NeverSure Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) That being said, it could be a good idea to study the feasibility of giving ground control means to override certain things or even to take complete control of the aircraft if technology allows that. Great. Then we have just that many more combinations of people who can go postal. I'd suggest that if you want to be safe you fly the plane yourself, but then I don't trust you. Edited March 26, 2015 by NeverSure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Maybe in the future we can have remote controlled cockpit doors on commercial planes? If anything like this happens a radio signal from the ground can be sent to the plane and override the pilot decision and open the door. Or every pilot can be given a a unique code that will open the door from the outside, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaosai Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yes, there are certainly some open questions to be answered! I still hold that 600 hours is not enough to be left in charge of a passenger jet. Also this screwing down on pilot's pay and conditions is a bad move... How many hours is enough to be in charge of a passenger jet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdietz Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Lock info: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooloomooloo Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Alone at controls, co-pilot sought to 'destroy' the plane Interesting play on words and a lot of thought gone in to the diplomacy of this statement. Dead is still dead, unfortunately. Perfect catch-22 - of those you want to keep out of the cockpit and those you want controlling the flight with unmolested access to their station. There's a simple solution to hand. Let's see if the airlines work it out and take it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 until evidence is revealed, a play on words is all that can be put on stage... the only question I see begging is that of why only one person on deck? - unless the safety guard 2nd person (a steward) did the deed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingalfred Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The obsession with so called " security" after Sept 11 2001 has finally come back to haunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Isn't it strange that the co-pilot left no suicide message to be registered on the voice recorder? He must have been completely mentally deranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Me thinks there's still a bit more to come out of this tragdey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 The guy had an history of depression. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/germanwings-plane-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz-5406020 And they let him fly a passenger aircraft. Luckily his opportunity came over an isolated spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Isn't it strange that the co-pilot left no suicide message to be registered on the voice recorder? He must have been completely mentally deranged. He's bitter about something......payback time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aforek Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 The second black box ( Flight Data Recorder (FDR) ) was found today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Tuft Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 The second black box ( Flight Data Recorder (FDR) ) was found today Any link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOboe57 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 The second black box ( Flight Data Recorder (FDR) ) was found today Any link? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32159602 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aforek Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) more informations tomorrow, I think Edited April 2, 2015 by Aforek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aforek Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 The second black box ( Flight Data Recorder (FDR) ) was found today Any link? Here a link in English : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/germanwings-plane-crash/11512011/Germanwings-crash-Second-black-box-found-in-Alps.html the box was found buried 20 cm in the ground ( found by a female gendarme ) , in an already inspected place before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Well, Andreas Lubitz, this was an incredibly EVIL act. If you wanted to die in a plane, why didn't you just use a small plane on your day off? Why did 149 other people have to die? And why did the parents not tell anybody about her son's mental problems? I 'm atheist, but in this case I hope there's a hell. And a special hell for this guy Andreas Luebiz. With a lot of Mengeles to torture him. Why? Edited April 3, 2015 by lostinisaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Amazing that these CVR's and FDR's have not been updated to reflect huge improvements in computer and locator technologies over the last couple of decades. That such vital pieces of any accident investigation puzzle are located in such a fortuitous manner is really disgraceful. There is something seriously wrong within the ICAO organisation (a UN organisation) if they cannot ensure that, at the very least, both an improvement to the system of recovery of the recorders as well as an increase in the amount of data held by them, is implemented without delay No doubt all the ICAO delegates that attend the multiple meetings in various exotic locations are working very hard to justify their exorbitant salaries and expenses. Would it be too much to expect some progress on issues of importance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wprime Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Well, Andreas Lubitz, this was an incredibly EVIL act. If you wanted to die in a plane, why didn't you just use a small plane on your day off? Why did 149 other people have to die? And why did the parents not tell anybody about her son's mental problems? I 'm atheist, but in this case I hope there's a hell. And a special hell for this guy Andreas Luebiz. With a lot of Mengeles to torture him. Why? It's all well and good to place blame now, the girlfriend was aware he planned to do something terrible, the airline knew his mental state was impaired. I'm sure if any of them had any idea what he was going to do they would have stopped him well before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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