Tarit shrugs off court decision to reject case against Abhisit, Suthep

[Lite Beer]

Tarit shrugs off court decision to reject case against Abhisit, Suthep
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The former head of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI), Tarit Pengdith, has shrugged off the Criminal Court's decision to reject the murder charge filed against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his former deputy Suthep Thaugsuban.

"In the end, things will depend on the Supreme Court's ruling," Tarit said yesterday. He spoke up after the Criminal Court on Thursday rejected the charges on grounds that it did not have jurisdiction to hear the case.

Initiated by the DSI, the complaint accused Abhisit and Suthep of murder for their roles in the Centre for Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES)'s operations against red-shirt demonstrators in 2010. Both Abhisit and Suthep were holders of top political posts at the time of the alleged wrongdoing. Dozens of red shirts were killed during the 2010 political unrest.

According to the Criminal Court, the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) should be the agency handling such a case.

Tarit said the Criminal Court did not suggest that the DSI had done anything wrong - it just recommended that the NACC handle the case.

Abhisit has accused Tarit of having an ulterior motive for pushing for the murder charges against him and Suthep.

"I have long explained that Suthep and I had simply carried out our duty in giving orders to the CRES to control the situation," Abhisit said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Tarit-shrugs-off-court-decision-to-reject-case-aga-30242113.html

-- The Nation 2014-08-30

[smedly]

did someone roll over a large stone - what a horrible man

[EricBerg]

Tarit showing his last moves before having to face justice himself. He and his buddy Chalerm damaged Thailand big time, spreading fear and intimidating normal Thai people for merely feeling sympathy for the demonstrators against his shinaclan.

He is one of the leaders that imo MUST be put behind bars. Preferably for a looooooooooong time.

Edited August 29, 2014 by EricBerg

[NongKhaiKid]

Tarit showing his last moves before having to face justice himself. He and his buddy Chalerm damaged Thailand big time, spreading fear and intimidating normal Thai people for merely feeling sympathy for the demonstrators against his shinaclan.

He is one of the leaders that imo MUST be put behind bars. Preferably for a looooooooooong time.

What has happened over his land encroachment ? The building was demolished but is that it, nothing has been reported as far as I know that he will face criminal charges ?

[MaxLee]

Tarit showing his last moves before having to face justice himself. He and his buddy Chalerm damaged Thailand big time, spreading fear and intimidating normal Thai people for merely feeling sympathy for the demonstrators against his shinaclan.

He is one of the leaders that imo MUST be put behind bars. Preferably for a looooooooooong time.

What has happened over his land encroachment ? The building was demolished but is that it, nothing has been reported as far as I know that he will face criminal charges ?

That's what you call FACE safety

[tx22cb]

Tarit showing his last moves before having to face justice himself. He and his buddy Chalerm damaged Thailand big time, spreading fear and intimidating normal Thai people for merely feeling sympathy for the demonstrators against his shinaclan.

He is one of the leaders that imo MUST be put behind bars. Preferably for a looooooooooong time.

My perception is that Tarit was never a leader. He was just a lackey to whomever was in power at that particular moment, being blessed with a supple spine.

When the Democrats were in power, he went after Thaksin-related targets.

When PTP were governing, he persecuted the "yellows".

[chainarong]

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Tarit showing his last moves before having to face justice himself. He and his buddy Chalerm damaged Thailand big time, spreading fear and intimidating normal Thai people for merely feeling sympathy for the demonstrators against his shinaclan.

He is one of the leaders that imo MUST be put behind bars. Preferably for a looooooooooong time.

What has happened over his land encroachment ? The building was demolished but is that it, nothing has been reported as far as I know that he will face criminal charges ?

And while we are about it, what happened NKK about that imported luxury car parts scam

[ramrod711]

BANGKOK: -- The former head of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI), Tarit Pengdith, has shrugged off the Criminal Court's decision to reject the murder charge filed against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his former deputy Suthep Thaugsuban.

The head of the DSI, who didn't know the identity of the person that bulldozed a road through his property and built two homes illegally on protected land. Oh yes, sounds like a crack investigator to me, this guy is a waste of skin.

[Frank James]

Has Suthep shucked off his monk robes, now that the heat is off? That was a great look for him. Did anybody see him out in the streets at dawn, getting rice and fish in his bowl?

[NongKhaiKid]

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Tarit showing his last moves before having to face justice himself. He and his buddy Chalerm damaged Thailand big time, spreading fear and intimidating normal Thai people for merely feeling sympathy for the demonstrators against his shinaclan.

He is one of the leaders that imo MUST be put behind bars. Preferably for a looooooooooong time.

What has happened over his land encroachment ? The building was demolished but is that it, nothing has been reported as far as I know that he will face criminal charges ?

And while we are about it, what happened NKK about that imported luxury car parts scam

Also neglect of duty in the extreme over the ' investigation ' of the ex-monk who was allowed to get away with all his money and wasn't exactly pursued to the ends of the earth.

it all stacks up against him or at least should but ... ?

[Tatsujin]

The word "scum" has been bandied around on here for quite a while . . . but if it was to ever be used correctly, it would be used to describe Tarit. The lowest of lowlifes.

[seajae]

why should he be worried, he did what his boss paid him to do and made up and filed bogus charges, probably already spent his bonus for doing it anyway. What a weasel of a man this piece of excrement really is.

[worgeordie]

What goes around,comes around,now he could/should be facing all

kinds of charges,Karma is alive and well.

regards Worgeordie

[fab4]

why should he be worried, he did what his boss paid him to do and made up and filed bogus charges, probably already spent his bonus for doing it anyway. What a weasel of a man this piece of excrement really is.

If the charges were "bogus" the OAG wouldn't have presented them to the court and the court would not have accepted them. Whatever you think of the man, the evidence exists, and as he says, it is now, or should be, up to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to deal with the case. This is where the NACC truly shows it's colours.

Edited August 30, 2014 by fab4

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BANGKOK: -- The former head of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI), Tarit Pengdith, has shrugged off the Criminal Court's decision to reject the murder charge filed against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his former deputy Suthep Thaugsuban.

The head of the DSI, who didn't know the identity of the person that bulldozed a road through his property and built two homes illegally on protected land. Oh yes, sounds like a crack investigator to me, this guy is a waste of skin.

Add, 'Tarit shrugged off.............'

In fact he lodged the charges in the wrong court. Surely this displays his lack of knowledge, focus, and lack of any credibility.

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why should he be worried, he did what his boss paid him to do and made up and filed bogus charges, probably already spent his bonus for doing it anyway. What a weasel of a man this piece of excrement really is.

If the charges were "bogus" the OAG wouldn't have presented them to the court and the court would not have accepted them. Whatever you think of the man, the evidence exists, and as he says, it is now, or should be, up to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to deal with the case. This is where the NACC truly shows it's colours.

Not that simple when you have someone pulling his strings.

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why should he be worried, he did what his boss paid him to do and made up and filed bogus charges, probably already spent his bonus for doing it anyway. What a weasel of a man this piece of excrement really is.

If the charges were "bogus" the OAG wouldn't have presented them to the court and the court would not have accepted them. Whatever you think of the man, the evidence exists, and as he says, it is now, or should be, up to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to deal with the case. This is where the NACC truly shows it's colours.

'The evidence exists.'

How's that fabie?

[klauskunkel]

He is a simpleton who held an important office. He filed the case with the wrong court. Case closed. Shrugging won't help.

Edited August 30, 2014 by klauskunkel

[fab4]

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If the charges were "bogus" the OAG wouldn't have presented them to the court and the court would not have accepted them. Whatever you think of the man, the evidence exists, and as he says, it is now, or should be, up to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to deal with the case. This is where the NACC truly shows it's colours.

'The evidence exists.'

How's that fabie?

It's fab4. Your colloquial use of my user name suggests a familiar bond between us that I can assure you does not, nor will ever, exist.

Now, Are you saying the evidence does not exist?

"We have evidence that showed that Mr. Abhisit and Mr. Suthep ordered security forces to disperse the protesters and authorized the use of weapon and live ammunition," said spokesman Nanthasak Poonsuk of the attorney general's office.

The attorney general's office said that although the deaths and injuries at the protests took place on different days, they were a "direct" consequence of the orders of both men.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304655104579163603342725302

It may be worth you and others reflecting on what the Criminal Court also said when deciding that their court was not the right place for jurisdiction of their case

On August 28, 2014, the criminal court ruled that it had no jurisdiction to try former Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and former Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban because they were political officeholders at the time. International human rights treaties to which Thailand is a party make clear that official status cannot justify immunity from legal responsibility for serious human rights violations.

However, the court found that Abhisit’s and Suthep’s decisions to authorize security forces to use live ammunition had led to the high number of casualties and that dispersal operations did not follow international standards on the use of lethal force. Prosecutors can appeal the criminal court’s ruling denying jurisdiction.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/29/thailand-court-ruling-furthers-impunity

[billd766]

why should he be worried, he did what his boss paid him to do and made up and filed bogus charges, probably already spent his bonus for doing it anyway. What a weasel of a man this piece of excrement really is.

If the charges were "bogus" the OAG wouldn't have presented them to the court and the court would not have accepted them. Whatever you think of the man, the evidence exists, and as he says, it is now, or should be, up to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to deal with the case. This is where the NACC truly shows it's colours.

And you know for a fact that the charges are not bogus.

Out of curiousity when did you get your lawyers qualification in Thailand and access to all the court documents including the evidence on this particular case?

[Baerboxer]

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BANGKOK: -- The former head of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI), Tarit Pengdith, has shrugged off the Criminal Court's decision to reject the murder charge filed against former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his former deputy Suthep Thaugsuban.

The head of the DSI, who didn't know the identity of the person that bulldozed a road through his property and built two homes illegally on protected land. Oh yes, sounds like a crack investigator to me, this guy is a waste of skin.

Add, 'Tarit shrugged off.............'

In fact he lodged the charges in the wrong court. Surely this displays his lack of knowledge, focus, and lack of any credibility.

He tried to charge them a private citizens and probably had a good idea the criminal court would reject it. It was never intended to go to court, just another lever for the boss's whitewash.

The NACC can file charges, but that would be in the defendants capacity has public office holders and being part of CRES. Tarit knows that he was also part of CRES at the times so would not want to go down that route as someone might incriminate him.

Wonder if the excessive amounts spent by CAPO under the leadership of Chalerm and Tarit will ever be audited?

[Baerboxer]

why should he be worried, he did what his boss paid him to do and made up and filed bogus charges, probably already spent his bonus for doing it anyway. What a weasel of a man this piece of excrement really is.

If the charges were "bogus" the OAG wouldn't have presented them to the court and the court would not have accepted them. Whatever you think of the man, the evidence exists, and as he says, it is now, or should be, up to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to deal with the case. This is where the NACC truly shows it's colours.

And you know for a fact that the charges are not bogus.

Out of curiousity when did you get your lawyers qualification in Thailand and access to all the court documents including the evidence on this particular case?

He will say that Tarit collected superb evidence and the totally unbiased AG reviewed it all very carefully before deciding to prosecute.

Yingluck, her caddy, her family and her political party, including the AG's boss never interfered or made any suggestions whatsoever as they are all well known for respecting the courts, rule of law and justice. Their behaviors speak volumes in the matter.

[ramrod711]

However, the court found that Abhisit’s and Suthep’s decisions to authorize security forces to use live ammunition had led to the high number of casualties and that dispersal operations did not follow international standards on the use of lethal force. Prosecutors can appeal the criminal court’s ruling denying jurisdiction.

Well, to use one of Fab 4s favorite terms: Scenario #1 The army moves in to disperse the crowd, men in black and armed red shirt protesters open fire on the troops. The army has rubber bullets, many soldiers are injured and killed. Fab 4 posts that it was irresponsible of Abhisit to send unarmed troops to a gunfight and Abhisit should be charged with negligence causing death. Fact is, you can't win an argument with Fab 4 because he will continue to spew his pro Thaksin nonsense.

[smedly]

This is now the problem

First the fact that these charges were invented in the first place by Thaksin through his lap dog Tarit as an attempt to create leverage even though any reasonable thinking person would know they are bogus leaves the victims and families actually thinking there was a case to answer

Now Thaksin can use these victims gullibility to pursue a disruptive course and make trouble just like in 2010, I wouldn't put it beyond a possibility, all these people need is an excuse and what they see as a just cause and it could easily boil over into the streets of the capital and that would not be good for anyone - remember there is pure evil at work here, Thaksin doesn't give a (deleted) who he kills uses and abuses to cause trouble

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why should he be worried, he did what his boss paid him to do and made up and filed bogus charges, probably already spent his bonus for doing it anyway. What a weasel of a man this piece of excrement really is.

If the charges were "bogus" the OAG wouldn't have presented them to the court and the court would not have accepted them. Whatever you think of the man, the evidence exists, and as he says, it is now, or should be, up to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to deal with the case. This is where the NACC truly shows it's colours.

And you know for a fact that the charges are not bogus.

Out of curiousity when did you get your lawyers qualification in Thailand and access to all the court documents including the evidence on this particular case?

Oh that's an easy question - the Robert 'database'. E&OE and twists aplenty.

[Nickymaster]

why should he be worried, he did what his boss paid him to do and made up and filed bogus charges, probably already spent his bonus for doing it anyway. What a weasel of a man this piece of excrement really is.

If the charges were "bogus" the OAG wouldn't have presented them to the court and the court would not have accepted them. Whatever you think of the man, the evidence exists, and as he says, it is now, or should be, up to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to deal with the case. This is where the NACC truly shows it's colours.

evidence exists of premeditated murder.... Yeah right fab4.

[jayboy]

did someone roll over a large stone - what a horrible man

That's no way to describe Abhisit, or Suthep for that matter.They may have blood on their hands but this need to be determined or otherwise in the courts.There must be a presumption of innocence until proved guilty.

But I appreciatre your disgust and revulsion at the deaths of many innocent civilians.

[bangrak]

why should he be worried, he did what his boss paid him to do and made up and filed bogus charges, probably already spent his bonus for doing it anyway. What a weasel of a man this piece of excrement really is.

If the charges were "bogus" the OAG wouldn't have presented them to the court and the court would not have accepted them. Whatever you think of the man, the evidence exists, and as he says, it is now, or should be, up to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders to deal with the case. This is where the NACC truly shows it's colours.

Please, as you write about showing its true colours, could you remind us about the ones the AG has shown, and whether he served the one who put him in that place well, ...f.i. in accepting to present bogus charges?

[whybother]

Now, Are you saying the evidence does not exist?

"We have evidence that showed that Mr. Abhisit and Mr. Suthep ordered security forces to disperse the protesters and authorized the use of weapon and live ammunition," said spokesman Nanthasak Poonsuk of the attorney general's office.

The attorney general's office said that although the deaths and injuries at the protests took place on different days, they were a "direct" consequence of the orders of both men.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304655104579163603342725302

It may be worth you and others reflecting on what the Criminal Court also said when deciding that their court was not the right place for jurisdiction of their case

On August 28, 2014, the criminal court ruled that it had no jurisdiction to try former Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and former Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban because they were political officeholders at the time. International human rights treaties to which Thailand is a party make clear that official status cannot justify immunity from legal responsibility for serious human rights violations.

However, the court found that Abhisit’s and Suthep’s decisions to authorize security forces to use live ammunition had led to the high number of casualties and that dispersal operations did not follow international standards on the use of lethal force. Prosecutors can appeal the criminal court’s ruling denying jurisdiction.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/29/thailand-court-ruling-furthers-impunity

That's not evidence of murder.

[halloween]

did someone roll over a large stone - what a horrible man

That's no way to describe Abhisit, or Suthep for that matter.They may have blood on their hands but this need to be determined or otherwise in the courts.There must be a presumption of innocence until proved guilty.

But I appreciatre your disgust and revulsion at the deaths of many innocent civilians.

Not only should there be a presumption of innocence until proved guilty, there should also be sufficient competence in those laying charges to bring the case to the appropriate court for rapid decision. As the AG and Tarit are assumed to be intelligent men, or at least have staff to advise them, can we assume the use of an inappropriate venue was a delaying tactic so that the charges could be used as a smear against the accused for as long as possible? And as neither have anything to gain from that, that is was done at the behest of others, in return for some consideration?