Thousands march for Gaza in London, clashes in Paris over Israeli onslaught

[mrtoad]

Your a Neo-Nazi or Anti-Semitic if you support Palestine?
 

 Who said that other than you? However, there is no denying that a lot of the people marching in the protests against Israel are neo-Nazis and anti-Semites who just want a chance to express their hatred in public. 

Absolute nonsense.

Care to prove it, or is this thread just going to be taken over by the usual Israel supporters spouting their bile?

[Jay Sata]

If I may quote him from today's Independant

 

 

Erdogun ,who has been a vocal opponent of Israel’s operations in the Gaza Strip, has said that the Israel Defence Forces' actions have been "disproportionate" and would derail any efforts to try and foster better Turkish-Israeli relations.

The comments align with the general mood of anger in Turkey at Israel's continued offensive in Gaza, which has so far seen over 350 Palestinians killed

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/turkish-prime-minister-says-israel-is-more-barbaric-than-hitler-9617145.html

Like any reasonable person I am sickened to see the news reports of innocent people being slaughtered by modern war weaponry.

 

[Ulysses G.]

Care to prove it, or is this thread just going to be taken over by the usual Israel supporters spouting their bile?

I have already proved it and so have other posters. I have posted numerous articles, photos and videos. Try actually reading these threads before you reply to them with clueless comments.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8126543


http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8127203


http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8127321


http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8127321


http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8127966 Edited July 20, 2014 by Ulysses G.

[ggold]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/5989

 

These are the people who brought you 9-11, whose ideology is the same as those who bombed London, Madrid and Mumbai.  In calling for death to the Jews, they distort the same religious teachings as those responsible for the massacre of kids in the Beslan school and the audience of a Moscow theatre.  All told there have been over 23,300 deadly terror attacks by Islamists since September 11 2001*.    

These militant friends of yours are followers of the same religious perversion as the barbarians who decapitated soldier Lee Rigby in broad daylight on a London street in a grotesque show before horrified witnesses.

This is the brotherhood which tries to blow people up at 30,000 feet with explosives hidden in shoes, underwear, water bottles and inkjet cartridges. Whose footsoldiers even now are developing new methods of murder in the skies. They are the reason why all passengers have to take off shoes and belts to go through all that scanning and frisking before getting on a plane. Without these new friends of yours, air travel might still be the enjoyable experience it used to be before another of their brothers,Yasser Arafat, brought terrorist hijackings into our peaceful world in 1969.

For those of you in academia: know that the folks you join hands with on Sunday are in the same tent as those who bullied English headteachers out of their jobs in order to radicalise the next generation in Britain’s own state schools.  The ‘Trojan Horse’ scandal is thought by investigators to be just the tip of a very ugly iceberg.

And to those of you who work in the media: spare a thought for the 100 and more journalists imprisoned in Islamic countries. Mr Erdogan’s brotherhood government of Turkey (a NATO country!) holds top spot for the 3rd year running, with more jailed reporters than even Iran. 

And do you even remember the name Daniel Pearl?  He was the Washington Post reporter who was decapitated on camera by the same brotherhood you stand with.  I don’t recall any of you media hacks protesting against that outrage on one of your own people. Maybe that’s because he also happened to be one of our people.

[NeverSure]

 

Care to prove it, or is this thread just going to be taken over by the usual Israel supporters spouting their bile?

I have already proved it and so have other posters. I have posted numerous articles, photos and videos. Try actually reading these threads before you reply to them with clueless comments.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8126543

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8127203

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8127321

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8127321

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744382-thousands-march-for-gaza-in-london-clashes-in-paris-over-israeli-onslaught/?p=8127966

 

 

Clueless beyond hope, but extra points for persistent in ignoring facts.  

[7by7]

How can Palestinians be anti Semitic when they, too, are Semites (look it up)?

 

To date, 456 Palestinians killed by Israel, 7 Israelis killed by Hamas in the current fighting (source).

 

Israel's excuse, and that of those who support them, is that Hamas hide in civilian areas. I wonder how that excuse would have been greeted by the Israeli apologists if the British government in the 1970's and 80's had bombed Republican areas of Northern Ireland because that's where the IRA were hiding?

 

All public demonstrations attract their fair share of nut jobs and political extremists; but to label all those who oppose this slaughter of innocent civilians by Israel as Neo Nazis shows a pathetic desperation by those making the accusation who know in their heart of hearts that Israel is in the wrong.

 

[JDGRUEN]

 

As per usual, there are lots of neo-Nazis and other anti-Semitic, hate groups out there fueling these things.


Neo-Nazis take centre stage at London anti-Israel protests

Prominent Holocaust deniers took centre stage during recent anti-Israel demonstrations in London, where participants included such prominent neo-Nazis as James Thring and Lady Michèle Renouf, as well as members of the far-Right Neturei Karta sect. The protest was organised by a variety of far-Left and extreme Islamist organisations, including War on Want, Palestine Solidarity Campaign, Stop the War Coalition, Islamic Forum of Europe, British Muslim Initiative, Palestinian Forum in Britain and Friends of Al Aqsa
http://standforpeace...srael-protests/

 

 

According to the Rundschau, student organization Left-SDS, Islamists and some members of the Neo-Nazi group National Socialists Rhein-Main attended the anti-Israel protest. Flags from Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Hamas were on display at the protest.
http://www.jpost.com...peration-362742

http://standforpeace...srael-protests/

As per usual, the tired old defense that anyone protesting against Israel is either a neo-Nazi or Anti-Semitic.

 

 

 

So the list of organizers is a list of kind and just people and not JEW HATERS and the organizers do not have an agenda - and the organizers are not dispensing false propaganda ... of course not (totally laughable)  They are just peace loving intelligent people who really know the score in the areas surrounding Israel ... OF COURSE THEY DO NOT... The organizers a.k.a JEW HATERS have the continual AXE TO GRIND... an that axe is the destruction of Israel - the annihilation of Israel - which just happens to be the stated ultimate purpose of Hamas...  

[Gillyflower]

I don't care what you all say. My sympathies are all with these poor Palestinians. I feel really sorry for them. I don't see the Israelis suffering too much.

[chuckd]

Pedantic semantics are rampant now.

[landslide]

Nobady has mentioned that Egypt attempted to broker a truce between Israel and Hama prior to Israel's incursion into Gaza.  Israel accepted.  Hamas responded by firing 120 rockets into Israel.  Israel warns Gazans of its intention to fire into an area, giving civilians time to seek shelter, even going so far as to fire low yield airbursts prior to actually initiating the attack.  Hamas prevents innocents from leaving the area..  Hamas fires rockets indiscriminately into Israel.  Israeli civilians are sent into shelters for their protection.  When Israel finally fires into Gazan territory, Gazan civilians are forced to stay put, while Hamas hides in tunnels.  Islam, the religion of peace.  My patootie,

[englishoak]

 

Your a Neo-Nazi or Anti-Semitic if you support Palestine?

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Not necessarily.

Sometimes yes.

That's the reality. 

 

 

And sometimes not.

 

THATS the reality.

 

Look past racial differences and ask yourself is the action of wilfully killing women and children right or acceptable ? if your answer is yes it means your not even out the tribal mentality  or cave,  your selfish and only self centred and I may add   if you think your own is worth any better treatment by anyone else by your own attitude you are totally wrong. 

 

If your persecuted or have been in any way in your life, due to your race, religion, sexual preference etc you have and had no right to complain to anyone, if you have you are  a total hypocrite to expect to be treated with any thought or care. Imagine how you feel when your treated badly for no reason than how or were you were born. 

 

Either your willing to absolutely condemn  your own leaders/establishment and even friends/allies when they kill innocents or are in the wrong or your a hypocrite bemoaning when it happens to you and yours. At least have the guts to admit it, I do about my Country, culture and short comings, try it sometime it might make you a more thoughtful person. 

 

The human race is degenerating in in so many ways even with all this supposed learning and becoming civilised, its really just another big fat Lie. The educated and better off have a duty NOT to act like animals by the mere fact that they are better off. They have no excuse not to.This is called civilised progress, not use that power to beat the crap out of the less able or well off. 

 

Leaders lead and should set the example, not use the power to abuse others further. That goes for bosses world leaders and leading nations. 

 

But thats an idealist notion the reality is humans are mostly a self righteous, nasty, selfish  piece of work. TV is full of examples.

 

We really arnt worthy to call ourselves a higher life form at all, even animals dont do what people do to each other. 

 

So go right ahead and pretend people being killed who arnt in your clan is ok if you wish. Show whatever example you want to justify killing  innocents and women and children in Gaza,  tomorrow itll be others thinking and saying exactly the same about you and yours and they would by your own disregard of others  be justified doing it. And so it goes on  

 

Bring on the excuses

Edited July 20, 2014 by englishoak

[NeverSure]

there we have it . Rewriting their own version of history by an arrogant Israel feeder. A country recognized by the United Nations and a hundred countries with consulates "doesnt exist"
And one of the countries that doesnt recognise Palestine as a state, look at the map,the country in the northern hemisphere that talks about "liberty and justice for all" .. especially if there are lots of voters with connections to a certain state.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

 

BS. You can't read from your own quotes?

 

The PLO started trying to establish a state called Palestine in 1988!!!!!!!

 

Before that there never was one - not even during the UN resolutions in 1947 after WWII.

 

There never was a people called "Palestinians" and there never was a country called Palestine until frauds who are there self-claimed it in 1988!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The was a region called Palestine that included all or part of several nations, but never such a country.

 

Read your own link. The current occupants are FRAUDS.

[Steely Dan]

What a squalid display of Israel derangement syndrome from Islamists leftist enablers. The most sickening aspect being false claims to morality from those who were totally silent when Boko Haram or any other Islamist group is doing the killing.


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[kingalfred]

"deranged Israel" is the best quote yet and it came from one of the supporters of that Terror state.


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[Jay Sata]

What a squalid display of Israel derangement syndrome from Islamists leftist enablers. The most sickening aspect being false claims to morality from those who were totally silent when Boko Haram or any other Islamist group is doing the killing.


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You can try to defend the slaughter in Gaza by citing terrorist groups elsewhere in the world but the attacks on the civilian population of Gaza is state sponsored by Israel using high tech munitions and aircraft.

 

Total indiscriminate killing of civilians is why people are taking to the streets in place like Paris and London. 

 

try and defend the murder of four little innocent boys playing on the beach and blown to bits by an Israeli naval warship.

 

There is only one country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons that are not open to inspection by the UN weapons inspectors.

[Jingthing]

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Bring on the excuses

 

OK. 

Fine.

Gaza is controlled by Hamas. 

A terrorist organization. 

Hamas charter clearly states: take over all of Israel, kick out/kill the Jews there, even kill the Jews everywhere.

They are rabidly antisemitic. There is no doubt about that. Not just anti-Israel. 

Hamas is rocketing Israel from Gaza.

This is a WAR situation.

Hamas was offered a peaceful way out. They decline. 

Hamas deliberately stores rockets in civilian areas.

They use human shields.

They don't bother to  build shelters for their  own people.

They are HEAVILY CULPABLE for the deaths of their own people in this way, violent provocation and predictable and JUSTIFIED military response.

To get at the rockets/tunnels Israel is forced to inflict casualties of innocents.

Hamas designed it that way.

Do I think Israel could do more to reduce civilian casualties?

Yes. I do.

I also think they could do less and critics of Israel don't give them any credit for the measures they do take which are more than many armies would. 

 

 

“Here’s the difference between us,” explains the Israeli prime minister. “We’re using missile defense to protect our civilians, and they’re using their civilians to protect their missiles.”

 

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-moral-clarity-in-gaza/2014/07/17/0adabe0c-0de4-11e4-8c9a-923ecc0c7d23_story.html

Edited July 20, 2014 by Jingthing

[Pralaad]

 

As per usual, there are lots of neo-Nazis and other anti-Semitic, hate groups out there fueling these things.


Neo-Nazis take centre stage at London anti-Israel protests

Prominent Holocaust deniers took centre stage during recent anti-Israel demonstrations in London, where participants included such prominent neo-Nazis as James Thring and Lady Michèle Renouf, as well as members of the far-Right Neturei Karta sect. The protest was organised by a variety of far-Left and extreme Islamist organisations, including War on Want, Palestine Solidarity Campaign, Stop the War Coalition, Islamic Forum of Europe, British Muslim Initiative, Palestinian Forum in Britain and Friends of Al Aqsa
http://standforpeace...srael-protests/

 

 

According to the Rundschau, student organization Left-SDS, Islamists and some members of the Neo-Nazi group National Socialists Rhein-Main attended the anti-Israel protest. Flags from Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Hamas were on display at the protest.
http://www.jpost.com...peration-362742

http://standforpeace...srael-protests/

Never realized how popular Neo-Nazism is in London and Paris.

 

 

Considering both countries are over run by muslims from Algeria, Pakistan, Albania, Turkey and Somalia, i am surprised you never realized it

[Pralaad]

 

What a squalid display of Israel derangement syndrome from Islamists leftist enablers. The most sickening aspect being false claims to morality from those who were totally silent when Boko Haram or any other Islamist group is doing the killing.


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You can try to defend the slaughter in Gaza by citing terrorist groups elsewhere in the world but the attacks on the civilian population of Gaza is state sponsored by Israel using high tech munitions and aircraft.

 

Total indiscriminate killing of civilians is why people are taking to the streets in place like Paris and London. 

 

try and defend the murder of four little innocent boys playing on the beach and blown to bits by an Israeli naval warship.

 

There is only one country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons that are not open to inspection by the UN weapons inspectors.

 

 

Yes the bad Israel

 

IDF sets up field hospital at Erez border crossing for injured Palestinians http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/IDF-sets-up-field-hospital-at-Erez-border-crossing-for-injured-Palestinians-363541

[wigantojapan]

Another British mandate coming home to roost

[Jingthing]

BTW, there are Israeli casualties too.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/20/world/meast/mideast-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

These soldiers died honorably serving their country fighting an anti-semitic terrorist organization. Israel must win every war or is there is no Israel. 

[Jingthing]

I am saddened there is war now. But Hamas forced it. Not desperately doing anything. 

[Jay Sata]

The onslaught in Gaza is not a war but sheer butchery using high tech weapons against an unarmed civilian population.

 

The UK Guardian carries this picture today of Israeli citizens enjoying the slaughter from nearby hills. What sort of civilized person could do this?

Israelis sit on a hill to watch air strikes on Gaza, some bring drinks and snacks as they cheer the explosions a few miles away. Photograph: UPI/Landov/Barcroft Media

As the sun begins to sink over the Mediterranean, groups of Israelis gather each evening on hilltops close to the Gaza border to cheer, whoop and whistle as bombs rain down on people in a warzone hell a few miles away.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing

 

[Ulysses G.]

Looks like they are watching to me and nothing more. 

Edited July 20, 2014 by Ulysses G.

[Bluespunk]

The onslaught in Gaza is not a war but sheer butchery using high tech weapons against an unarmed civilian population.
 
The UK Guardian carries this picture today of Israeli citizens enjoying the slaughter from nearby hills. What sort of civilized person could do this?


Israelis sit on a hill to watch air strikes on Gaza, some bring drinks and snacks as they cheer the explosions a few miles away. Photograph: UPI/Landov/Barcroft Media

As the sun begins to sink over the Mediterranean, groups of Israelis gather each evening on hilltops close to the Gaza border to cheer, whoop and whistle as bombs rain down on people in a warzone hell a few miles away.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing
 

And they are as contemptible as the scum who are firing rockets into Israel or celebrate the murder of those of another faith in the name of their own

I include all religions in that.

[Jingthing]

They live in a rural area. Better than watching haircuts. 

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/palestinians-starting-to-have-mixed-feelings-about,36497/

 

Palestinians Starting To Have Mixed Feelings About Being Used As Human Shields

 

 

Edited July 20, 2014 by Jingthing

[Pralaad]

The onslaught in Gaza is not a war but sheer butchery using high tech weapons against an unarmed civilian population.

 

The UK Guardian carries this picture today of Israeli citizens enjoying the slaughter from nearby hills. What sort of civilized person could do this?

Israelis sit on a hill to watch air strikes on Gaza, some bring drinks and snacks as they cheer the explosions a few miles away. Photograph: UPI/Landov/Barcroft Media

As the sun begins to sink over the Mediterranean, groups of Israelis gather each evening on hilltops close to the Gaza border to cheer, whoop and whistle as bombs rain down on people in a warzone hell a few miles away.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing

 

 

Yes a real party in comparison 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGB2Zv1YRC4

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io0VR56ZQ78

[Pralaad]

Same people really need to stop using the 4 kids on the beach as some kind of example.

 

It has been already said, their parents did not allow them to go on the beach, but they disobeyed and went.

 

Yes tragic, but they were not targets and if parents watched them, they would not have been on the beach.

 

The boys had apparently been told by their fisherman parents not to go outside amid the recurrent Israeli aerial attacks. But the urge to stretch their legs in the sunshine was too strong.

 

http://edition.cnn.c...flict-children/

[Jingthing]

More "not antisemitic" protesters in Chile. 

Chile is the home to a large population of Palestinians:

 

https://twitter.com/Kr0nekodow/status/490773335882493953/photo/1

 

 

[englishoak]

 

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Bring on the excuses

 

OK. 

Fine.

Gaza is controlled by Hamas. 

A terrorist organization. 

Hamas charter clearly states: take over all of Israel, kick out/kill the Jews there, even kill the Jews everywhere.

They are rabidly antisemitic. There is no doubt about that. Not just anti-Israel. 

Hamas is rocketing Israel from Gaza.

This is a WAR situation.

Hamas was offered a peaceful way out. They decline. 

Hamas deliberately stores rockets in civilian areas.

They use human shields.

They don't bother to  build shelters for their  own people.

They are HEAVILY CULPABLE for the deaths of their own people in this way, violent provocation and predictable and JUSTIFIED military response.

To get at the rockets/tunnels Israel is forced to inflict casualties of innocents.

Hamas designed it that way.

Do I think Israel could do more to reduce civilian casualties?

Yes. I do.

I also think they could do less and critics of Israel don't give them any credit for the measures they do take which are more than many armies would. 

 

 

“Here’s the difference between us,” explains the Israeli prime minister. “We’re using missile defense to protect our civilians, and they’re using their civilians to protect their missiles.”

 

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-moral-clarity-in-gaza/2014/07/17/0adabe0c-0de4-11e4-8c9a-923ecc0c7d23_story.html

 

 

Quote me fully or dont bother. Do you want to tell me you havnt been persecuted in your life yet say its ok to mistreat others ?  

 

Think outside the military shoot to kill box for a moment.

 

insanity definition as many have posted is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.. well consistent action taken by Israel by always responding in this overkill manner is insanity. 

 

The word terrorist is subjective, what is bombing and killing civilians (even if shields ) if not terrorism ? eye for an eye is the Jewish way as much as Muslim but it dosnt work longterm, all it does is perpetuate the killings and guarantee its never ending. 

 

Mossad is one of if not the most informed secret service on the planet and they cant take out or arrest the vast majority of terrorists in a cordoned off sector or dont know a better less destructive way of dealing with things ? really in this day and age or technology ? 

 

 

Critics of Israel and nowhere near enough when it commits atrocities and that should be its own people demanding a better answer ( many do ) but the media wont give them a voice as its controlled by the same pro Israeli megalomaniacs.

 

Palestinian population.

Gaza Strip 1,657,155

 

About 2/3 are women and children so that leaves roughly 500k of which not all are Hamas, far from it. No point walling up a people in a prison, its not an answer, nor is systematic land grab from the same people.... this is all part of the bigger issue and peace. 

 

For 60 years there has been no answer to the issue, we have moved on in both tech and education, it is high time other solutions were found and every time that Israel commits a crime or breaks the law the US comes down and vetos any international action against it, every single ****** time.

 

This is the rule of the jungle and is not a solution and is still to this day reminiscent of Europe going to the Americas and taking out the native population.

 

We should be able to by now to find better ways of dealing with issues than this. Yes Hamas are a nut group but so is Israels consistant response and its lack of will to find a solution or allow things to progress, The US is absolutely part of this by backing Israel 100% when its in the wrong.. It knows it can get away with it.

Edited July 20, 2014 by englishoak

[Jingthing]

Quote me fully or dont bother.
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Using snippets is within forum rules. If you have questions about this, consult the admins. 

Also, I am not interested in responding to your repeated personalized baiting questions, so please don't bother with posting them anymore as they will always be ignored.
Cheers.

Edited July 20, 2014 by Jingthing