Dems back Prayuth on reform council

[smedly]

Yes there's lots of harmony going on if you read a certain book and eat a sandwich in Siam Paragon..

Time to get your own head out of the dark recess you accuse others of having theirs, nobody is allowed to report anything or say anything that doesn't toe the party line, there's plenty of Thai's who would completely disagree with what you've said, their voices are being silenced, try having an open mind

Nothing is ever perfect, and once again, there was a huge part of the country who were never effected by the protests in the first place, or who cared about them, or felt any knock on effect to them either, life was as normal as it was 2 years ago.. Bangkok was a different kettle of fish.

You can't have harmony if you keep detaining people who have a difference of opinions!!

Don't agree with the insults mate - should not be part of any post on this forum but I do agree that the political parties need to take a back seat and stay well away from this process, they have had years of time to make a difference and they didn't - the Dems not nearly as bad as the Thaksin camp - they all need to shut up and let this process continue with what seems to now be people who actually know what they are doing and are determined to make it right - the last 4 weeks has confirmed what I have though all along - the criminals in this country have been in office for years highly organised - you could call it organised crime

[ggold]

Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva would offer his suggestions in person to the NCPO

Exactly why politicial parties should be part (not the whole) of the politicial reform so everything is out in the open and buy in is from everyone. Here we have the Democrats already wanting their ideas presented to the NCPO by Abhisit. Abhisit and the Democrats have already shown with their presentations prior to the Junta kicking all their asses out that the Dems think that their sh!t don't stink and everyone elses does and that the Dems have the only answer that is worth pursuing. Good way to keep the rift between the lot of them by going into open brain storming sessions with preconceived ideas that your way is the only way.

Khun Prayuth should thank the Dems for their support of his reforms to date, and tell these Dem p!sswits the truth that their crap stinks to, and this is the Junta's process, that any of their presentations will be to the open forum for consideration, and they along with all other politicial groups will be coming with open learning minds or exclude them from partaking in the reform process full stop.

And do you think PTP's shit smells any rosyer? Very one sided when only one political party is allowed make suggestions don't you think?

[Woodsie888]

All politicians in Thailand should be excluded, then put in prison, then sodomized by the wild rhino, then put into a barge, then sailed into the gulf of Thailand, then sunk....

That is the appropriate way to handle involvement by Thai politicians.

Thought for the day maybe??

Not sure about that, but it sounds really painful.

[Fat Haggis]

Yes there's lots of harmony going on if you read a certain book and eat a sandwich in Siam Paragon..

Time to get your own head out of the dark recess you accuse others of having theirs, nobody is allowed to report anything or say anything that doesn't toe the party line, there's plenty of Thai's who would completely disagree with what you've said, their voices are being silenced, try having an open mind

Nothing is ever perfect, and once again, there was a huge part of the country who were never effected by the protests in the first place, or who cared about them, or felt any knock on effect to them either, life was as normal as it was 2 years ago.. Bangkok was a different kettle of fish.

You can't have harmony if you keep detaining people who have a difference of opinions!!

Don't agree with the insults mate - should not be part of any post on this forum but I do agree that the political parties need to take a back seat and stay well away from this process, they have had years of time to make a difference and they didn't - the Dems not nearly as bad as the Thaksin camp - they all need to shut up and let this process continue with what seems to now be people who actually know what they are doing and are determined to make it right - the last 4 weeks has confirmed what I have though all along - the criminals in this country have been in office for years highly organised - you could call it organised crime

I don't think I was that insulting compared to my response to Thumpers insults?

There hasn't been a Government in power in the last 35 years that didn't involve corruption and abuses of power that resulted in their overthrow by the Mil, the track record isn't great, it's deja vu over and over again, are the Thai's capable of change? The track record and amount of coups would indicate that the answer is a resounding no!!... at the end of the day, the Thais need to sort their shit out!!

[JAG]

Doesn't it make sense for Abhisit and co to be contributing to these reforms? After all, when civilian government returns they will be the ones in power won't they?

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[city]

Aren't the army and the yellows good friends anyway?

some would say they are the political wing of the army

[toybits]

Hardly news. This is just confirmation...

[Robby nz]

Having read through all the poste on this topic I am amazed at how the OP has been twisted and misinterpreted, whether deliberately of from lack of understanding.

The Dems have said they agree with the General when he wants to exclude politicians from a reform council because their interests conflict with political reform.

That seems perfectly reasonable, they agree that all politicians, including themselves, should be excluded from a reform group, council, committee what ever you want to call it. And the bit about conflict of interest is also true

That is only from the actual group that are considering the reforms it does not mean that politicians or political parties can not contribute their ideas.

I note that no other political party has said the same.

The Dems have said they are ready and willing to contribute their ideas on reforms to the reform group "if the party was invited".

Don't see a problem with that either.

Also :He said the Democrats were ready to offer suggestions useful on reform, such as land reform to cut economic disparity.

As they had a land reform bill on the table which had been vetted by the council of state in 2011 but was dropped when the house was dissolved and never reinstated they would no doubt be able to offer that as a suggestion.

Next :He believed Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva would offer his suggestions in person to the NCPO if the party were invited to be part of the process.

So Abhisit would represent the party by being the one to offer suggestions, again "if the party were invited to be part of the process"

No problem with that either.

Now PT have said that : He said the party submitted Pheu Thai's reform plan and he suggested that the NCPO restore democracy as soon as possible and create an atmosphere where people with differing political beliefs could live together peacefully.

So they have already submitted their reform plan and once again beat the democracy drum. No invitation needed.

They also said : He said he wanted the country to have the rule of law and good governance and enforce laws without double standards.

That's great, no doubt we all agree with that, however it must be said that PT did not achieve that in their 3 years in office.

They have also told the General : He also told the NCPO that the country badly needed integrated water management and an integrated transport infrastructure.

Something they already know as these things are on the 'to do' list.

As I noted before, they never agreed that politicians should be excluded from a reform group because of conflict of interest.

Nor have any of the 50 odd other registered parties, could it be that they want to safeguard their own interests by being part of a reform group ?

[metisdead]

A post containing threats toward another member has been removed as well as the replies.

[Emster23]

Aren't the army and the yellows good friends anyway?

They are married !

nothing so mundane as that imho. More like mia noi relationship..... hmmm which one is the sugar daddy and which one the mia noi?

[fasteddie]

Well what a surprise, the fascists are backing the fascists! Who'd have thought?

[fasteddie]

Who needs political parties when you ally yourself with the real power in Thailand - the military.

Mr Suthep recently stated at a PDRC "charity event" that he had been advising Gen. Prayuth on how to unseat the Thaksin regime since 2010. He admitted he had discussed with Prayuth strategies to root out the influence of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his allies since the 2010 political violence. He further suggested that Gen Prayuth has been actively plotting to bring down former prime minister Yingluck Shinwatra, including the period leading up to the coup when she was defence minister. The Pheu Thai party never had a Pray(uth)er of survival.

Sadly I believe you are correct, the fascists will never let go!

[fasteddie]

Honestly, who really cares if the Dems agree or not with the NCPO. As with PT, they should be getting off their collective backsides and start floating real and genuine ideas NOW so that the people can have something to chew on. ATM it's all airy fairy hot wind. Nothing substantive. On the principle of setting a thief to catch a thief, they should be encouraged by the NCPO to get heavily involved in the reform process. This talk of them "taking advantage" is just so much hogwash. All anyone on the committee has to do is raise their hands and say "no" if they don't like a proposal.

They had their chance. they were told to go home study up on it and come back tomorrow with a plan. They blew it then. They weren't even willing.

Now they want in. Let them learn what it is like to pay for their arrogance.

I believe that their are honest politicians in all the different parties that really care about Thailand but how to sort them out is a big problem. Best to just skip them and go to the people who understand the problem and have no vested interest in it. At least not to big of a vested interest.

As the article said they all have suggestions. The best way to make them suggestions for the welfare of the country is to make sure that they have nothing to do with the party. They would not have a vote on them other people would be looking at them and evaluating them on there merit alone.

He said the party submitted Pheu Thai's reform plan and he suggested that the NCPO restore democracy as soon as possible and create an atmosphere where people with differing political beliefs could live together peacefully.

He said he wanted the country to have the rule of law and good governance and enforce laws without double standards.

Kind of admitting that was not the caser under the PTP. I* would be interested in hearing his version of restoring democracy as soon as possible. Also is he calling 48% of the people ruling 100% of the people democracy?

"Also is he calling 48% of the people ruling 100% of the people democracy?"

Yes! works most everywhere else.

[city]

Pheu Thai secretary-general Phumtham Wechayachai tweeted that he and Pheu Thai Party representatives, including the party's caretaker leader Wirot Pao-in, Chusak Sirinil and Chavalit Withayasuth, met with NCPO officials on Wednesday to discuss how to reform the country to "return happiness to the people".

#1 Drop all charges against the Shinawatra family.

#2 Drop all charges against PTP, TRT and any other Thaksin political creations.

#3 Drop all charges against UDD supporters.

#4 Make it legal to have criminals run the country while in exile.

#5 Make monk beating, child killing, grenade attacks and shootings legal so that PTP can properly express them selves.

Those ideas would all be on a PTP list I'm sure. Anyone want to add something?

Hey ramrod theres no chance of you making the debating team with that post. Not troubling MENSA anytime soon

[BirdsandBooze]

It should also extend to those who through financial backing pull the strings of the politicians, for they are the real power.