Thai protesters launch 'final fight' as government clings on

[Wombat6]

Sutheps final attempt to tear the country totally down !

Let's all hope he does not succeed .

Actually, he isn't trying to tear the country down, he's trying to tear the Shin Dynasty down and let's hope that he succeeds.

Yep. He is trying to tear a legally elected government down with his steroids blablabla. And that will lead to more misery..... "surrounding the police who hurt our people". He should have been thrown in Klong Plem prison months ago. That would have been the right tear down action.

This "legally elected Government' hasn't done anything they were elected to do. They have systematically gone about their own Agenda...IE Amnesty Bill, Rice scheme, getting relatives in key positions. They promised to reduce Corruption ( it has increased) The head of this Government (in name only) has succeeded in making Thailand a laughing stock amongst nations....someone had to stop this madness,

[brewsterbudgen]

Sutheps final attempt to tear the country totally down !

Let's all hope he does not succeed .

Actually, he isn't trying to tear the country down, he's trying to tear the Shin Dynasty down and let's hope that he succeeds.

Yep. He is trying to tear a legally elected government down with his steroids blablabla. And that will lead to more misery..... "surrounding the police who hurt our people". He should have been thrown in Klong Plem prison months ago. That would have been the right tear down action.

This "legally elected Government' hasn't done anything they were elected to do. They have systematically gone about their own Agenda...IE Amnesty Bill, Rice scheme, getting relatives in key positions. They promised to reduce Corruption ( it has increased) The head of this Government (in name only) has succeeded in making Thailand a laughing stock amongst nations....someone had to stop this madness,

If a Thai citizen doesn't like the government they can vote them out at the next election. That's how democracy works.

[Robby nz]

PDRC leader Suthep also said Friday night if the military still stay put and did not come out to do anything then he and protesters would act.

The military won't come out. The civilians behind the PDRC movement want a coup, but former military figures like Prawit Wongsuwan realize it'd play into PT's hands, which is probably true. Also Prayuth definitely doesn't want to stage a coup. Red shirt leaders are also against a coup, presumably realizing that if there was one, they'd be the first to be killed if they resisted or forced into exile or jailed if they didn't (hence Jatuporn's recent attempts to defuse tension). My guess though is that the govt thinks if it does go down, it might as well be from a coup. After all, that's what provides the most legitimacy when it comes to resistance and international condemnation. Of course, what's happening amounts to a coup whether by military force or otherwise. And once they lose power, I don't think they'll be getting it back so easily. If I had to say what Thaksin's chances of coming back to Thailand are now, I'd say zero or less than zero if that were possible. Still, I think most sane people would rather see compromise and a move to elections, even if it meant PT would stay in power.

Surely you aren't still hanging on to the silly notion that a Coup could possibly benefit Suthep ?

The only one who can gain anything from a coup is Thaksin.

He has been trying to goad the army into taking over with the shootings and grenade attacks and the statements from types like Ko Tee, Issan Rambo and others.

Once the army stepped in he could then say his legitimate Govt was once again ousted by the military.

He could then get international sympathy and form a Govt in exile.

His red army is now well organized to come out and terrorise the country putting the whole country in a similar situation to the south.

There are red leaders who have said as much, even detailing possible targets.

The army could never win in such a situation, as they cant handle the south now.

But fortunately the brass is on to him and isn't buying, so the next desperate move could well be to bring out the reds to goad the army some more.

Once the country was in such a state of turmoil and yes anarchy, then the savior (hero) could return and bring peace and unity to the country.

So your thesis is that Thaksin wants to trade having an actual PTP-controlled government in place for "a government in exile"? Really?

You probably haven't noticed but Thaksin hasn't got an elected Govt in power at the moment nor is he likely to have one in the foreseeably future.

He has now no chance of ever getting back into the country a free man and he will never come back to face the law.

There is not only the conviction and jail term he absconded from but all the other charges that are waiting to be heard against him at least some of which would result in a guilty verdict and he will never accept that.

Oh yes nearly forgot, its nice that you recognize that the PTP belongs to Thaksin.

Edited May 10, 2014 by Robby nz

[brewsterbudgen]

You probably haven't noticed but Thaksin hasn't got an elected Govt in power at the moment nor is he likely to have one in the foreseeably future.

He has now no chance of ever getting back into the country a free man and he will never come back to face the law.

There is not only the conviction and jail term he absconded from but all the other charges that are waiting to be heard against him at least some of which would result in a guilty verdict and he will never accept that.

Oh yes nearly forgot, its nice that you recognize that the PTP belongs to Thaksin.

Is anyone denying that PTP is Thaksin's party? Thaksin may not be popular with some ThaiVisa members, Democrats, and Suthep's mob but he and his party still retain support from many Thais. Their support may be waning and with the ineptitude of the last government PTP may have struggled to win an election in 2015 (when it was due), but all that has changed now.

[dcutman]

You probably haven't noticed but Thaksin hasn't got an elected Govt in power at the moment nor is he likely to have one in the foreseeably future.

He has now no chance of ever getting back into the country a free man and he will never come back to face the law.

There is not only the conviction and jail term he absconded from but all the other charges that are waiting to be heard against him at least some of which would result in a guilty verdict and he will never accept that.

Oh yes nearly forgot, its nice that you recognize that the PTP belongs to Thaksin.

Is anyone denying that PTP is Thaksin's party? Thaksin may not be popular with some ThaiVisa members, Democrats, and Suthep's mob but he and his party still retain support from many Thais. Their support may be waning and with the ineptitude of the last government PTP may have struggled to win an election in 2015 (when it was due), but all that has changed now.

The biggest problem with your theory, You seem to think Thailand is or ever has been a democracy.