NIDA proposes six reform measures to NCPO

[Lite Beer]

NIDA proposes six reform measures to NCPO
By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Oct 11 -- The National Institute of Development Administration (NIDA) has proposed six reform measures for human resource development to the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) which seized administrative power in Thailand on May 22.

NIDA professors said during a press conference on Friday that the six measures need to be urgently considered by the NCPO as they could help the poor and reduce social disparity in Thailand.

The NCPO is embarking on massive national reform, designed towards ridding poverty, corruption and other malpractices prevailing in the country, which NIDA said in its proposal that “nothing has changed in the Thai society for more than five decades, and the. law isn’t law.”

The six proposals include decentralization of power so rural organisations could make a decision with government agencies; mapping out policies and plans which could distribute state resources to rural areas and prepare communication; and social and policy areas for middle-income earners living in cities and villages so that they could share information with each other.

Other proposals are lowering influence of businessmen and increasing the role of community representatives; reforming tax system in which the rich would have to pay higher taxes and such taxes on inheritance and land must be collected; and increasing directing communication channels from communities to the central government.

NIDA proposes that solving social disparity in the long-term must be done through boosting production and competition; developing human capability and technology; and building innovative products which could compete overseas.

Most importantly, the government must urgently end corruption in the country because it is the root cause of social disparity and social injustice. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2014-10-11

[seajae]

corruption is the biggest stumbling block in Thailand because it has become entrenched in every level of govt and in society. Virtually nothing is immune to corruption, everyone wants something for nothing and are not happy unless they get. If corruption could be fazed out the country would improve immensely but I doubt those that are receiving the larger amounts will want it stopped so we will see it remain, no one wants to lose their nest eggs, too much face is involved.

[tbthailand]

The attack on corruption is great for the anti-democrats and it the basis of their power-grab justification. No doubt corruption is a problem and a critical problem for Thailand. And it is a bit laughable that these various groups want to 'end' corruption. That's not a feasible goal - look around the world. It would be a feasible goal to make society more transparent and just so that corruption can be found out when it does occur. It never ends and the process of looking for it and prosecuting it - regardless who the person is - never stops.

That said : what was it with this line!!

Most importantly, the government must urgently end corruption in the country because it is the root cause of social disparity and social injustice.

Maybe they are going to far with the 'NCPO' / 'PDRC' party line here? The root cause of social disparity and social injustices are the richest families in the country who cling to a centuries-old societal structure and refuse to come the 20th much less 21st century. Let's say these families are not the cause, but the source. It is always possible to point to lack of a uniform and availability of healthcare across the country, Same for schools and universities. Infrastructure spending and environmental protection is dismal. And let's not talk about how courts treat and process the poor in this country. Ouch.

I am certain many posters could find other important points as well, but honestly, these people are out to lunch.

OK, one extremely telling truth in the article above...

“nothing has changed in the Thai society for more than five decades, and the. law isn’t law.”

The last half comes back to the above comment - if you are rich, in the military, police or courts, the law isn't the law. As for nothing changing ins 50 years, why is that exactly? 50 years ago, '65 - military playing in politics with the support of the uber-rich. Today, 2015 will find the military playing in politics with the support of the uber-rich.

The 'source' of social disparity and social injustice is not corruption, but it is true that the 'source' is very corrupt.

[scorecard]

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The attack on corruption is great for the anti-democrats and it the basis of their power-grab justification. No doubt corruption is a problem and a critical problem for Thailand. And it is a bit laughable that these various groups want to 'end' corruption. That's not a feasible goal - look around the world. It would be a feasible goal to make society more transparent and just so that corruption can be found out when it does occur. It never ends and the process of looking for it and prosecuting it - regardless who the person is - never stops.

That said : what was it with this line!!

Most importantly, the government must urgently end corruption in the country because it is the root cause of social disparity and social injustice.

Maybe they are going to far with the 'NCPO' / 'PDRC' party line here? The root cause of social disparity and social injustices are the richest families in the country who cling to a centuries-old societal structure and refuse to come the 20th much less 21st century. Let's say these families are not the cause, but the source. It is always possible to point to lack of a uniform and availability of healthcare across the country, Same for schools and universities. Infrastructure spending and environmental protection is dismal. And let's not talk about how courts treat and process the poor in this country. Ouch.

I am certain many posters could find other important points as well, but honestly, these people are out to lunch.

OK, one extremely telling truth in the article above...

“nothing has changed in the Thai society for more than five decades, and the. law isn’t law.”

The last half comes back to the above comment - if you are rich, in the military, police or courts, the law isn't the law. As for nothing changing ins 50 years, why is that exactly? 50 years ago, '65 - military playing in politics with the support of the uber-rich. Today, 2015 will find the military playing in politics with the support of the uber-rich.

The 'source' of social disparity and social injustice is not corruption, but it is true that the 'source' is very corrupt.

Disagree, corruption and the factors / items which align to it are clearly a major cause of disparity and lack of justice. Example: right now 'justice' can be bought, and there's no denying that's a fact. Two key words in that sentence: 'corruption' and 'justice'.

[tbthailand]

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The attack on corruption is great for the anti-democrats and it the basis of their power-grab justification. No doubt corruption is a problem and a critical problem for Thailand. And it is a bit laughable that these various groups want to 'end' corruption. That's not a feasible goal - look around the world. It would be a feasible goal to make society more transparent and just so that corruption can be found out when it does occur. It never ends and the process of looking for it and prosecuting it - regardless who the person is - never stops.

That said : what was it with this line!!

Most importantly, the government must urgently end corruption in the country because it is the root cause of social disparity and social injustice.

Maybe they are going to far with the 'NCPO' / 'PDRC' party line here? The root cause of social disparity and social injustices are the richest families in the country who cling to a centuries-old societal structure and refuse to come the 20th much less 21st century. Let's say these families are not the cause, but the source. It is always possible to point to lack of a uniform and availability of healthcare across the country, Same for schools and universities. Infrastructure spending and environmental protection is dismal. And let's not talk about how courts treat and process the poor in this country. Ouch.

I am certain many posters could find other important points as well, but honestly, these people are out to lunch.

OK, one extremely telling truth in the article above...

“nothing has changed in the Thai society for more than five decades, and the. law isn’t law.”

The last half comes back to the above comment - if you are rich, in the military, police or courts, the law isn't the law. As for nothing changing ins 50 years, why is that exactly? 50 years ago, '65 - military playing in politics with the support of the uber-rich. Today, 2015 will find the military playing in politics with the support of the uber-rich.

The 'source' of social disparity and social injustice is not corruption, but it is true that the 'source' is very corrupt.

Disagree, corruption and the factors / items which align to it are clearly a major cause of disparity and lack of justice. Example: right now 'justice' can be bought, and there's no denying that's a fact. Two key words in that sentence: 'corruption' and 'justice'.

You are correct, there is no doubt that justice can be bought. So can faster service at the hospital, etc, And I began by stating that it's a big problem.

No argument there.

For me, the difference is that I view it as a symptom of, not the cause of - or as I refer to it, 'source' of the social disparity and injustice.

As for proposals which can reduce poverty and injustice, there are well known tools for that which have already been field-tested for over a hundred years around the world. These folks just need to look around and implement a few of the better ideas.

[lildragon]

One reform should be complete open books and transparency on several high ranking officials within politics, the military and the police. tbhthailand summed it up pretty well in his post.

Thaksin is gone yet the rampant corruption still remains. It is ingrained in the culture, previous coups before and after Thaksin didn't stop it and by the looks of things this is another one to keep the status quo.

[fobuff]

"National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) which seized administrative power in Thailand" cute cute it was a military coup with martial imposed and now we have a great leader governed under a military junta...

[Arkady]

Attempting to do anything about corruption starts with the police. No point in having more laws to deal with it when the people who are supposed to enforce them are sniggering all the way to the bank.

[Acharn]

Attempting to do anything about corruption starts with the police. No point in having more laws to deal with it when the people who are supposed to enforce them are sniggering all the way to the bank.

There is more than one place to start. I would think the courts are a better place, because it hardly matters if the police arrest a perpetrator if the judge lets him off because they went to school together.

The main fault I find with this proposal is the lack of concreteness. It is not helpful to say we need to end corruption. What proposals do you have that will lead to the end of corruption? It is not helpful to say we must make elections fair and honest. What proposals do you have that will lead to elections being fair and honest. I'm glad to see that they mentioned "reforming" the tax system, but exactly what "reforms" do they think will lead to more equality and fairness? This proposal seems to be no more clear than the PDRC calls for "reform" that basically seemed, in the end, to mean ending democracy.

[timewilltell]

Attempting to do anything about corruption starts with the police. No point in having more laws to deal with it when the people who are supposed to enforce them are sniggering all the way to the bank.

There is more than one place to start. I would think the courts are a better place, because it hardly matters if the police arrest a perpetrator if the judge lets him off because they went to school together.

The main fault I find with this proposal is the lack of concreteness. It is not helpful to say we need to end corruption. What proposals do you have that will lead to the end of corruption? It is not helpful to say we must make elections fair and honest. What proposals do you have that will lead to elections being fair and honest. I'm glad to see that they mentioned "reforming" the tax system, but exactly what "reforms" do they think will lead to more equality and fairness? This proposal seems to be no more clear than the PDRC calls for "reform" that basically seemed, in the end, to mean ending democracy.

I agree there is more than one place to start. The most immediate way is to enforce the laws that already exist especially with regard to tax. The entire legal code needs to be rewritten - if you read it, it is clear that is is very basic and full of holes. If the judges had any acumen many of these holes could be rectified by them but unfortunately the judges do not posses the same mentality of Justice and fairness that is found most often in the western courts.

The court procedures need to be rewritten. They are arcane and unjust and it really would not take much effort to streamline the whole system. It is too long, too biased and too stupid. Thirdly introduce the principle of discovery and the principle of precedence to govern judges. This would give more certainty to the law, many cases would be avoided simply because if established case law making it plain that a case was unwinnable. It would also stop diverse judgements on cases with essentially the same facts.

The next immediate thing would be to pass a simple no tolerance law tackling corruption with rewards for people exposing it together with guidelines for sentencing. No more inactive posts nonsense nor convicts passing their sentence in hospital just because they are parents of ministers.

Lastly set up an asset scrutiny team to investigate anyone with size able assets that do not match the income level of their job to expose tax cheats and the corrupt.

Those simple things would change Thailand immeasurably for the better.

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