DNA samples from two Myanmar workers match with those collected from British victim

[gemini81]

Please present this on display on channel 3, or in the news in view of the public eye, so we can confirm, and help build credibility to a police force with a reputation which precedes it.

[lostinisaan]

You can change DNA results as easy as telling somebody at a shop to triple the amount of money you're paying for something.

Why does it still smell fishy?

Weren't there other guys'' DNA already 85 % identical?

[eeworldwide]

"I think the tourist confidence will improve," Kobkarn Wattanavarangkul, Minister of Tourism and Sports told AFP, hours after the apparent confessions.

"The issue of tourist security is very important to us," she said.

On Tuesday tourist authorities announced plans to give holidaymakers wristbands carrying their personal details in an effort to ensure the safety of tourists.

Typical. In the midst of a MURDER INVESTIGATION - NOBODY should be talking about TOURISM!!!!

How about the course of justice? How about finding the real killers and bringing some sort of real and permanent closure to the bereaved families?

The fact that they are insensitive and obtuse enough to mention tourism in the middle of this fiasco, just pours oil on troubled waters, and further highlights the general incompetence, and I for one ( not that anyone would care) don't believe that any of these apparent "confessions" are real.

It's funny, isn't it - how in a nation so apparently entrenched in Buddhism, no-one really believes in Karma?!!

Because if they did - Thailand is surely due for one incredible cosmic ass-kicking.

[lumply]

Excellent news. Now what will it take to convince the skeptics on TV?

[IamNoone88]

Even my Thai staff don't believe it!

[bruceybonus]

Excellent news. Now what will it take to convince the skeptics on TV?

Excellent news. Now what will it take to convince the skeptics on TV? all over the world!!!

As you have probably had your head in the sand, the Thais don't believe it either. If you had bothered to learn to read Thai, then you would know this

[ChiangMaiThai]

So does this mean that they weren't tested the first time around? When they tested so many Burmese? They didn't test three Burmese that worked in the bar where the deceased had been right before they were murdered??!!!?!! Why wasn't there a match the first time around??

This! Repeat 100 times.

Is there any journalist in this country willing to ask the blatantly obvious questions or do they all just print whatever the higher ups tell them?

The FBI confirmed that the semen was from an Asian correct? To put a rest to all this (and to prove that the police are just massively incompetent rather than horribly, horribly corrupt), let the FBI visit with these three men, collect DNA samples, and tell us all if there is a match.

Until then, this appears so wrong in so many ways.

[Cheops]

Just one question:

Why would the actual killers still stay after all this time they had to flee?

[slipperx]

No murder investigation is going to be 100% perfect. There will always be some amount of doubt. All anyone can ever do is look at all the evidence, and see which way it points. And right now most of it points to the 3 suspects in custody.

The problem is one of public confidence as much as the veracity of the evidence.

Unfortunately, despite the clueless British Ambassador praising the professional and exemplary police work, the other 15 billion people in the world can see the utter shambles that was the police work shown to the world. From failing to secure the crime scene, contamination of evidence, failure to DNA test certain influential people, the publication of crime scene photos by the police and on and on ..... It was the antithesis of exemplary police work to the point that almost no one believes what the police are saying anymore.

The Ambassador can sing his Lorelei song but he is singing solo.

There will be no closure on this case unless the British Police Force - a very good an honest police force by and large though certainly not perfect, are invited to take their own DNA samples from the accused and compare with the DNA they have from the repatriated bodies.

If they do that and the samples match then there will be closure. The only reason this would not be done would be because the accused are innocent and some other scumbag is being protected.

If not then the Thai Police will he viewed as corrupt and incompetent by anyone with half a brain.

[rethaier]

Gee the DNA testing labs are quick these days. But I am still not convinced.

[bruceybonus]

Well done RP, you have now declared open season on ALL westerners. If this isn't a green light for all and sundry to rape & murder at will, then what is!

[globalmedia8]

wow the dna matched im shocked

[crazykopite]

Should we be surprised NO of course not a Thai would never never do such a terrible thing to a fellow human being.

[Artisi]

So does this mean that they weren't tested the first time around? When they tested so many Burmese? They didn't test three Burmese that worked in the bar where the deceased had been right before they were murdered??!!!?!! Why wasn't there a match the first time around??

In many countries when the police have nothing, they throw smoke about and then wait to see who starts mouthing off. Seems to me that this may be what happened.

Maybe so, but this IS Thailand and the BIB would never stoop so low as to tell untruths, now would they?

[bino]

Once again, Thailand saves face because "They not Thai people."

[orosee]

That's it then. Unless they rescind their confessions after talking to a lawyer, that case is closed for the public eye. Just a tragedy of wrong place, wrong time; not a mafia hit not a hi-so cover up. I can see how that disappoints many here. No matter who the real murderer is, at least hang a Thai.

Let's see how this develops when it goes to court, and don't expect it to be Den Haag. Plenty of opportunity to slam Thai justice corruption then.

As for Thaivisa, these 3 guys might as well be nicknamed Lee, Harvey and Oswald.

[ozsamurai]

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No matter what dog'n'pony show they put on I think we all know it is BS. Push for independent confirmation collected and evaluated OUTSIDE THAILAND.

Oz

The DNA found on the victims was done in Singapore.

Unless it is taken from the victim by an independent source other than the RTP who are looking to save face, then evaluated against the accused's DNA OUTSIDE Thailand, it is BS.

Oz

[bongoz]

well done!

and done in the Thai way!!

I love it!!!

it's one reason I stay, anaother reason I love this place.

Why even bother?

[bongoz]

We can't forget that Thailand country and they have every right to govern their country any way they see fit.

That doesn't mean for one second I agree with what has transpired with the 'investigation' of this tragic murder double case.

ABC Australia news stories have not questioned the authenticity of the confessions or validity of the alleged perpetrators DNA.

[chrisinth]

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Just one question:
Why would the actual killers still stay after all this time they had to flee?

If a person was there one minute and gone the next, in the middle of a murder investigation, would that not appear very suspicious especially if they had jobs?

Hide in plain sight..........

[uty6543]

Excellent news. Now what will it take to convince the skeptics on TV?

Proof beyond a reasonable doubt would do it for me.

[Docno]

This has perhaps been mentioned before but here goes anyway... See this article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777726/Myanmar-worker-admits-British-murders-Thailand-police.html

Now, they have a CCTV cap of the three suspects on a bike on the night of the murder. They also show the well-known 'running man' CCTV video, also taken that night. In the first cap, two of the men are wearing long pants and the middle man is wearing dark/black shorts. The 'running man' is wearing light coloured shorts. Yet these are supposed to be the same suspects on the same night. Huh???

[stevehaigh]

No matter what dog'n'pony show they put on I think we all know it is BS. Push for independent confirmation collected and evaluated OUTSIDE THAILAND.

Oz

the wife said that Thai TV said the DNA was sent to Singapore for testing. i haven't heard anything about that in the English press

[Nemesis7]

Totally BS.

Trying to save face telling the forensic experts to help save country's image??

Unless it's re examined by the British expert team I don't believe a single word.

[spermwhale]

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Unless I hear a confirmation from the British police or the FBI, I will never believe the results "obtained" by the Thai police.

While Thai cops are bumbling idiots they are experts at planting evidence.

[Phra Ek]

I think we're all falling into the trap of judging the local Justice System based on our experiences 'back home'.

In US and Europe there is the system of "Innocent until proven guilty".

In most of Asia there's a system of "Guilty until your wealth and influence prove your innocence"

We just need to understand we're not in Kansas anymore and then it all makes sense.

[BestBitterPhuket]

If this is correct it's very good. I hope they have other evidence too. One can't help to ask if this is really it.

They claimed at one point that the Asian "mystery man" was seen in the video wearing the victims shorts, and his bloodied pants were found at the scene. Is this correct. Is one of the three Burmese seen in the videos?

[FlipSide]

Apparently the word on the street from the Thai & Expat locals down on the islands, who agree that the real culprits are the local mafiaso families, and are at frustration point because they seem to wielding enough power to push the boys in brown & in green around. (and the media) That's scary!, I really hope we are all wrong, but there is a big stinky rat in there somewhere.

[apalink_thailand]

No matter what dog'n'pony show they put on I think we all know it is BS. Push for independent confirmation collected and evaluated OUTSIDE THAILAND.

Oz

Its done and dusted. Now its time for the show trial. The real murderer is still on the island and can kill again.

[IAMSOBAD]

So does this mean that they weren't tested the first time around? When they tested so many Burmese? They didn't test three Burmese that worked in the bar where the deceased had been right before they were murdered??!!!?!! Why wasn't there a match the first time around??

You hit the nail right on the head.

Follow the money. Why did they try to get the taxi driver?

All the Thaier than Thai believe the cops. The ones who have first hand knowledge of the RTP...DO NOT.