it. However for the folks like you there is an option to change the display colors on samsung devices, so here you go.

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Some compare 1560 mah battery of a 4" size phone to 5.1" phone with 2800 mah. One must have common sense to realize bigger battery requires bigger space in phone and bigger phone needs bigger battery to provide enough battery life.

LG G2 has technology to save battery life using display ram to cache static images in screen, Samsung has no such innovation. Who puts old tech fingerprint to a phone anyway?

I did not compare the batteries size, I only pointed out that it's not user replaceable. Don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say.

Another thing - LED display technology is superior to the LCD regarding the energy consumption, LED is also much never than LCD (speaking of old tech).

You mentioned many times of the over saturated colors of Samsung's AMOLED displays in different topics. I don't see it as a negative as I, in fact, like it. However for the folks like you there is an option to change the display colors on samsung devices, so here you go.

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LED is not display but lighting behind the lcd panel. iPhone 5/5s screen is best calibrated display with 600 nits brightness (samsung amoled users can only dream). If you like oversaturated displays and like to look at surreal, hyperral images then you're welcome to stick to Samsung. It is no different than lying to yourself, which is same thing when you say you like S5 design :)

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LED is not display but lighting behind the lcd panel. iPhone 5/5s screen is best calibrated display with 600 nits brightness (samsung amoled users can only dream). If you like oversaturated displays and like to look at surreal, hyperral images then you're welcome to stick to Samsung. It is no different than lying to yourself, which is same thing when you say you like S5 design :)

Well buddy, for starters, before you say anything else you better familiarize yourself with technology. Specifically what is LCD and what is LED dispaly. Ignorance is a bliss.

Second, I repeat, don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say. Show me where I said I liked the S5 design.

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Some compare 1560 mah battery of a 4" size phone to 5.1" phone with 2800 mah. One must have common sense to realize bigger battery requires bigger space in phone and bigger phone needs bigger battery to provide enough battery life.

LG G2 has technology to save battery life using display ram to cache static images in screen, Samsung has no such innovation. Who puts old tech fingerprint to a phone anyway?

I did not compare the batteries size, I only pointed out that it's not user replaceable. Don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say.

Another thing - LED display technology is superior to the LCD regarding the energy consumption, LED is also much never than LCD (speaking of old tech).

You mentioned many times of the over saturated colors of Samsung's AMOLED displays in different topics. I don't see it as a negative as I, in fact, like it. However for the folks like you there is an option to change the display colors on samsung devices, so here you go.

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LED is not display but lighting behind the lcd panel. iPhone 5/5s screen is best calibrated display with 600 nits brightness (samsung amoled users can only dream). If you like oversaturated displays and like to look at surreal, hyperral images then you're welcome to stick to Samsung. It is no different than lying to yourself, which is same thing when you say you like S5 design smile.png

muratremix, They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. In your case it simply proves you don't know what you're waffling on about.

We'll start with the simple bit first. LED stands for light emitting diode. In other words it produces it's own light, and produces it more efficiently so reducing power consumption. In older technology LED's were used for back lighting for LCD displays instead of standard back lighting. This did reduce power over standard back lighting.

AMOLED stands for active matrix organic light emitting diode, And the beauty of it is guess what...........it doesn't need any back lighting.

The LED's are arranged on a TFT matrix where each LED is one of the three colours within a pixel and is turned on/off plus has it's brightness controlled by two TFT's. This is a much more power efficient method of lighting a display than using a back lit LCD display, even if that LCD display is back lit by LED's.

AMOLED displays also give a true black level. Because each pixel has it's own LED's and, within each pixel of black, the LED's are turned off, no light is produced at all. Unlike back lit LCD displays used by Apple where the back light must always remain on and 'seeps' through to give blacks a slightly lighter black level. (In the early days of Plasma v LCD this was the one main advantage plasma had).

Because of their design, the viewing angle with AMOLED is much wider than can be obtained with LCD. it also means, as well as being more efficient, AMOLED displays are much thinner and lighter than LCD displays.

And one final point, Shurup is right. LED technology is superior to the older LCD technology.

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Some compare 1560 mah battery of a 4" size phone to 5.1" phone with 2800 mah. One must have common sense to realize bigger battery requires bigger space in phone and bigger phone needs bigger battery to provide enough battery life.

LG G2 has technology to save battery life using display ram to cache static images in screen, Samsung has no such innovation. Who puts old tech fingerprint to a phone anyway?

I did not compare the batteries size, I only pointed out that it's not user replaceable. Don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say.

Another thing - LED display technology is superior to the LCD regarding the energy consumption, LED is also much never than LCD (speaking of old tech).

You mentioned many times of the over saturated colors of Samsung's AMOLED displays in different topics. I don't see it as a negative as I, in fact, like it. However for the folks like you there is an option to change the display colors on samsung devices, so here you go.

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Edited: autocorrects' smart changes.

LED is not display but lighting behind the lcd panel. iPhone 5/5s screen is best calibrated display with 600 nits brightness (samsung amoled users can only dream). If you like oversaturated displays and like to look at surreal, hyperral images then you're welcome to stick to Samsung. It is no different than lying to yourself, which is same thing when you say you like S5 design smile.png

muratremix, They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. In your case it simply proves you don't know what you're waffling on about.

We'll start with the simple bit first. LED stands for light emitting diode. In other words it produces it's own light, and produces it more efficiently so reducing power consumption. In older technology LED's were used for back lighting for LCD displays instead of standard back lighting. This did reduce power over standard back lighting.

AMOLED stands for active matrix organic light emitting diode, And the beauty of it is guess what...........it doesn't need any back lighting.

The LED's are arranged on a TFT matrix where each LED is one of the three colours within a pixel and is turned on/off plus has it's brightness controlled by two TFT's. This is a much more power efficient method of lighting a display than using a back lit LCD display, even if that LCD display is back lit by LED's.

AMOLED displays also give a true black level. Because each pixel has it's own LED's and, within each pixel of black, the LED's are turned off, no light is produced at all. Unlike back lit LCD displays used by Apple where the back light must always remain on and 'seeps' through to give blacks a slightly lighter black level. (In the early days of Plasma v LCD this was the one main advantage plasma had).

Because of their design, the viewing angle with AMOLED is much wider than can be obtained with LCD. it also means, as well as being more efficient, AMOLED displays are much thinner and lighter than LCD displays.

And one final point, Shurup is right. LED technology is superior to the older LCD technology.

What are you talking about? Are you high on drugs? The only thing I ever said is calibrated IPS is much better than crappy amoled, period. Why you keep thinking CFL LCD backlighting when I talk about LCD?. You think LED tvs is made of LED pixels like Oled? Jesus christ.

Oled / Amoled has a serious flaw, 3 colour subpixels (red green and blue) has different lifetime and they lose brightness differently. So when you use panel for 5000 hours, blue is less bright than green and red thus it cause major problems. Of course I don't expect you to know this, you only know how to troll.

What else you'll do after this? Copy paste wikipedia? Stop dicking with me in matters you have absolutely no knowledge about.

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Most any newer device will beat Apple. Just look at the specs, & of course that Apple isn't supported in Thailand. Apple gave up on perfection awhile ago, now they're just Marketing. Had the iPhone 5s, targeted & stolen after a month...Thais. Now after research picked up the LG G2. Likey.

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What are you talking about? Are you high on drugs? The only thing I ever said is calibrated IPS is much better than crappy amoled, period. Why you keep thinking CFL LCD backlighting when I talk about LCD?. You think LED tvs is made of LED pixels like Oled? Jesus christ.

Oled / Amoled has a serious flaw, 3 colour subpixels (red green and blue) has different lifetime and they lose brightness differently. So when you use panel for 5000 hours, blue is less bright than green and red thus it cause major problems. Of course I don't expect you to know this, you only know how to troll.

What else you'll do after this? Copy paste wikipedia? Stop dicking with me in matters you have absolutely no knowledge about.

muratremix, bI don't, and never have taken drugs in my life. I must be the most anti drugs person in the world. Don't get me on that soap box, you won't Know what's hit you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In post 21 YOU said, and I quote "LED is not display but lighting behind the lcd panel"

When you read Wikipedia you obvious got your existing TV display technology mixed up with your mobile phone display technology. Easily done when you have to read up on everything first.

Now, as we have been discussing mobile phone technology, I pointed out that the statement is wrong and went on to explain, very basically and in layman's language (just for you), how the mobile phones AMOLED display actually works and how it differs from older back lit technology.

As a retired Electronics Engineer with over forty years experience in working (for some of the largest companies in the UK) in the design, manufacture and service of consumer electronics and specializing in the TV, Video, Audio and display areas of that field, unlike you, I know exactly what I am talking about.

Unlike you, I don't need to look at Wikipedia for my information and I'm not brainwashed by Apples publicity machine either.

And do you really want to expand your ignorance into my specialist field of the design of TV displays?????cheesy.gifcheesy.gif .............(The latest TV design does actually use OLED, with no back light wai2.gif )

In every type of colour screen ever manufactured, because the three primary colours operate independently and don't rely on each other for their operation, those three primary colours can have a different lifespan and deteriorate at different rates. This has always been the case and is not new and restricted to AMOLED. If you new what you were talking about you'd know that!!

So where do we go from here? Well I've really enjoyed myself laughing at you but I must apologize to the OP. He started a very good thread about the latest technology in a mobile phone and we have (unfairly) hijacked it. He deserved better so I think it's now time for us to stop and give other posters the chance to post their comments on his original post, without having to suffer our input.

So I'll call it a day and go and make a cup of tea while you can go back to studying the latest Apple press releases..........................and Wikipedia of course wai2.gifwai2.gifwai2.gif

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It is very ugly, looks worse than galaxy S4, no new innovation except for camera (we'll see), same resolution pentile screen, only quad core cpu (compared to 8 core S4), no 64 bit, crappy fingerprint sensor (compared to Apple).

Design looks worse than Chinese S4 knock-offs and who offers Gold colour phone in Plastic shell?? Enough with copying/following Apple in every move.

Rather opinionated for a product that hasn't even reached the shelves yet? Get a life.

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