Initially visited Thailand for the wrong reasons but really fell for the place. Moved here recently and planning to stay. I've seen guys here married, apparently, happily to local women. Wondered what the general attitude among educated Thai people was towards foreign husbands. Really not interested in the bar girl scene. Would like to meet a woman with a career and a life not sure if that realistic. I'm 56 but in good shape. Retired a few years ago but own a company Hesitate to bring up wealth but it might be a factor. They tell me I am quite rich by European standards. Looking for practical rather than moral guidance. Only seen Thai Society from the outside and the underside. Don't speak much Thai but working on that.What are the odds? How and where would you meet real grown up educated Thai women? Anybody had experience?

Well you know where NOT to meet them obviously.

Integrating into society through work or life would open doors, but since you noted you can't speak Thai (won't learn) and it doesn't sound like you have work connections to Thailand.. you could end up meeting people who are looking to shack up w/ white people which is probably what you don't want. The truth is a lot of educated, English speaking, openminded, well traveled, self sufficient Thai people exist, but you won't find them by accident or online or what not. Going to classy places or events may set you on the right track.

Also - if you want to party, i know how to smash through money easily

Move in the right circles as you would in Europe.

You would not go down the docks or 'prostitute alley' to fine a good woman in Europe. The same applies here.

Away 100% from the likes of Pattaya and Phuket to get a good woman.

Where to find? That is not an easy one to answer. Up North (not Issan) I found good women. Teachers, generally educated people who wanted a good man. One whose family are well to do Chulankorn University lecturers found me.

I found some dating sites can be good once you are discerning and know how to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Move in the right circles as you would in Europe.

You would not go down the docks or 'prostitute alley' to fine a good woman in Europe. The same applies here.

Away 100% from the likes of Pattaya and Phuket to get a good woman.

Where to find? That is not an easy one to answer. Up North (not Issan) I found good women. Teachers, generally educated people who wanted a good man. One whose family are well to do Chulankorn University lecturers found me.

I found some dating sites can be good once you are discerning and know how to sort the wheat from the chaff.

I work in an office with 4 Thai women. You must have a degree and own car to work for our company. All 4 speak English and do not attend the bar scene. 3 of them are single and 1 (maybe 2) would date a westerner without prejudice - I'm sure they will be very happy to read your 100% sweeping generalisation.

There are tons of well-educated women who are interested in dating a foreigner. I am not sure about your age group but when i look at the number of friends of my wife (all doctors in their late 20's and early 30's) who are interested than there should also be some left around the age 50.

The only problem is that you won't meet these girls. They are often too shy to speak English, cannot speak English at all, or never go out to places where they meet new people. It is also logical, because if they did speak English freely and did go out, they wouldn't be single anymore (simplified statement).

So what you need to do:
1. learn how to speak Thai

2. look for them at non-traditional places (forget bars, discos, restaurants, karaoke places, dancing clubs, but go for hospitals, small businesses, eateries around big companies where they go out for lunch, fitness clubs, etc).

3. initiate contact. As said before, if they would initiate contact they would not be single anymore, so you need to do it

ONLY well educated women marry foreigners....

Well you know where NOT to meet them obviously.

Integrating into society through work or life would open doors, but since you noted you can't speak Thai (won't learn) and it doesn't sound like you have work connections to Thailand.. you could end up meeting people who are looking to shack up w/ white people which is probably what you don't want. The truth is a lot of educated, English speaking, openminded, well traveled, self sufficient Thai people exist, but you won't find them by accident or online or what not. Going to classy places or events may set you on the right track.

^^^ the events ideas above is not that stupid, if your based in Bangkok.

The <<insert country here>> Chamber of Commerce in Thailand

Most of these have plenty ongoing and regular events, they've go there more than fair share of kind of Thais you are looking for.

You have come to the right place, ALL members here are married to well educated , good family girls half their age.

Suggest you join a Rotary Club and visit other Rotary clubs. There are plenty of well educated, mostly wealthy, good looking, Thai Women looking for husbands. Thai women generally will not marry a Thai man if they have been divorced or cast off as a Mia Noi.

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I found some dating sites can be good once you are discerning and know how to sort the wheat from the chaff.

I agree with this suggestion.

Join a (few) Thai dating site(s), and take your time.

Look for university educated professionals; many of them are looking for men like you.

I was also in my late 50s when I joined a few Thai dating sites and started looking.

Be discerning, as suggested above.

I am a retired professional with post-graduate qualifications, and do not speak Thai, but have spent time reading about Thai history, culture, etc., and have met numerous women who are still my friends.

Learning any new language at our age can be difficult, but at least make an effort, it is appreciated. Be willing to learn as much as you can.

"I've seen guys here married, apparently, happily to local women."

'Apparently' being the operative word here, to put in easier prospective to understand,

marrying a local lady, is like a crap shoot, sometime you roll 7 but most of the time

you roll snake eyes...

I'm looking for a hiso sugar-mummy also, so let me know if you find any

"I've seen guys here married, apparently, happily to local women."

'Apparently' being the operative word here, to put in easier prospective to understand,

marrying a local lady, is like a crap shoot, sometime you roll 7 but most of the time

you roll snake eyes...

Probabilities are not your strongest point I guess.

Rolling snake eyes: 1 in 36 chance

Rolling 7: 6 in 36 chance

Educated women can be amongst the biggest and most clever scammers. I have oft posted here about my ex-wife, who for the purpose of this post I will name 'Ami'. She was from a poorish family but went to university were she wanted to compete with new new rich friends. She got a degree in Civil Engineering. She could speak passable English and then went on to learn Thai and French. We got married. Lived in the UK for a few years before coming back to Thailand. That's when she scammed me. Lied and cheated her way through what remained of our relationship. Got an MBA to further her career but ended up in a minor public government post. Went to the UK spreading lies about me to all and sundry. Stole money from the bank account. Ami completely broke the agreement we had made about money and then lied when we tried to find the reason behind her behaviour. She was worse than any bar girl. Much worse. At least with a bar girl you know the deal. They work in an open way. She didn;t. She wanted her Honda Jazz (or whatever), her Louis Vuitton by the dozen and all the rest of the hi-so rubbish. She travelled Europe on my money and I nearly lost my house to her. I wouldn't necessarily trust an 'educated' girl any more than a bar girl. Indeed my friend married a bar girl and they are still a happy and honest couple 15 years later.

If you message me I know a few good Thai ladies who want a foreign husband. Some have good jobs, some have a University degree and some speak English very well. I have been here three years, my Thai wife is well educated, works for the government and we move in the right circles. My biggest concern would of course be are you as advertised. I know one thai lady who seems to be quite wealthy ( she wears different beautiful dresses every day) , she speaks English and she attends a Christian church each week. A lot of good ladies ask me to introduce them to good foreign men.

We live in a small city far away from the crazy foreign tourists. I love it here but Thailand is a hazardous country to live in. The Thai relatives are dropping like flies.

I am suprised nobody mentioned money, land and child grabbing Thai women. I suggest you read marriage and divorce to find out other side og the medal, hips of them crying loud after loosing their life savings.

I've thought about this for years, and it's a perplexing problem. Where can a "nice" farang meet a "nice" & educated Thai lady? Particularly a farang who doesn't work. There are not too many places where your life will intersect that of the woman of your dreams.

My suggestion, in general, is to not look for nice single ladies. Make friends & social contacts with Thai of all nature including guys & married couples. Sooner or later, these folks will come to realize you're a straight-up guy and they'll start thinking: Hey, you and (insert name) would be a great couple. And they can introduce you to their single friend. An introduction like that goes a long way. You can even let your Thai friends know you are hoping for an introduction, not to any particular lady but to anyone they know who would be a good match.

Myself, I got lucky. Met my future wife on a free pen pal site. It's called Pen Pal Party; not sure if it's still around. We corresponded for about 3 months, then started chatting (I was in the States). By the time I met her, we'd known each other for nearly a year. I stumbled into that, without real intention. We've been married now for 7 years. When I moved to Thailand, we attended a Christian church in BKK. There were many beautiful, single, educated women in the congregation. So if you exercise any particular faith, getting involved in the church, temple, etc. might be a good way to go. Don't expect quick results -- be patient, and cast a wide net in your social circles. I wouldn't worry too much about the language barrier; the women you are looking for already speaks good English (acceptable, anyway).

Good luck!

ONLY well educated women marry foreigners....

Where are you coming from?

I was on Thai Love Links (now Cupid Thai, I think) and met 6-8 professional Thai women.

I dated for about 6 months --- each woman aged 42 - 48. All professional. One owned a transportation company. One owned several dress stores. I finally found "The Love Of My Life".

My Thai wife is 47. I am 60, USA falang from Hawaii.

My Thai wife is an International Currency Trader. She is day-trader. Very smart. Very pretty.

On purpose, I only wanted to marry woman 40+. I did the "bar thing" and had enough. I wanted older, mature woman. She speaks "decent" English, and we are both learning. We've been together over 120 nights now -- and waiting on K1 Fiance' VISA.

My Suggestions:

- Go older. Easy to find professional women. I loved dating mature, professional women that owned their house or condo and had money.

- Date. If they offer to buy your dinner one night --- keep that woman on the short list.

- Network. There are thousands and thousands of women in their 40's.

- Thai women in their 40's believe they are "old" and will never marry. They believe no Thai man worthy of them.

I love and adore my Thai, 47 yr old, professional woman.

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I agree with most but from my experience its not true that you can't find certain educated etc desirable women by accident or won't meet them. So how do i meet them all the time? They are out and about on a regular basis just like anybody else so it's difficult not to meet them.

There are plenty of educated Thai women on dating sites looking for genuine relationships. In my dating days I've met university professors, lecturers and professional women who are comfortably well off. My wife has a master's degree.

Arrange to meet them for coffee in the daytime, treat them like the ladies they are and you should meet someone who you want to spend your time with. Be discerning and do not fall 'in love' straight away. Wait and see. The same advice applies to just about anywhere in the world.

Thai women of all social strata and education would rather marry a foreigner than drink canal water...

Educated women can be amongst the biggest and most clever scammers. I have oft posted here about my ex-wife, who for the purpose of this post I will name 'Ami'. She was from a poorish family but went to university were she wanted to compete with new new rich friends. She got a degree in Civil Engineering. She could speak passable English and then went on to learn Thai and French. We got married. Lived in the UK for a few years before coming back to Thailand. That's when she scammed me. Lied and cheated her way through what remained of our relationship. Got an MBA to further her career but ended up in a minor public government post. Went to the UK spreading lies about me to all and sundry. Stole money from the bank account. Ami completely broke the agreement we had made about money and then lied when we tried to find the reason behind her behaviour. She was worse than any bar girl. Much worse. At least with a bar girl you know the deal. They work in an open way. She didn;t. She wanted her Honda Jazz (or whatever), her Louis Vuitton by the dozen and all the rest of the hi-so rubbish. She travelled Europe on my money and I nearly lost my house to her. I wouldn't necessarily trust an 'educated' girl any more than a bar girl. Indeed my friend married a bar girl and they are still a happy and honest couple 15 years later.

I have found with any woman , you must set boundaries. What is yours and what is mine. I was married to a good woman but like many men I was too generous and she took that for granted. I helped in her getting a doctorate eventually, When we married she had a High school education. I had two children with her and we lived a well travelled and happy life together but eventually she grew tired of our relationship and put me down the rungs on our relationship. I believe I rated below her cat. Clerks in dress stores knew her by her first name and she had a wardrobe large enough for 3 or 4 women. She drank 1 to 2 litres of wine every day. She is a good woman with a great job but she stopped listening to my sound advice and after 42 years i left.

Moral of the story. Set limits and be sure your lady listens and actively participates in common goals. Do not given an open cheque book to a woman without controls that you regularly check up on. The earlier in a relationship that you do this the easier it will be. My present Thai partner has no access to my money but I am still generous.

Suggest you join a Rotary Club and visit other Rotary clubs. There are plenty of well educated, mostly wealthy, good looking, Thai Women looking for husbands. Thai women generally will not marry a Thai man if they have been divorced or cast off as a Mia Noi.

Yes, a very good idea. I have been an international Rotarian for many years. All Rotary chapters meet weekly and openly invite the public to attend. Find your nearest Rotary chapter online--local influential government and business people are members; they make quite good contacts--and ask to attend their next meeting.

ONLY well educated women marry foreigners....

Many at the university of the streets . . .

You have come to the right place, ALL members here are married to well educated , good family girls half their age.

Well, mine used to be half my age; somehow she she's older than that now.

There are many well educated english speaking Thai Ladies. I have been married to one for 7 years here in Chiang Mai. I have a small circle of international friends equally happily married to delightful educated Thai Ladies.

How to meet them. They work in charities. They are members of groups like Rotary Club. They work in Banks, as receptionists in good hotels. They are in IT sweatshops and design offices. You meet them through networking with one good educated married Thai Lady who will jump at the opportunity to introduce and play cupid. Be patient and don't fall head over heels for the first one. Within 12 months you will have met someone you respect and trust. Good luck.

Why not be altruistic and find a good poor Thai lady and help her and her family,