Thai French Beef Retail Store?

[pianoman]

I will be bringing a friend from Kalasin to Sakon Nakhon Immigration on Thursday, and would like to pickup / buy some Quality Beef Steaks while in the area... But if possible I would like to try to find the "Retail Outlet" actually in Sakon Nakhon rather than driving out to the operation outside of town...

Could anyone give me decent (easy to follow) directions on how to find the place in town???

Thank you in advance for any and all suggestions or help....

Pianoman

Edited September 15, 2014 by pianoman

[Issangeorge]

Pianoman, I don't know where it is, but I have been told their selection is poor.

[Issangeorge]

Pianoman, if you go to the main store, make a drive of your return trip. Instead of turning left when you come out of the store turn right and about 1 kilometer down the road turn right again. This will take you on a beautiful, non traffic trip through the mountains and you will come out just north of Khao Wong. A bit farther than you would normally go, but a nice drive.

[willyumiii]

What is "French Beef"??

I know of Kobe beef from Japan,

Argentine beef from South America,

I know of Thai beef and / or water buffalo,

And as a young man I worked on several Cattle ranches in USA.

What in the world is French Beef?

[Assurancetourix]

I think " french beef " is boeuf de Charolles ;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charolais_cattle

About the question from Pianoman; I know there is a french-thai farm not far from the town of Sakon Nakhon;

the name of the village ;

Pon Yang Kharm on the road 223 from Sakon to That Phanom and Mukdahan

https://www.google.fr/maps/@17.077511,104.20052,12z

When doing a Google research in french language we can find

http://www.thaifrenchbeef.com/PYK_ENG.html

Hope I can help

Edited September 22, 2014 by metisdead
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[pianoman]

What is "French Beef"??

I know of Kobe beef from Japan,

Argentine beef from South America,

I know of Thai beef and / or water buffalo,

And as a young man I worked on several Cattle ranches in USA.

What in the world is French Beef?french-cow-12582822.jpg

Many years ago the Thai King entered into an agreement with the French Government to breed a "High Breed" Beef Cattle using the best of Thai Cattle and the best of French Cattle... Hence the Name Thai - French Beef Cooperative, which was located outside of Sakon Nakhon... I discovered the place about 10 years ago and have been enjoying their products ever since... They actually ship most of their beef to the Up Scale Restaurants and Hotels in Bangkok... It is obviously more expensive than any other Thai Beef, but equal in Quality to some of the Best Beef available out of the States, especially when you consider that in the States the finest cuts of Beef are never available in the Stores, as they are reserved for the best Restaurants only...

When you go to their Ranch / Farm outside of Sakon Nakhon you can request and purchase the best cuts available and even tell them how you want them cut... Filet Migon. T=Bone, Rib Eye, Sirloin or whatever and it is all Fresh Cut, vacuum packed and wonderful... The only problem is the Ranch / Farm is about 15 minutes East of Sakon Nakhon so a trip out there and back adds about an hour or more to the trip after you drive out there, choose you cuts / order, wait while it is cut and then back into town to the road heading back to Kalasin... Several years ago they opened and Retail shop somewhere in Sakon Nakhon, but I have never been there so not sure where it is in Town...

Pianoman

[meatboy]

yep its pretty good compared to ausi beef and at half the price.last order was for about 30kilo's of sirlion,rib eye,top round,sirlion rump and stewing,most expensive was the sirlion at 5.95kilo and the cheapest at 2.30kilo.delivered to korat on their meat lorry that by-passes on its way to bangkok.

[kwonitoy]

What is "French Beef"??

I know of Kobe beef from Japan,

Argentine beef from South America,

I know of Thai beef and / or water buffalo,

And as a young man I worked on several Cattle ranches in USA.

What in the world is French Beef?french-cow-12582822.jpg

Many years ago the Thai King entered into an agreement with the French Government to breed a "High Breed" Beef Cattle using the best of Thai Cattle and the best of French Cattle... Hence the Name Thai - French Beef Cooperative, which was located outside of Sakon Nakhon... I discovered the place about 10 years ago and have been enjoying their products ever since... They actually ship most of their beef to the Up Scale Restaurants and Hotels in Bangkok... It is obviously more expensive than any other Thai Beef, but equal in Quality to some of the Best Beef available out of the States, especially when you consider that in the States the finest cuts of Beef are never available in the Stores, as they are reserved for the best Restaurants only...

When you go to their Ranch / Farm outside of Sakon Nakhon you can request and purchase the best cuts available and even tell them how you want them cut... Filet Migon. T=Bone, Rib Eye, Sirloin or whatever and it is all Fresh Cut, vacuum packed and wonderful... The only problem is the Ranch / Farm is about 15 minutes East of Sakon Nakhon so a trip out there and back adds about an hour or more to the trip after you drive out there, choose you cuts / order, wait while it is cut and then back into town to the road heading back to Kalasin... Several years ago they opened and Retail shop somewhere in Sakon Nakhon, but I have never been there so not sure where it is in Town...

Pianoman

I go to Sakon quiet regularly, any more specific directions to the Farm than that of above?

[SunsetT]

No one seems to be able to find the mythological "Thai French beef shop" in Sakhon Nakhon!

Here is an alternative for you:

http://pledge.meatfreemondays.com/?utm_source=FOE&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MFMFOE

[longstebe]

Just drive to the actual place, its really not that far outside of Sakon.

[sarotti]

Just drive to the actual place, its really not that far outside of Sakon.

Coming in to the city from Kalasin you will see the sign to Mukdahan to the right

You just follow road 223 towards Koksi Suphan./Mukdahan

On the way you will see the entrance to Thai French farm on your right hand side.

Edited September 22, 2014 by sarotti

[longstebe]

Just drive to the actual place, its really not that far outside of Sakon.

You just follow road 223 towards Koksi Suphan./Mukdahan

On the way you will see the entrance to Thai French farm on your right hand side.

Yep, you got it.

[sarotti]

When you enter the city coming from Kalasin just follow the road (it is Suk kasem Rd) all the way through until the road gets narrow.

In a light crossing you will have a steak restaurant to Your right. Just cross it and look for the meat shop on Your right side.

[metisdead]

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[sarotti]

There is a place in Udon called Chern Chim. There is a map to their place at Udon maps. Excellent beef and a very good selection. Very reasonable prices. It is not far off the bypass NE side of Udon. Only about an hour from Kalasin.

Hope this link is within limits.

http://www.udonmap.com/en/udonthani-business/food-a-drink/food-retailers/chern-chim-quality-foods.html

If in Udon you are better off going direct to the French beef shop

Boy am I confused...."It is not far off the bypass NE side of Udon. Only about an hour from Kalasin".???? The last 20+ times that I have driven from Kalasin to Udon, it has always taken me about 2 1/2 hours... Do you guys know a short cut that no one has told me about???

Pianoman

You have to go by air

[Jinjo14]

http://www.thaifrenchbeef.com/PYK_ENG.html

[SunsetT]

http://www.thaifrenchbeef.com/PYK_ENG.html

.................But where's the effin Map???

[wayned]

Under "contact Us", but the map shows their store in Bangkok.

[bleble]

I wonder why it's not more famous if it's as good as imported beef ?

 

And if the owner is dead, who manages the business since ?

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/563838-sakon-nakhon-thai-french-beef-owner-dead/

Edited September 12, 2017 by bleble

[Michael Hare]

6 hours ago, bleble said:

I wonder why it's not more famous if it's as good as imported beef ?

 

And if the owner is dead, who manages the business since ?

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/563838-sakon-nakhon-thai-french-beef-owner-dead/

The owner is not dead. Thai-French beef is run as a cooperative.  Francoise only managed the day to day running. 

 

The cooperative inseminates local Thai cattle in villages with Simmental and Charalais semen to get a good crossbred. The cooperative has contracts with local farmers in Sakhon Nakhon and Mukdahan to rear these animals up to a certain age for slaughter. I understand that that the cooperative will supply a lot of the animal feed. That is what Francoise told me some 20 years ago. The business may have changed since his death.

 

I work a lot in Amphur Nong Sung in Mukdahan province where the the cooperative has an slaughter house, a shop selling good beef cuts and a restaurant. However, Nong Sung is a bit off the beaten track for those wanting to just pop in, in passing, to purchase a few steaks etc. 

 

I would grade Thai-French beef about halfway between Australian beef and local Thai beef. For me, I like any beef that has been grass reared, never been indoors and never eaten an ounce of concentrate. That is very difficult to find in Thailand. Maybe also difficult in the USA.

 

 

 

 

[Isan Farang]

15 minutes ago, Michael Hare said:

The owner is not dead. Thai-French beef is run as a cooperative.  Francoise only managed the day to day running. 

 

The cooperative inseminates local Thai cattle in villages with Simmental and Charalais semen to get a good crossbred. The cooperative has contracts with local farmers in Sakhon Nakhon and Mukdahan to rear these animals up to a certain age for slaughter. I understand that that the cooperative will supply a lot of the animal feed. That is what Francoise told me some 20 years ago. The business may have changed since his death.

 

I work a lot in Amphur Nong Sung in Mukdahan province where the the cooperative has an slaughter house, a shop selling good beef cuts and a restaurant. However, Nong Sung is a bit off the beaten track for those wanting to just pop in, in passing, to purchase a few steaks etc. 

 

I would grade Thai-French beef about halfway between Australian beef and local Thai beef. For me, I like any beef that has been grass reared, never been indoors and never eaten an ounce of concentrate. That is very difficult to find in Thailand. Maybe also difficult in the USA.

 

 

 

 

If i am correct you live in Ubon, what's the drive time from Ubon to their shop.

 

Would you also know if after i check out the shop and know what they stock, can they accept order by phone or mail and send by bus to Ubon.

 

Next month i plan to head to Loei so also as an option i may slip in there on the way back to Ubon if the shop looks like having decent kit. 

[AliasJohn]

I am a former owner of a business in Ubon and I bought from Pon yang Kham many times. You can fax or phone a order to them, transfer the money to them and they will pack in a foam box and put it on a bus for you to pick up at the bus station. Simple as that.

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[meatboy]

I have been buying their beef for 8yrs.and I have never never had a bad piece.the best roasting is their sirloin/rump.

as for being in between ausi/thai I beg to differ,for me its on a par with ausi and half the price.

[Isan Farang]

12 minutes ago, meatboy said:

I have been buying their beef for 8yrs.and I have never never had a bad piece.the best roasting is their sirloin/rump.

as for being in between ausi/thai I beg to differ,for me its on a par with ausi and half the price.

Would you have an up to date link regarding what cuts they sell c/w costs.

 

When i try to Google all the information provided is very old

[meatboy]

27 minutes ago, Isan Farang said:

Would you have an up to date link regarding what cuts they sell c/w costs.

 

When i try to Google all the information provided is very old

I have the prices for my last order 27th.july,i have a chest freezer so I do buy a decent amount.

sirloin/striploin 716bht.includes ctting and packing steaks separate.

rib eye                640bht.

sirloin/rump      400bht.also known as pinbone.

brisket                 350bht.

all prices are per.kilo.orders over 5kilo's each cut you get a better price.

we meet the delivery lorry on its way to bkk.

you pay for delivery box and ice,plus 100bht.for the driver to meet you.

contact wonporn mob.0868596865

[Michael Hare]

I am now working in Nong Sung for the next 3 days. Just drove past their place. Seems to be renovations going in front with new offices and a restaurant being built.

 

We are talking about two different places. Pon Yang Kham is over in Sakhon Nakhon. The Nong Sung outpost is just that. An outpost. Same mother company but a branch. I still stand by my comments about the beef not being as good as Aussie beef. Maybe it is because the shop seems to have only frozen cuts and not fresh chilled cuts. 

 

Takes 2 and half hours driving from Ubon to get to Nong Sung (that is with a coffee break). Up highway 212 to Nikhom Kham Soi. Turn left into highway 2370 and drive 37 km to Nong Sung. The slaughter house is 2 km out of town on the highway 12 back towards Mukdahan. 

 

 

[Isan Farang]

2 hours ago, Michael Hare said:

I am now working in Nong Sung for the next 3 days. Just drove past their place. Seems to be renovations going in front with new offices and a restaurant being built.

 

We are talking about two different places. Pon Yang Kham is over in Sakhon Nakhon. The Nong Sung outpost is just that. An outpost. Same mother company but a branch. I still stand by my comments about the beef not being as good as Aussie beef. Maybe it is because the shop seems to have only frozen cuts and not fresh chilled cuts. 

 

Takes 2 and half hours driving from Ubon to get to Nong Sung (that is with a coffee break). Up highway 212 to Nikhom Kham Soi. Turn left into highway 2370 and drive 37 km to Nong Sung. The slaughter house is 2 km out of town on the highway 12 back towards Mukdahan. 

 

 

Regarding this place you just passed you mention office and restaurant, is this the same spot for the retail sales outlet ?

 

You mention outpost, do you have a name or link as i would like to give them a call prior to making the trip.

[bleble]

2 hours ago, Michael Hare said:

I am now working in Nong Sung for the next 3 days. Just drove past their place. Seems to be renovations going in front with new offices and a restaurant being built.

 

We are talking about two different places. Pon Yang Kham is over in Sakhon Nakhon. The Nong Sung outpost is just that. An outpost. Same mother company but a branch. I still stand by my comments about the beef not being as good as Aussie beef. Maybe it is because the shop seems to have only frozen cuts and not fresh chilled cuts. 

 

Takes 2 and half hours driving from Ubon to get to Nong Sung (that is with a coffee break). Up highway 212 to Nikhom Kham Soi. Turn left into highway 2370 and drive 37 km to Nong Sung. The slaughter house is 2 km out of town on the highway 12 back towards Mukdahan. 

 

 

 

It's obvious that if it was as good restaurants would sell only this beef and not over expensive imported beef.

 

 

[Michael Hare]

9 minutes ago, Isan Farang said:

Regarding this place you just passed you mention office and restaurant, is this the same spot for the retail sales outlet ?

 

You mention outpost, do you have a name or link as i would like to give them a call prior to making the trip.

Yes, they do retail sales. If I have time I will pop in tomorrow afternoon or on Friday when passing, and get a telephone number or something. Will let you know. 

[Isan Farang]

29 minutes ago, bleble said:

 

It's obvious that if it was as good restaurants would sell only this beef and not over expensive imported beef.

 

 

When you go to a restaurant, how do you know whare the beef comes from ?