DavoTheGun Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 10 Bart + about 30 Cents US so why are you even talking about it ! you pay 50-60 Bart for a Can of Beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 It's not about the money, it's about the principle. If you can't understand that, move on please. 10 Bart + about 30 Cents US so why are you even talking about it ! you pay 50-60 Bart for a Can of Beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldface Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 It's not about the money, it's about the principle. principle over 5 baht? Indignation might be best kept tucked away for 5 baht- people have been beaten and shot for 5 baht here no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Seems to be a standard 30 baht now for the songteaw from the bus station to Beach Road.That's a special service.Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Seems to be a standard 30 baht now for the songteaw from the bus station to Beach Road. Yes, my Mate Wally who recently visited Pattaya was charged Bt 30 for that ride. He says it had been Bt 20 as long as he remembers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Seems to be a standard 30 baht now for the songteaw from the bus station to Beach Road. That's a special service. Agreed. How does that distance, say the Bus Station to 'Central Shopping Centre' compare to Jontiem into Patts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Seems to be a standard 30 baht now for the songteaw from the bus station to Beach Road. That's a special service. Agreed.How does that distance, say the Bus Station to 'Central Shopping Centre' compare to Jontiem into Patts? Posting error. Edited October 23, 2014 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) What part of it's not about the money don't you understand? If you don't live on principles then so be it, move on please. Personally I don't appreciate being taken, no matter how small. And yes I chose to walk away. The original post only asked if the fares had gone up, nothing more. It's not about the money, it's about the principle. principle over 5 baht? Indignation might be best kept tucked away for 5 baht- people have been beaten and shot for 5 baht here no doubt. Edited October 23, 2014 by Roger Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Its the Thai recession busting policy. When times are bad , double the prices 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavoTheGun Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 So what is the Principle, Money no doubt! Cheap Charlie !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbirds20 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Being treated like baggage makes the ride only worth 10 baht. Have you ever gotte on the baht bus at South Pattaya and Second Road to come back to Jomtien? They don't leave until 15 people are on board! .... even if some are fat Russians, that like to slouch and sit sideways!! God help anyone that wants a baht bus from South Soi 15 to Theppraya! There is never any room unlsee you can springboard on to the roof as it goes by! Don't ride a baht bus alone late at night either. Two years ago, I got taken down by the go kart track, dumped off in the middle of nowhere and was robbed at gunpoint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamboy Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The principle is important. I thought it was scandalous a couple of years ago when they charged falang 10 baht and Thais 5 baht. Therefore I paid at that time B15 for me and my Thai wife. I'm quite happy to now pay B20 for the same ride. That's not being a cheap charlie. If the price goes up to B15 then fair enough but it must be for everyone not just farangs. What I hate is dual pricing e.g. Pattaya Tower. I do not want Thais charged excessively in my country so, quid pro quo, likewise for me in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The fare is 10 baht. That is my mantra until it is not. Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The OFFICIAL RATES which have not changed are 10 baht for all rides and 20 baht for EXCEPTIONALLY long rides. Where did you take this information from ? On the only official document I saw, several years ago already, there was not a "unique price" for bahtbus, but several ones depending of the ride and - at this time - in a range from 8 to 13 baht (? I think). For some reason (ease with tourists?) bahtbus inside Pattaya use this 10 baht / 20 baht price system. Rather than augmenting (for an uneasy price such as 12 or 13 baht) they prefer reduce the distance. Years ago from Jomtien for 10 baht you could go up to North Road, then up to Central Rd, Central Beach Festival,... Now many bahtbus consider that Royal Garden is the limit for 10 baht. I find that rather logical considering inflation and oil price. Now if you have any official document, I am interested to hear about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 As he was pulling away I took a photo of the baht bus with the license number. That's when it got a little weird, he stopped the truck got out and started screaming the rates have changed. Why would he be upset to have me photograph his truck if he'd done nothing wrong? You have his number: report him. It doesnt make a scrap of difference whether he took you for 1Baht or 1Billion Baht. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Not that again about the old signs. Answered before many times. It was never followed by anyone. A total farce. Like the baht bus stops but even more ridiculous. Next ... Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited October 23, 2014 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 If they start charging 15 Baht for a ride I tell you I am out of here... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 If they start charging 15 Baht for a ride I tell you I am out of here...I'll take that as a joke!Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccraw Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Jomtien to Pattaya Klang---10 baht-- any further --20.to 30. Been that for years. Back from Pattaya Klang waiting area sardine ride to Jomtien 10 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Si Thea01 Posted October 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Yeah, I thought it was strange to be charged 15 baht per person, it was just two of us so I gave my gf (I always let her pay since she's Thai) another 20 baht and waved him off. As he was pulling away I took a photo of the baht bus with the license number. That's when it got a little weird, he stopped the truck got out and started screaming the rates have changed. Why would he be upset to have me photograph his truck if he'd done nothing wrong? I wave him off again and kept on walking. After witnessing first hand the dog pack mentality of Thai's when it comes to fighting I know better than to stand up for what I feel/think is right, not worth it. I feel lucky not to have any confrontations period, just walk away smiling. No, the rates have not gone up. Drivers tend to play more games as high season approaches. I must say though if you get a driver like that, if you don't pay what he demands you do risk being violently assaulted. As someone who rides all the time I can tell real changes from incidental bad apple drivers. Occasional incidents do not represent actual "official" changes. The OFFICIAL RATES which have not changed are 10 baht for all rides and 20 baht for EXCEPTIONALLY long rides. The latter has never been defined, so it's possible some drivers will demand 20 from further out Jomtien to Central but that is rare. IF you pass PATTAYA KLANG, it is more common for there to be a demand of 20, and in my opinion if you go as far as Big C you should just pay 20 without being asked. Really Pattaya Klang is the semi-official marking line ... it does become a greyer area after that. Some drivers in past especially during high season have kicked off all passengers at South Pattaya Road or made a big announcement there, that to go further will be 20 baht. These are bad apples. I suggest just getting off if meeting these bozos. 15 is a creative twist. If it starts to happen that a MAJORITY of drivers starts demanding 15 from Jomtien to Central, then I will conclude they had a "meeting" and that might be something real. Not even close to that yet! Incidental reports mean almost nothing. Cheers and safe riding! So Roger Lee you risked confrontation for 10 baht. Hasn't anyone warned you about taking photos. What were you trying to prove by doing so? What's wrong with you people, 10 baht extra is bugger all and even if you paid 15 baht each, it is a fairly inexpensive trip. The higher amount equates to 50 cents in my country's currency (Australia) whilst 10 baht equates to about 33.3 cents. Are you so poor that this amount is going to break you? Instead of whinging about ten baht why didn't you just say no, alight and walk to where you were going or get another bus. But then maybe you would have more complaints to air here. To get off, walk or take another bus would save a lot of the BS that you are going on about over a miniscule amount. Just think how hard it is for the average Thai to feed himself, his family, own a home if he is lucky and all for a miserable amount of between 5,000 and 10,000 a month in wages. Never hear them complain, they always smile and seem to get by. Why is it only the Farangs on TVF who complain about being ripped of or paying too much. Must be sad to be poor. Tell me, what do you mean by wave him off. Some people might think this gesture is rude and seeing that you always get you Thai girlfriend to pay can I assume you do not speak Thai. Why not get her to query the charge rather then you trying to be the macho farang. It might have saved you a lot of drama. or were you hoping by having your girlfriend pay that you will get Thai rates. Very rarely happens I can assure you. I am married to a Thai and have never expected to receive privileges for this. However, I can speak Thai and look after myself, have a Thai License and treat others with respect and courtesy that everyone should be afforded. Through this I have found, on many occasions, that I have been charged the Thai rate, even when alone but on occasions when they wanted to charge me the Farang price I tell them politely that I am not prepared to pay that rate and walk away. Sometimes they relent other times they don't but I have never sought a confrontation and at least I know I will not place myself in a position where my safety is jeopardised for 10 baht. Edited October 23, 2014 by Si Thea01 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldface Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 What part of it's not about the money don't you understand? If you don't live on principles then so be it, move on please. Personally I don't appreciate being taken, no matter how small. And yes I chose to walk away. The original post only asked if the fares had gone up, nothing more. It's not about the money, it's about the principle. principle over 5 baht? Indignation might be best kept tucked away for 5 baht- people have been beaten and shot for 5 baht here no doubt. Well I do, but for 5 baht I would let it slide. Not worth getting a bat to the head for 5 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 If they start charging 15 Baht for a ride I tell you I am out of here... I'd pay twice that without complaint, as long as it's posted and the charges are consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Jomtien to Pattaya Klang---10 baht-- any further --20.to 30. Been that for years. Back from Pattaya Klang waiting area sardine ride to Jomtien 10 baht. Yes but 20 max.Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 No, the rates have not gone up. Drivers tend to play more games as high season approaches. I must say though if you get a driver like that, if you don't pay what he demands you do risk being violently assaulted. As someone who rides all the time I can tell real changes from incidental bad apple drivers. Occasional incidents do not represent actual "official" changes. The OFFICIAL RATES which have not changed are 10 baht for all rides and 20 baht for EXCEPTIONALLY long rides. The latter has never been defined, so it's possible some drivers will demand 20 from further out Jomtien to Central but that is rare. IF you pass PATTAYA KLANG, it is more common for there to be a demand of 20, and in my opinion if you go as far as Big C you should just pay 20 without being asked. Really Pattaya Klang is the semi-official marking line ... it does become a greyer area after that. Some drivers in past especially during high season have kicked off all passengers at South Pattaya Road or made a big announcement there, that to go further will be 20 baht. These are bad apples. I suggest just getting off if meeting these bozos. 15 is a creative twist. If it starts to happen that a MAJORITY of drivers starts demanding 15 from Jomtien to Central, then I will conclude they had a "meeting" and that might be something real. Not even close to that yet! Incidental reports mean almost nothing. Cheers and safe riding! You're right I also would walk from Jomtien to Pattaya, rather than pay 15 Baht. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 One time is fun. Sent from my Lenovo S820_ROW using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denby45 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 15/32.5 = $0.4615 Distance approx 8-10k Enough said Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiBob Posted October 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2014 why are all you Cheap Charlies Carrying on about a few Baht, get a life it should be 30 Baht from Jomtien to Pattaya in my opinion !! How Much would you pay at home for Taxi ? People just want to pay the correct fare without any ambiguity. Can't really mention an air conditioned, door to door taxi and an asphyxiating, crowded, open air baht bus in the same breath. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 if you don't pay what he demands you do risk being violently assaulted. Got to love the baht bus drivers...paragons of Thai society... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrilled Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Songthews are so cheap.They have been so low for so long.With the price of gasoline I'm surprised that they aren't charging 50 baht. I believe if I was A Songthew driver I would charge farangs more simply for the reason most of them have more money than The average thai and can afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Songthews are so cheap.They have been so low for so long.With the price of gasoline I'm surprised that they aren't charging 50 baht. I believe if I was A Songthew driver I would charge farangs more simply for the reason most of them have more money than The average thai and can afford it. Correct, when I arrived in Pattaya a Bahtbus on the second road/ beach road tour was 5 Baht. Gasoline was 9 Baht at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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