Suthep woos Justice officials

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Suthep woos Justice officials
Piyanut Tumnukasetchai
The Nation



BANGKOK: -- Suthep Thaugsuban yesterday led his People's Democratic Reform Committee followers to win the support of the Justice Ministry for their national reform campaign in a move apparently calculated to dispel criticism that he has usurped sovereignty of the country.

Suthep, other PDRC leaders and anti-government protesters visited the ministry under tight security after a similar trek to the Education Ministry last week.

Permanent secretary Kittipong Kittayarak welcomed Suthep's group with open arms and provided rooms to discuss political reform.

The other PDRC leaders were Satit Wongnongtaey, Chumpol Julasai, Buddhipongse Punnakanta and Akanat Promphan.

Suthep told the meeting that the country was in dire need of reform.

He asked for the support of ministry officials to help improve the political-party system by plugging loopholes that allowed capitalists with vested interests to run the country.

Corruption must be seriously tackled and political interference must be stopped, he claimed.

He cited the unlawful transfer of Thawil Pliensri, who was secretary-general of the National Security Council, as an example of political interference that sabotaged the bureaucratic system.

Suthep also solicited ideas on reform from ministry executives for about half an hour before lunching with them.

He left the ministry to take to the PDRC stage at the Chaeng Wattana base before returning to the main camp at Lumpini Park.


-- The Nation 2014-04-09

[Patje]

The big question is, what did he promised them, money , a job or both ?

[Mentors]

How can a known corrupt guy with murder charge still free talk and walk around and disrupt the live of the people in the capital city?

Edited April 9, 2014 by Mentors

[Fryslan boppe]

"Permanent secretary Kittipong Kittayarak welcomed Suthep's group with open arms and provided rooms to discuss political reform"

Of course they would.

They are all buddies....

This Kittipong Kittayarak advocated strongly for the resignation of an elected Prime Minister.

The media on one hand keeps trying to "Normalize the abnormal" by the way they characterize these judicial people. But unwittingly support the abnormality by speaking of an "..open arms welcome" and positively characterizing a guy seeking to eliminate Democracy in favour of a "Civilian Dictatorship"....Even complimentary Photo's.

That is called "being complicitous".

The only political reform they should have been talking about, is how the DP will reform itself to create competitive elections and a balance of power in Parliament, going forward.

[thesetat2013]

How can a known corrupt guy with murder charge still free talk and walk around and disrupt the live of the people in the capital city?

How can a known corrupt gov and leader still run the country? Or for that matter how can a known convicted criminal in Dubai advise a corrupt gov?

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[antimedia]

How can a known corrupt guy with murder charge still free talk and walk around and disrupt the live of the people in the capital city?

Because many in PTP and UDD set the precedent.

[antimedia]

How can a known corrupt guy with murder charge still free talk and walk around and disrupt the live of the people in the capital city?

Because many in the Red parties set the precedent.

[antimedia]

"Permanent secretary Kittipong Kittayarak welcomed Suthep's group with open arms and provided rooms to discuss political reform"

Of course they would.

They are all buddies....

This Kittipong Kittayarak advocated strongly for the resignation of an elected Prime Minister.

The media on one hand keeps trying to "Normalize the abnormal" by the way they characterize these judicial people. But unwittingly support the abnormality by speaking of an "..open arms welcome" and positively characterizing a guy seeking to eliminate Democracy in favour of a "Civilian Dictatorship"....Even complimentary Photo's.

That is called "being complicitous".

The only political reform they should have been talking about, is how the DP will reform itself to create competitive elections and a balance of power in Parliament, going forward.

I see the phantom tugger is back with the usual boring crap.

[noitom]

He's "wooing." He's making a further mockery of Thailand in front of the world.

[antimedia]

How can a known corrupt guy with murder charge still free talk and walk around and disrupt the live of the people in the capital city?

Maybe, because many in the Red parties set the precedent.

[binjalin]

UNBELIEVABLE that "Justice" officials would be seen to meet with the coup leader - photo's too!!! unbiased or what?

Amazing Thailand - Never Ceases to AMAZE

[rickirs]

Just when you think Thai politics can't get any more bizzare, Suthep raises the bar once again.

Here is a man who has an arrest warrant for muders, refuses to answer to the Court on such charges, who calls for the overthrow of the government, who calls for an interim dictatorship, who closes down and/or illegally occupies government buildings, banks, and public property, is welcomed by Permanent Secretary Kittipong Kittayarak and Justice ministry officials with open arms, provided rooms for meetings, and lunch to discuss "political reform."

If anyone thought the Justice Ministry had no political bias must see that cannot be true. Clearly the Justice Ministry supports Suthep's political aspirations and can be expected to continue its own poltical agenda against the Government. Good bye justice, good bye democracy. Must be a Thai thing.

[rickirs]

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How can a known corrupt guy with murder charge still free talk and walk around and disrupt the live of the people in the capital city?

How can a known corrupt gov and leader still run the country? Or for that matter how can a known convicted criminal in Dubai advise a corrupt gov?

Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

How can a known corrupt gov and leader still run the country? Suthep no longer runs the Government. Maybe you didn't get the memo. That's why he is trying so had by any means (except through elections that he can't win) to take back HIS government.

[craigt3365]

A post proposing violence has been removed from view, along with a number of replies. Apologies to the members with the appropriate replies.

[lovetotravel]

"Permanent secretary Kittipong Kittayarak welcomed Suthep's group with open arms and provided rooms to discuss political reform"

Of course they would.

They are all buddies....

This Kittipong Kittayarak advocated strongly for the resignation of an elected Prime Minister.

The media on one hand keeps trying to "Normalize the abnormal" by the way they characterize these judicial people. But unwittingly support the abnormality by speaking of an "..open arms welcome" and positively characterizing a guy seeking to eliminate Democracy in favour of a "Civilian Dictatorship"....Even complimentary Photo's.

That is called "being complicitous".

The only political reform they should have been talking about, is how the DP will reform itself to create competitive elections and a balance of power in Parliament, going forward.

"\This Kittipong Kittayarak advocated strongly for the resignation of an elected Prime Minister."

An elected PM who has lost the confidence of the nation, being investigated for breaking the law, and was in charge of several officials who have been indicted for criminal activities. Hmmm. This is the same action many other western country would do.

[Nickymaster]

UNBELIEVABLE that "Justice" officials would be seen to meet with the coup leader - photo's too!!! unbiased or what?

Amazing Thailand - Never Ceases to AMAZE

Not amazing at all. The guys are just sick and tired of this corrupt Thaksin regime. They have witnessed themselves the last decade that the Shins brake every law possible just to enrich themselves. When they get caught they send their violent reds to threaten the judges.

The faster the Shins are out the better.

[smutcakes]

UNBELIEVABLE that "Justice" officials would be seen to meet with the coup leader - photo's too!!! unbiased or what?

Amazing Thailand - Never Ceases to AMAZE

Not amazing at all. The guys are just sick and tired of this corrupt Thaksin regime. They have witnessed themselves the last decade that the Shins brake every law possible just to enrich themselves. When they get caught they send their violent reds to threaten the judges.

The faster the Shins are out the better.

I think many people on TVF agree with your last part, but what they really mean is the faster the Shins are out, the faster we can get are snouts back in the trough.

[dwcrist]

Yes, the country needs reforms. But where were these reforms when they were in power? Oh, thats right, because they were in power, so there didn't need to be any reforms cause they were happily in control of the corruption then.

Trust me, no significant reforms will happen. Corruption is what everything here is based on. Everyone only wants to get higher on the corruption food-chain. Some will no doubt try to do it by seizing power by demanding or promising reforms. Its all a smoke screen. Suthep has a very corrupt past.

[realenglish1]

How can you possibly say Mandela and Suthep in the same breath. They are totally different in every way.

[jollyman]

all politically motivated, same- same as old Taksin was/is keep it going Ying luck only one way ahead ELECTIONS

[pookiki]

I swear, Thai politics is enough to make a nihilist out of anyone. Here, a man with numerous warrants on his head strolls into the Ministry of Justice and is treated like a visiting dignitary. Can you imagine how this must look to the international community? A real head-scratcher. If it weren't for the violence and the prospect for future violence, the story line for this ongoing malaise would make the best existentialist novel in ages. The appropriate title: "Waiting for Suthep"

[jollyman]

The appropriate title: "Waiting for Suthep" Well SAID, ALL set up But?? I dont think they can pull it off, theres going to be a lot of angry people

[Baerboxer]

UNBELIEVABLE that "Justice" officials would be seen to meet with the coup leader - photo's too!!! unbiased or what?

Amazing Thailand - Never Ceases to AMAZE

Just as unbelievable as a senior policeman going off to HK so a convicted criminal fugitive can pin his new rank badge on.

Crock of sh1t - the whole lot.

[smedly]

"Permanent secretary Kittipong Kittayarak welcomed Suthep's group with open arms and provided rooms to discuss political reform"

Of course they would.

They are all buddies....

This Kittipong Kittayarak advocated strongly for the resignation of an elected Prime Minister.

The media on one hand keeps trying to "Normalize the abnormal" by the way they characterize these judicial people. But unwittingly support the abnormality by speaking of an "..open arms welcome" and positively characterizing a guy seeking to eliminate Democracy in favour of a "Civilian Dictatorship"....Even complimentary Photo's.

That is called "being complicitous".

The only political reform they should have been talking about, is how the DP will reform itself to create competitive elections and a balance of power in Parliament, going forward.

"\This Kittipong Kittayarak advocated strongly for the resignation of an elected Prime Minister."

An elected PM who has lost the confidence of the nation, being investigated for breaking the law, and was in charge of several officials who have been indicted for criminal activities. Hmmm. This is the same action many other western country would do.

The main difference being they would automatically stand down without the need for court action or protests, therefore avoiding debacle we see going on here right now - that is exactly why it happens that way

But no not in Thailand - they have to be physically removed from the PM's seat once the courts rule as they still try to cling on

Edited April 9, 2014 by smedly

[sweatalot]

The big question is, what did he promised them, money , a job or both ?

you are wrong, this report is not about Thaksin

[sweatalot]

UNBELIEVABLE that "Justice" officials would be seen to meet with the coup leader - photo's too!!! unbiased or what?

Amazing Thailand - Never Ceases to AMAZE

Not amazing at all. The guys are just sick and tired of this corrupt Thaksin regime. They have witnessed themselves the last decade that the Shins brake every law possible just to enrich themselves. When they get caught they send their violent reds to threaten the judges.

The faster the Shins are out the better.

I think many people on TVF agree with your last part, but what they really mean is the faster the Shins are out, the faster we can get are snouts back in the trough.

TVF members getting their snout back in the trough?

I doubt there are many

Edited April 9, 2014 by sweatalot

[The stuttering parrot]

Complete mockery of the justice system.

Yingluck will be just subjected to a kangaroo court..

[Scamper]

Suthep has thankfully dropped the ridiculous narrative that has managed to so successfully take the focus off the Yingluck administration, and is now back on message with something that all can relate to - and that is the intimidation that the judicial process has suffered under Pheu Thai. That is why these officials are smiling - that this issue is finally being addressed. If you witnessed every law of jurisprudence being broken - up close and personal, with intimations to judges and judicial rulings - wouldn't you smile, too - at a movement that is dedicated towards the recognition and respect of the judicial agencies ? If you're going to judge a man who smiles, be prepared to live in his shoes for a day. Or perhaps for two and a half years, and see what that's like.

In two weeks, when the Constitutional Court gives its verdict, we'll see how quickly Pheu Thai, Thaksin and his lawyers, and the UDD - come to the defense of the judiciary. We'll see how quickly they do that, won't we ?

Edited April 9, 2014 by Scamper

[Thai at Heart]

Just when you think Thai politics can't get any more bizzare, Suthep raises the bar once again.

Here is a man who has an arrest warrant for muders, refuses to answer to the Court on such charges, who calls for the overthrow of the government, who calls for an interim dictatorship, who closes down and/or illegally occupies government buildings, banks, and public property, is welcomed by Permanent Secretary Kittipong Kittayarak and Justice ministry officials with open arms, provided rooms for meetings, and lunch to discuss "political reform."

If anyone thought the Justice Ministry had no political bias must see that cannot be true. Clearly the Justice Ministry supports Suthep's political aspirations and can be expected to continue its own poltical agenda against the Government. Good bye justice, good bye democracy. Must be a Thai thing.

Obviously these officials weren't wearing their "superhero" capes.of justice. Its not like they were in work doing anything justice like on a tuesday.. They were obviously all hanging out in the office as private citizens.

[smutcakes]

Suthep has thankfully dropped the ridiculous narrative that has managed to so successfully take the focus off the Yingluck administration, and is now back on message with something that all can relate to - and that is the intimidation that the judicial process has suffered under Pheu Thai. That is why these officials are smiling - that this issue is finally being addressed. If you witnessed every law of jurisprudence being broken - up close and personal, with intimations to judges and judicial rulings - wouldn't you smile, too - at a movement that is dedicated towards the recognition and respect of the judicial agencies ? If you're going to judge a man who smiles, be prepared to live in his shoes for a day. Or perhaps for two and a half years, and see what that's like.

In two weeks, when the Constitutional Court gives its verdict, we'll see how quickly Pheu Thai, Thaksin and his lawyers, and the UDD - come to the defense of the judiciary. We'll see how quickly they do that, won't we ?

And if the verdict comes back innocent you will be here with a grovelling apology, or suddenly the judiciary has been paid off no? which one?

Edited April 9, 2014 by metisdead
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