Government offices may have to shut down altogether if there is no budget bill

[Lite Beer]

Government offices may have to shut down altogether if there is no budget bill

BANGKOK: -- Former deputy finance minister Phisit Lee-atham told a Senate panel today that Thailand may have to adopt the American experience in shutting down all governmental offices if the 2015 fiscal year’s budget bill is still not enforcible by September.

He said that the framers of the current Constitution did not anticipate that there would be a problem about no budget bill for the next fiscal year due to the absence of a functioning parliament and, therefore, it was not written in the charter.

But if worse comes to worse, he suggested that the government consults the Election Commission which could allow the budget to be expended even without the budget bill.

Hower, Senator Kamnoon Sitthisamarn, in his capacity as chairman of the Senate panel on finance and banking affairs, doubted that the budget could be expended because the caretaker government was barred from undertaking any transactions which would be binding with the new administration.

Kamnoon admitted that there was a real cause for concern that the government might not have any expenditure budget if the budget bill for 2015 fiscal year was not endorsed by the parliament in September.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/government-offices-may-shut-altogether-budget-bill/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=government-offices-may-shut-altogether-budget-bill

-- Thai PBS 2014-04-22

[bulekee]

No money,no honey!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[hidavey]

Of all the dummb things that the Thai's have to follow is something that's bad from America. Keep it simple, stupid!

[noitom]

The Thais are confused and now see that the 'framers" of their constitution never thought through that they would have no government. They are throwing it at the lap of the election commission. The Thai election commission is now solving everything.

[surangw]

if they close down, how long before any one notices ( or will things get better ?)

[Scamper]

" But if worse comes to worse, he suggested that the government consults the Election Commission which could allow the budget to be expended even without the budget bill. "

And there is the nugget in this announcement. Pheu Thai simply wants to draw funds indefinitely with EC approval - for a whole fiscal budget ! - with no parliament, no legislative authority. In their dreams. Yes, the administration is dismantling. Pheu Thai has tried so hard to create the illusion that they are actually functioning. No, they aren't. And they weren't, even before dissolution. They want the process to work more efficiently ? Stop stalling the legal process. Allow it to proceed.

[Thai at Heart]

" But if worse comes to worse, he suggested that the government consults the Election Commission which could allow the budget to be expended even without the budget bill. "

And there is the nugget in this announcement. Pheu Thai simply wants to draw funds indefinitely with EC approval - for a whole fiscal budget ! - with no parliament, no legislative authority. In their dreams. Yes, the administration is dismantling. Pheu Thai has tried so hard to create the illusion that they are actually functioning. No, they aren't. And they weren't, even before dissolution. They want the process to work more efficiently ? Stop stalling the legal process. Allow it to proceed.

Well, what a simple situation.

On fact better than anything anyone came up with.

Just make it the case that if there is no sitting government , that the budget is last years main budget + inflation. Make sure that all the stuff that was set aside as a yearly stimulus expires and hey presto, you don't need a government any more.

I am surprised you haven't seen how this idea actually helps the pdrc.

[Mentors]

Shut down and crackdown everything, and turn the light off.

But let me leave this country first...

Edited April 22, 2014 by Mentors

[thesetat2013]

" But if worse comes to worse, he suggested that the government consults the Election Commission which could allow the budget to be expended even without the budget bill. "

And there is the nugget in this announcement. Pheu Thai simply wants to draw funds indefinitely with EC approval - for a whole fiscal budget ! - with no parliament, no legislative authority. In their dreams. Yes, the administration is dismantling. Pheu Thai has tried so hard to create the illusion that they are actually functioning. No, they aren't. And they weren't, even before dissolution. They want the process to work more efficiently ? Stop stalling the legal process. Allow it to proceed.

The PTP dont want the process to work more efficiently! They want everything they say to be approved without scrutiny. They have even shown numerous times that if they cant get money through legal channels they try to use illegal channels.

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[Scarpolo]

lawlessness inthailand,

what a concept

[Cricketnut]

lawlessness inthailand,

what a concept

Concept? Why I already thought it appears to be a reality. Every form of governance is corrupt to the core. Next...

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[bulekee]

if they close down, how long before any one notices ( or will things get better ?)

My thoughts exactly,lots of bodies but no brains.Just automate the rubber stamps.Immigration would be so much more efficient.

[ginjag]

lawlessness inthailand,

what a concept

Concept? Why I already thought it appears to be a reality. Every form of governance is corrupt to the core. Next...

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Some things we will miss badly.

Mini buses speeding around escorted by flashing police cars, taking them to an OTOP shop opening.

No contracts to cream off.

No junior staff having to pay their boss 100,000 baht for promotion.

No free trips to SPECIAL functions in other cities.

Police to not receive any pocket money for escorting.

All internet access not needed for games during work hours.

No access to bosses any more, (but usually not at work anyway) tending their own business.

Any additions guys ?? the list goes on.

[chainarong]

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Of all the dummb things that the Thai's have to follow is something that's bad from America. Keep it simple, stupid!

You must bring down a yearly budget for wages and consumables for departments, every government has to do this, otherwise , in Thailand you are getting a repeat of the rice scheme in larger proportions , I was wondering when they would wake up to this problem.

[chainarong]

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lawlessness inthailand,

what a concept

Concept? Why I already thought it appears to be a reality. Every form of governance is corrupt to the core. Next...

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Mini buses speeding around escorted by flashing police cars, taking them to an OTOP shop opening.

No contracts to cream off.

No junior staff having to pay their boss 100,000 baht for promotion.

No free trips to SPECIAL functions in other cities.

Police to not receive any pocket money for escorting.

All internet access not needed for games during work hours.

No access to bosses any more, (but usually not at work anyway) tending their own business.

Any additions guys ?? the list goes on.

Nothing there for me , the place isn't corrupt enough for me.

[MaxLee]

But if worse comes to worse, he suggested that the government consults the Election Commission which could allow the budget to be expended even without the budget bill.

The Election Collection committee, everybody's favorite dump-hole and garbage collectors, those bunch of ignorant cowards who played Yes-men for Pheu Thai's request for their last 'failed elections.... As if a sensible human with common sense would entrust their budget to these buncn of backstabbing *behinds*-wiping cowards....

US shutdown???? No innovation only COP-YYYYYYYYY from the mistakes of the so called world power.....

[rickirs]

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" But if worse comes to worse, he suggested that the government consults the Election Commission which could allow the budget to be expended even without the budget bill. "

And there is the nugget in this announcement. Pheu Thai simply wants to draw funds indefinitely with EC approval - for a whole fiscal budget ! - with no parliament, no legislative authority. In their dreams. Yes, the administration is dismantling. Pheu Thai has tried so hard to create the illusion that they are actually functioning. No, they aren't. And they weren't, even before dissolution. They want the process to work more efficiently ? Stop stalling the legal process. Allow it to proceed.

Well, what a simple situation.

On fact better than anything anyone came up with.

Just make it the case that if there is no sitting government , that the budget is last years main budget + inflation. Make sure that all the stuff that was set aside as a yearly stimulus expires and hey presto, you don't need a government any more.

I am surprised you haven't seen how this idea actually helps the pdrc.

PDRC doesn't want to get rid of government, only get rid of a PTP government. The PDRC/Democrats want to be in control of government to re-establish its political agenda to take the country back to its policies of 2007.

The changes you suggest require legislation, changes to the constitution, or both. With an interim government none of those actions can occur. Suthep knows that his reforms are not constitutional and has announced that publicly. But with his unelected People's Committee with him as Secretary General in control of the government will suspend the constitution so that charter changes can be made.

[rreddin]

" But if worse comes to worse, he suggested that the government consults the Election Commission which could allow the budget to be expended even without the budget bill. "

And there is the nugget in this announcement. Pheu Thai simply wants to draw funds indefinitely with EC approval - for a whole fiscal budget ! - with no parliament, no legislative authority. In their dreams. Yes, the administration is dismantling. Pheu Thai has tried so hard to create the illusion that they are actually functioning. No, they aren't. And they weren't, even before dissolution. They want the process to work more efficiently ? Stop stalling the legal process. Allow it to proceed.

The PTP dont want the process to work more efficiently! They want everything they say to be approved without scrutiny. They have even shown numerous times that if they cant get money through legal channels they try to use illegal channels.

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You are so jaundiced! Try some realism, it might give you a healthier perspective.

The constitutional provisions never envisaged a situation where the country would be under a caretaker government for so long. If there is no legal budget then there is no government expenditure. Hey that means no pay for teachers and that means schools will close, no pay for hospital workers - no hospitals, the armed forces, the police, civil servants and the list goes on. If the government departments are closed that means no tax revenues are collected, no air traffic control - no flights through Thai controlled airspace, no infrstructure maintenance, pensions not paid. Companies doing business with government departments going out of business with the associated job losses.

Any government facing these circumstances is duty bound to find ways to keep the government functioning. The EC is not the appropriatet body to determine the county's fiscal policy. That is the job of a democraticalle elected government. The sooner elections are held the better and the EC should get on with the job.

[soalbundy]

Failed state coming to your neighbourhood soon

[BillyBobThai]

The zombie apocalypse has started with the Thai government leading the way.

[thesetat2013]

" But if worse comes to worse, he suggested that the government consults the Election Commission which could allow the budget to be expended even without the budget bill. "

And there is the nugget in this announcement. Pheu Thai simply wants to draw funds indefinitely with EC approval - for a whole fiscal budget ! - with no parliament, no legislative authority. In their dreams. Yes, the administration is dismantling. Pheu Thai has tried so hard to create the illusion that they are actually functioning. No, they aren't. And they weren't, even before dissolution. They want the process to work more efficiently ? Stop stalling the legal process. Allow it to proceed.

The PTP dont want the process to work more efficiently! They want everything they say to be approved without scrutiny. They have even shown numerous times that if they cant get money through legal channels they try to use illegal channels.

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You are so jaundiced! Try some realism, it might give you a healthier perspective.

The constitutional provisions never envisaged a situation where the country would be under a caretaker government for so long. If there is no legal budget then there is no government expenditure. Hey that means no pay for teachers and that means schools will close, no pay for hospital workers - no hospitals, the armed forces, the police, civil servants and the list goes on. If the government departments are closed that means no tax revenues are collected, no air traffic control - no flights through Thai controlled airspace, no infrstructure maintenance, pensions not paid. Companies doing business with government departments going out of business with the associated job losses.

Any government facing these circumstances is duty bound to find ways to keep the government functioning. The EC is not the appropriatet body to determine the county's fiscal policy. That is the job of a democraticalle elected government. The sooner elections are held the better and the EC should get on with the job.

What a load of c--p!

The admins attempt to get the money to pay the farmers were all illegal. The constitution clearly stated that this departing Gov is not permitted to make a new debt for the incoming Gov and they knew this prior to their attempts. Any means does not mean any illegal means. The PTP and YL tried many times to do this when trying to get money to pay the farmers. And failed thanks to othera who spoke out.

This years budget was made last year. If you are trying to show me what will happen next with a budget for next year you ae wasting your time. Noone knows what will happen by then and I am certain they will sort it all out by them one way or another.

But as for my comment previously everyone has seen how the PTP does things without care or worry whether its legal or not.

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[Stan7444]

lawlessness inthailand,

what a concept

Concept? Why I already thought it appears to be a reality. Every form of governance is corrupt to the core. Next...

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Some things we will miss badly.

Mini buses speeding around escorted by flashing police cars, taking them to an OTOP shop opening.

No contracts to cream off.

No junior staff having to pay their boss 100,000 baht for promotion.

No free trips to SPECIAL functions in other cities.

Police to not receive any pocket money for escorting.

All internet access not needed for games during work hours.

No access to bosses any more, (but usually not at work anyway) tending their own business.

Any additions guys ?? the list goes on.

No 90 day residence notifications

No immigration visas issued

Sounds like a very peaceful time is coming

[diehard60]

Thank yo so much suthep. You have done a supper job of destroying a country and now you will have succeded in putting thousands out of work because of you arrogance. All this is on your head. because you can not and will not ever get elected (democraticaly) to run this or anyother country in the world.

[Scarpolo]

sounds like a country headed for a harsh correction, and massive defaults by their consumer soceity, too busy buying face creams and whitening agents to put away money for their mortgages and car payments

thailand has a hard landing coming

any more tourists canceling trips and it wont just be Thai airways announcing big layoffs it will be nation wide,

thailand doesnt have the resources to restart with empty hotels, and they are empty

[ginjag]

Thank yo so much suthep. You have done a supper job of destroying a country and now you will have succeded in putting thousands out of work because of you arrogance. All this is on your head. because you can not and will not ever get elected (democraticaly) to run this or anyother country in the world.

Near destroyed before he came onto the streets. This country was not governed it was torn apart and problems self inflicted. Think a bit mate.

[Scarpolo]

Foreign investment may do more than just stop flowing in,

it could also start flowing out

then, they are finished as they have nothing else to offer

[marcusd]

" But if worse comes to worse, he suggested that the government consults the Election Commission which could allow the budget to be expended even without the budget bill. "

And there is the nugget in this announcement. Pheu Thai simply wants to draw funds indefinitely with EC approval - for a whole fiscal budget ! - with no parliament, no legislative authority. In their dreams. Yes, the administration is dismantling. Pheu Thai has tried so hard to create the illusion that they are actually functioning. No, they aren't. And they weren't, even before dissolution. They want the process to work more efficiently ? Stop stalling the legal process. Allow it to proceed.

scamper, yes I agree but you get tied up,emotionally,in all this and you can do nothing except preach to the already converted. Relax. Thailand deserves what is coming

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[h90]

Thank yo so much suthep. You have done a supper job of destroying a country and now you will have succeded in putting thousands out of work because of you arrogance. All this is on your head. because you can not and will not ever get elected (democraticaly) to run this or anyother country in the world.

and it has nothing to do with Thaksin being corrupt and destroying the democracy? If everything would be so good Suthep would stand there alone but it seems millions are angry....

[marcusd]

Thank yo so much suthep. You have done a supper job of destroying a country and now you will have succeded in putting thousands out of work because of you arrogance. All this is on your head. because you can not and will not ever get elected (democraticaly) to run this or anyother country in the world.

orry but suthep has highlighted what business the nations employers and money spinners and many of the unthreatened people really want.

It is the thaksinites that have destroyed Thailand. Can't you remember Back 15 years?

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[marcusd]

Foreign investment may do more than just stop flowing in,

it could also start flowing out

then, they are finished as they have nothing else to offer

oreign investment is already going elsewhere

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