Morocco sentences 70-year-old British tourist in jail for being gay

[Jingthing]

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The guy arrested was effectively a homosexual sex tourist caught with a guy a third of his age and very indecent photos on his phone allegedly something to do with a fist and an anus so he wasn't just some gay guy minding his own business waiting for a bus and taking in the sun (maybe he was taking in a son?)

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Gay people on rare occasions have been known to have sex just like their fellow not gay human beings. Of course being gay is not only about sex, but it's not necessarily all about liking show tunes either.

Curious about your remark about the sexual act of fisting. That's kind of an unusual sex act and certainly not something the majority of gay people engage it.

So I guess I suspect your reference to fisting was a trollish insertion. If I'm wrong about that and there was a fisting pic on his phone (it is true a minority of gay people do enjoy that), can I ask you to either provide a credible source to verify that, or if not, perhaps just admit you made it up. If that is real, my apology for doubting it.

No, I don't think there is anything wrong per se with fisting if it is done between consenting adults ... but I can understand if police in a more conservative country saw pics like that, they would be more likely to get overly excited.

Whether gay people should avoid travel to countries that have criminalized homosexuality, well, that is something I think gay people should be aware of and to make their own decisions about that. I have traveled to some such countries and what is normally done is to check media for information about actual enforcement patterns in effect. For example, prostitution is illegal in Thailand, but that doesn't stop the reality of Thailand still being a place where a massive amount of prostitution takes place, for the most part, not prosecuted against in any way.

Edited November 4, 2014 by Jingthing

[japsportscarmad]

Yes here's the link

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/f39/ahyt/us/blogspot/28546/

There's a link inside the post to a national news source over there where the offence happened so it's all above board so I accept your apology Thankyou.

There was a lot of debate about it as no one seemed to know what it was, or at least admitted it, it's a white nationalist site so some of the debate may be considered offensive to those of a homosexual nature, jewish, black or of a non white European background and the blog is US based so you can imagine some of the likely comments, hence why I didn't send the link with the original reply as some is very offensive. It's actually quiet informative though if you can sort the west from the Chaff.

Even in Islamic countries you are unlucky to get arrested for just standing at a bus stop not doing anything but waiting for a bus, so there must have been something else. Like I said if you know your likely to go somewhere and your likely to break the countries laws then best not to go or you might be arrested. Just what happened to this guy it's sad for the old guy but he shouldn't have gone if he was going to break the law wether the law is good or bad.

[Jingthing]

Yes here's the link

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/f39/ahyt/us/blogspot/28546/

There's a link inside the post to a national news source over there where the offence happened so it's all above board so I accept your apology Thankyou.

There was a lot of debate about it as no one seemed to know what it was, or at least admitted it, it's a white nationalist site so some of the debate may be considered offensive to those of a homosexual nature, jewish, black or of a non white European background and the blog is US based so you can imagine some of the likely comments, hence why I didn't send the link with the original reply as some is very offensive. It's actually quiet informative though if you can sort the west from the Chaff.

Even in Islamic countries you are unlucky to get arrested for just standing at a bus stop not doing anything but waiting for a bus, so there must have been something else. Like I said if you know your likely to go somewhere and your likely to break the countries laws then best not to go or you might be arrested. Just what happened to this guy it's sad for the old guy but he shouldn't have gone if he was going to break the law wether the law is good or bad.

Wow. How obscene. Your link is a "White Power" NEO NAZI website. You have not provided any evidence of your reference to FISTING so no apology. If you have a credible link from a reasonable credible news source, post that, not to such OFFENSIVE INFLAMMATORY GARBAGE.

If the best you've got is sending us to an odious hate group site (which includes gays as people to hate) I think most reasonable people are going to conclude that the fisting thing in this case is a FICTION.

I have no issue with your opinion that gay people should not travel to countries that oppress them with anti-gay laws even though in my opinion that is a private matter of personal choice. Also depending of course on what the gay person might be doing in that country. If things open up in Iran for Americans to travel I would be interested in travelling there someday but personally I would not be seeking out gay nightlife there. It's all relative and situational. Like a gay person going to Singapore and visiting a gay sauna there, they are almost definitely going to be OK, law or no law, and it would kind of paranoid to avoid enjoying the gay social life there if that was desired due to laws that aren't seriously enforced.

Edited November 4, 2014 by Jingthing

[japsportscarmad]

Yes here's the link

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/f39/ahyt/us/blogspot/28546/

There's a link inside the post to a national news source over there where the offence happened so it's all above board so I accept your apology Thankyou.

There was a lot of debate about it as no one seemed to know what it was, or at least admitted it, it's a white nationalist site so some of the debate may be considered offensive to those of a homosexual nature, jewish, black or of a non white European background and the blog is US based so you can imagine some of the likely comments, hence why I didn't send the link with the original reply as some is very offensive. It's actually quiet informative though if you can sort the west from the Chaff.

Even in Islamic countries you are unlucky to get arrested for just standing at a bus stop not doing anything but waiting for a bus, so there must have been something else. Like I said if you know your likely to go somewhere and your likely to break the countries laws then best not to go or you might be arrested. Just what happened to this guy it's sad for the old guy but he shouldn't have gone if he was going to break the law wether the law is good or bad.

Wow. How obscene. Your link is a "White Power" NEO NAZI website. You have not provided any evidence of your reference to FISTING so no apology. If you have a credible link, post that, not to such OFFENSIVE INFLAMMATORY GARBAGE.

Also please refrain from posting links to such obviously blatant HATE GROUPS. These horrible people are total racists, they hate Jews, gays, blacks, and pretty much anyone who isn't so called Aryan based on Nazi ideology. Nazis, basically. Not that I'm surprised that you would be following Nazi sites based on your toxic posting history, but just warning other people -- that is a NAZI webstite.

Stop been a Troll

If you bothered to read my post I did warn you that the site may not be to your taste as is without doubt right of centre. And as a White nationalist site gives disenfranchised people their right to their opinions and to be able to voice them wether you believe it or not.

However, there can be no NAZIs on the site as the very term means National Socialist and the National Socialists were disbanded in 1944 at least apart from a few splinter groups that exist in their own little sad worlds. In fact I would oppose any NAZIS as they know little of history.

Just because you believe in one version of history other people have a right to question it and discuss it and Nationalism is something I am sure you will suport if it suits your own political stance and country. Furthermore, you should not judge people or news sources just because it doesn't fit with your own political, sexual or other views or you could be considered following in the Footsteps of Stalin and Hitler in styfelling legitimate debate.

[Jingthing]

I'll let that defense of a "White Power" hate group website and ideology stand. It is indeed self damning.

Normal people who are disgusted by "White Power" haters I think will properly totally discount the flame about fisting hurled at the unfortunately jailed gay Brit, who has now happily been freed.

The fisting thing coming from such a hate group site is clearly about supporting demonization of gay people in general and trying to sell the lie that gay people are all into super freaky sexual practices. A bit odd considering studies have shown that right wing people are actually more KINKY than left wing people ... but, whatever.

Not that there is anything wrong with consensual kinky practices ... but there is something wrong with unsubstantiated insinuations like that to be used to support the agenda of far right wing fascist hate groups.

Edited November 4, 2014 by Jingthing

[japsportscarmad]

Go away you nasty troll.

You defend the Zionist right wing but won't let white people have a view your just another form of hater.

[Jingthing]

Back to the topic which surprise surprise has nothing to do with Israel , there is no evidence of the flame charge of fisting pictures on the Brit's camera (outside gossip on an anti-gay "White Power" website). So I think that's sorted. This Brit is a human being with a name and family members who love and respect him. I think people should think twice about posting nasty gossip about people, even people in the news, if they can't back it up. Again, personally I don't care if people want to do fist play, but in context of how that flame attack was posted here, and the White Power/Neo Nazi source, yes, it is out of bounds.

Edited November 4, 2014 by Jingthing

[japsportscarmad]

Flame attack are you real? Your just a troll, please try to chill out and respect other people's opinions rather than trolling people who don't agree with your strange head filters of what people have to believe is the same as you. You seem to be fascinated by this fisting stuff and miss the point that when in a foreign country you have to follow the rules of that country not the one you came from Dhooo.

Yes the guy is a human being' he can't help been gay it's how he is, and he's allowed to be gay (in his own country that allows it) but he put himself in a position that led to his arrest needlessly by going to a country where been gay is illegal and doing something to make the authorities arrest him, so why should we be made to feel sorry for him, he was a grown up making grown up decisions going to an Islamic state which has laws against been gay, so why bother going there? And why would anyone want to suport a country with such laws by going on holiday to it helping their economy?

You wouldn't come to Thailand and insult the King as you would be arrested! You wouldn't allow a Pakistani man to have sex in the UK with a 12 year old, which is legal in Pakistan would you he would hopefully be arrested, so why is this any different the man broke the law of that country not his own and was arrested for it and put in jail it seems quiet simple even to me with my basic education.

And in any case I followed the story so it doesn't mean that I suport the things on the forum only that I found the information on it by following a link myself, hence why I didn't want to publicise the forum until you demanded the link so your self defeating effort to troll failed and publicised the web site.

Please try to relax and chill out a bit and please stop trolling about things it's just not nice!

I'm so sick of your trolling and abuse I am not even going to reply to you again.

Edited November 4, 2014 by japsportscarmad

[Jingthing]

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I am not even going to reply to you again.

Glad to hear it!

BTW, I was not the one to throw the dirt about fisting. You did. I asked for verification because I smelled a rat. You come up with a Neo-Nazi hate group forum website. Readers can judge.

Edited November 4, 2014 by Jingthing

[japsportscarmad]

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I am not even going to reply to you again.

Glad to hear it!

BTW, I was not the one to throw the dirt about fisting. You did. I asked for verification because I smelled a rat. You come up with a Neo-Nazi hate group forum website. Readers can judge.

Changed my mind on not replying you asked for the link to be published not me you should trust other people to know better than you, as I didn't publish it as I knew it might cause offence.

Maybe you have smelt a rat in the drains you habbitate?

Troll off you little man and leave me alone just chill bro :-)

[Jingthing]

I really have nothing further to say on the matter of the dirt thrown on the gay British tourist by a poster here and his failure to verify it.

[japsportscarmad]

I really have nothing further to say on the matter of the dirt thrown on the gay British tourist by a poster here and his failure to verify it.

It was not dirt I Did verify the link, He was a sex tourist not some guy having a beach holiday.

Troll off

[Jingthing]

Back to the topic, I hope that potential future gay tourists to Morocco do learn about this arrest so they can weigh in that information when deciding whether to visit Morocco or not. Once I even researched the possibility of retirement in Morocco but my research didn't make it sound promising. I was looking into the visa thing, not the gay thing. Gay tourists do visit a lot of countries where gay civil rights is not recognized or even where there is active oppression ... heck, we LIVE in a lot of those countries as well. It can be a grey area kind of thing about deciding to travel to such places. Being informed about the actual laws and current information/news about whether or how those laws are actually applied is something gay travelers would be wise to consider. If gay world travelers avoided every country where homosexuality is criminalized, some would feel that would be too limiting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/12/11/a-map-of-the-countries-where-homosexuality-is-criminalized/

Edited November 4, 2014 by Jingthing

[japsportscarmad]

Back to the topic, I hope that potential future gay tourists to Morocco do learn about this arrest so they can weigh in that information when deciding whether to visit Morocco or not. Once I even researched the possibility of retirement in Morocco but my research didn't make it sound promising. I was looking into the visa thing, not the gay thing. Gay tourists do visit a lot of countries where gay civil rights is not recognized or even where there is active oppression ... heck, we LIVE in a lot of those countries as well. It can be a grey area kind of thing about deciding to travel to such places. Being informed about the actual laws and current information/news about whether or how those laws are actually applied is something gay travelers would be wise to consider. If gay world travelers avoided every country where homosexuality is criminalized, some would feel that would be too limiting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/12/11/a-map-of-the-countries-where-homosexuality-is-criminalized/

Ok m8 you make a good point actually, but we must be able to agree on:

People have the right to be gay or whatever they like to be.

Holidays where gays have no rights and it's technically therefore risky going, if someone does go really we should help them but it was their risk so the have to take some of the responsibility.

People also have the right to oppose gay friendly laws.

Is that fair?

[Jingthing]

Pretty much, dear.

[japsportscarmad]

Pretty much, dear.

That's good I'm bored with bickering let's try to be nice to,each other and try to see each other's point?