Pattaya Floating Market owner reports damaging Facebook posts to Police

PATTAYA: -- On Thursday, the owner of the Pattaya Floating Market reported a number of damaging posts on Facebook in Chinese Language, relating to the Market and how it now does not allow Chinese Tourists inside, which is completely untrue.

Khun Manat reported the problem to Police Colonel Chonapat at Banglamung Police Station and showed him the posts which were in Chinese Language and then translated into Thai by a member of his staff.

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Hate the place, went with my wife looking to buy some fresh produce, she was allowed in for free but they wanted 80 baht from me. We walked away and they lost business but always another fool following who will pay someone for the right to spend money in thier market. Saw a lot of tourists just turning and walking away after all it is just another market with exactly the same wares.

What are the BIB going to do, send a crack squad to China to hunt these people down who complained of the scam and blatant rip off of tourists? The Junta has no control over the world and thier thoughts and opinions.

They were not happy customers lift your game maybe Thais need to understand social media can ruin you if you run a business no good complaining that wont bring the chinese back

Thais just dont seem to understand that if people take the trouble to criticise their product online it's probably not some huge international plot to defame them, but simply because the product really is crap.

Thais just dont seem to understand that if people take the trouble to criticise their product online it's probably not some huge international plot to defame them, but simply because the product really is crap.

Nor the freedom to speak openly (and maybe negatively) of one's experiences on social media.

Even the Chinese seem to have grasped this one.

Jeez, i cannot believe some people think this is actually a market - it's a tourist attraction, and it is priced in the same principle as any other tourist attraction !!!

Thais just dont seem to understand that if people take the trouble to criticise their product online it's probably not some huge international plot to defame them, but simply because the product really is crap.

the sad thing is they don't realise their complaining customers are actually doing them a favor. hiring a marketing firm to survey and provide honest opinion costs an arm and a leg. if they stopped trying to hide behind the defamation card and actually did something about the complaints they'd have a much stronger business in the long run. instead, well TiT lol

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Jeez, i cannot believe some people think this is actually a market - it's a tourist attraction, and it is priced in the same principle as any other tourist attraction !!!

Agreed, it's c**p

Absolutely right.

It has not much to do with coming to Thailand and go seeing places and learning about Thailand.

Take a closer look at the buildings is like looking at a cheap old western movie set up.

I am sure +90% of the customers are tour groups like Chinese/Russians that are not used to travel so they send them out there like pigs going to the slaughter house.

Okay many of us living here have also been out looking only to be seen running screaming away.

10 wild horses could not drag me in there again, no way amigo.

DAD dad !..........Bobbys picking on me.

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Jeez, i cannot believe some people think this is actually a market - it's a tourist attraction, and it is priced in the same principle as any other tourist attraction !!!

Agreed, it's c**p

Absolutely right.

It has not much to do with coming to Thailand and go seeing places and learning about Thailand.

Take a closer look at the buildings is like looking at a cheap old western movie set up.

I am sure +90% of the customers are tour groups like Chinese/Russians that are not used to travel so they send them out there like pigs going to the slaughter house.

Okay many of us living here have also been out looking only to be seen running screaming away.

10 wild horses could not drag me in there again, no way amigo.

Well according to the TV adverts it will make us 'understand Thai culture'..... or so the commentary says as we see a pot-bellied westerner standing around with no shirt on.

Seriously, the first time I went, soon after it opened, I thought it was okay....since then it got more commercialised and a discriminatory entrance fee was introduced. I now wish it would cease to float.

This story is a perfect example of why Thailand will never change for the better

Freedom of expression does not only apply to politics but to business as well. Traditional media outlets in Thailand are too afraid to say anything negative about any aspect of Thai life because of these draconian "defamation" laws, where even the truth is no defense

If Thai businesses think that going to the police to file a complaint is going to shut people up, or that the police can do anything about social media, then the police need to have them piss in a cup when they come in to make a complaint

been there twice - bored both times and now they want me to pay lol

If tour operators (who are likely being paid) want to ferry bus loads of Chinese to this place to have them aimlessly wonder around (which is near enough what they do everywhere) for a fee then up to them, but if the odd one is now catching on then up to them

Hate the place, went with my wife looking to buy some fresh produce, she was allowed in for free but they wanted 80 baht from me. We walked away and they lost business but always another fool following who will pay someone for the right to spend money in thier market. Saw a lot of tourists just turning and walking away after all it is just another market with exactly the same wares.

Last time i was there it was free but they made wear a sticker {falang complaining} i wore it on my forehead.

yeah, go cry baby

what about free for thai & farang pay pay pay

Thais just dont seem to understand that if people take the trouble to criticise their product online it's probably not some huge international plot to defame them, but simply because the product really is crap.

Yes it is potentially quite scary. It can also apply to services rendered.

I have had direct experience of this when I simply complained to an Australian company because their Thai agents were not making it easy for me to order and buy a particular product imported from Australia and which I wanted to buy on a regular and ongoing basis.

That email was passed back to the Thai agent and shortly after I received an email from their lawyer in Bangkok announcing they were going to sue me for defamation.

I soon learnt the realities of this ridiculous draconian law in that you can still be sued and you can still be guilty even if what you say is right! Totally bizarre.

How else can a customer voice their dissatisfaction?

Don't want to appear unsympathetic to your cause , but foreigners winging on about entrance fees to a tourist attraction which sees thousands of domestic tourists on a daily basis - sorry, but you are just not that important to them, if you were - it would be different for sure.

You/we are nothing but a sideline of little significance in the overall scheme of things, remember that, don't stress yourselves - the operators will not, thats for sure!

These fake floating markets are so tacky, not at all authentic, and IMO a waste of time.

One of the big problems here is the "name and shame" laws we have to deal with here. They are draconian. One reason we are very careful here with comments. Here's a blurb on this law:

Under Thai law the thruth in itself is no defence against libel. It is more a question of if someone loses "face" by another persons remarks. To be not libelous, a remark must not only be thruthfull, but also there must be a public interest in making the remarks, which outweights the interests of the person or business the remarks where made about.

So publicly complianing about lousy service or a cockroach in the bread might be libel if it is an isolated incident, but if it is something that happens more than once there might be a public interest that justify making it public.

Under libel laws not only the person making the remark can be held accountable, also the person further making it public, like a newspaper or a forum, can be held responsible.

So, just reply to those posts...you have staff to translate already. Cry baby.

One of the big problems here is the "name and shame" laws we have to deal with here. They are draconian. One reason we are very careful here with comments. Here's a blurb on this law:

Under Thai law the thruth in itself is no defence against libel. It is more a question of if someone loses "face" by another persons remarks. To be not libelous, a remark must not only be thruthfull, but also there must be a public interest in making the remarks, which outweights the interests of the person or business the remarks where made about.

So publicly complianing about lousy service or a cockroach in the bread might be libel if it is an isolated incident, but if it is something that happens more than once there might be a public interest that justify making it public.

Under libel laws not only the person making the remark can be held accountable, also the person further making it public, like a newspaper or a forum, can be held responsible.

" but if it is something that happens more than once "

I wonder how the courts in Thailand interpret thisif it hinges on being guilty or not guilty?

How many times in legal terms would more than once be? Twice, three times or a number much higher than this?

Don't want to appear unsympathetic to your cause , but foreigners winging on about entrance fees to a tourist attraction which sees thousands of domestic tourists on a daily basis - sorry, but you are just not that important to them, if you were - it would be different for sure.

You/we are nothing but a sideline of little significance in the overall scheme of things, remember that, don't stress yourselves - the operators will not, thats for sure!

If foreigners are so unimportant to them, why did they bother complaining to the police?

So now the BIB have taken tea money to go and tell off the chinese, please slap your peoples wrist and tell them to stop..////

TIT

UNBELIEVABLE!

Maybe they were refused entry due to some crapping next to the toilet and not inside of it like at the temples

Thais just dont seem to understand that if people take the trouble to criticise their product online it's probably not some huge international plot to defame them, but simply because the product really is crap.

Yes it is potentially quite scary. It can also apply to services rendered.

I have had direct experience of this when I simply complained to an Australian company because their Thai agents were not making it easy for me to order and buy a particular product imported from Australia and which I wanted to buy on a regular and ongoing basis.

That email was passed back to the Thai agent and shortly after I received an email from their lawyer in Bangkok announcing they were going to sue me for defamation.

I soon learnt the realities of this ridiculous draconian law in that you can still be sued and you can still be guilty even if what you say is right! Totally bizarre.

How else can a customer voice their dissatisfaction?

It appears that your complaint was to the manufacturer based on the performance (or lack off) of their distributor? This would surely make it an internal situation between manufacturer and distributor?

If this were not the case, then I would be looking at libel or defamation suites against me every other month.

Some defamatory posts have been removed. This forum rule is here for a purpose which should be clear from the topic so please take care what you post.

6) You will not post comments that could be reasonably construed as defamation or libel.

Defamation is the issuance of a statement about another person or business which causes that person to suffer harm. It does not have to be false to be defamatory. Libel is when the defamatory statement is published either in a drawing, painting, cinematography, film, picture or letters made visible by any means, or any other recording instruments, recording picture or letters, or by broadcasting or spreading picture, or by propagation by any other means. Defamation is both a civil and criminal charge in Thailand.

i though facebook was blocked in china?

anyway:

provide a good product/service and you'll get good reviews. of course there will be negative ones but thats called free speech.

BIB: now on your way sir... next.

It is not part of Thainess to scrutinize any criticism for substance but weird defamation laws fill the gap

I have been to the highly touted Pattaya Floating Market and found it to be nothing more than an outdoor mall with muddy waters, over priced goods and

difficult to get to. The Chinese are fortunate to be refused entry.

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Hate the place, went with my wife looking to buy some fresh produce, she was allowed in for free but they wanted 80 baht from me. We walked away and they lost business but always another fool following who will pay someone for the right to spend money in thier market. Saw a lot of tourists just turning and walking away after all it is just another market with exactly the same wares.

Good for you, we did the same thing. To many free markets to see. Good for the Chinese they finally did something right.